Re: sponsoring a GNOME developer training session at Fedora Action Day Ghana

2011-01-20 Thread Brian Cameron 


Ben:

This sounds like a wonderful opportunity.  Thanks for continuing to
help us in this valuable way.  Some questions:

- When is the date?
- Considering it doesn't make sense to travel to someplace like Ghana
  for just 1 day, how many days lodging do you think is reasonable to
  motivate volunteers to consider helping us in this way?
- What language is the conference held in?  Should this affect who goes?
- Are there any concerns about getting visas?
- Does the event need to be focused on Fedora?  If The GNOME Foundation
  were sending people, could we get "GNOME" or "Free Software" in the
  event title?
- What visibility do you expect The GNOME Foundation will get from this?
- Could you provide more details about the budget?
- Could the GNOME training sessions be held on other days than the
  conference, so that the volunteer would need to be there for more
  than 1 day?  Or does it make sense to discuss with the event
  organizers making it a 2-day event or something?

We'd have to see a more detailed budget and plan to make a decision,
but it sounds very reasonable.  It is important to the GNOME Foundation
to reach out to the developing world.

Are there other conferences in Africa that you think we should be
planning to send people?

I do think that there should be an announcement on the developing-world
list.  I think we could be better about posting updates to that list,
and notification about possibly interesting events like this.

Brian



Isaac Sanni-Thomas, one of the Ghanian Fedora Ambassadors that I met
at Idlelo [1] last year, is organizing a Fedora Action Day (FAD) [2]
in Accra, Ghana:

http://d3vnulls.blogspot.com/2010/12/fad-2011-in-ghana.html

As part of my continued interest in GNOME related outreach activities
in Sub-Saharan Africa, I would like to help setup a GNOME developer
training session at this event. This is a great opportunity to promote
GNOME in this region because the primary organizors of this event are
from Ghana and are already working within F/OSS communities. We have a
good chance of attracting people to the GNOME community at this event.

What are the possibilities for getting travel sponsorship for this
event for 1 or 2 people (not necessarily me)? Here are suggestions for
sessions I would like to see but it really depends on the
person/people going:

* tour of GNOME 3
* hands on session working through the GNOME development work flow
(bugzilla, git, fixing real a bug or two, etc)
* hands on developer training - work through adding a small feature to
a GNOME module

I think it would be appropriate to have GNOMErs who have already been
doing outreach work in less economically developed countries run these
sessions but this is not required. I attended the 'GNOME in Asia and
Brazil' session run by Emily Chen and Jonh Wendell this year at
GUADEC. I think both of these people are good candidates for running
these training sessions at the Accra FAD. I haven't actually spoken to
either them yet so I could also post a request of volunteers on my
blog. Or one of you guys could ask for volunteers and pick an
appropriate person/people.

One of the challenges I see with this proposal is that Ghana is a long
way to travel in terms of time and money for only a one day event. One
of my personal goals for my outreach activities is to make this kind
of situation disappear by having GNOMErs in Sub-Saharan Africa. But
since we're not there yet, we're left with this situation.

Thanks for your time. I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

Thanks, Ben

1. http://www.idlelo.net/
2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD
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Re: How to open Gnome Malaysia Usergroup

2011-01-20 Thread Brian Cameron 


Mohd:

On 01/19/11 06:28 AM, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote:

Dear sir,

I`m representative form Open Source Developer Club Malaysia (OSDCMY). We
are the local community in Malaysia that promote and market OSS to
Malaysia people. We now to ready to lead the OSS community in Malaysia s
now we start many project for OSS any link with may OSS community in
Malaysia like Ubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE, FreeBSD, Joomla, Drupal and etc.


Note that GNOME is a Free Software project.  There are some open source
groups that do have a "GNOME Users Group" subgroup.  According to the
GNOME Users Group guidelines:

  http://live.gnome.org/UserGroups/Guidelines

It is expected that GNOME Users Groups do make an effort to promote and
foster both GNOME and free software.  There is also a Code of Conduct
and Speaker Guidelines that apply to GNOME Users Groups members when
they are representing GNOME or at GNOME related functions.  There are
other details you should review in the Guidelines to fully understand.

