GTK and Adobe Flash

2008-05-19 Thread info
Dear Miss, Sir,

I have a question that is difficult to answer.
We have an application in GTK and we want to embed Adobe Flash 9 into it.
Is there a way to realize this?
Now we do it by embedding firefox but we want native support.
I have found some things about adobe we can assign a window id but all
versions that i try have no window id option.

Can you point me in the right direction.

Regards,

Johan Smits

The Netherlands.

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Where to find minutes of bi-weekly GF board meetings?

2008-05-19 Thread Ciaran O'Riordan

Apologies if this has already been discussed (but if it has, the webpage
needs to be updated).

Does the board still have regular (phone) meetings?  And if there are
minutes, and if they are published, where can I find them?

Thanks.

http://foundation.gnome.org/about/

  The Board of Directors meets every other week with a phone conference to
   discuss various topics pertaining to the regular activities of the GNOME
   Foundation and GNOME. The minutes to these meetings are posted publicly
   on the foundation-list archives.

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Re: Where to find minutes of bi-weekly GF board meetings?

2008-05-19 Thread Luis Villa
Minutes get sent to foundation-announce:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-announce/

The last two meetings were not minuted because they were on a private
board-only matter; I've been meaning to send an announcement to
foundation-announce about that, but exams have made it difficult for
me to do anything in a timely manner. My apologies.

Luis

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Ciaran O'Riordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Apologies if this has already been discussed (but if it has, the webpage
 needs to be updated).

 Does the board still have regular (phone) meetings?  And if there are
 minutes, and if they are published, where can I find them?

 Thanks.

 http://foundation.gnome.org/about/

  The Board of Directors meets every other week with a phone conference to
   discuss various topics pertaining to the regular activities of the GNOME
   Foundation and GNOME. The minutes to these meetings are posted publicly
   on the foundation-list archives.

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Re: GTK and Adobe Flash

2008-05-19 Thread Richard M Stallman
I don't think any of the free software flash players handles Flash 9.
Gnash has partly implemented it, but not completely; its maintainer
says that swfdec is less advanced.

If that is true, it is a bad thing to use Flash 9, because you would,
in effect, be pressuring people to use the non-free Adobe flash player.
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Re: GTK and Adobe Flash

2008-05-19 Thread Hubert Figuiere

On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 21:09 -0400, Richard M Stallman wrote:
 I don't think any of the free software flash players handles Flash 9.
 Gnash has partly implemented it, but not completely; its maintainer
 says that swfdec is less advanced.
 
 If that is true, it is a bad thing to use Flash 9, because you would,
 in effect, be pressuring people to use the non-free Adobe flash
 player.

Worse. Whatever is the state of the Free Software implementation, using
Flash is bad for Free Software, because Flash is not an open standard,
is a poorly documented format, and leverage non-royalty free
technologies like MP3, Sorenson Sparks, ON2 VP6, partial support of
MPEG4, etc.

So whatever version of Flash it is, it is not good for Free Software, on
an advocating point of view.

But we are really sliding off-topic now.

Hub

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Re: Where to find minutes of bi-weekly GF board meetings?

2008-05-19 Thread Luis Villa
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Minutes get sent to foundation-announce:
 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-announce/

 The last two meetings were not minuted because they were on a private
 board-only matter; I've been meaning to send an announcement to
 foundation-announce about that, but exams have made it difficult for
 me to do anything in a timely manner. My apologies.

Two clarifications:

* 'private board-only' should be read as 'currently board
confidential'; we generally dislike doing anything private and
obviously do that only when absolutely necessary, and we hope at some
point in the near future to reveal as much as possible about this.

* to clarify, this was one regular meeting + one 'special' meeting.
There is at least one other regular meeting whose minutes are stuck in
my queue; I hope to get to that shortly, but as I've just started a
new job this week, my time is going to be sort of sporadic for a
while.

Luis
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Re: GTK and Adobe Flash

2008-05-19 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2008/5/20 Hubert Figuiere [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Worse. Whatever is the state of the Free Software implementation, using
 Flash is bad for Free Software, because Flash is not an open standard,
 is a poorly documented format, and leverage non-royalty free
 technologies like MP3, Sorenson Sparks, ON2 VP6, partial support of
 MPEG4, etc.

 So whatever version of Flash it is, it is not good for Free Software, on
 an advocating point of view.

For what it's worth (not much in this context I guess), the Open
Screen Project seems like a step in the right direction:

  http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/faq/

Not an open standard, but at least you now have permission to read the
specs and implement a player with the knowledge. Given that Flash is a
technology that won't vanish overnight even if all open source
developers would hope for it really hard tonight before going to bed,
any help on implementing an open source solution to access that
content is probably a good thing, even if the formats aren't.

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