Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Board of Trustees meeting agenda

2012-01-30 Thread phoebe ayers
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:18 PM, En Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Phoebe,

 On this agenda, could you give more detail about the topic Paid editing 
 discussion? There is a current discussion on EN at the Village Pump 
 regarding, among other things, PR personnel who edit on Wikipedia in ways 
 that might violate NPOV and COI policy. It would be good to know if the Board 
 is taking up this specific subject. Alternatively, if paid editing 
 discussion instead is about editors which will be paid by WMF to edit, I 
 think the community would want to know that this is will be discussed.

 Thanks,

 Pine

Pine: the former, I believe; I haven't heard anything about the latter :)

Beria: the calendar is posted here --
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_and_Funds_Dissemination
As I understand it we are going to try to get quite indepth into the
recommendations at this meeting, and see if there is consensus to
date, but not take a final vote.

-- phoebe

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Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Board of Trustees meeting agenda

2012-01-30 Thread Sue Gardner
Just adding to what Phoebe said (and sorry to top-post): my recommendations
are not finalized and have not been submitted formally to the Board. I
don't intend to submit them as-is: they will be shaped by the discussion
that's been happening thus far, by my own evolving views, and by input from
the Board at its meeting. What I am looking for out of the Board meeting is
to get nearer to a consensus WRT what direction we want to take.

Thanks,
Sue
On Jan 30, 2012 8:02 AM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:18 PM, En Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  Phoebe,
 
  On this agenda, could you give more detail about the topic Paid editing
 discussion? There is a current discussion on EN at the Village Pump
 regarding, among other things, PR personnel who edit on Wikipedia in ways
 that might violate NPOV and COI policy. It would be good to know if the
 Board is taking up this specific subject. Alternatively, if paid editing
 discussion instead is about editors which will be paid by WMF to edit, I
 think the community would want to know that this is will be discussed.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Pine

 Pine: the former, I believe; I haven't heard anything about the latter :)

 Beria: the calendar is posted here --
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_and_Funds_Dissemination
 As I understand it we are going to try to get quite indepth into the
 recommendations at this meeting, and see if there is consensus to
 date, but not take a final vote.

 -- phoebe

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Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Board of Trustees meeting agenda

2012-01-27 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi Phoebe, Often the most interesting thing about an agenda is what it
omits.  So the first board meeting after the SOPA blackout is not going to
discuss blackouts, SOPA and lobbying?

WereSpielChequers

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 Hi all,

 The WMF Board of Trustees is planning our winter meeting for next
 weekend. The draft agenda is posted here for comment:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Board_Meetings/February_3-4,_2012

 This is a very full agenda, focusing on three main topics: the WMF
 annual planning process for 2012/2013, fundraising and funds
 dissemination models, and the movement roles process.

 -- Phoebe
 (Board of Trustees Secretary, 2011-2012)

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Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Board of Trustees meeting agenda

2012-01-27 Thread Kat Walsh
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:41 PM, WereSpielChequers
werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Phoebe, Often the most interesting thing about an agenda is what it
 omits.  So the first board meeting after the SOPA blackout is not going to
 discuss blackouts, SOPA and lobbying?

I am assuming Legal will bring it up in the context of the annual plan!

But in our last in person board meeting--very shortly after the
Italian blackout, though I swear I put it on the agenda before
that!--we discussed whether this was something we should get involved
with/devote resources to at all, and what it would mean for us:

https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2011-10-07 (search for advocacy)

Now we're just into specific implementations. :-)

-Kat

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Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Board of Trustees meeting agenda

2012-01-27 Thread En Pine

Phoebe,

On this agenda, could you give more detail about the topic Paid editing 
discussion? There is a current discussion on EN at the Village Pump regarding, 
among other things, PR personnel who edit on Wikipedia in ways that might 
violate NPOV and COI policy. It would be good to know if the Board is taking up 
this specific subject. Alternatively, if paid editing discussion instead is 
about editors which will be paid by WMF to edit, I think the community would 
want to know that this is will be discussed.

Thanks,

Pine

 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:22:56 -0800
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 Hi all,
 
 The WMF Board of Trustees is planning our winter meeting for next
 weekend. The draft agenda is posted here for comment:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Board_Meetings/February_3-4,_2012
 
 This is a very full agenda, focusing on three main topics: the WMF
 annual planning process for 2012/2013, fundraising and funds
 dissemination models, and the movement roles process.
 
 -- Phoebe
 (Board of Trustees Secretary, 2011-2012)
 
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Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Board of Trustees meeting agenda

2012-01-27 Thread Béria Lima
Phoebe, this meeting is not the one to approve or not the Recomendations
from Sue, right? I always imagined that would be AFTER the meeting in Paris.
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On 27 January 2012 17:22, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 The WMF Board of Trustees is planning our winter meeting for next
 weekend. The draft agenda is posted here for comment:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Board_Meetings/February_3-4,_2012

 This is a very full agenda, focusing on three main topics: the WMF
 annual planning process for 2012/2013, fundraising and funds
 dissemination models, and the movement roles process.

 -- Phoebe
 (Board of Trustees Secretary, 2011-2012)

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 * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers
 at gmail.com *

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Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Board of Trustees meeting agenda

2012-01-27 Thread phoebe ayers
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Kat Walsh k...@mindspillage.org wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:41 PM, WereSpielChequers
 werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Phoebe, Often the most interesting thing about an agenda is what it
 omits.  So the first board meeting after the SOPA blackout is not going to
 discuss blackouts, SOPA and lobbying?

 I am assuming Legal will bring it up in the context of the annual plan!

 But in our last in person board meeting--very shortly after the
 Italian blackout, though I swear I put it on the agenda before
 that!--we discussed whether this was something we should get involved
 with/devote resources to at all, and what it would mean for us:

 https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2011-10-07 (search for 
 advocacy)

 Now we're just into specific implementations. :-)

 -Kat

What Kat said -- also, in general, topics that don't make it to the
in-person agenda are usually discussed over email and/or IRC; the
in-person time is so limited that we try to limit to topics that would
really benefit from face-to-face discussions. This meeting in
particular we are trying a slightly different strategy in that we
tried to limit the number of topics discussed, so we can go further
in-depth for each one. Also, I think broad advocacy discussions will
certainly continue for a long time into the future (versus the annual
planning and fundraising discussions, which are time-sensitive).

phoebe

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