[Foundation-l] Top posting
Hoi, An important thread has been derailed by an off topic comment. For your information, and for the somanyth time, top posting comes easy when you use a modern tool like GMAIL. It automatically hides whatever came before. This whole notion has no relevance to me as a consequence. I get hundreds of mails and the notion that one should be answered differently then others is not easy to consider. I answer to the content to a mail and that is not related to who will receive it. Given that for people who use software that is not as helpful as mine, the experience rates as a nuisance as I appreciate it. It is similar to the use of words or acronyms that are likely not to be understood. For me KTHX is one such, the top rated result makes it a radio station and it took me some time to find that it is likely to mean Ok, thanks. The point is not that such words or acronyms should not be used, it is just to indicate that nuisances come in many forms and are a fact of life. Thanks, GerardM ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Top posting
Gerard Meijssen, 14/06/2010 13:44: For me KTHX is one such, the top rated result makes it a radio station and it took me some time to find that it is likely to mean Ok, thanks. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kthx Time: 1 s? Nemo ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Top posting
Sorry for going off-topic again in an off-topic thread of a really interesting on-topic thread.. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kthx Time: 1 s? If you don't count the probability that one gets stuck on Wikipedia for hours on end reading fascinating articles on internet culture... I think that using eloquent expressions, cultural references and abbreviations (in the last week I have learned two new words for transparent) add to the style of conversation, which while a good thing in itself has the downside that every time one has to Google an expression the natural flow of the given thread is interrupted for them. In addressing an international audience one should be aware that certain expressions might divert the reader[1] and lead to the original message not being received by the reader as intended. Best, Bence [1] In case of kthx one might end up reading the The Fader fashion magazine, which in a recent edition used the kthx expression. In the case of the synonyms for transparent one could brush up on his reading of the English Classics: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/_/search/Search.aspx?SearchBy=4Word=pellucidSearch=SearchBy=0 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Top posting
On 06/14/2010 04:44 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: For your information, and for the somanyth time, top posting comes easy when you use a modern tool like GMAIL. It automatically hides whatever came before. This whole notion has no relevance to me as a consequence. I get hundreds of mails and the notion that one should be answered differently then others is not easy to consider. I answer to the content to a mail and that is not related to who will receive it. [...] The difference is that we're really talking about two different media. Email is great for small groups of involved people having a discussion. Large mailing lists are ways of using the tools of email to distribute content to thousands of people with widely differing levels of involvement and engagement. It's publishing, disguised as discussion. That throws a lot of people off. If you're having trouble telling the difference between the two because you've chosen to use the same tool for both, one possible solution is for you to use a different tool for each. There are plenty of other solutions, too. Pursuing any of them requires, of course, that the writer values the reader experience over authorial convenience. I think that's helpful in any sort of publishing, not just mailing lists. Helpful for readers and writers alike. William ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Top posting
kthx On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, An important thread has been derailed by an off topic comment. For your information, and for the somanyth time, top posting comes easy when you use a modern tool like GMAIL. It automatically hides whatever came before. This whole notion has no relevance to me as a consequence. I get hundreds of mails and the notion that one should be answered differently then others is not easy to consider. I answer to the content to a mail and that is not related to who will receive it. Given that for people who use software that is not as helpful as mine, the experience rates as a nuisance as I appreciate it. It is similar to the use of words or acronyms that are likely not to be understood. For me KTHX is one such, the top rated result makes it a radio station and it took me some time to find that it is likely to mean Ok, thanks. The point is not that such words or acronyms should not be used, it is just to indicate that nuisances come in many forms and are a fact of life. Thanks, GerardM ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Top posting
I'm very disappointed that this discussion has continued at the expense of one that I find to be much more important to our projects. Can all of us go back over there and stop talking about this? Kthx. m. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com wrote: kthx On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, An important thread has been derailed by an off topic comment. For your information, and for the somanyth time, top posting comes easy when you use a modern tool like GMAIL. It automatically hides whatever came before. This whole notion has no relevance to me as a consequence. I get hundreds of mails and the notion that one should be answered differently then others is not easy to consider. I answer to the content to a mail and that is not related to who will receive it. Given that for people who use software that is not as helpful as mine, the experience rates as a nuisance as I appreciate it. It is similar to the use of words or acronyms that are likely not to be understood. For me KTHX is one such, the top rated result makes it a radio station and it took me some time to find that it is likely to mean Ok, thanks. The point is not that such words or acronyms should not be used, it is just to indicate that nuisances come in many forms and are a fact of life. Thanks, GerardM ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Top posting
Mark Williamson wrote: I'm very disappointed that this discussion has continued at the expense of one that I find to be much more important to our projects. Can all of us go back over there and stop talking about this? Kthx. I agree. I made my point. You either get it, or you don't. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Top posting
Hoi, I agree, I replied and made my point, You either accept it or you don't. Thanks, GerardM PS I get it. On 14 June 2010 22:21, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Williamson wrote: I'm very disappointed that this discussion has continued at the expense of one that I find to be much more important to our projects. Can all of us go back over there and stop talking about this? Kthx. I agree. I made my point. You either get it, or you don't. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Top posting
It is actually gratifying to notice that you actually do know how to remove parts of a message you are replying to, which aren't necessary for comprehension. Thank you very much. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
