Re: How about creating addons.gnome.org

2010-08-10 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
Johannes Schmid wrote at 06:28 (EDT) on Monday:

> As all the applications involved are GPL'd any addons need to follow
> the GPL, too so I don't see a problem here that would require any
> special treatment.(IANAL).

IANAL either, but I believe that is quite correct.  Plugins to GPL'd
programs would have to be GPL'd as well.

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Re: How about creating addons.gnome.org

2010-08-10 Thread Gil Forcada
El dt 10 de 08 de 2010 a les 09:43 -0400, en/na Jose Aliste va escriure:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Johannes Schmid  wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> >> So to stress things, the site should clearly state that the plugins
> >> are property of their developers and that problems should go to them
> >> (as the addons.mozilla.org does)  Of course we could also showcase
> >> GNOME-"blessed" plugins with some logo of Gnome. For me "blessed"w
> >> would mean are to  be defined as maintained in a repository in the
> >> gnome git server.
> >
> > Wouldn't it be better to restrict us to high quality plugins in the first
> > place? So, basically, getting accepted on addons.gnome.org would mean to
> > deliver quality code, translation and documentation.
> >
> > We could have some kind of "staging" area of course but I would want this
> > area to be disabled by default, with a clear "You have been warned"-sign
> > attached to it.
> I totally agree with you. However, who would be responsible to review
> a plugin outside the staging area?

Let's first focus on what we need to create a first prototype version of
it, link somehow with libpeas [1] and then we can start adding staging
areas and flowers and rainbows.

I mean, obviously that there are lot of things to work out, but it would
get more interest from developers and users if there's something to play
with.

For example we can start allowing only themes (for gnome-appearance
capplet and gedit color styles) and backgrounds (again for
gnome-appearance capplet).

Then after this works successfully we can add snippets for Anjuta,
plugins for EOG, GNOME Shell and gedit and so on.

My 5 cents,

Cheers,

[1] http://git.gnome.org/browse/libpeas

> >
> > Remember that we aren't a company that needs to promote its appstore by
> > having lots of stuff there and we can concentrate on quality. See [1]
> > related to that.
> This was never in my mind ;) I am not an apple fan :). I am a Gnome fan.
> 
> Greetings
> 
> José
> 
> 
> >
> > Regards,
> > Johannes
> >
> > [1] http://www.mobileuserexperience.com/?p=896
> >
> >
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Re: How about creating addons.gnome.org

2010-08-10 Thread Jose Aliste
Hi,

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Johannes Schmid  wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> So to stress things, the site should clearly state that the plugins
>> are property of their developers and that problems should go to them
>> (as the addons.mozilla.org does)  Of course we could also showcase
>> GNOME-"blessed" plugins with some logo of Gnome. For me "blessed"w
>> would mean are to  be defined as maintained in a repository in the
>> gnome git server.
>
> Wouldn't it be better to restrict us to high quality plugins in the first
> place? So, basically, getting accepted on addons.gnome.org would mean to
> deliver quality code, translation and documentation.
>
> We could have some kind of "staging" area of course but I would want this
> area to be disabled by default, with a clear "You have been warned"-sign
> attached to it.
I totally agree with you. However, who would be responsible to review
a plugin outside the staging area?

>
> Remember that we aren't a company that needs to promote its appstore by
> having lots of stuff there and we can concentrate on quality. See [1]
> related to that.
This was never in my mind ;) I am not an apple fan :). I am a Gnome fan.

Greetings

José


>
> Regards,
> Johannes
>
> [1] http://www.mobileuserexperience.com/?p=896
>
>
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Re: How about creating addons.gnome.org

2010-08-10 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi!

> So to stress things, the site should clearly state that the plugins
> are property of their developers and that problems should go to them
> (as the addons.mozilla.org does)  Of course we could also showcase
> GNOME-"blessed" plugins with some logo of Gnome. For me "blessed"w
> would mean are to  be defined as maintained in a repository in the
> gnome git server.

Wouldn't it be better to restrict us to high quality plugins in the first
place? So, basically, getting accepted on addons.gnome.org would mean to
deliver quality code, translation and documentation.

We could have some kind of "staging" area of course but I would want this
area to be disabled by default, with a clear "You have been warned"-sign
attached to it.

Remember that we aren't a company that needs to promote its appstore by
having lots of stuff there and we can concentrate on quality. See [1]
related to that.

Regards,
Johannes

[1] http://www.mobileuserexperience.com/?p=896

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Re: How about creating addons.gnome.org

2010-08-10 Thread Jose Aliste
Hi Steve,

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Steve Frécinaux  wrote:
> On 08/08/2010 02:55 PM, Jose Aliste wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I sent this to the gnome-web-list but there was instructed to send it
>> here, so it can be more widely discussed (and maybe also in the next
>> gnome foundation meeting)
>>
>> The idea is simple (but long and complex to implement). I would love
>> to have a site addons.gnome.org, so we can have nice database with
>> plugins and other addons for desktop apps. The idea would be to
>> "borrow" ideas from the addons site of mozilla and it should support
>> different types of add-ons (for instance, for gedit, we have plugins,
>> language files, style-themes to name a few).
>>
>> So what do you think about this?
>
> This is an idea the gedit team had for some time but never realized due to
> lack of time resources.
>
> The nice thing here is that with the recent trend toward using a single
> library for several apps the interaction code only needs to be written and
> debugged once...

Thanks for sharing this. Actually that's why I got interested in the idea.
>
> Anyway I'm a bit frightened by the potential stability issues implied by
> such a "blessed" open plugin repository.

That's a main point to address, put in another words, what do users
would expect from addons there. I want to stress that in my mind, this
would  not a "blessed" open repository. As you know, plugins code
quality differs a lot from plugin to plugin, and also they are several
independent plugins trying to do the same thing.  Havings
addons.gnome.org(AGO), would just help us to motivate plugins dev to
improve their code (by having more users of their code) and probably
getting together to work ( I am just guessing).

So to stress things, the site should clearly state that the plugins
are property of their developers and that problems should go to them
(as the addons.mozilla.org does)  Of course we could also showcase
GNOME-"blessed" plugins with some logo of Gnome. For me "blessed"w
would mean are to  be defined as maintained in a repository in the
gnome git server.


Greetings,

José

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Re: How about creating addons.gnome.org

2010-08-10 Thread Steve Frécinaux

On 08/08/2010 02:55 PM, Jose Aliste wrote:

Hi All,

I sent this to the gnome-web-list but there was instructed to send it
here, so it can be more widely discussed (and maybe also in the next
gnome foundation meeting)

The idea is simple (but long and complex to implement). I would love
to have a site addons.gnome.org, so we can have nice database with
plugins and other addons for desktop apps. The idea would be to
"borrow" ideas from the addons site of mozilla and it should support
different types of add-ons (for instance, for gedit, we have plugins,
language files, style-themes to name a few).

So what do you think about this?


This is an idea the gedit team had for some time but never realized due 
to lack of time resources.


The nice thing here is that with the recent trend toward using a single 
library for several apps the interaction code only needs to be written 
and debugged once...


Anyway I'm a bit frightened by the potential stability issues implied by 
such a "blessed" open plugin repository.

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