Re: [Foundation-l] Going to far

2011-07-19 Thread Huib Laurens
Did you even read the E-mail? How should the Ombudsman commission handle
this case, it are administrators copying personal information into Wikimedia
Wiki's...


2011/7/18 MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com

 Huib Laurens wrote:
  I regret the fact that I need to e-mail to this list, but I tried and
 tried
  but can't work it out with the people involved. I talked about letting it
 go
  but that doesn't seem the right thing to do also, so maybe a discussion
 on
  this list can make something happen.

 I can't imagine you regret sending this e-mail as much as I regret trying
 to
 parse it. From what I can tell, this list isn't the appropriate forum.
 Whatever your issue is, it's buried beneath a wall of text and what appears
 to be years of antics on your part.

 If you have reason to believe that the Wikimedia privacy policy has been
 violated, you should contact the Ombudsman commission:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_commission.

 If you would like to have certain information removed from a particular
 Wikimedia wiki, you can try contacting the wiki's oversighters or
 Arbitration Committee. If you've ruined or soured those relationships to
 the
 point that those individuals are unwilling to respond, then that's a bed of
 your own making and you'll simply have to live with the consequences of
 your
 actions.

 You're also free to contact individual members of Wikimedia Foundation
 staff
 or OTRS, but there doesn't appear to be much (if anything) that needs to be
 discussed that relates to the purpose or mission of this mailing list.

 MZMcBride



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Re: [Foundation-l] Going to far

2011-07-19 Thread Béria Lima
Huib, the OC knows where the edit button is... I'm pretty sure they can
remove all libel info if they think they should.
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2011/7/19 Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com

 Did you even read the E-mail? How should the Ombudsman commission handle
 this case, it are administrators copying personal information into
 Wikimedia
 Wiki's...


 2011/7/18 MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com

  Huib Laurens wrote:
   I regret the fact that I need to e-mail to this list, but I tried and
  tried
   but can't work it out with the people involved. I talked about letting
 it
  go
   but that doesn't seem the right thing to do also, so maybe a discussion
  on
   this list can make something happen.
 
  I can't imagine you regret sending this e-mail as much as I regret trying
  to
  parse it. From what I can tell, this list isn't the appropriate forum.
  Whatever your issue is, it's buried beneath a wall of text and what
 appears
  to be years of antics on your part.
 
  If you have reason to believe that the Wikimedia privacy policy has been
  violated, you should contact the Ombudsman commission:
  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_commission.
 
  If you would like to have certain information removed from a particular
  Wikimedia wiki, you can try contacting the wiki's oversighters or
  Arbitration Committee. If you've ruined or soured those relationships to
  the
  point that those individuals are unwilling to respond, then that's a bed
 of
  your own making and you'll simply have to live with the consequences of
  your
  actions.
 
  You're also free to contact individual members of Wikimedia Foundation
  staff
  or OTRS, but there doesn't appear to be much (if anything) that needs to
 be
  discussed that relates to the purpose or mission of this mailing list.
 
  MZMcBride
 
 
 
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Re: [Foundation-l] Going to far

2011-07-19 Thread Lodewijk
The ombudsman commission (
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_commission ) handles complaints
about violations of privacy policy. It is not so much a committee to
actually do the deletions indeed, but if you feel wrongly treated by the
administrators because they refuse to execute the privacy policy, the
Ombudsman commission should be the right way to go.

This list might be a proper forum if you identify that the ombudsman
commission does not function at all though, but as I understand it, you have
not yet explored the options there.

With kind regards,

Lodewijk

2011/7/19 Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com

 Did you even read the E-mail? How should the Ombudsman commission handle
 this case, it are administrators copying personal information into
 Wikimedia
 Wiki's...


 2011/7/18 MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com

  Huib Laurens wrote:
   I regret the fact that I need to e-mail to this list, but I tried and
  tried
   but can't work it out with the people involved. I talked about letting
 it
  go
   but that doesn't seem the right thing to do also, so maybe a discussion
  on
   this list can make something happen.
 
  I can't imagine you regret sending this e-mail as much as I regret trying
  to
  parse it. From what I can tell, this list isn't the appropriate forum.
  Whatever your issue is, it's buried beneath a wall of text and what
 appears
  to be years of antics on your part.
 
  If you have reason to believe that the Wikimedia privacy policy has been
  violated, you should contact the Ombudsman commission:
  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_commission.
 
  If you would like to have certain information removed from a particular
  Wikimedia wiki, you can try contacting the wiki's oversighters or
  Arbitration Committee. If you've ruined or soured those relationships to
  the
  point that those individuals are unwilling to respond, then that's a bed
 of
  your own making and you'll simply have to live with the consequences of
  your
  actions.
 
  You're also free to contact individual members of Wikimedia Foundation
  staff
  or OTRS, but there doesn't appear to be much (if anything) that needs to
 be
  discussed that relates to the purpose or mission of this mailing list.
 
  MZMcBride
 
 
 
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Re: [Foundation-l] Going to far

2011-07-19 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 19 July 2011 11:54, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:
 This list might be a proper forum if you identify that the ombudsman
 commission does not function at all though, but as I understand it, you have
 not yet explored the options there.

If the ombudsman aren't doing a good job, then I think contacting
either Sue Gardner (ED of WMF) or Ting Chen (Chair of WMF board) would
be more productive than a discussion on this list. Obviously, the
ombudsman should be given a chance to do their job first.

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Re: [Foundation-l] Going to far

2011-07-18 Thread MZMcBride
Huib Laurens wrote:
 I regret the fact that I need to e-mail to this list, but I tried and tried
 but can't work it out with the people involved. I talked about letting it go
 but that doesn't seem the right thing to do also, so maybe a discussion on
 this list can make something happen.

I can't imagine you regret sending this e-mail as much as I regret trying to
parse it. From what I can tell, this list isn't the appropriate forum.
Whatever your issue is, it's buried beneath a wall of text and what appears
to be years of antics on your part.

If you have reason to believe that the Wikimedia privacy policy has been
violated, you should contact the Ombudsman commission:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_commission.

If you would like to have certain information removed from a particular
Wikimedia wiki, you can try contacting the wiki's oversighters or
Arbitration Committee. If you've ruined or soured those relationships to the
point that those individuals are unwilling to respond, then that's a bed of
your own making and you'll simply have to live with the consequences of your
actions.

You're also free to contact individual members of Wikimedia Foundation staff
or OTRS, but there doesn't appear to be much (if anything) that needs to be
discussed that relates to the purpose or mission of this mailing list.

MZMcBride



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