Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of July 31st, 2013
On 08/15/2013 07:40 AM, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: On Wed, 2013-08-14 at 22:06 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: * The travel committee is currently verifying the travel requests * The event's local team should take over this role * The travel committee needs more resources * Three potential volunteers * Streamline the process * '''ACTION''': Joanie, Kat, Tobi, Rosanna, Karen will hold a work group at GUADEC about the travel committee process Any news about the outcome of this work group? We drafted out the contents of the form and the proposed new procedure for small events (hackfests and other things that are NOT GnomeAsia or GUADEC). It needs cleaning up and formalization. We'll also need a web-based form created. I myself am still traveling this week, but will be home next week and resuming a more normal routine and workflow. I am planning to tackle the cleaning up and formalization. Someone else will tackle turning it into something which can be filled out and submitted (by the event organizer(s); not the individual travelers). Once it's not just a bunch of notes we will present it to the Foundation for consideration and (hopefully) adoption. On a related note, one of the things we discussed and agreed upon at our face-to-face meeting in Brno is that on the off weeks (when we don't have a Board meeting), we'll allocate that same time period to get things like this done. Thus hopefully things will happen in a more timely fashion. I wish I could take credit for this idea, but it was not mine. Sadly I cannot recall whose idea it was (I *think* it was Tobi's). Take care. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Questions for candidates
On 05/25/2013 05:21 PM, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: Hello, I also thanks people running for the board. I would like to know: In order to be in the board, what are you going to do *less*? In other words, what would the trade-off be for you? Are you going to spend less time in other GNOME activities (which ones?), family, work, etc.? If you are already in the board, what have you done less? In my case, there wasn't really a trade-off. When I joined Igalia in late 2011, things I had been doing evenings and weekends (i.e. GNOME Accessibility) became part of my DayJob. That freed up time for me which I could allocate to serving on our Board. Take care. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Extending the call for candidates (was Re: Withdrawal of board of idrectors candidacy)
On 05/21/2013 10:46 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: On Tue, May 21, 2013 1:14 pm, Richard Stallman wrote: The number of candidates so far is pretty small -- I saw only 8 -- so we will not have much choice in our voting. On general principles, and not as criticism of the people who have already stepped into the race, I think it would be good for more people to run. I encourage you, and everyone who has already run, to stay in the race. I am pleased to say that the candidates we already have are *all* exceptionally strong. I feel that I should point out that there are one or two people who would probably join the race as well if we extended the deadline. As I said, though, the current candidates are pretty awesome and they all got their announcements in on time :) True, but the announcement period this time was shorter. In 2012, the announcement went out 17 April with a deadline of 20 May. [1] This time, the announcement went out 6 May with a deadline of 19 May. [2] Given Richard's observation that we have a lack of choice combined with the shorter announcement period, I wonder if it would be worth extending the call for candidates for, say, another week. Take care. --joanie [1] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2012-April/msg00015.html [2] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2013-May/msg00032.html ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Boston Summit 2013?
