Re: [Foundation-l] The News Hole

2011-11-25 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:

 There has been some discussion in journalism circles that newspapers, who
 after all, provide the raw material for many of our topical articles
 might copy our system of organizing material under a subject heading

The Guardian already does this in a way, try clicking on one of the
headings here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/list/allnewskeywords

The BBC News site also used to put together something akin to our
portals for some subjects but perhaps they disappeared in the last
redesign since I can't find them now.

Bodnotbod

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Re: [Foundation-l] The News Hole

2011-11-25 Thread HaeB
2011/11/26 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com:
 On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:

 There has been some discussion in journalism circles that newspapers, who
 after all, provide the raw material for many of our topical articles
 might copy our system of organizing material under a subject heading

 The Guardian already does this in a way, try clicking on one of the
 headings here:

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/list/allnewskeywords

 The BBC News site also used to put together something akin to our
 portals for some subjects but perhaps they disappeared in the last
 redesign since I can't find them now.

 Bodnotbod

Yes, it's an interesting development, but not exactly news in the news industry:

http://www.niemanlab.org/2011/02/the-context-based-news-cycle-editor-john-oneil-on-the-future-of-the-new-york-times-topics-pages/
:
O’Neil said he had read a statistic that roughly a third of
Wikipedia’s traffic came from only about 3,000 of its now more than 17
million pages. “We’re concentrating more on that upper end of the
spectrum.”


http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/08/how-the-associated-press-will-try-to-rival-wikipedia-in-search-results/
:The document states flatly, “The Wikipedia model of standing,
authoritative pages could be challenged.”

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[Foundation-l] The News Hole

2011-11-21 Thread Fred Bauder
There has been some discussion in journalism circles that newspapers, who
after all, provide the raw material for many of our topical articles
might copy our system of organizing material under a subject heading, at
least for their online sites.

Even our most aggressive deletionists have never tried to delete
everything that is more than one day old.

Fred


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