Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications
Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: No, I am not confising anything :-). All EU countries citzens can enter Poland using their EU ID. They cross the same gates on airports as people from Shengen zone. The only diffrence is that non-Shengen countries' members are subject to diffrent custom regulations and they can be examined by custom officers. It also apply to EEA countries ((Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway) and based on separate treaty also Switzerland. I think you are confusing things... I am a British citizen and I'm fairly sure I need a passport to enter a Schengen zone country. Once I'm in a Schengen zone country, I think I can travel to another one with other ID, but I need a passport for the first Schengen country. No, British citizens with an identity card can enter the EEA and Switzerland without a passport in the same way that I as a German citizen do not need a passport to enter the UK. The Schengen zone has absolutely nothing to do with customs, as far as I know. If you are travelling from an EU country to an EU country, there is basically not customs (you walk through the blue channel). That's basically correct with some exceptions (Heligoland, Ceuta/Melilla, the French départements d’outre-mer, etc.). Tim ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications
On 27 March 2010 19:14, Tim Landscheidt t...@tim-landscheidt.de wrote: No, British citizens with an identity card can enter the EEA and Switzerland without a passport in the same way that I as a German citizen do not need a passport to enter the UK. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Foreigntravel/BeforeYouTravel/DG_4016874 This official UK government page seems to disagree with you. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications
Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: No, British citizens with an identity card can enter the EEA and Switzerland without a passport in the same way that I as a German citizen do not need a passport to enter the UK. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Foreigntravel/BeforeYouTravel/DG_4016874 This official UK government page seems to disagree with you. This official UK government page seems to agree with me: | [...] | Entry requirements | Passport validity | You need a passport or a National Identity Card (see the | website of the Identity and Passports Service (IPS)) to en- | ter Poland. | [...] (from: URI:http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/europe/poland?ta=entryRequirementspg=4) Tim ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications
On 27 March 2010 20:38, Tim Landscheidt t...@tim-landscheidt.de wrote: Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: No, British citizens with an identity card can enter the EEA and Switzerland without a passport in the same way that I as a German citizen do not need a passport to enter the UK. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Foreigntravel/BeforeYouTravel/DG_4016874 This official UK government page seems to disagree with you. This official UK government page seems to agree with me: | [...] | Entry requirements | Passport validity | You need a passport or a National Identity Card (see the | website of the Identity and Passports Service (IPS)) to en- | ter Poland. | [...] (from: URI:http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/europe/poland?ta=entryRequirementspg=4) So it does... perhaps the page I found hasn't been be updated since identity cards were introduced in the UK (which was about 4 months ago, and only on a trial basis). ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications
2010/3/26 Svip svi...@gmail.com: On 25 March 2010 20:50, Isabell Long isabell...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 March 2010 19:48, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: I don't think there are any restrictions but then I am not overly familiar with EU law. I guess you will not be able to fly without a certified permission of your parents/guardians. The same applies to crossing the borders (I assume you do not need visa to visit Poland). If you're an EU citizen then you can travel freely between all countries of the EU, supposedly. And no, no flying without permission of course, but I wouldn't go on my own anyway. :) You are confusing the Schengen agreement with the trade regulations of the EU. People within the Schengen agreement are allowed to travel without showing passport within that area (some EU nations are not part of it, e.g. the UK and some non-EU nations are part of it, e.g. Norway), while the reasoning for the EU posts at airports is due to customs rather than what ID you need to show. No, I am not confising anything :-). All EU countries citzens can enter Poland using their EU ID. They cross the same gates on airports as people from Shengen zone. The only diffrence is that non-Shengen countries' members are subject to diffrent custom regulations and they can be examined by custom officers. It also apply to EEA countries ((Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway) and based on separate treaty also Switzerland. In case of traveling by car or by train - there is no custom control on the German and Czech border at all - but you problably need EU ID or passport when entering Shengen zone in diffrent border. -- Tomek Polimerek Ganicz http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ http://www.ptchem.lodz.pl/en/TomaszGanicz.html ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications
On 26 March 2010 09:10, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote: No, I am not confising anything :-). All EU countries citzens can enter Poland using their EU ID. They cross the same gates on airports as people from Shengen zone. The only diffrence is that non-Shengen countries' members are subject to diffrent custom regulations and they can be examined by custom officers. It also apply to EEA countries ((Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway) and based on separate treaty also Switzerland. I think you are confusing things... I am a British citizen and I'm fairly sure I need a passport to enter a Schengen zone country. Once I'm in a Schengen zone country, I think I can travel to another one with other ID, but I need a passport for the first Schengen country. The Schengen zone has absolutely nothing to do with customs, as far as I know. If you are travelling from an EU country to an EU country, there is basically not customs (you walk through the blue channel). ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications
On 24 March 2010 22:41, Cary Bass c...@wikimedia.org wrote: The call for applications for Wikimania Scholarships to attend Wikimania 2010 https://wm10schols.wikimedia.org/in Gdansk, Poland (July 9-11) is now open. The Wikimedia Foundation offers Scholarships to pay for selected individuals' round trip travel, accommodations, and registration at the conference. I just noticed that! Wow! Is there any lower age limit for Wikimania? I mean, do you have to be a certain age to attend? I might well apply if that's not the case or I'm old enough (16) - it is in Poland after all and I have never been to Poland, fascinating country and for a Wikimedia conference as well - wow! Thanks, -- Regards, Isabell Long. isabell...@gmail.com [[User:Issyl0]] on all public Wikimedia projects. Freenode Community Co-Ordinator - issyl0 on irc.freenode.net PGP Key ID: 0xEB83C2BD ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Isabell Long wrote: On 24 March 2010 22:41, Cary Bass c...@wikimedia.org wrote: The call for applications for Wikimania Scholarships to attend Wikimania 2010 https://wm10schols.wikimedia.org/in Gdansk, Poland (July 9-11) is now open. The Wikimedia Foundation offers Scholarships to pay for selected individuals' round trip travel, accommodations, and registration at the conference. I just noticed that! Wow! Is there any lower age limit for Wikimania? I mean, do you have to be a certain age to attend? I might well apply if that's not the case or I'm old enough (16) - it is in Poland after all and I have never been to Poland, fascinating country and for a Wikimedia conference as well - wow! Thanks, There is not an age limit set for Wikimania as a whole. Essentially, anyone who is eligible for attendance is eligible for scholarship. People who are not of the age of majority in the country of citizenship will undoubtedly require their guardians' permission to travel, and if those people are considered by the scholarship committee, the committee will want to see that proof. As far as the minimum age for attendance, the local team has not set any criteria. It should be considered that this criteria may be different for citizens of the host country to travel in the country than it is for non-Polish citizens. I don't know if being a citizen of an EU country makes a difference for minors traveling across borders. Past Wikimanias have seen scholarship recipients as young as 15 years of age; but the one I remember specifically also traveled with a guardian, who attended the conference as well. There may be other considerations involved in the host country with regards to liability that have to be taken into account when granting a scholarship to someone of that age. Ultimately, there are no restrictions on /applying/ for scholarship so you should feel free to apply. However, the application was designed to allow only for years that start with 19, so people born 2000 or later will have to contact us separately to apply. - -- Cary Bass Volunteer Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkursMcACgkQyQg4JSymDYmlrgCeIWi87UNANUNzvw6Lbjk2OOiW TBYAoIs70xQEgoBDXIDgpLsaBgS5eaTM =tVBk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications
On 25 March 2010 18:51, Cary Bass c...@wikimedia.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Isabell Long wrote: On 24 March 2010 22:41, Cary Bass c...@wikimedia.org wrote: The call for applications for Wikimania Scholarships to attend Wikimania 2010 https://wm10schols.wikimedia.org/in Gdansk, Poland (July 9-11) is now open. The Wikimedia Foundation offers Scholarships to pay for selected individuals' round trip travel, accommodations, and registration at the conference. I just noticed that! Wow! Is there any lower age limit for Wikimania? I mean, do you have to be a certain age to attend? I might well apply if that's not the case or I'm old enough (16) - it is in Poland after all and I have never been to Poland, fascinating country and for a Wikimedia conference as well - wow! Thanks, There is not an age limit set for Wikimania as a whole. Essentially, anyone who is eligible for attendance is eligible for scholarship. People who are not of the age of majority in the country of citizenship will undoubtedly require their guardians' permission to travel, and if those people are considered by the scholarship committee, the committee will want to see that proof. Yep, sure. Thanks, good to know there's not an age limit! As far as the minimum age for attendance, the local team has not set any criteria. It should be considered that this criteria may be different for citizens of the host country to travel in the country than it is for non-Polish citizens. I don't know if being a citizen of an EU country makes a difference for minors traveling across borders. I don't think there are any restrictions but then I am not overly familiar with EU law. Past Wikimanias have seen scholarship recipients as young as 15 years of age; but the one I remember specifically also traveled with a guardian, who attended the conference as well. There may be other considerations involved in the host country with regards to liability that have to be taken into account when granting a scholarship to someone of that age. Sure. If I come I will be travelling with a parent anyway. Ultimately, there are no restrictions on /applying/ for scholarship so you should feel free to apply. However, the application was designed to allow only for years that start with 19, so people born 2000 or later will have to contact us separately to apply. Don't worry, I'm not quite *that* young. Thanks, Isabell. -- Regards, Isabell Long. isabell...@gmail.com [[User:Issyl0]] on all public Wikimedia projects. Freenode Community Co-Ordinator - issyl0 on irc.freenode.net PGP Key ID: 0xEB83C2BD ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications
I don't think there are any restrictions but then I am not overly familiar with EU law. I guess you will not be able to fly without a certified permission of your parents/guardians. The same applies to crossing the borders (I assume you do not need visa to visit Poland). Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications
I don't think there are any restrictions but then I am not overly familiar with EU law. I guess you will not be able to fly without a certified permission of your parents/guardians. The same applies to crossing the borders (I assume you do not need visa to visit Poland). Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications
I don't think there are any restrictions but then I am not overly familiar with EU law. I think you will not be able to fly unaccompanied without a certified permission from your parents / guardians. The same applies to crossing borders. I assume you do not need visa to visit Poland. Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications
On 25 March 2010 19:48, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: I don't think there are any restrictions but then I am not overly familiar with EU law. I guess you will not be able to fly without a certified permission of your parents/guardians. The same applies to crossing the borders (I assume you do not need visa to visit Poland). If you're an EU citizen then you can travel freely between all countries of the EU, supposedly. And no, no flying without permission of course, but I wouldn't go on my own anyway. :) Isabell. -- Regards, Isabell Long. isabell...@gmail.com [[User:Issyl0]] on all public Wikimedia projects. Freenode Community Co-Ordinator - issyl0 on irc.freenode.net PGP Key ID: 0xEB83C2BD ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications
2010/3/25 Isabell Long isabell...@gmail.com: On 24 March 2010 22:41, Cary Bass c...@wikimedia.org wrote: The call for applications for Wikimania Scholarships to attend Wikimania 2010 https://wm10schols.wikimedia.org/in Gdansk, Poland (July 9-11) is now open. The Wikimedia Foundation offers Scholarships to pay for selected individuals' round trip travel, accommodations, and registration at the conference. I just noticed that! Wow! Is there any lower age limit for Wikimania? I mean, do you have to be a certain age to attend? I might well apply if that's not the case or I'm old enough (16) - it is in Poland after all and I have never been to Poland, fascinating country and for a Wikimedia conference as well - wow! If you are from EU you need a valid ID card. If from outside you need a passport. It would be good if you have a written and hand-signed agreement of your parents that you can attend Wikimania and freely travel in Poland. You won't legally attend some late evening meetings, as it is strictly forbiden to provide alcoholic beverages to people below 18, and organisers won't be able to control if you drink beer or not :-) -- Tomek Polimerek Ganicz http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ http://www.ptchem.lodz.pl/en/TomaszGanicz.html ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications
Cary Bass wrote: Ultimately, there are no restrictions on /applying/ for scholarship so you should feel free to apply. However, the application was designed to allow only for years that start with 19, so people born 2000 or later will have to contact us separately to apply. Wow! The Y2K problem lives on. :-) Ec ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications
On 25 March 2010 20:50, Isabell Long isabell...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 March 2010 19:48, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: I don't think there are any restrictions but then I am not overly familiar with EU law. I guess you will not be able to fly without a certified permission of your parents/guardians. The same applies to crossing the borders (I assume you do not need visa to visit Poland). If you're an EU citizen then you can travel freely between all countries of the EU, supposedly. And no, no flying without permission of course, but I wouldn't go on my own anyway. :) You are confusing the Schengen agreement with the trade regulations of the EU. People within the Schengen agreement are allowed to travel without showing passport within that area (some EU nations are not part of it, e.g. the UK and some non-EU nations are part of it, e.g. Norway), while the reasoning for the EU posts at airports is due to customs rather than what ID you need to show. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Call for Wikimania Scholarship Applications
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The call for applications for Wikimania Scholarships to attend Wikimania 2010 https://wm10schols.wikimedia.org/in Gdansk, Poland (July 9-11) is now open. The Wikimedia Foundation offers Scholarships to pay for selected individuals' round trip travel, accommodations, and registration at the conference. To apply, complete and submit the application form: https://wm10schols.wikimedia.org/ For additional information, please visit the Scholarships information and FAQ pages: http://wikimania2010.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships http://wikimania2010.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships/FAQ Please share this announcement with your mailing lists. Thank you. - -- Cary Bass Volunteer Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuqlScACgkQyQg4JSymDYkexACffxr57jQrvsYhu6iTDGHKWdSd ojwAni3Kdmc742iZn93DZGAGXg3WcDvf =2R8g -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
