Re: 2009 Annual Report - Help Needed
Hi Paul, Paul Cutler wrote: I'm looking for help in writing the 2009 Annual Report, especially with articles about GUADEC, GNOME user groups, and hackfests. If you're interested in writing an article about your GUADEC experience or help in recapping all the usergroup activities last year, the help is needed! Do you have a table of contents with a list of articles you want, and a rough word count you need? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New GNOME Foundation Members
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 10:31 -0300, Bruno Boaventura wrote: Hello everybody! The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee is proud to present the new members: - Bradley M. Kuhn - Holger Berndt - Jim Evins - Joanmarie Diggs - Juan Jose Marin Martinez - Scott Balneaves If your name is on the list above, you're welcome!!! Feel embraced! Being part of GNOME Foundation you're contributing more with GNOME. If you aren't on the list, and you are close of one of them, please say Welcome to GNOME Foundation and embrace them. At your service, GNOME Foundation Membership Committee Dear membership committee, Could you at least include a small description of these people when sending out these announcements (it's part of the application, copy-paste!)? I'd love to welcome them and collaborate with those that work in related areas, but unfortunately I don't know all of them. I've been bringing this point up since GUADEC 2008 in Istanbul and I still haven't seen any response to it. It's a two minute effort, but it would make the integration of new members so much nicer. Is this possible please, or will I have to complain about this again in six months? Lovingly yours (I truly appreciate the work you guys do), Ruben ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New GNOME Foundation Members
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 10:31 -0300, Bruno Boaventura wrote: Hello everybody! The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee is proud to present the new members: - Bradley M. Kuhn - Holger Berndt - Jim Evins - Joanmarie Diggs - Juan Jose Marin Martinez Hi there, I'm the last guy. I've made a few small contributions to GNOME, specially small patches to Evince. I was lucky because these patches help me to obtain my Master Thesis on Free Software. I'm happy for being officially part of GNOME :) -- Juanjo Marín -- Juan José Marín Martínez Tlf: 956009437 (Corp. 409437) Móvil: 671596200 (Corp. 696200) Fax: 956009445 (Corp. 409445) Informática. Consejería de Cultura. DP Cádiz. Junta de Andalucía ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New GNOME Foundation Members
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 11:45 +0100, Ruben Vermeersch wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 10:31 -0300, Bruno Boaventura wrote: Dear membership committee, Could you at least include a small description of these people when sending out these announcements (it's part of the application, copy-paste!)? I'd love to welcome them and collaborate with those that work in related areas, but unfortunately I don't know all of them. I've been bringing this point up since GUADEC 2008 in Istanbul and I still haven't seen any response to it. It's a two minute effort, but it would make the integration of new members so much nicer. Is this possible please, or will I have to complain about this again in six months? Why don't we ask the new members to give a short introduction themselves? -- Philip Van Hoof, freelance software developer home: me at pvanhoof dot be gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org http://pvanhoof.be/blog http://codeminded.be ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New GNOME Foundation Members
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 13:24 +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 11:45 +0100, Ruben Vermeersch wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 10:31 -0300, Bruno Boaventura wrote: Dear membership committee, Could you at least include a small description of these people when sending out these announcements (it's part of the application, copy-paste!)? I'd love to welcome them and collaborate with those that work in related areas, but unfortunately I don't know all of them. I've been bringing this point up since GUADEC 2008 in Istanbul and I still haven't seen any response to it. It's a two minute effort, but it would make the integration of new members so much nicer. Is this possible please, or will I have to complain about this again in six months? Why don't we ask the new members to give a short introduction themselves? That has been suggested before and it never happens. Only rarely does a new member introduce himself/herself (kudos to them). ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New GNOME Foundation Members
