Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008 GUADEC is the yearly GNOME Users and Developers European Conference. Dear GNOME friends For those of you who would like to host the next GUADEC in 2008 you are hereby invited to write a formal invitation to the board of The GNOME Foundation. The invitation should be send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Anne Østergaard at the latest on May 15th 2007. As the conference is getting bigger and hopefully better and more important every year there is no reason not to tell you that it takes a lot of persons actively involved and committed in the actual planning and a lot of time and spent carrying out the practical work. It is also rewarding and very much fun and you learn a lot in the process. I usually say that when you can take care of a baby and handle a big conference you are pretty much prepared for anything. These things are real and can not be handed virtually. Some practical advice: There are a couple of things that you must take into account when writing your invitation: You must be a group of at least ten persons behind the invitation to take on responsibility. These ten persons each need a lot of helpers.- For this purpose you can involve everybody - they do not all have to be nerds- other skills can often be of great advantage to the team. The conference must take place in the same physical place/ building. You must be many persons very near and in the place/city where the conference is taking place. It is an advantage if there is a strong support from the community: the region, the city, university, huge companies, important organizations and/ or among a very large group of local citizens. The conference will need facilities from Saturday to Thursday. It will be nice to have the facilities from Saturday to Saturday. (The weekend normally used for establishing things and getting rid of jet-lack.- Some activities which involve moving in the sun and fresh air could be helpful here.) The technical infrastructure is crucial to the conference. The hacker room and the conference rooms needs a lot of bandwidth. This is also the case for streaming. One large conference hall for 500 persons. Projectors, beamers and at least 3-4 large conference rooms and many smaller rooms are needed and possibly an exhibition area and/ or hall. A hacker room with pc' s available, and open most of the day and evening is very much appreciated. You will need a lot of sponsors and good press contacts. You must have solutions for housing: Hotels, youth hostels, the living for free program etc. Catering, the "Beer Party" and cultural activities for a flexible number of persons must be possible as well as affordable lunch meals for all. Assisting in conference planning calls or meetings and taking notes for a long period of time, taking care of registration, accounting, the technique in each conference room and of invited speakers and keynotes- which involves some local transportation etc. and a hospitality scheme. Construction and updating of the website, call for papers, logo competition, printing conference material etc. I am sure I forgot something but if you are able to meet most of the things on this list you are already a real GNOME champion. GUADEC has been hold at universities half of the time but other venue solutions are quite possible. It will be an advantage if you start following the planning list for this years GUADEC 2007 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] The following two links lead you to "must read stuff" as well as to very useful information: http://live.gnome.org/GuadecPlanningHowTo?highlight=%28guadec%29%7C% 28howto%29 Check list: http://live.gnome.org/GuadecPlanningHowTo/CheckList?highlight=%28guadec% 29%7C%28howto%29 Countries which have close regional collaboration could help each other make a joint invitation to one venue. We would love to see GUADEC have both national and regional spin off effects for the use of GNOME and Free Software. Especially in places where we have not yet so seen so many footprints:) I know that you will need all the time you can get to prepare an invitation so I hope I have inspired you to get started. The GNOME Board hopes to hear from you May 15th or before. Good luck! GNOME greetings Anne ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
> Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008 I'll footnotes it. - Jeff -- Open CeBIT 2007: Sydney, Australia http://www.opencebit.com.au/ GNOME. Vorsprung durch Einfachheit. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
> > > > Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008 > > I'll footnotes it. Hrm, except it's down right now. Boh! - Jeff -- Open CeBIT 2007: Sydney, Australia http://www.opencebit.com.au/ "Instead you're doing circle jerks with the Care Bears of Censorship." - Siduri on Slashdot ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anne Østergaard wrote: > Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008 > > GUADEC is the yearly GNOME Users and Developers European Conference. Does that automatically exclude those outside EU from sending proposals ? :Sankarshan - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGAgUgXQZpNTcrCzMRAiSpAJ9xk0fSv+cjrYjXMdNAQUMe7X+DVgCggLwA u1BMR2UYThx1RnYeSh7V6Bs= =hCGB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > Anne Østergaard wrote: >>> Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008 >>> >>> GUADEC is the yearly GNOME Users and Developers European Conference. > > Does that automatically exclude those outside EU from sending proposals ? It's been widely agreed last year & this year to avoid GUADEC as an acronym - this has come up several times, and both Villanova and Birmingham have adopted the convention of calling GUADEC "The GNOME Conference". Does that mean that candidates outside the EU would be considered? Not sure - we would need to discuss it. But one thing is for sure - the travel costs for attendees is something which will definitely be taken into account, and in general that will exclude anything outside North America and Europe. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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> But one thing is for sure - the travel costs for attendees is something > which will definitely be taken into account, and in general that will > exclude anything outside North America and Europe. I think excluding NA would be reasonable as well - there are so many OSS conferences on the other side of the pond, please leave something to good old Europe:) Cheers, Sergey ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave Neary wrote: > But one thing is for sure - the travel costs for attendees is something > which will definitely be taken into account, and in general that will > exclude anything outside North America and Europe. Or, in short unless a conference outside NA or EU reimburses travel expenses for attendees/speakers a Regional GNOME Conference or a GUADAC with developer participation from NA or EU is effectively ruled out. Hmm...kind of puts regional organisers between rock(s) and hard place(s) since it will raise the sponsorship and attendance fees in order to ensure crowd attendance and also meet the objective of herding the cats etc etc :Sankarshan - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGAlPtXQZpNTcrCzMRAm14AJ4s2/aX3ckW38TrR6TGO9h//zSQZQCfSpTu 6MR2KNmdAsDDlayBi8cyhAs= =n4SB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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Hi, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: > I think excluding NA would be reasonable as well - there are so many > OSS conferences on the other side of the pond, please leave something > to good old Europe:) To me the best free software conferences around aren't in the US - FOSDEM, aKademy, LSM, GUADEC, OLS, LCA, FOSS.IN, CeBIT, LinuxTag... Perhaps the biggest free software business conferences are in the US (your LinuxWorlds and OSCons of the world), but all the best community conferences happen outside the US. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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> Perhaps the biggest free software business conferences are in the US > (your LinuxWorlds and OSCons of the world), but all the best community > conferences happen outside the US. OK, then let's keep it this way:) Sergey ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
> But one thing is for sure - the travel costs for attendees is something > which will definitely be taken into account, and in general that will > exclude anything outside North America and Europe. That depends upon the time of year and location. The bit of North America which is civilised to visitors (Canada) can be very pricy in summer but very very cheap in winter [guess why]. This is a problem with OLS. Mexico has some claim to be the original "home of Gnome"... Alan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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> Or, in short unless a conference outside NA or EU reimburses travel > expenses for attendees/speakers a Regional GNOME Conference or a GUADAC > with developer participation from NA or EU is effectively ruled out. > Hmm...kind of puts regional organisers between rock(s) and hard place(s) > since it will raise the sponsorship and attendance fees in order to ensure > crowd attendance and also meet the objective of herding the cats etc etc Holding it along side an existing event *really* helps. - Jeff -- Open CeBIT 2007: Sydney, Australia http://www.opencebit.com.au/ Echidnas, or at least the ones I've met, don't have joy. Adults very rarely have joy. Kids have hyperkinetic nuclear joy in abundance. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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> > I'll footnotes it. > > Hrm, except it's down right now. Boh! Darn thunderstorms anyways. Its back up ;) -stro ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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> > > I'll footnotes it. > > > > Hrm, except it's down right now. Boh! > > Darn thunderstorms anyways. > > Its back up ;) Thanks Stro, unsung hero! (Rhymes for great justice!) - Jeff -- Open CeBIT 2007: Sydney, Australia http://www.opencebit.com.au/ "And, most importantly, we now have modules named 'fontilus' and 'themus' -- the two founders of GROME." - Jonathon Blandford ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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Alan Cox wrote: >> But one thing is for sure - the travel costs for attendees is something >> which will definitely be taken into account, and in general that will >> exclude anything outside North America and Europe. > > That depends upon the time of year and location. The bit of North > America which is civilised to visitors (Canada) can be very pricy in > summer but very very cheap in winter [guess why]. This is a problem with > OLS. Alan, Also don't forget that Ottawa (since you mention the case of OLS) by itself is not the best destination as, despite being the Nation's Capital, its airport route is barely direct. Most of people will have to fly through Toronto (YYZ) or Montreal (YUL), and depending in the airline, they might a non negligible cost to add for this last leg to Ottawa (YOW). That said if there is any proposal for Canada (Montreal is IMHO a better choice than Ottawa), count me in :-) Hub ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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> That said if there is any proposal for Canada (Montreal is IMHO a better > choice than Ottawa), count me in :-) Where necessary, and in this case I think it is, we should