On 04/30/2013 01:11 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Piñeiro apinhe...@igalia.com wrote: On 04/30/2013 06:22 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Although working for the venue is appreciated, imho, is irrelevant. If that extra hop means that suddenly every one (or almost every one) interested on assist the summit would need to ask for help (or extra-help) to the travel committee in order to assist, it doesn't matter if we got a venue for free. It would be still really more expensive, and more trip-exhausting. Hi Alejandro, If most people feel this way then I have no problem letting this go. Hopefully, we can find someone to do this in Boston or Montreal. Were it up to me, that would be my recommendation. It's not that we don't like Portland. Hell, if Portlandia is any indication, Portland might be the best city EVER. :) Even the inconvenience of people having to take an extra and/or longer flight, while not great, is not a show-stopper. To me the show-stopper is unbudgeted travel expenses with less than a year's notice. It is my understanding that quite a few usual Boston Summit attendees are within reasonable driving distance of Boston. And Montreal, while a longer drive, is not undoable for this crowd. But at least in the case of my company, the 2013 travel budget was set at the end of 2012. And at the end of 2012, we had no indication that I would have to fly cross-country from Southern New Hampshire to Boston. ;) ;) Whether or not we want to rotate Boston Summit around the country is something for the Foundation membership to decide. If they decide that, great. But let's then ensure we have the location selected in time for companies and the Foundation to include it in their travel budgets. Take care. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Some news from GIMPNET (was A few observations about GIMPNET)
On 01/31/2013 09:42 AM, Alexandre Franke wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Andrea Veri a...@gnome.org wrote: Pretty much (all?) the bots were used for auto-opping or updating channel's topics AFAIK, thus my statement to safely remove all the bots with these specific functions. I'll work on deploying a KGB bot anytime soon as well for git commits notifications on IRC. Some of us also use Supybot for bugzilla related services (bug change announcements, getting a description of a bug by giving its bug number). Yup, the Accessibility Team does that. We also have the Supybot meetbot plugin we find extremely helpful. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: A few observations about GIMPNET
On 10/15/2012 06:53 AM, Andrea Veri wrote: [...] I explained the benefits in my original mail but here they are again: - services, that means having the ownership of your nick. No one will be able to spoof your identity. (plus host cloaking with handy (for example) /gnome/marketing/foo that may help newcomers finding the right person to talk when the first join a certain channel.) - privacy, Freenode has SSL enabled so all conversations are crypted and don't happen in plain text. - no need to keep a bot to auto OP you every time you accidentally lose connection. These would be nice to have. But I wonder if the best way to address it is not to up and leave GimpNet, but instead to get those features added to GimpNet. In the past I've joined the #opers channel multiple times asking why there was no intention to improve the GIMPNET network but I alwais received no answer and as of today I still don't know the real reason behind that decision. Who exactly owns GimpNet and if asking on #opers doesn't get us the answers we seek, how else can we get them? Take care. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: A few observations about GIMPNET
Who exactly owns GimpNet and if asking on #opers doesn't get us the answers we seek, how else can we get them? Very nice question Joanmarie, who takes decisions on behalf of the GIMPNET network? if GIMPNET is aliased the GNOME IRC network why they don't listen to contributor's ideas and suggestions? why they don't have a single place where people can raise concerns? also how do you expect a newcomer to understand that GIMPNET is the GNOME network when the MOTD is still set to be bork bork...don't irc as root in many GIMPNET's servers? or when the topic of a channel isn't set at all or disappears because there are no services? There are several things to improve and as far as I see it now the GIMPNET networks looks like being unmaintained. Thanks Joanmarie for pointing this out. You're welcome. But you answered my non-rhetorical question with questions -- and rhetorical ones at that. ;) So allow me to try again: Would it be possible for you or another member of the sysadmin team to: * determine who owns this network * verify if it is really unmaintained * if it really is unmaintained, offer to become a maintainer * improve it with the specified features ? Take care. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Call for GUADEC 2013 proposals - Deadline extended