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 13:31 +0100, Ruben Vermeersch wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 13:24 +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 11:45 +0100, Ruben Vermeersch wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 10:31 -0300, Bruno Boaventura wrote: Dear membership committee, Could you at least include a small description of these people when sending out these announcements (it's part of the application, copy-paste!)? I'd love to welcome them and collaborate with those that work in related areas, but unfortunately I don't know all of them. I've been bringing this point up since GUADEC 2008 in Istanbul and I still haven't seen any response to it. It's a two minute effort, but it would make the integration of new members so much nicer. Is this possible please, or will I have to complain about this again in six months? Why don't we ask the new members to give a short introduction themselves? That has been suggested before and it never happens. Only rarely does a new member introduce himself/herself (kudos to them). Okay, that's easy to solve. We just make it a requirement for becoming a foundation member. And we document this requirement on the live pages and in a welcome mail. If they don't introduce themselves, we just unmember them a few days later. I'm guessing the foundation board can make a decision about this? It doesn't sound to me like something we need to do a vote on ;) Cheers, Philip -- Philip Van Hoof, freelance software developer home: me at pvanhoof dot be gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org http://pvanhoof.be/blog http://codeminded.be ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New GNOME Foundation Members
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Ruben Vermeersch ru...@savanne.be wrote: Why go through all the hassle if we can just copy/paste the description they already wrote :-) (also, the membership process can take some time, does it mean we should stay home and monitor our mailboxes to watch out for the 7-days introduction warning?) Yeah, I just want some statement. A no is fine as well, as long as it has a good reason. I've mentioned this quite a few times already now but I never got a decent reply. We'll do it next time. Sorry about forget this. An alternative is change the announce mail to request the information from new members. What do you think? ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New GNOME Foundation Members
Le vendredi 12 février 2010, à 13:43 +0100, Philip Van Hoof a écrit : On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 13:37 +0100, Pascal Terjan wrote: I'm for suggesting it in the welcome email, not for enforcing it The problem is that without any such enforcement, the rule is pointless and will lead to the current situation where some new guys do and a lot of others don't introduce themselves. I really hope we don't need rules for this. It's not really a good way to welcome people to first tell them hey, if you don't do this, we kick you out. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New GNOME Foundation Members
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Bruno Boaventura wrote: We'll do it next time. Sorry about forget this. An alternative is change the announce mail to request the information from new members. What do you think? yes, I agree with this. We just can't enforce someone to send an intro mail to the list, but we can just say it's highly recommended to do it. (changing the announce mail script would be a nice fix) Also we can't remove someone's membership just because an intro did not get sent to the list. We just need to remember that every Foundation Member contributed to GNOME in a substantial way and therefore I would absolutely disagree on removing his membership just for this. That said, we are setting up a meeting for the Membership Committee really soon and we will take care of having this issue fixed. Any suggestion is welcome in the meantime. cheers, -- .''`. : :' : Andrea Veri a...@debian.org, `. `'a...@ubuntu.com, `- a...@gnome.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
New member introduction
The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee is proud to present the new members: - Bradley M. Kuhn - Holger Berndt - Jim Evins - Joanmarie Diggs - Juan Jose Marin Martinez Hi! I'm the second-to-last one. :-) My DayJob is as an assistive technology specialist with the Carroll Center for the Blind. Nights, evenings, and weekends for the past almost four years, I've been one of the developers of the Orca screen reader. I've also been dabbling in WebKitGtk accessibility lately. :-) I'm thrilled to be a Foundation member, and really appreciate the welcome messages I've received from those of you I already know. I look forward to getting to know the rest of you. Take care. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New GNOME Foundation Members
On Fr, 12.02.2010 11:45, Ruben Vermeersch wrote: The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee is proud to present the new members: - Bradley M. Kuhn - Holger Berndt - Jim Evins - Joanmarie Diggs - Juan Jose Marin Martinez - Scott Balneaves Could you at least include a small description of these people when sending out these announcements (it's part of the application, copy-paste!)? I'd love to welcome them and collaborate with those that work in related areas, but unfortunately I don't know all of them. Hello folks! My biggest contribution to the GNOME project so far was the split-view mode for Nautilus (well, the version that Alex based his review on, of course). Other than that, I listed some recent modest contributions and areas of interest in my application form: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/membership-committee/2010-February/msg00018.html Other than that, I'm a Germany-based free software enthusiast. On the non-GNOME FOSS background side, I am a team member of the Claws Mail MUA. And of course, I am totally exciting to be part of the GNOME foundation now! Holger ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New member introduction
