Re: Question for candidates

2014-05-25 Thread Richard Stallman
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Nobody ever got a "command" to start a new GNU package, because GNU
package developers are volunteers.  When people are interested in
starting a GNU package, they talk with me about it and we decide
jointly that it is one.  In the 1990s that was a very informal
process.  That's how GNOME was started, except that I think I
discussed the need with Miguel before he started it.

GNOME was conceived as a GNU package since the beginning, which is why
it has the name GNOME (GNU Network Object Model Environment, initially).

The reason why the GNU Project and the FSF help GNOME development, and
encourage people to use GNOME both as end users and as application
developers, is that helping GNOME is helping GNU.

Miguel made important contributions to free software.  GNOME was not
his first.  Then he changed and started neglecting freedom, and
finally denigrating it.  Neither one cancels the other.  But recall
how his name came into this discussion: citing what he said in a
memoir that he wrote after rejecting the principles of free software.

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Re: question for candidates

2014-05-25 Thread David King

Hi Andy

On 2014-05-20 11:56, Andy Tai  wrote:

GNOME's core toolkit, gtk+, is used by numerous projects.  Currently gtk+
development seems to be driven mainly by the GNOME desktop.  However, gtk+
also play critical roles in other free software projects, like MATE, XFCE,
and the Cinnamon desktop, and large applications like GIMP, Inkscape, etc.

What are your views on the participation of the people of these projects,
as stake holders in the direction of gtk+, in the GNOME Foundation?


Anyone who contributes to GNOME should feel welcome to become a GNOME 
Foundation member. However, I do not think that just using a GNOME 
technology, such as GTK+, is enough to satisfy the requirements for 
becoming a member of the Foundation. If someone has a strong track 
record of contributions to GTK+, that would seems to be good 
justification for joining the Foundation.


The best way that the Foundation currently has for the "stakeholder" 
style of involvement is probably the advisory board:


https://wiki.gnome.org/AdvisoryBoard

The advisory board is a way for companies and organisations to give 
feedback to the Foundation board, and this seems like the ideal venue 
for stakeholders in GNOME technologies.



Should
the GNOME Foundation encourage (reach out to) these people to get them
involved in the GNOME Foundation so they also have a say and even
contribute to gtk+ so gtk+ can continue to serve their needs well,
important for the continuing successes of gtk+ in the free software world?


As the Foundation is not involved with the day-to-day running of the 
GTK+ project, it is probably not helpful to join the Foundation if the 
purpose is solely to influence the direction of GTK+.


I am not a GTK+ developer, but I have found the GTK+ developers to be 
responsive at reviewing patches which I have submitted. I think that the 
best way to influence the direction of the GTK+ project is to 
contribute, which could take the form of bug reports, code, design work 
or something else.


A good way for the Foundation to support GTK+ development is to 
financially support hackfests, such as the recent Developer Experience 
hackfest, held in Berlin, where there was progress on several GTK+ 
topics. While the Foundation rarely financially supports attendance at 
hackfests for those who are not members, a strong track record of 
contributions makes it easier to justify occasional exceptions.


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