Re: [Foundation-l] Help-book made available in en Wikipedia against Licensing Policy
I'm assuming the Image Use Policy. A gentle reminder to those on this list who hail from enwiki: not all of us speak in acronyms. -Chad On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi What is IUP ? Thanks, GerardM 2009/1/29 Chris Down neuro.wikipe...@googlemail.com This is all well and good, but on another note, he has violated the IUP - the images are watermarked. - Chris On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Philippe|Wiki philippe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed with Geoffrey, and I never cease to be amazed at how folks find a way to say zOMG! This Can't Work! instead of OK, let's make this work. We've seen a lot of that the last couple of days on this list. philippe s/days/years/ -Chad ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Help-book made available in en Wikipedia against Licensing Policy
Gerard Meijssen hett schreven: Hoi What is IUP ? Thanks, GerardM [[en:WP:IUP]] Marcus Buck ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Help-book made available in en Wikipedia against Licensing Policy
Specifically thishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_use_policy#User-created_images . - Chris On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Marcus Buck m...@marcusbuck.org wrote: Gerard Meijssen hett schreven: Hoi What is IUP ? Thanks, GerardM [[en:WP:IUP]] Marcus Buck ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Help-book made available in en Wikipedia against Licensing Policy
At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikipedia:_The_Missing_Manual/Title_Page_and_Licensing_Information we read: Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with the Invariant Section being the Author and Publisher Information and no Front-Cover Texts and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled GNU Free Documentation License. This is clearly not compatible with the official policy at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights If you contribute material to Wikipedia, you thereby license it to the public under the GFDL (with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts). On the same page there is a self-contradiction to these clear words: Under Wikipedia's current copyright conditions, and with the current facilities of the MediaWiki software, it is only possible to include in Wikipedia external GFDL materials that contain invariant sections or cover texts, if all of the following apply, You are the copyright holder of these external GFDL materials (or: you have the explicit, i.e. written, permission of the copyright holder to do what follows); The length and nature of these invariant sections and cover texts does not exceed what can be placed in an edit summary; You are satisfied that these invariant sections and cover texts are not listed elsewhere than in the page history of the page where these external materials are placed; You are satisfied that further copies of Wikipedia content are distributed under the standard GFDL application of with no Invariant Sections, with no Front-Cover Texts, and with no Back-Cover Texts (in other words, for the copies derived from wikipedia, you agree that these parts of the text contributed by you will no longer be considered as invariant sections or cover texts in the GFDL sense); The original invariant sections and/or cover texts are contained in the edit summary of the edit with which you introduce the thus GFDLed materials in wikipedia (so, that if permanent deletion would be applied to that edit, both the thus GFDLed material and its invariant sections and cover texts are jointly deleted). Seen the stringent conditions above, it is very desirable to replace GFDL texts with invariant sections (or with cover texts) by original content without invariant sections (or cover texts) whenever possible. I cannot see that the quoted copyright notice fits these conditions. Klaus Graf ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Help-book made available in en Wikipedia against Licensing Policy
I don't think that either the Foundation or Mr. Broughton will be complaining. Drop it. From: Klaus Graf klausg...@googlemail.com To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:59:15 AM Subject: [Foundation-l] Help-book made available in en Wikipedia against Licensing Policy At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikipedia:_The_Missing_Manual/Title_Page_and_Licensing_Information we read: Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with the Invariant Section being the Author and Publisher Information and no Front-Cover Texts and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled GNU Free Documentation License. This is clearly not compatible with the official policy at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights If you contribute material to Wikipedia, you thereby license it to the public under the GFDL (with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts). On the same page there is a self-contradiction to these clear words: Under Wikipedia's current copyright conditions, and with the current facilities of the MediaWiki software, it is only possible to include in Wikipedia external GFDL materials that contain invariant sections or cover texts, if all of the following apply, You are the copyright holder of these external GFDL materials (or: you have the explicit, i.e. written, permission of the copyright holder to do what follows); The length and nature of these invariant sections and cover texts does not exceed what can be placed in an edit summary; You are satisfied that these invariant sections and cover texts are not listed elsewhere than in the page history of the page where these external materials are placed; You are satisfied that further copies of Wikipedia content are distributed under the standard GFDL application of with no Invariant Sections, with no Front-Cover Texts, and with no Back-Cover Texts (in other words, for the copies derived from wikipedia, you agree that these parts of the text contributed by you will no longer be considered as invariant sections or cover texts in the GFDL sense); The original invariant sections and/or cover texts are contained in the edit summary of the edit with which you introduce the thus GFDLed materials in wikipedia (so, that if permanent deletion would be applied to that edit, both the thus GFDLed material and its invariant sections and cover texts are jointly deleted). Seen the stringent conditions above, it is very desirable to replace GFDL texts with invariant sections (or with cover texts) by original content without invariant sections (or cover texts) whenever possible. I cannot see that the quoted copyright notice fits these conditions. Klaus Graf ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Help-book made available in en Wikipedia against Licensing Policy
Agreed with Geoffrey, and I never cease to be amazed at how folks find a way to say zOMG! This Can't Work! instead of OK, let's make this work. We've seen a lot of that the last couple of days on this list. philippe __ Philippe|Wiki philippe.w...@gmail.com [[en:User:Philippe]] On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Geoffrey Plourde wrote: I don't think that either the Foundation or Mr. Broughton will be complaining. Drop it. From: Klaus Graf klausg...@googlemail.com To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:59:15 AM Subject: [Foundation-l] Help-book made available in en Wikipedia against Licensing Policy At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikipedia:_The_Missing_Manual/Title_Page_and_Licensing_Information we read: Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with the Invariant Section being the Author and Publisher Information and no Front-Cover Texts and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled GNU Free Documentation License. This is clearly not compatible with the official policy at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights If you contribute material to Wikipedia, you thereby license it to the public under the GFDL (with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts). On the same page there is a self-contradiction to these clear words: Under Wikipedia's current copyright conditions, and with the current facilities of the MediaWiki software, it is only possible to include in Wikipedia external GFDL materials that contain invariant sections or cover texts, if all of the following apply, You are the copyright holder of these external GFDL materials (or: you have the explicit, i.e. written, permission of the copyright holder to do what follows); The length and nature of these invariant sections and cover texts does not exceed what can be placed in an edit summary; You are satisfied that these invariant sections and cover texts are not listed elsewhere than in the page history of the page where these external materials are placed; You are satisfied that further copies of Wikipedia content are distributed under the standard GFDL application of with no Invariant Sections, with no Front-Cover Texts, and with no Back-Cover Texts (in other words, for the copies derived from wikipedia, you agree that these parts of the text contributed by you will no longer be considered as invariant sections or cover texts in the GFDL sense); The original invariant sections and/or cover texts are contained in the edit summary of the edit with which you introduce the thus GFDLed materials in wikipedia (so, that if permanent deletion would be applied to that edit, both the thus GFDLed material and its invariant sections and cover texts are jointly deleted). Seen the stringent conditions above, it is very desirable to replace GFDL texts with invariant sections (or with cover texts) by original content without invariant sections (or cover texts) whenever possible. I cannot see that the quoted copyright notice fits these conditions. Klaus Graf ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Help-book made available in en Wikipedia against Licensing Policy
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Philippe|Wiki philippe.w...@gmail.comwrote: Agreed with Geoffrey, and I never cease to be amazed at how folks find a way to say zOMG! This Can't Work! instead of OK, let's make this work. We've seen a lot of that the last couple of days on this list. philippe s/days/years/ -Chad ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