Hi! I'm the second-to-last one. :-) My DayJob is as an assistive technology specialist with the Carroll Center for the Blind. Nights, evenings, and weekends for the past almost four years, I've been one of the developers of the Orca screen reader. I've also been dabbling in WebKitGtk accessibility lately. :-) I'm thrilled to be a Foundation member, and really appreciate the welcome messages I've received from those of you I already know. I look forward to getting to know the rest of you. Joanie and all, Welcome on board! :-) Regards, Harry Take care. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New GNOME Foundation Members
Hi, Philip Van Hoof wrote: Okay, that's easy to solve. We just make it a requirement for becoming a foundation member. And we document this requirement on the live pages and in a welcome mail. If they don't introduce themselves, we just unmember them a few days later. I'm guessing the foundation board can make a decision about this? It doesn't sound to me like something we need to do a vote on ;) Just to point out that the process for becoming a foundation member is already quite intimidating - one has to ask, suggest people who can give references, give reasons why one is worthy to join the club, and often wait weeks or months for any reaction. Often the reaction is your references haven't gotten back to us. We also don't hear about the people who hear back sorry, you haven't proven yourself yet, try again later. People joining the foundation have already included a lot of information in their application - Ruben's suggestion that that be included in the welcome mail is a reasonable one. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New GNOME Foundation Members
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 15:02 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Philip Van Hoof wrote: Okay, that's easy to solve. We just make it a requirement for becoming a foundation member. And we document this requirement on the live pages and in a welcome mail. If they don't introduce themselves, we just unmember them a few days later. I'm guessing the foundation board can make a decision about this? It doesn't sound to me like something we need to do a vote on ;) Just to point out that the process for becoming a foundation member is already quite intimidating - OTOH we've had complaints about that we should clean up the membership list (remove old inactive members, I recall that came from you). So apparently the existing base wants some sort of quality? Fair enough. I also don't think that introducing yourself is asking too much. It feels natural to me to expect that from a new member, to be honest. Membership does come with services, having to briefly present yourself is a small price to pay for that. If becoming a foundation member is intimidating, then we should try to find out why. We shouldn't avoid adding reasonable new requirements. In my opinion can clear requirements (that count for everybody) make things less intimidating. Whereas vagueness is counterproductive here. Clarity works. one has to ask, suggest people who can give references, give reasons why one is worthy to join the club, and often wait weeks or months for any reaction. Often the reaction is your references haven't gotten back to us. We also don't hear about the people who hear back sorry, you haven't proven yourself yet, try again later. People joining the foundation have already included a lot of information in their application - Ruben's suggestion that that be included in the welcome mail is a reasonable one. Yeah, that sounds fine to me too. But then I would propose to require filling in this field. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Van Hoof, freelance software developer home: me at pvanhoof dot be gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org http://pvanhoof.be/blog http://codeminded.be ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New GNOME Foundation Members
Hi, Philip Van Hoof wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 15:02 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Just to point out that the process for becoming a foundation member is already quite intimidating - OTOH we've had complaints about that we should clean up the membership list (remove old inactive members, I recall that came from you). So apparently the existing base wants some sort of quality? Fair enough. You're mixing up things. I think I mentioned, in the context of planet GNOME maintenance, removing the blogs of people who have somehow left GNOME. On another occasion I also mentioned that GNOME has had considerable turnover and we might want to ask ourselves why - which of those are you thinking of? The membership committee already has a renewal process built in - members are supposed to renew every 2 years (although now that I think of it, I don't remember the last time I got that). Typically, people only tend to look when elections are coming up whether they're still a member or not. I also don't think that introducing yourself is asking too much. It feels natural to me to expect that from a new member, to be honest. I see it as similar to bringing a new person into a club, or taking a date to a party. You don't expect the new person to make the effort to present themselves to everyone, the host introduces them and breaks the ice, or the existing members come over say hi. What you're asking is the equivalent of going up to someone in a party saying so, who're you then? Isn't it more natural for someone to say Hi everybody, this is Gladys, she's just moved here from Tijuana, where she ran a very successful drug smuggling and illegal immigration business. Let's show her a big welcome tonight, okay? Yeah, that sounds fine to me too. But then I would propose to require filling in this field. It is already compulsory. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New GNOME Foundation Members
