Re: GNOME Foundation Budget
On 8/12/05, Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/12/05, Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think people will have to tell us what they think needs explaining. One other question: how did we do at the end of the year, compared to our predicted budgets for the year? We don't really have this data for 2004, because we didn't actually do a budget (to the best of my recollection) but we did do one for this year, so maybe some comparisons would be good. [Obviously this is a hard one, because GUADEC is so unpredictable, but it would be good to see how we did everywhere else.] Luis ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Foundation Budget
Heya, > Some questions offhand (many of these are answerable by going through > the existing reports for 2003/2004, but I'd love to see them pulled > out and more easily discoverable.) And some more for me that I forwarded to Tim separately, but they'd probably be more suitable posting here - Support === o What are the 20K of General Contributions? Earned Revenue == o Who are the companies that have provided Advisory Board of 30K? o Why do we have an earned revenue of 2K in Administration Fees? Operating Expenses == o Can you break down the Administration? What are the fees for GIMP, Bounty and GUADEC? I assume it is basically the percentage time of your salary that you spend on General, GIMP, Bounty and GUADEC? o What is the breakdown of the 31K in the GUADEC? o The breakdown of the GUADEC figures don't seem to match that of the report in guadec-2004-financial-summary.pdf? Why not? o Supplies seems high - what was the breakdown of that? Glynn ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Foundation Budget
> [For informative purposes of the foundation, I figured I'd answer these as > best as possible for the previous three years.][This would all have been > easier had the data been presented as a .gnumeric file instead of pdf :) Excellent summary, thank you! - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2006: Dunedin, New Zealand http://linux.conf.au/ "Python amazes me for its concision. The current prototype is all of 900 lines of code, yet it contains a lexer, parser (recursive descent), core language interpreter, and parallelizing process spawner." - Raph Levien on Rebar ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Foundation Budget
[For informative purposes of the foundation, I figured I'd answer these as best as possible for the previous three years.][This would all have been easier had the data been presented as a .gnumeric file instead of pdf :) On 8/12/05, Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * what percentage of our money goes towards administration? including payroll taxes and the payroll service: 2004: 47.8% Average since 2002: 48.9% > Other major expenditure categories? GUADEC is the only other very large category, but is hard to break out separately because of changes in accounting over the years. We did finally get the budgeting right (which is hard in this case) in 2004, so we'll be better off there in the future. In 2004, non-admin GUADEC expenses were 24.6% of our overall expenses. Also in 2004, non-admin bounty expenses were 7% of overall expenses, and about 16% of revenue. The other ~20% of expenses went to a variety of things- in order of size, insurance, GIMP, 'supplies', postage/shipping, etc. > * what was our surplus/deficit for the year? (in other words, how > vulnerable are we if one or two major sponsors pull out?) Our average surplus over the past three years has been ~$23K. So if we lose an ad board member (we have reason to think we'll be adding at least some in the near future) we're still OK. > * what percentage of revenue comes from different sources? (FOG, > GUADEC, Advisory Board, etc.?) in 2004, Ad Board was a little under a fifth of our revenues; down from a little under half in 2003 and 2/3rds in 2002. [Though I think perhaps in 2002 GUADEC donations from our board was lumped in with the Ad Board fees?] FOG has been much smaller, though in 2004 it was nearly 1/2 as much money as Advisory Board (~$15K as opposed to $30K). I expect that revenue from both this and merchandise sales should rise in fiscal 2006. > And what types of revenue do we have- > in-kind, recurring pledges, one-time pledges, etc.? 'unearned' revenue- i.e., revenue that in theory is unpredictable from year to year, unlike our ad board pledges- was 76.0% of revenue last year, up from 32 and 37 the years before. I guess that much of that leap is probably because of changes in how GUADEC revenue is booked, though. Tim, is that correct? > * what are our assets? Our balances? do we have outstanding > liabilities? (i.e. what resources can we draw on in a pinch, or if a > great idea comes to the board?) These I still have no idea about, though our ongoing surplus suggests we should have a large positive balance on hand, which is great to see. > * what are the trends on all of these? Are we making more money, less > money? more or less of our revenue coming from FOG? spending > more/less? are we saving money for a rainy day or big opportunity, or > are we draining our savings? Because of the changes in where/how GUADEC is accounted for, I decided not to generate too much of these. The overall trends, though, are obviously increased expenditures and increased revenues, mostly driven by GUADEC. Throwing out some data- Luis ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Foundation Budget
On 8/12/05, Luis Villa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think people will have to tell us what they think needs explaining. Another one is travel and trade show budgets- I know we sent Tim to LWE SF in 2004, for example- is that money under conference/trade shows? travel? This is unclear in the 2004 budget. Also, and this is more just a question about the old budgets than a general question- the 2002 budget says there is no GUADEC revenue and does not break out GUADEC contributions separately, the 2003 budget shows ~$25K in 'earned' conference revenue, but 0 in separate GUADEC contributions, and 2004 shows only $7K in 'earned' conference revenue and $60K in GUADEC contributions. I assume these fluctuations are just because we accounted for GUADEC differently in 2002, 2003, and 2004, and in the future we'll just book everything as we did in 2004? Luis ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Plans for GUADEC 2007, yes 2007