Just so you understand what a "GNOME Users Group" means.

Brian
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sponsoring a GNOME developer training session at Fedora Action Day Ghana

2011-01-20 Thread Ben Konrath 
Hi board members,

Isaac Sanni-Thomas, one of the Ghanian Fedora Ambassadors that I met
at Idlelo [1] last year, is organizing a Fedora Action Day (FAD) [2]
in Accra, Ghana:

http://d3vnulls.blogspot.com/2010/12/fad-2011-in-ghana.html

As part of my continued interest in GNOME related outreach activities
in Sub-Saharan Africa, I would like to help setup a GNOME developer
training session at this event. This is a great opportunity to promote
GNOME in this region because the primary organizors of this event are
from Ghana and are already working within F/OSS communities. We have a
good chance of attracting people to the GNOME community at this event.

What are the possibilities for getting travel sponsorship for this
event for 1 or 2 people (not necessarily me)? Here are suggestions for
sessions I would like to see but it really depends on the
person/people going:

* tour of GNOME 3
* hands on session working through the GNOME development work flow
(bugzilla, git, fixing real a bug or two, etc)
* hands on developer training - work through adding a small feature to
a GNOME module

I think it would be appropriate to have GNOMErs who have already been
doing outreach work in less economically developed countries run these
sessions but this is not required. I attended the 'GNOME in Asia and
Brazil' session run by Emily Chen and Jonh Wendell this year at
GUADEC. I think both of these people are good candidates for running
these training sessions at the Accra FAD. I haven't actually spoken to
either them yet so I could also post a request of volunteers on my
blog. Or one of you guys could ask for volunteers and pick an
appropriate person/people.

One of the challenges I see with this proposal is that Ghana is a long
way to travel in terms of time and money for only a one day event. One
of my personal goals for my outreach activities is to make this kind
of situation disappear by having GNOMErs in Sub-Saharan Africa. But
since we're not there yet, we're left with this situation.

Thanks for your time. I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

Thanks, Ben

1. http://www.idlelo.net/
2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD
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Re: How to open Gnome Malaysia Usergroup

2011-01-20 Thread Emily Chen 
I am ccing: gugmasters-l...@gnome.org which is a list for GNOME User Groups
organizers worldwide. They will have some useful experience of how to build
GNOME Users Group. We can discuss more in this mail list.

Cheers,
-Emily
2011/1/20 Brian Cameron 

>
> Also, look here:
>
>   http://live.gnome.org/UserGroups
>
> There is even a FAQ.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> On 01/19/11 10:18 PM, Frederic Muller wrote:
>
>> Dear Mohd Fazli Azran,
>>
>> I think you already have a lot of good suggestions and pointers to start
>> your new project. I'll recommend an excellent howto on running GNU/Linux
>> User Groups which can be applied to GNOME User Groups right here:
>> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/User-Group-HOWTO.html
>>
>> You have about 15+ years of people experience in one single document
>> about what and what not to do to make your group successful. you just
>> need to apply some of the topics to be GNOME specific but overall a
>> great start for your group.
>>
>> See you soon either online or live!
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> On 01/20/2011 11:25 AM, Pockey Lam wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Mohd,
>>>
>>> It's nice to see you so passionate about FOSS and GNOME!
>>>
>>> You can find a lot of useful information about how to start and run a
>>> local GNOME community at http://live.gnome.org/UserGroups
>>>
>>> As Brian mentioned, gugmasters and GNOME.Asia groups [1] are the right
>>> places for you to contact.
>>>
>>> As a core member of GNOME.Asia [2] , our aim is to grow the GNOME
>>> community in Asia. We have members from China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, India,
>>> Vietnam, Singapore, Philippines, Indonesia, etc. it would be nice if we
>>> can have representatives from Malyasia as well! We have been also
>>> helping local communities to start and grow their GNOME communities, we
>>> can definitely put you in touch with other Asian Gugs (GNOME User
>>> Groups), please do subscribe to the two mailing lists [1] and we can
>>> talk more over there!
>>>
>>> [1] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-asia-list
>>> [1] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gugmasters-list
>>> [2] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia
>>> [2] http://gnome.asia
>>>
>>> One more thing! As the next major release, GNOME 3.0 is coming in early
>>> April, we highly encourage local communities to celebrate this big
>>> release, more information can be found at
>>> http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/LaunchParty. By hosting activities,
>>> it can definitely help to boost GNOME awareness and users locally as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> There are indeed too much information to give regarding this topic and
>>> we are all excited to see you joining us!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Pockey
>>>
>>> On 01/20/2011 04:14 AM, Brian Cameron wrote:
>>>