2010/2/12 Juanjo Marin juanj.ma...@juntadeandalucia.es: On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 10:31 -0300, Bruno Boaventura wrote: Hello everybody! The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee is proud to present the new members: - Bradley M. Kuhn - Holger Berndt - Jim Evins - Joanmarie Diggs - Juan Jose Marin Martinez Hi there, I'm the last guy. I've made a few small contributions to GNOME, specially small patches to Evince. I was lucky because these patches help me to obtain my Master Thesis on Free Software. I'm happy for being officially part of GNOME :) Hey Juanjo! Glad to see you here ;) And for the other new members I don't know: welcome too! -- Javier Jardón Cabezas ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New member introduction
2010/2/12 Joanmarie Diggs joanmarie.di...@gmail.com: The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee is proud to present the new members: - Bradley M. Kuhn - Holger Berndt - Jim Evins - Joanmarie Diggs - Juan Jose Marin Martinez Hi! I'm the second-to-last one. :-) My DayJob is as an assistive technology specialist with the Carroll Center for the Blind. Nights, evenings, and weekends for the past almost four years, I've been one of the developers of the Orca screen reader. I've also been dabbling in WebKitGtk accessibility lately. :-) Thanks a lot for your wonderful and valuable work! Welcome to the foundation! I'm thrilled to be a Foundation member, and really appreciate the welcome messages I've received from those of you I already know. I look forward to getting to know the rest of you. Take care. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list -- Un saludo, Alberto Ruiz ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New GNOME Foundation Members
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 00:26 +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote: Not to mention it would be very interesting to me at least; to know why new members have taken an interest in GNOME. Yes, to me too. Again, as I said before, clarity isn't a bad thing. If this is a matter of clarity, the archives are public. You can always check who is applying, renewing, supporting, being approved, etc. http://mail.gnome.org/archives/membership-committee/ -- Germán Póo-Caamaño Concepción - Chile http://www.gnome.org/~gpoo/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New member introduction
El vie, 12-02-2010 a las 07:55 -0500, Joanmarie Diggs escribió: I'm thrilled to be a Foundation member, and really appreciate the welcome messages I've received from those of you I already know. I look forward to getting to know the rest of you. And we appreciate your contributions to GNOME :-). Thanks Joanmarie, and welcome! ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Sysadmin Team Update (and looking for 2 volunteers)
Hi all, I wanted to give you a brief update on the Sysadmin team. Last April, Owen sent out an email[1] outlining changes to the Sysadmin team and a goal of hiring a part-time System Administrator to help coordinate the Sysadmin team. (And we're getting closer to be the goal every day!) Last year John Carr oversaw the team and the Sysadmin team was able to work on a number of improvements to the GNOME infrastructure, including a Bugzilla upgrade, installing a CRM system and web analytics application for the Marketing team and Plone, a CMS for a new www.gnome.org. In October I volunteered to help with coordinating the team as John stepped down[2] and with a new year starting a couple other members have indicated they don't have time to help right now as well. We have lots of improvements planned for this year such as bringing a brand new server online (thanks to Jeff Schroeder's donation!) and migrating services from older servers to the new one, Git and Damned Lies integration, integrating all GNOME servers with Puppet and scoping Tomboy Online. That's just to name a few - we also have a number of tasks open in Bugzilla in the sysadmin component. We are looking for two volunteers to join the team to help with these projects and more. As Owen mentioned last year, team member responsibilities include: * Attending the IRC meetings * Regularly spending time handling routine tasks * Volunteering for infrastructure development projects as needed We have a number of projects planned for this year, so that 3rd bullet is important! If you are interested in joining the team, please join the gnome-infrastructure mailing list[3] and introduce yourself, why you want to join and any relevant skills or experience you have. It is helpful if you have been active in other GNOME teams and can have someone vouch for you. (We are talking about giving you root access to GNOME servers, after all!) If you have any questions, please feel free to send me an email, email the infrastructure list or stop by the #sysadmin IRC channel on GIMPNet IRC. Thanks. Paul [1] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-infrastructure/2009-April/msg00075.html [2] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-infrastructure/2009-October/msg00020.html [3] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-infrastructure ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