Hello Foundation Members. During the last week of June we announced the call for GUADEC 2013 proposals [1]. We have received feedback from the community that more time is needed. Therefore, in order to ensure we have a great GUADEC 2013, we are extending the deadline for completed proposals. Because it has been the Board's experience that face-to-face meetings are a valuable part of the proposal evaluation process, we would strongly encourage all parties who plan to submit a proposal to meet with the Board at GUADEC to present their tentative plans. However, if meeting face-to-face is not possible, we will work with you to arrange an alternative meeting. The new deadlines are as follows: * July 20th: Declaration of intent to propose hosting GUADEC 2013 sent to board-l...@gnome.org. In this declaration, please include a statement of your availability to meet with the Board during GUADEC 2012. * September 22nd: Formal, complete proposals for hosting GUADEC 2013 sent to board-l...@gnome.org. Should you have any questions or concerns, please let us know either on foundation-list@gnome.org or board-l...@gnome.org. --joanie, on behalf of the Foundation Board [1] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2012- June/msg00035.html ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Facilitating the Integration of Free Software into Academic Courses (was Re: Questions for the board election candidates)
I hope no one minds the new subject. But I started out innocently enough answering Richard's question. But at the end had an essay plus a proposal. I hate when I do that, but what's done is done, so I wanted to separate it out from the Board Candidacy discussion. On 05/22/2012 10:56 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: [...] GNOME's usefulness as a software package is independent of how we talk about it. However, the use of GNOME provides an opportunity to educate the users about this issue, in philosophical and political terms -- to teach them the idealism of the free software movement. Exactly. Hence my statement in my candidacy announcement [1]: ... I would like to see GNOME working actively with colleges and universities to facilitate the integration of Free Software development and philosophies into their courses. We (GNOME Accessibility Team) have already done some work with Dr. Heidi Ellis at Western New England University. She has been introducing her students to Free Software through HFOSS (the H standing for Humanitarian). This work has included coordinating with her, guest lecturing in her course, finding GNOME projects towards which her students can contribute, answering questions as needed, and so on. What we (GNOME Accessibility, Heidi, and Heidi's students) have learned in the process is that the idea is sound. We just need to iron out the wrinkles. We can build upon our experiences, find more professors, and get more GNOME teams involved in supporting this effort. My reasons for why GNOME should (IMHO) get behind this approach very much includes the need and desire to build support in the community for free software and the freedom it provides. But it is by no means limited to that. Far from it, in fact. Having been an educator for 15 years, not to mention a graduate student for two degrees prior, it's beyond obvious to me that there is no better teaching/learning tool than real-world experience. I see GNOME being a great way for college and university students to get this experience. And I believe it benefits all parties involved: * Students: - Learn about Free Software, not just what it is, but WHY it is. - Gain re-world work experience. And not just in terms of coding. Sure, the Computer Science students would. But why stop there? We could work with Technical Writing students, Art students, Marketing students, HCI students, Foreign Language students. Maybe even Law students and Philosophy students; Sociology students if we're clever. * Professors and Academic Institutions: - Give their students skills they'll need upon graduation. - Be seen as cool and innovative. * Companies Contributing to GNOME: - More, and more-qualified, applicants from which to choose. - The opportunity to get to know, and get to be known by, future potential employees. * GNOME: - More users (for those who aren't already users). - More contributors. - More people who know about Free Software and what we, as a Foundation, stand for. This, at least in my mind, makes a heck of a lot of sense. And as a Free Software community, we're already quite used to and very well-equipped to support people showing up and saying Hi, I want to help. So we just need to get the professors on board, how hard could that be? Heh. I had a couple of weeks off before I joined Igalia and I used some of that time to visit a few computer science professors. Turns out getting them on board may be a tad harder than I imagined. * They are not familiar with -- and thus not comfortable teaching -- all the tools we use. * They want certainty in terms of assignments and projects. * They want predictability with respect to a schedule. * They want a curriculum they can follow. * They do not want to be pioneers. BUT, they seem to truly dig the idea other than that. And, yes, that sounds like snark; I don't mean it that way. They really were excited and enthusiastic about the idea. But then they started thinking it through in terms of their actual courses and the doubts came pouring in. So my more specific response to this question: Thus, my question: how does each candidate propose to make use of GNOME and its communication to build support in the user community for free software and the freedom it provides? is the following proposal: = GNOME Outreach Program for Professors = This would be an ongoing, largely self-sustaining program in which we: * Introduce professors to GNOME and Free Software. * Show them what we have to offer (the practical benefits listed above) * Pair them with a GNOME mentor who would help them: - become familiar with the tools we use; the modules we have; our culture, both GNOME-wide and team-specific; and relevant community members - find a suitable project - provide support (iron out wrinkles, answer questions, etc.) Suitable project types: * Existing