be very clear about GNOME's geopolitical view of the world: Quebecistan is not in Europe. - Jeff -- Open CeBIT 2007: Sydney, Australia http://www.opencebit.com.au/ "Everyone's a little queer, why can't she be a little straight?" - Weezer, Pink Triangle ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 01:35 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > That said if there is any proposal for Canada (Montreal is IMHO a better > > choice than Ottawa), count me in :-) > > Where necessary, and in this case I think it is, we should be very clear > about GNOME's geopolitical view of the world: Quebecistan is not in Europe. > Who said Quebec is in Europe ? Being one of the biggest regions in North America I'd think it would be hard to miss on the map, North America wasnt on the "excluded" list last I checked, is it ? Anyway, I dont expect to be going to any oversees FOSS related conferences but if there was one in Canada (and I must stress that Ottawa is one of the most boring places I've been to) then as hub says "count me in" :) Cheers, -Tristan ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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> > > That said if there is any proposal for Canada (Montreal is IMHO a better > > > choice than Ottawa), count me in :-) > > > > Where necessary, and in this case I think it is, we should be very clear > > about GNOME's geopolitical view of the world: Quebecistan is not in Europe. > > Who said Quebec is in Europe ? I will not be your dancing monkey! > Being one of the biggest regions in North America I'd think it would be > hard to miss on the map, North America wasnt on the "excluded" list last I > checked, is it ? Where necessary, and in this case I think it is, we should be very clear about GNOME's geopolitical view of the world: North America is not in Europe. - Jeff -- Open CeBIT 2007: Sydney, Australia http://www.opencebit.com.au/ I don't know whose brain child it was, but it was quite an ugly child. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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> "GNOME" cannot have a geopolitical view since "Gnome is people" and we > each, well, erhm, perhaps, think a little differently. Now the "GNOME > foundation" probably has to recognize nation states but don't think for > a second that means that "GNOME" does. cf. "flags". If you are becoming serious here, you are missing the tenor of the discussion. > And if such a thing happened in say Turkey, Lebanon, Mexico, or Cape > Verde, who would seriously object? I don't think so. No one has objected to the numerous GNOME conferences that have popped up all around the world as a result of our wonderful community. But none of them are GUADEC. - Jeff -- Open CeBIT 2007: Sydney, Australia http://www.opencebit.com.au/ "2.4.1ac17 is full of innovations and should be used with caution." - Linux Weekly News ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 10:37 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: > Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > > Anne Østergaard wrote: > >>> Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008 > >>> > >>> GUADEC is the yearly GNOME Users and Developers European Conference. > > > > Does that automatically exclude those outside EU from sending proposals ? > > It's been widely agreed last year & this year to avoid GUADEC as an > acronym - this has come up several times, and both Villanova and > Birmingham have adopted the convention of calling GUADEC "The GNOME > Conference". > > Does that mean that candidates outside the EU would be considered? Not > sure - we would need to discuss it. > > But one thing is for sure - the travel costs for attendees is something > which will definitely be taken into account, and in general that will > exclude anything outside North America and Europe. One thing more is politics of Countries. That's important because you need Visa to visit those countries. I know that it's not much problem for most of the people living in EU, but for example someone from Middle East can easily be alienated due to Visa problems of USA for example. > > Cheers, > Dave. > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 10:37 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: > > Does that mean that candidates outside the EU would be considered? Not > sure - we would need to discuss it. > > But one thing is for sure - the travel costs for attendees is > something > which will definitely be taken into account, and in general that will > exclude anything outside North America and Europe. /me fancies a GUADEC in Dubai. -- behdad http://behdad.org/ "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
I think we should in general encourage people who think they are located in a place that make it feasible for people in west Europe and the US to go there to apply to host GUADEC. Even if they are not in Europe per se. For instance I it struck me that Morocco could be a good alternative when I was there, as its cheap in terms of food and lodging, yet reasonably well connected with cheap flights (EasyJet flies to Marrakesh from both London and Madrid for example). I am sure places like Egypt, Israel, non-European parts of Turkey and Russia have similar setups. Of course even within 'Europe' we have kept things quite far to the west so far so there is for sure opportunities for a spread of applicants even with that constraint in place. Christian On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 09:55 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Anne Østergaard wrote: > > Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008 > > > > GUADEC is the yearly GNOME Users and Developers European Conference. > > Does that automatically exclude those outside EU from sending proposals ? > > :Sankarshan > > - -- > > You see things; and you say 'Why?'; > But I dream things that never were; > and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGAgUgXQZpNTcrCzMRAiSpAJ9xk0fSv+cjrYjXMdNAQUMe7X+DVgCggLwA > u1BMR2UYThx1RnYeSh7V6Bs= > =hCGB > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
