Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update rolled out in all languages/projects
I have four questions/requests: 1) Can you produce a list of all new mediawiki messages related to the change? Also, a list of old messages and their old content is also needed, to help us maintain a certain level of wording consistancy. 2) I have been translating word-by-word from English and found it hard to explain some points. Especially was the idea that Wikipedian's contributions are published as CC-BY-SA *and *as GFDL, while contributions from outside people can be CC-BY-SA only. Why am I (a wikipedian) required to publish my work in both licenses but my non-wikipedian friend isn't? If we are a CC-BY-SA site as presented at the pottom of every en.wiki page, why bother with GFDL licensing? It's too confusing. 3) More importantly, I get the impression that each community can add/change their licensing. Can he.wiki decide that all contributions from this day and onwards will be published as CC-BY-SA only? 4) What is the licensing of pre-June 15th 2009 revisions (which are accessible through the history page)? Are they GFDL *and *CC-BY-SA now? Thanks, Yoni 2009/6/30 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org After an initial reference implementation in the English Wikipedia and some bottom-up implementations in a number of projects, the licensing update to the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License as the primary text license, with GFDL as a secondary license with limitations, has now been implemented in all previously GFDL-licensed Wikimedia Foundation projects. Wiki communities can now customize these texts further in accordance with the implementation guidelines issued by the Wikimedia Foundation at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update/Implementation Importantly, this allows Wikimedia wiki communities to create their own copy of the terms of use, with specific limitations on or guidelines for attribution of externally imported CC-BY-SA content, more detailed explanations for re-users, etc. The implementation guidelines do allow significant flexibility, but we're hoping to ensure baseline consistency across projects and languages, so please do not deviate significantly from the guidelines. (If you feel the guidelines are flawed, feel free to comment on the talk page on meta.) If the messages have not been translated into your language yet, it is appreciated to do this work through translatewiki.net so that it doesn't have to be redundantly done for each Wikimedia project in that language. As translatewiki.net translators know, localization changes from there are rolled out regularly alongside normal code updates. Thanks to our good friends there for helping with the process so far, and thanks to all the translators. The relevant user interface texts are MediaWiki system messages and can be viewed and edited through the MediaWiki: namespace. They are: [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyright]] for the site footer [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning]] for the editing page, above the save/preview buttons [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary]] for the editing page, below the save/preview buttons. For the more technical users, these changes were introduced to MediaWiki in the following code revision: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/52361. They live in the WikimediaMessages extension, which is only used by Wikimedia Foundation wikis. These messages override standard system messages, [[MediaWiki:Copyright]] and [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]]. [[MediaWiki:Edittools]] has sometimes been used to move this type of licensing information below the buttons/summary; the newly introduced [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary]] is meant to reflect this need while allowing us to consistently update/review these messages. Finally, a note on trademark recognition. Some projects have a little trademark notice in the footers, others don't. This notice isn't required (but helpful); we're working on standardized trademark usage guidelines, and we'll probably add a link to the site footer to these once they're finalized. I'll be checking the wikis, and particularly [[m:Talk:Licensing update]] and [[m:Talk:Licensing update/Implementation]] for comments, but please let me know if there are any immediate issues. Thanks, Erik -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing update rolled out in all languages/projects
Hoi, The messages can be found on translatewiki here.. http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslatetask=viewgroup=ext-wikimediamessageslanguage=nllimit=100. Change the nl to your language code and you will find all the messages that are specific to the Wikimedia Foundation including the messages about copyright and licensing. As to question on how things work, things have been explained so many times in so many places that I do not care to answer it. Look for it on Meta, look for it in the archives of the mailing lists and I am sure you find as good an answer as you are likely to get from me. PS I have to look for it as well in order to answer you.; Thanks, GerardM 2009/7/3 Yoni Weiden yonideb...@gmail.com I have four questions/requests: 1) Can you produce a list of all new mediawiki messages related to the change? Also, a list of old messages and their old content is also needed, to help us maintain a certain level of wording consistancy. 2) I have been translating word-by-word from English and found it hard to explain some points. Especially was the idea that Wikipedian's contributions are published as CC-BY-SA *and *as GFDL, while contributions from outside people can be CC-BY-SA only. Why am I (a wikipedian) required to publish my work in both licenses but my non-wikipedian friend isn't? If we are a CC-BY-SA site as presented at the pottom of every en.wiki page, why bother with GFDL licensing? It's too confusing. 