Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Trouble in Ireland

2008-11-26 Thread Casey Brown
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 Subject: [Foundation-l] Trouble in Ireland
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 I don't know whether this is a reasonable place to put this problem,
 but the articles on Ireland on en.wikipedia.org need a serious look by
 people with a neutral view. Right now we've got a clique of about 10
 editors filibustering and preventing any change to the article naming
 conventions. It's driving us mad, and preventing the articles
 themselves from being improved. Somehow I think we need binding
 arbitration.

 A number of us think that the most sensible proposal is to move
 [[Ireland]] to [[Ireland (island)]], [[Ireland (disambiguation)]] to
 [[Ireland]], and [[Republic of Ireland]] to [[Ireland (state)]].
 That's a compromise over an alternative, which is to move [[Ireland]]
 to [[Ireland (island)]], keep [[Ireland (disambiguation)]] where it
 is, and move [[Republic of Ireland]] to [[Ireland]]. If any of you
 would like to take a look, please see
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ireland_(disambiguation)#Proposed_move_to_Ireland
  and 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ireland#Proposed_move_to_Ireland_.28island.29
 .

 At least I'd like advice as to how we can get out of this mess.

 Michael Everson



There's a place on enwp called the administrators noticeboard, you
can bring this up there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:AN

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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Trouble in Ireland

2008-11-26 Thread effe iets anders
As Michael Bimmler suggested, I think too that wikien-l would be more
appropriate. This is an English Wikipedia issue, not a Wikimedia issue.

BR, Lodewijk

2008/11/26 Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On 26 Nov 2008, at 13:27, Casey Brown wrote:

  There's a place on enwp called the administrators noticeboard, you
  can bring this up there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:AN

 It's already there, at
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AN#Ireland_page_moves
  but most Admins seem to want to stay far away from this.

 Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com


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Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Trouble in Ireland

2008-11-26 Thread Dan Rosenthal
I think perhaps the intent was to get English and Irish editors  
involved. This has been on and off of the noticeboards at  
en.wikipedia.org multiple times, through Arbcom at least once, etc.

-Dan
On Nov 26, 2008, at 9:25 AM, effe iets anders wrote:

 As Michael Bimmler suggested, I think too that wikien-l would be more
 appropriate. This is an English Wikipedia issue, not a Wikimedia  
 issue.

 BR, Lodewijk

 2008/11/26 Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On 26 Nov 2008, at 13:27, Casey Brown wrote:

 There's a place on enwp called the administrators noticeboard, you
 can bring this up there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:AN

 It's already there, at
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AN#Ireland_page_moves
 but most Admins seem to want to stay far away from this.

 Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com


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