 Mohd:

 Thank you for expressing an interest in setting up a GNOME Users Group.

 Note that The GNOME Foundation has official User's Groups sign the
 "Trademark Agreement for Users Groups" which you can find here:

 http://live.gnome.org/Trademark

 So, the first step would be to send bo...@gnome.org a signed copy of
 the form if you find it agreeable.

 Also the gugmasters mailing list is for people interested in GNOME
 User's Groups, so it would be a good forum to join and discuss further.
 Information about the list, including subscription information, is
 here:

 http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gugmasters-list
 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gugmasters-list/

 There is also a mailing list for GNOME users in Malaysia:

 http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-my-list

 Also, you might find the asia-summit-list to be a useful resource for
 general Asian GNOME topics:

 http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/asia-summit-list

 Brian


  I`m representative form Open Source Developer Club Malaysia
> (OSDCMY). We
> are the local community in Malaysia that promote and market OSS to
> Malaysia people. We now to ready to lead the OSS community in
> Malaysia s
> now we start many project for OSS any link with may OSS community in
> Malaysia like Ubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE, FreeBSD, Joomla, Drupal and
> etc.
>
> But in Malaysia i can see we not have any GNOME community. So think we
> better start one and we can start 1st translation project. OSDC.My
> already manage the biggest open source conference almost 2 years
> already
> we call it Malaysia Open Source Conference (MOSC  >).
> We now are prepare to do our 3rd MOSC2011 for this years. Yeah need a
> lot of work to do now. But at least we can make people interest about
> OSS and perhaps we can be one of the contributor to the OSS community
> around the world. If we not start now others will not start. I`m also
> involve other OSS ambassador like Fedora, openSUSE & PCBSD and OWASP.
> Hope GNOME ca help us how to start GNOME Malaysia. Thanks
>

Re: How to open Gnome Malaysia Usergroup

2011-01-20 Thread Claude Paroz 
Le mercredi 19 janvier 2011 à 20:28 +0800, Mohd Fazli Azran a écrit :
> Dear sir,
> 
> 
> I`m representative form Open Source Developer Club Malaysia (OSDCMY).
> We are the local community in Malaysia that promote and market OSS to
> Malaysia people. We now to ready to lead the OSS community in Malaysia
> s now we start many project for OSS any link with may OSS community in
> Malaysia like Ubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE, FreeBSD, Joomla, Drupal and
> etc.
> 
> 
> But in Malaysia i can see we not have any GNOME community. So think we
> better start one and we can start 1st translation project.

Hi,

For your information, there is a Malay translation team already:
http://l10n.gnome.org/teams/ms

Claude

>  OSDC.My already manage the biggest open source conference almost 2
> years already we call it Malaysia Open Source Conference (MOSC). We
> now are prepare to do our 3rd MOSC2011 for this years. Yeah need a lot
> of work to do now. But at least we can make people interest about OSS
> and perhaps we can be one of the contributor to the OSS community
> around the world. If we not start now others will not start. I`m also
> involve other OSS ambassador like Fedora, openSUSE & PCBSD and OWASP.
> Hope GNOME ca help us how to start GNOME Malaysia. Thanks
> 
> Regards, 
> Mohd Fazli Azran
> Secretariat OSDCMY
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