3) More importantly, I get the impression that each community can add/change their licensing. Can he.wiki decide that all contributions from this day and onwards will be published as CC-BY-SA only? 4) What is the licensing of pre-June 15th 2009 revisions (which are accessible through the history page)? Are they GFDL *and *CC-BY-SA now? Thanks, Yoni 2009/6/30 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org After an initial reference implementation in the English Wikipedia and some bottom-up implementations in a number of projects, the licensing update to the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License as the primary text license, with GFDL as a secondary license with limitations, has now been implemented in all previously GFDL-licensed Wikimedia Foundation projects. Wiki communities can now customize these texts further in accordance with the implementation guidelines issued by the Wikimedia Foundation at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update/Implementation Importantly, this allows Wikimedia wiki communities to create their own copy of the terms of use, with specific limitations on or guidelines for attribution of externally imported CC-BY-SA content, more detailed explanations for re-users, etc. The implementation guidelines do allow significant flexibility, but we're hoping to ensure baseline consistency across projects and languages, so please do not deviate significantly from the guidelines. (If you feel the guidelines are flawed, feel free to comment on the talk page on meta.) If the messages have not been translated into your language yet, it is appreciated to do this work through translatewiki.net so that it doesn't have to be redundantly done for each Wikimedia project in that language. As translatewiki.net translators know, localization changes from there are rolled out regularly alongside normal code updates. Thanks to our good friends there for helping with the process so far, and thanks to all the translators. The relevant user interface texts are MediaWiki system messages and can be viewed and edited through the MediaWiki: namespace. They are: [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyright]] for the site footer [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning]] for the editing page, above the save/preview buttons [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary]] for the editing page, below the save/preview buttons. For the more technical users, these changes were introduced to MediaWiki in the following code revision: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/52361. They live in the WikimediaMessages extension, which is only used by Wikimedia Foundation wikis. These messages override standard system messages, [[MediaWiki:Copyright]] and [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]]. [[MediaWiki:Edittools]] has sometimes been used to move this type of licensing information below the buttons/summary; the newly introduced [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary]] is meant to reflect this need while allowing us to consistently update/review these messages. Finally, a note on trademark recognition. Some projects have a little trademark notice in the footers, others don't. This notice isn't required (but helpful); we're working on standardized trademark usage guidelines, and we'll probably add a link to the site footer to these once they're finalized. I'll be checking the wikis, and particularly [[m:Talk:Licensing update]] and [[m:Talk:Licensing
[Foundation-l] Licensing update rolled out in all languages/projects
After an initial reference implementation in the English Wikipedia and some bottom-up implementations in a number of projects, the licensing update to the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License as the primary text license, with GFDL as a secondary license with limitations, has now been implemented in all previously GFDL-licensed Wikimedia Foundation projects. Wiki communities can now customize these texts further in accordance with the implementation guidelines issued by the Wikimedia Foundation at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update/Implementation Importantly, this allows Wikimedia wiki communities to create their own copy of the terms of use, with specific limitations on or guidelines for attribution of externally imported CC-BY-SA content, more detailed explanations for re-users, etc. The implementation guidelines do allow significant flexibility, but we're hoping to ensure baseline consistency across projects and languages, so please do not deviate significantly from the guidelines. (If you feel the guidelines are flawed, feel free to comment on the talk page on meta.) If the messages have not been translated into your language yet, it is appreciated to do this work through translatewiki.net so that it doesn't have to be redundantly done for each Wikimedia project in that language. As translatewiki.net translators know, localization changes from there are rolled out regularly alongside normal code updates. Thanks to our good friends there for helping with the process so far, and thanks to all the translators. The relevant user interface texts are MediaWiki system messages and can be viewed and edited through the MediaWiki: namespace. They are: [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyright]] for the site footer [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning]] for the editing page, above the save/preview buttons [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary]] for the editing page, below the save/preview buttons. For the more technical users, these changes were introduced to MediaWiki in the following code revision: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/52361. They live in the WikimediaMessages extension, which is only used by Wikimedia Foundation wikis. These messages override standard system messages, [[MediaWiki:Copyright]] and [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]]. [[MediaWiki:Edittools]] has sometimes been used to move this type of licensing information below the buttons/summary; the newly introduced [[MediaWiki:Wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary]] is meant to reflect this need while allowing us to consistently update/review these messages. Finally, a note on trademark recognition. Some projects have a little trademark notice in the footers, others don't. This notice isn't required (but helpful); we're working on standardized trademark usage guidelines, and we'll probably add a link to the site footer to these once they're finalized. I'll be checking the wikis, and particularly [[m:Talk:Licensing update]] and [[m:Talk:Licensing update/Implementation]] for comments, but please let me know if there are any immediate issues. Thanks, Erik -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
