Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Ben Konrath b...@bagu.org wrote: The feedback I received was a similar story; the potential funders seemed only interested in an applications that would serve their users who primarily use Windows. Obviously this will be an issue when searching for funding for GNOME a11y projects - especially new projects that don't have an established group of users like Caribou. What about showing them the benefits of GNOME/Free software? We should try to get some talking points about what we can offer like: - It's Free software - It cost no money - We have better i18n - We are have X feature that is lacking in propietary solutions - We are doing Y better ... Salu2 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Speaker Guidelines
Hi, As a GUADEC Speaker this year I went through the Guidelines and I'm a little bit worried about this, because I reviewed my talk at last GUADEC (GNOME 1,2,3, with the amazing Xan) and I think it failed to comply all of those guidelines. At the end, the document says: Please keep in mind that the GNOME Foundation is not the right forum to debate whether someone should feel offended or not so I not going to debate it, but I would like to stand that with every single sentence I can say there are potential people all over the world that can feel offended, so I just cannot control or avoid it. I also don't think the ending is appropriate: These guidelines do not constitute censorship since you have many other forums and opportunities to say whatever you wish.. That is a pretty evil justification and probably Governments in Iran, Saudi Arabia or North Korean can use it. Salu2 If all printers were determined not to print anything till they were sure it would offend nobody, there would be very little printed. Benjamin Franklin (1730) On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: The result is a document listing a set of guidelines to help speakers avoid offending the audience, in order to have the talks enjoyed by as many people as possible: http://live.gnome.org/CodeOfConduct/SpeakerGuidelines We would like to encourage everybody who will deliver at a talk at a GNOME event, or who will represent GNOME with a GNOME talk at other events, to go read those guidelines! Many thanks to Matthew Garrett for his initial work on this, and to the community for the feedback sent after we've published a draft of this document. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Speaker Guidelines
Hi, On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: The company defined what was appropriate within their forums. GNOME can decide what's appropriate to discuss in GNOME forums whether it's conferences or mailing lists. Here with GNOME do you mean GNOME community or the GNOME Foundation? Topics that are off topic for GNOME (say politics not related to free software) can be discussed in other forums. I don't think that's censorship. Do you mean that the acceptance of the Speaker Guidelines for GNOME conferences is an off-topic issue for GNOME forums? Salu2 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Speaker Guidelines
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: Policy is a poor man's substitute for common sense. -- David Woodhouse I think says it all Yeah, I completely agree and Policy ~= Guidelines, so I would feel much comfortable just asking speakers for common sense and a disclaimer like The views expressed on these talks are those of speakers do not necessarily reflect the views of GNOME Foundation. Salu2 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Oracle takeover and GNOME accessibility
Hi, As you all probably know, Oracle recently bought Sun. Sun has been one of the largest contributors to the GNOME project during the last years. Probably is too early to know how this is going to affect GNOME project. However this last week we have seen some relevant events: Oracle laid off two members of the Sun's Accessibility Program Office. If you have been following GNOME a11y development, probably you can agree with me that: - SUN APO contributions have been critical for GNOME success - SUN a11y developers have not only done a great and impressive work, but also have been deeply involved with the community. - Accessibility is a critical component for GNOME 3.0 - The accesibility framework changes for GNOME 3.0 are huge (new at-spi, dbus migration, etc...) and should be properly tested for a successful relase. - Although in the last years we have seen new companies joining the a11y development effort (like for example igalia), the number of people woking in a11y is critically low. So, I would like to ask the board to take this issue very seriously and try to contact SUN/Oracle representatives in the advisory board regarding this issue. Some references: * An Open Letter to Oracle on the Topic Of Accessibility by Joanmarie Diggs: http://blog.grain-of-salt.com/index.php?itemid=394 * Some threads at orca's mailing list: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2010-February/msg00055.html http://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2010-February/msg00092.html http://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2010-February/msg00078.html http://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2010-February/msg00112.html Thanks! Salu2 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
Well, I would love a GUADEC in Morocco, however, I doubt that we had the necessary local group there for organizing it. :( Salu2 On 3/23/07, Christian F.K. Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we should in general encourage people who think they are located in a place that make it feasible for people in west Europe and the US to go there to apply to host GUADEC. Even if they are not in Europe per se. For instance I it struck me that Morocco could be a good alternative when I was there, as its cheap in terms of food and lodging, yet reasonably well connected with cheap flights (EasyJet flies to Marrakesh from both London and Madrid for example). I am sure places like Egypt, Israel, non-European parts of Turkey and Russia have similar setups. Of course even within 'Europe' we have kept things quite far to the west so far so there is for sure opportunities for a spread of applicants even with that constraint in place. Christian On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 09:55 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anne Østergaard wrote: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008 GUADEC is the yearly GNOME Users and Developers European Conference. Does that automatically exclude those outside EU from sending proposals ? :Sankarshan - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGAgUgXQZpNTcrCzMRAiSpAJ9xk0fSv+cjrYjXMdNAQUMe7X+DVgCggLwA u1BMR2UYThx1RnYeSh7V6Bs= =hCGB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-announce mailing list foundation-announce@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-announce ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: debug machine (was Re: Minutes of the Board meeting, 2006/Oct/25)
It was in some way expained in the mail I linked, however, the big explanation is on the notes we took during the bof at Boston: http://live.gnome.org/ImprovingDebugging Salu2 On 12/13/06, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Fernando Herrera wrote: Ey, maybe we could use this machine as a future debug server. What's a debug server? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
debug machine (was Re: Minutes of the Board meeting, 2006/Oct/25)
Ey, maybe we could use this machine as a future debug server. more info about it here: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-November/msg00166.html Salu2 On 12/6/06, Federico Mena Quintero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Intel server: Powered like a server machine. Big upright form factor. Cannot put it in the Red Hat colo because it takes up too much space even with the rackmount adapter. Tried to send it back to Intel when it arrived, to exchange it for a different form factor, but this failed. We need to ask OSL to see if they can host it in their colo. It's not a very good desktop machine; it's really loud. What to use it for? We were using it for backups, but we have a better solution now. We don't really know what to use it for right now. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