However the reason you are saying that Ubuntu is shipping non-free software is not known to me (well, the only place, where I see non-free software might be, is device drivers, but that is a fault of hardware vendors. And it is reasonable to use them, isn't it? I don't remember which programs in Ubuntu are non-free; perhaps they are device drivers. Someone else recently said that's what they are, so that seems likely. The reason why distributing non-free device drivers is harmful is that distributing any non-free program says, in effect, "Non-free programs aren't so bad." After all, if you thought it was really bad to install a non-free program, you wouldn't suggest it to others. And if using a non-free device driver is acceptable because we call it the hardware companies' fault, then what about using Sun's Java libraries and saying that's Sun's fault, or using Adobe's e-book reader with DRM and saying that's Adobe's fault, or RealPlayer's spyware-player and saying that's RealPlayer's fault, etc? Of course we want GNU/Linux to be successful, but why is that goal important? Because our system is a way to escape from non-free software. Anyway, I don't want to turn this into a long digression from the topic of planning GUADEC 2007. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Foundation Budget
On 8/9/05, Owen Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 09:17 +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: > > Hey, > > > > On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 17:14 +1200, Glynn Foster wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > > > > Budget information is trickling out, and we're engaging in concrete > > > > plans to do things beyond GUADEC. We still need to be able to do > > > > things like 'show what we spend money on beyond GUADEC and > > > > administration', and enhance those aspects of our operation. Past > > > > that, more than anything else, we need to push foundation PR- the > > > > foundation needs to market itself to the community and convince the > > > > community that it is relevant. I think we need to highlight > > > > 'foundation money did this, foundation employee did that', and do that > > > > repeatedly. We don't, and that makes people think foundation is > > > > irrelevant, which is part of why we see such disinterest in becoming a > > > > foundation member, I think. > > > > > > While we're on the subject, is there likely to be financial report > > > anytime soon? Only asking as I uploaded a recent statement, and it would > > > be good to get a mail from the Foundation to accompany it and explaining > > > some of the details involved. Tim? > > > > Ping? Are are we just going to be treated to the figures in > > > > http://foundation.gnome.org/finance/gnome-foundation-fiscal-year-04-and-03.pdf > > > > and expect to know what they all mean? > > I think people will have to tell us what they think needs explaining. Some questions offhand (many of these are answerable by going through the existing reports for 2003/2004, but I'd love to see them pulled out and more easily discoverable.) * what percentage of our money goes towards administration? Other major expenditure categories? * what was our surplus/deficit for the year? (in other words, how vulnerable are we if one or two major sponsors pull out?) * what percentage of revenue comes from different sources? (FOG, GUADEC, Advisory Board, etc.?) And what types of revenue do we have- in-kind, recurring pledges, one-time pledges, etc.? (that one is a little more obscure, I'll grant :) * what are our assets? Our balances? do we have outstanding liabilities? (i.e. what resources can we draw on in a pinch, or if a great idea comes to the board?) * what are the trends on all of these? Are we making more money, less money? more or less of our revenue coming from FOG? spending more/less? are we saving money for a rainy day or big opportunity, or are we draining our savings? slightly OT: * where is our money? if tim gets hit by a bus, who rescues it? [linux.org.au posts this information their webpage, which reminded me of this question.] * when do we expect a proposed budget for the next fiscal year? I'm sure I'll think of more. Luis ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Plans for GUADEC 2007, yes 2007
On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 13:23 +0300, Žygimantas Beručka wrote: > Pn, 2005 08 12 11:31 +0100, Ghee Teo - Desktop System rašė: > > > Of course the most challenging task then is to come up with proper > > way to pronouce > > "GUADWC" :) > > However, there is a light at the end of a tunnel, when we will manage to > take a GNOME user on Mars we could rename it to "GUADUC", U as as in > Universe. :) Hey Shuttleworth, are you ready for a new chalenge? :) Keep GUADEC. E == Everywhere now. -JP -- JP Rosevear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Novell, Inc. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Plans for GUADEC 2007, yes 2007
Pn, 2005 08 12 11:31 +0100, Ghee Teo - Desktop System rašė: > Of course the most challenging task then is to come up with proper > way to pronouce > "GUADWC" :) However, there is a light at the end of a tunnel, when we will manage to take a GNOME user on Mars we could rename it to "GUADUC", U as as in Universe. :) Hey Shuttleworth, are you ready for a new chalenge? :) Žygis ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Plans for GUADEC 2007, yes 2007
Jeff Waugh wrote: whatever distro is being used/promoted in Lithuania, I myself would be really happy to see GUADEC there. Once we conquer Eastern Europe, Russia and Asia are very close :) And we won't even need elephants! :-) Of course the most challenging task then is to come up with proper way to pronouce "GUADWC" :) -Ghee - Jeff ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