Re: Questions for the board election candidates
Hi Robert. On 05/22/2012 03:58 AM, Robert Nordan wrote: 1) Open Source or Free Software? Open Source AND Free Software. :) With respect to my own pragmatic idealism: * I value freedom and tend to say Free Software. BUT I have no philosophical problems with those who say or prefer Open Source. None whatsoever. * If you think I'm turning off my Android's GPS because getting lost is preferable to using a non-free driver, think again. ;) BUT I did donate money (the cost of a new unlocked QWERTY phone) to the Replicant Project because I would much prefer to not get lost AND to not use non-free software. As soon there is a fully free Android with GPS and a QWERTY keyboard I will buy it. I hope that they accomplish this soon. * I find it disturbing and unfortunate that with the very many things these two groups have in common, the focus seems to always come back to the few differences which exist. And I wonder if that is in the best interest of either group. I myself do not think it is. Thus as a pragmatist I will do everything I can to advance Free, Libre, Open Source software. I will not engage in debates about Open Source versus Free Software, however, because I feel doing so is to the detriment of our shared goal of eliminating proprietary software. As an idealist, I'm fully convinced we can achieve our shared goal -- if and only if we work together. 2) Overhaul of GNOME's git infrastructure I personally believe that the way the GNOME git system is set up is a bit antiquated and doesn't use git to its full potential. I personally do not have serious problems with GNOME's git system or associated infrastructure, though admittedly I am a tad antiquated myself. ;) Having said that, I also do not have serious objections to an overhaul -- with one possible exception: Any time my ears hear the word overhaul, my brain receives potentially significant disruption. GNOME 3 is still sufficiently young that I think all of us -- designers, developers, document writers, marketers, translators, ... -- need to keep our focus on it and not lose momentum. Thus if it were up to the Board to decide upon this issue, my supporting it would be based primarily on two things: overall community support of it and how smooth/seamless the transition would be. If everyone wants it and it can JustHappen(tm) without us skipping a beat, it's got my vote. Otherwise, let's wait a couple of cycles. 3) GNOME and Ubuntu 4) Stance on GNOME forks (I hope you don't mind my combining your last two questions, but from my perspective they're just different flavors of the same general issue.) From a *purely philosophical* standpoint, I don't think these schisms or forks are necessarily a bad thing. What's been happening lately is a demonstration of the beauties and strengths of FLOSS: If you can do it better, if you can meet an unmet need, if you disagree with the direction a project is taking, then get the code and do it the way you think it should be done. Form a community around your effort. Learn, create, and share. If you're right and you indeed did it better, or met an unmet need, or took a direction that needed to be taken, what you created makes the world a better place. And even if you weren't right, you gained knowledge and experience and skills in the process which you can apply to other FLOSS software projects. And that, too, makes the world a better place. Being more practical and less pollyannaish: If you consider everything we do in GNOME, it's a huge, huge amount of work. I think the odds of any fork or schism becoming truly independent/separate are pretty slim. So they still need GNOME. And I would argue that we need them (see huge, huge amount of work above). As for how to handle it Depends what it is. ;) With respect to Canonical/Ubuntu: I'd love to have some discussion with them around where they are investing (losing?) time with respect to GNOME modules. Example: At one point, whilst trying to troubleshoot a couple of downstream-only Orca bugs, I learned that their Gtk+ was heavily patched; their... I *think* it was pygobject... was essentially version Y, but claimed to be version X because they patched it into almost-Yness rather than just pulling our version Y; they had gnome-foo version 3.2.x, but gnome-bar version 3.0.x, but would ship gnome-baz version 3.4. Why are they doing this?? And that is not a rhetorical question; I genuinely would like to know. But more importantly, if there are things we can be doing upstream to prevent or reduce this extreme downstream smorgasbording, I think we should do so: 1. Extreme smorgasbording can lead to breakage. Breakage makes FLOSS software look less desirable. If the user knows that the module in question is a GNOME module, that makes GNOME look less desirable. 2. Extreme smorgasbording surely takes time. Wouldn't it be easier to just pull from upstream? Hopefully they would agree that it would
Re: Boston Summit?
