Re: [Foundation-l] wikimedia fundraiser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Did they add a button Read Now on the donation campaign banner or did I miss it earlier? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM4RJiAAoJEHCAuDvx9Z6Luy0IAJMzG5NHjA0Uv7HPk9iJ2ElH ke9ntFcydVvTqF5ZTB+EPOdUSvTsaYBgI/pb4KZdme7j8sj6YptIJWqG2jRPVnCh 8LtoV2cwyshzg9z6gbU3LAFTnEJFuHBD4rrsMIHD00AoeaX1/4yKX7cVSkhXzC3T r+J62GSuHzXEk10Dkgzz3gyxFokZdFboKpTt6QcFZK3gI1MM9X8lDTiciN/P436J FgpbmwhPrd2tsqxjkhS+FRBo/5SqBJ+2+CsSvN6kC/RAhPQILglx5aP0ezup/2gc XmEiITAAYTz1JeS53uSPHnsRpLEgG5KaXJbduutK0F36AUV3RRXLVv2JhQd+tic= =K8an -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] wikimedia fundraiser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Did they add a button Read Now on the donation campaign banner or did I miss it earlier? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM4RGkAAoJEHCAuDvx9Z6LoVUIANNFMCkKVUXKt6sz4D6P5EN8 jeEWDnMDsTNCG8BbPxhsniT21dYQO3z/MrL3z/8HzhZN20by78rtxXGgu9emyRkv 6UhyVfILZzYHf/bVDf+aV+FjOnhtkYLf0ISJxlnUPXgakaOwJXl88hQIR0wvbXmu b1P8x+8AYUAvk0hS+2K3x7lwNIQw9g6bN4EN+0Akb6B+qERO5/9niSRSlbzjwPa9 IgzLInVyfyNa76cUEp7awZG34glXG0gIo28HCLDJdbkI0dP8FtbB7HITAvWWjOf7 VyFGqXi8ygh8JL1Gu0gdlvGCMRZIHXJr/q0iUTMrflRj5WIf3BWUyWXLFnEFKWM= =cn+z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] wikimedia fundraiser
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:17 AM, luke lenny lennybodom...@gmail.com wrote: why can't wikimedia publish advertisements and generate revenue and become self-reliant,self-sustainable , instead of asking for funds from user every year again and again... Because we prefer having Jimmy stare us down once a year to having Viagra sit in the sidebar all year long :) -Chad ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] wikimedia fundraiser
why can't wikimedia publish advertisements and generate revenue and become self-reliant,self-sustainable , instead of asking for funds from user every year again and again... ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] wikimedia fundraiser
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 17:17, luke lenny lennybodom...@gmail.com wrote: why can't wikimedia publish advertisements and generate revenue and become self-reliant,self-sustainable , instead of asking for funds from user every year again and again... See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Perennial_proposals#Advertising . -- אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי · Amir Elisha Aharoni http://aharoni.wordpress.com We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace. - T. Moore ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] wikimedia fundraiser
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 3:17 PM, luke lenny lennybodom...@gmail.com wrote: why can't wikimedia publish advertisements and generate revenue and become self-reliant,self-sustainable , instead of asking for funds from user every year again and again... There's a number of issues. But painting it in broad terms; although advertising might make the projects *financially* stable, it may not make their *content* stable. That's to say, a lot of contributors / volunteers / editors might leave. I'd argue with your terminology, though. You say that advertising would make the Foundation self-reliant and self-sustainable. It wouldn't be though, would it? It would be reliant on advertisers and sustained by advertisers. Bodnotbod ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] wikimedia fundraiser
Also because it's good for people to have to think year by year. makes them aware and not take it for granted. People who have some investment (be it effort or money or time or whatever) value something more. A wider community that has a reason to care is worth building - especially as the Wikimedia mission isn't just build a website but make available free knowledge. In that context people willing to care matter, as an integral part of the mission. FT2 On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 3:17 PM, luke lenny lennybodom...@gmail.com wrote: why can't wikimedia publish advertisements and generate revenue and become self-reliant,self-sustainable , instead of asking for funds from user every year again and again... There's a number of issues. But painting it in broad terms; although advertising might make the projects *financially* stable, it may not make their *content* stable. That's to say, a lot of contributors / volunteers / editors might leave. I'd argue with your terminology, though. You say that advertising would make the Foundation self-reliant and self-sustainable. It wouldn't be though, would it? It would be reliant on advertisers and sustained by advertisers. Bodnotbod ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] wikimedia fundraiser
I have to say, I think it is good that wikimedia is not advertising funded, because you provide a great service that is not geared to looking at advertising. Most webpages force you to look at ads, wikipedia does not. I think it is a valuable resource and worth the donations. We are working on translating the donation interface to albanian now, and hope to find sponsors in that region. mike On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:36 PM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: Also because it's good for people to have to think year by year. makes them aware and not take it for granted. People who have some investment (be it effort or money or time or whatever) value something more. A wider community that has a reason to care is worth building - especially as the Wikimedia mission isn't just build a website but make available free knowledge. In that context people willing to care matter, as an integral part of the mission. FT2 On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 3:17 PM, luke lenny lennybodom...@gmail.com wrote: why can't wikimedia publish advertisements and generate revenue and become self-reliant,self-sustainable , instead of asking for funds from user every year again and again... There's a number of issues. But painting it in broad terms; although advertising might make the projects *financially* stable, it may not make their *content* stable. That's to say, a lot of contributors / volunteers / editors might leave. I'd argue with your terminology, though. You say that advertising would make the Foundation self-reliant and self-sustainable. It wouldn't be though, would it? It would be reliant on advertisers and sustained by advertisers. Bodnotbod ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova and Albania flossk.org flossal.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