On 04/27/2012 12:25 PM, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: I was thinking, size permitting, we may even be able to do at Mozilla offices? What were you thinking about the date? Is Columbus Day weekend ideal, inconvenient, or irrelevant? --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Membership's Renewals Jan 2012
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 15:47 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: Hi, as per point 1.3 of [1], here it comes a list of members in need of a renew in case they didn't receive their individual e-mail: [15 people who are not me] Andrea, I pretty sure I'm coming up for needing a renewal soon. Where can I find my membership date? Thanks in advance! Take care. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
A11y Team NOT attending Montreal Summit
Hi Board and Foundation. As I'm sure you are aware, presently there are 0 confirmed, and a much-smaller-than-usual list of tentative attendees for the upcoming Summit. [1] Furthermore, after much deliberation along with consultation with other teams with whom we would like to meet in Montreal, the only thing anyone seems to know for certain is that no one knows for certain who is going to Montreal. Given that the majority of our team is in Europe, travel is expensive, and the Summit nearly here, we felt that we needed to reach a decision. The conclusions from today's team meeting: 1. We will NOT be attending the Montreal Summit. 2. If for some reason a representative from our team is deemed necessary, I shall drive up from New Hampshire. 3. We should share our decision here because others have been asking us for our plans. Take care. --joanie, on behalf of the A11y team [1] https://live.gnome.org/Montreal2011/Participants ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
The Boston (or Boston) Summit?
Hey all. The other day I heard an interesting rumor, which I've since been able to confirm [1]: There's a small chance that the Boston Summit might be the Montreal Summit. Montreal is all kinds of charming awesomeness, and if that is where the Summit is going to be this year, that's great. But it does of course mean that some people who didn't have to travel will now have to, and that some meetings of convenience with non-GNOME local folks might need to be rescheduled. Thus, for the purpose of managing logistics, I would find it extremely helpful to know where the Summit will be this year and if it will be held on the traditional date (i.e. only one month from now). With apologies to all for being a noodge (and especially to Emmanuele for my impatience after he suggested we might know something today.) Thanks in advance! --joanie [1] https://live.gnome.org/Boston2011 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Foundation Membership - Accepted
Mario!! :-) Back in April-May 2010, I joined the Igalia WebKit team to work on improving the accessibility support in WebKitGTK+, so WebKit based apps were able to integrate better with the ORCA screen reader and, even though there's still a long way to go, I feel proud to see that it seems the original situation actually improved after these months of work. It's improved quite a bit! Thanks for all your work and welcome to the Foundation. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010
Hi All. Based on the Orca (or even a more general a11y) roadmap, it may be possible to get some funding from companies or associations interested in seeing Orca get better (although a lot of the associations seem to be focussing more on NVDA because it works on Windows). Where is the Orca roadmap? http://live.gnome.org/Orca/Roadmap The (still in progress) Accessibility Roadmap (along with links to the roadmaps to individual projects) can be found here: http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/Roadmap Are any of the features being requested by specific identifiable groups? The Gecko and Performance work with Mozilla. That is related to the $10k grant. I don't know if something similar could be done with the other items. Thanks for your ideas and support/help! --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010
CCing the list as you replied to the copy of my message which never made it to the list because I sent it via the wrong address. :-/ Sorry about that. On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 21:01 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Hi Joanmarie, What I'm getting at is, if there were features which were particularly useful to, say, people using head-trackers, then we might be able to get funding from spina bifida support organisations, for example. If there are things in the a11y roadmap that we could loosely group as useful for people with handicap X that would give us an idea of the kinds of organisations that might fund that work. Aha, well, yes. For starters: * Speech recognition would be useful for at least some people with print learning disabilities as well as for certain people with physical disabilities. * Caribou, especially were its functionality further expanded, would be useful for people with physical disabilities. Could we begin there? And if so, who is we and how do we begin? :-) Thanks Dave. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 22:58 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,
Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
Aha, well, yes. For starters:
* Speech recognition would be useful for at least some people with print
learning disabilities as well as for certain people with physical
disabilities.
* Caribou, especially were its functionality further expanded, would be
useful for people with physical disabilities.
Could we begin there? And if so, who is we and how do we begin? :-)
OK - Caribou is the gok replacement, right?
Indeed.
I guess we is us - the GNOME Foundation. I'm sure the board will help,
I'll help, I'm certain the a11y team will help... we'll figure this out.
Awesome! Thank you.
I guess begin begins with build a list of organisations we could
contact for grants - organisations should include non-profits,
foundations, universities, and government agencies. We could use a wiki
page for that, or Etherpad, or Google Docs, perhaps SugarCRM? Open to
discussion.
Then, for each one, we try to get a good entry point.
Then, we contact them, with a general informal first approach - do
you know GNOME? We're pretty cool. We do cool a11y stuff. and if they
have heard of us, and are maybe using us a little, we can then pitch the
roadmap for grants.
For sure, it's a long shot approach, and we'll probably only ever get
10% response to initial queries, and less than 10% of those interested
in funding us
But it sounds like a good start and a sound one. And anything more than
0% will help out the development efforts of the A11y team.
(and there, let me turn that question around to you -
who's us?
Good question. I'll defer to Piñeiro (on holiday today).
But my opinion is that it would depend on the size of the sums we're
talking about. For now, I'm going to assume bounties or small grants
sufficiently large to convince qualified individuals or entities that
taking on the associated task is worth their while. In which case us
would either be the Foundation or the GNOME A11y team. And in either
case, the {Foundation, A11y Team} would work together with the {A11y
Team, Foundation} to ensure that such a qualified individual or entity
is sought and tasked with the job.
--joanie
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Opportunity to Contribute to GNOME Accessibility: Orca Performance Improvements
Hi all. As many of you are aware, GNOME recently received $15,000 for accessibility work. [1] I have just posted [2] the description of the first of the two projects: Orca Performance Improvements. In addition, I have created a new Opportunities page for GNOME A11y. [3] It's admittedly a bit on the sparse side at the moment, but with luck (and work and community involvement) that will change. :-) Take care. --joanie [1] http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2010-10-accessibility-grant.html [2] http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/Opportunities/OrcaPerformance [3] http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/Opportunities ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Next Foundation IRC list is on November 3rd!
On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 09:42 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: Hi GNOME folks, Thanks for participating in the GNOME Foundation meeting today. Oops. :-( We had a lot of topics to discuss and did not get to them even though we went over 30 minutes! So by common agreement, we are having our next meeting next week! When: Wednesday, November 3rd, from 14:00 to 15:30 UTC Where: irc.gnome.org, #foundation I will try better to attend that one. enters it in calendar Speaking of which Is there (or are there any plans to create) a subscribe-able calendar for these meetings? As I'm sure y'all are aware, the Release Team does this for the GNOME schedule, and I find it infinitely helpful: Thanks to google calendar, I get email reminders, reminders on my phone, and pop-up reminders in my browser. And as a result, I don't believe I've ever forgotten about or missed an RT deadline. :-) Thanks. Take care. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Speaker Guidelines
Hey all. I agree with this: I also don't think the ending is appropriate: These guidelines do not constitute censorship since you have many other forums and opportunities to say whatever you wish. As a matter of fact, personally I am not jazzed by the entire ending: Please keep in mind that the GNOME Foundation is not the right forum to debate whether someone should feel offended or not; you should simply avoid offending people even if you do not share their views. These guidelines do not constitute censorship since you have many other forums and opportunities to say whatever you wish. It is neither positive nor welcoming to would-be speakers -- and thus contrasts rather starkly with bullet point 1 under Guidelines. It also feels like an attempt to preempt a response/reaction, which is perfectly understandable given the nature of the document. However, it is the very nature of the people in question to ignore such language. Were it me, I'd nix that paragraph. If the Board feels it must remain, I'd suggest that someone come up with something more positive and welcoming. Take care. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Speaker Guidelines
Hey Stormy. Perhaps we could replace the above text with something like this: If someone in your talk is offended, please try to avoid a conversation about whether or not they should be offended. Remember our community is very diverse and while we all share a common mission to provide a free GNOME desktop to the world, we do not always share religions, politics and other views. Focus on the subject of your talk and stick to the issues being discussed without making them personal. As the speaker, you may have to remind the audience of this. While it's hard, do your best to do it in a neutral, non argumentative way. Suggest that topics not relevant to GNOME (raised by you or others in the audience) be moved to a more appropriate non-GNOME forum. If you need help, please contact the GNOME board or GNOME Foundation member. But don't worry! These problems do not happen very often - we are just trying to help you out if they do. Most audiences are very friendly and welcoming of topics about GNOME. Please go out and speak about GNOME and enjoy! +1 Thank you. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Status update? (was Re: Starting the process for this year's Boston Summit)
Hi John. A number of us from the a11y community will be attending the AEGIS Conference in Spain. We're now in the (very early) planning stages of an associated hackfest [1] and are trying to decide if it should extend through 9 October. At least for me, the answer depends on what the plans are for the Boston Summit this year. Therefore, at the risk of being a noodge, would you happen to have any updates? Thanks in advance! Take care. --joanie [1] http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/HackfestAEGIS2010 On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 10:25 -0400, John Palmieri wrote: Hello all, I'm going to be starting the process for setting up the Boston Summit. That basically means getting the space at MIT and then a budget from the board. Last year we saw an issue with the timing of other GNOME related conferences. This year we have a choice of two dates, Columbus day weekend, October 9th-11th or piggyback the weekend after the Linux Plumbers conference, November 6th-8th. I'm leaning towards keeping Columbus day weekend because it is easier to get rooms, and it reduces confusion by having it at the same time every year. The reasons for piggybacking the Plumbers conference is that a number of our fellow GNOMies will already be in Boston and we might get a few stragglers from other parts of the Linux stack to stop by and offer their perspective. I want to get the foundation members' opinion on this. Ultimately it will be up to the board to make a final decision but I plan to have a concrete date by the middle of June if not sooner. I hope you are all getting excited to reflect on the work done in the past year and plan the future of the GNOME platform. I hope to see as many of you as possible at GUADEC and the Boston Summit this year! -- John (J5) Palmieri Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Starting the process for this year's Boston Summit
Hi John. This year we have a choice of two dates, Columbus day weekend, October 9th-11th or piggyback the weekend after the Linux Plumbers conference, November 6th-8th. Put me down in the November column. I'm leaning towards keeping Columbus day weekend because it is easier to get rooms, and it reduces confusion by having it at the same time every year. Agreed. The reasons for piggybacking the Plumbers conference is that a number of our fellow GNOMies will already be in Boston and we might get a few stragglers from other parts of the Linux stack to stop by and offer their perspective. That would be awesome. Another reason is that at least some GNOMies will be in Spain for AEGIS and coming back on the 9th. Or in the case of those in Europe, coming here on the 9th. Either way, this literally back-to-back pair of events is going to be harsh for those of us wanting to attend both. Take care. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Stormy's Update: Week of April 12, 2010
Hi Stormy. On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 11:44 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: * Ran the Desktop track on Friday morning. Many, many thanks to Dave Neary and Zonker Brockmeier for helping put it together. We had some good sessions and great discussions about web applications and the desktop. (Talks about Snowy, KDE web apps and Mozilla Weave.) We wanted a controversial panel and we got one. I think the whole room shouted through the whole thing but I think I kept it enough under control that we got a few questions answered. It was exciting if not 100% productive. Curiosity successfully piqued. :-) Is there a video of this session? --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
New member introduction
The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee is proud to present the new members: - Bradley M. Kuhn - Holger Berndt - Jim Evins - Joanmarie Diggs - Juan Jose Marin Martinez Hi! I'm the second-to-last one. :-) My DayJob is as an assistive technology specialist with the Carroll Center for the Blind. Nights, evenings, and weekends for the past almost four years, I've been one of the developers of the Orca screen reader. I've also been dabbling in WebKitGtk accessibility lately. :-) I'm thrilled to be a Foundation member, and really appreciate the welcome messages I've received from those of you I already know. I look forward to getting to know the rest of you. Take care. --joanie ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