Well, I would love a GUADEC in Morocco, however, I doubt that we had the necessary local group there for organizing it. :( Salu2 On 3/23/07, Christian F.K. Schaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we should in general encourage people who think they are located > in a place that make it feasible for people in west Europe and the US > to go there to apply to host GUADEC. Even if they are not in Europe per > se. For instance I it struck me that Morocco could be a good alternative > when I was there, as its cheap in terms of food and lodging, yet > reasonably well connected with cheap flights (EasyJet flies to Marrakesh > from both London and Madrid for example). I am sure places like Egypt, > Israel, non-European parts of Turkey and Russia have similar setups. > Of course even within 'Europe' we have kept things quite far to the west > so far so there is for sure opportunities for a spread of applicants > even with that constraint in place. > > Christian > > > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 09:55 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Anne Østergaard wrote: > > > Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008 > > > > > > GUADEC is the yearly GNOME Users and Developers European Conference. > > > > Does that automatically exclude those outside EU from sending proposals ? > > > > :Sankarshan > > > > - -- > > > > You see things; and you say 'Why?'; > > But I dream things that never were; > > and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > > iD8DBQFGAgUgXQZpNTcrCzMRAiSpAJ9xk0fSv+cjrYjXMdNAQUMe7X+DVgCggLwA > > u1BMR2UYThx1RnYeSh7V6Bs= > > =hCGB > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > > foundation-list mailing list > > foundation-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > ___ > foundation-announce mailing list > foundation-announce@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-announce > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 11:29 +0100, Christian F.K. Schaller wrote: > I think we should in general encourage people who think they are located > in a place that make it feasible for people in west Europe and the US > to go there to apply to host GUADEC. Even if they are not in Europe per > se. For instance I it struck me that Morocco could be a good alternative > when I was there, as its cheap in terms of food and lodging, yet > reasonably well connected with cheap flights (EasyJet flies to Marrakesh > from both London and Madrid for example). I am sure places like Egypt, > Israel, non-European parts of Turkey and Russia have similar setups. > Of course even within 'Europe' we have kept things quite far to the west > so far so there is for sure opportunities for a spread of applicants > even with that constraint in place. I'll talk w/ our local GUG about if we can organize to host GUADEC next year in Istanbul. > > Christian > > > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 09:55 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Anne Østergaard wrote: > > > Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008 > > > > > > GUADEC is the yearly GNOME Users and Developers European Conference. > > > > Does that automatically exclude those outside EU from sending proposals ? > > > > :Sankarshan > > > > - -- > > > > You see things; and you say 'Why?'; > > But I dream things that never were; > > and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > > iD8DBQFGAgUgXQZpNTcrCzMRAiSpAJ9xk0fSv+cjrYjXMdNAQUMe7X+DVgCggLwA > > u1BMR2UYThx1RnYeSh7V6Bs= > > =hCGB > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > > foundation-list mailing list > > foundation-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 15:14 +0200, Baris Cicek wrote: > I'll talk w/ our local GUG about if we can organize to host GUADEC next > year in Istanbul. Please, yes. -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 02:01 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: > Where necessary, and in this case I think it is, we should be very clear > about GNOME's geopolitical view of the world: North America is not in > Europe. > > - Jeff > > Hey Jeff, "GNOME" cannot have a geopolitical view since "Gnome is people" and we each, well, erhm, perhaps, think a little differently. Now the "GNOME foundation" probably has to recognize nation states but don't think for a second that means that "GNOME" does. As for the myth of the continents, that useful fiction to define the "others" as being from "elsewhere" and therefore inferior, closer to the animals (not that anything evolved from the animals, no siree!), and generally worthy of conquest, pillage, exploitation, well, perhaps our code of conduct would lead some of us to re-examine the concept and perhaps leave it out of our language. Which leaves this gnomer with the "Gnome Users' and Developers' Earth Conference," something that could happen in lots of places ... and lovely if it did, especially in, say, a town of Mediterranean climate with good air, food, and wine, leading to fine discussions, grandiose plans and a great vibe for another year. And if such a thing happened in say Turkey, Lebanon, Mexico, or Cape Verde, who would seriously object? --adrian, who will now throttle his bandwidth, hoping that most have deleted this unread. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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What about going a little off the beaten track, like Kathmandu say? Singapore, Shanghai, Cairo, Istanbul, Athens? -Alex Alan Cox wrote: >> But one thing is for sure - the travel costs for attendees is something >> which will definitely be taken into account, and in general that will >> exclude anything outside North America and Europe. > > That depends upon the time of year and location. The bit of North > America which is civilised to visitors (Canada) can be very pricy in > summer but very very cheap in winter [guess why]. This is a problem with > OLS. > > Mexico has some claim to be the original "home of Gnome"... > > Alan > ___ > foundation-announce mailing list > foundation-announce@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-announce ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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On 3/23/07, Murray Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 15:14 +0200, Baris Cicek wrote: > > I'll talk w/ our local GUG about if we can organize to host GUADEC next > > year in Istanbul. > > Please, yes. Please, no. Not until I can come. Istanbul 2010! ;) Luis (seriously, Istanbul would rock.) ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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Baris Cicek wrote: > I'll talk w/ our local GUG about if we can organize to host GUADEC next year > in Istanbul. Not Constantinople? -- Elliot Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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What about Malta? Cypress? sri On 3/22/07, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 10:37 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: > > Does that mean that candidates outside the EU would be considered? Not > sure - we would need to discuss it. > > But one thing is for sure - the travel costs for attendees is > something > which will definitely be taken into account, and in general that will > exclude anything outside North America and Europe. /me fancies a GUADEC in Dubai. -- behdad http://behdad.org/ "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 ___ foundation-announce mailing list foundation-announce@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-announce -- -- Sriram Ramkrishna ([EMAIL PROTECTED]((&)aracnet.com) ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
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I'm only on foundation-announce, not on foundation-list, but yet I get this discussion about GUADEC 2008. Can you please make the announcement list moderated so all these follow-up postings don't get distributed to everyone. Thanks. Example: * Christian F.K. Schaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-03-23 11:29]: > I think we should in general encourage people who think they are located > in a place that make it feasible for people in west Europe and the US > ___ > foundation-announce mailing list > foundation-announce@gnome.org ^^ > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-announce -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
On 3/23/07, Baris Cicek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 11:29 +0100, Christian F.K. Schaller wrote: > > I think we should in general encourage people who think they are located > > in a place that make it feasible for people in west Europe and the US > > to go there to apply to host GUADEC. Even if they are not in Europe per > > se. For instance I it struck me that Morocco could be a good alternative > > when I was there, as its cheap in terms of food and lodging, yet > > reasonably well connected with cheap flights (EasyJet flies to Marrakesh > > from both London and Madrid for example). I am sure places like Egypt, > > Israel, non-European parts of Turkey and Russia have similar setups. > > Of course even within 'Europe' we have kept things quite far to the west > > so far so there is for sure opportunities for a spread of applicants > > even with that constraint in place. > I'll talk w/ our local GUG about if we can organize to host GUADEC next > year in Istanbul. > I'm all for Istanbul! Zaheer ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 07:04 -0700, Elliot Lee wrote: > Baris Cicek wrote: > > > I'll talk w/ our local GUG about if we can organize to host GUADEC next > > year in Istanbul. > > Not Constantinople? It was called Constantinople ages ago, afaik, but however you call it, as long as we point same land place, some languages still uses Constantinople name I guess. Though officially this city is called Istanbul as one of most beautiful cities in the World. (even though lots of corruption due to migration). Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul > > -- Elliot > > > > > > > > Never miss an email again! > Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
On 3/24/07, Baris Cicek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 07:04 -0700, Elliot Lee wrote: > > Baris Cicek wrote: > > > > > I'll talk w/ our local GUG about if we can organize to host GUADEC next > > > year in Istanbul. > > > > Not Constantinople? > It was called Constantinople ages ago, afaik, but however you call it, > as long as we point same land place, some languages still uses > Constantinople name I guess. Though officially this city is called > Istanbul as one of most beautiful cities in the World. (even though lots > of corruption due to migration). I believe Elliot was making a reference to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_Not_Constantinople Moral of the story: always footnote your non-cross-cultural jokes ;) Luis ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 20:01 -0700, sri wrote: > What about Malta? Cypress? While I don't know where all the membership lives, I do know that Sri is hanging in Portland. Why are so many North Americans (No.mericans) suggesting cities, and why have so many missed the entire European peninsula? This might be an indictment upon geography teachers. I think the No.mericans could drive this conference if enough of them formed a nomadic LUG and migrated to an agreeable destination. Reykjavik is the closest European city to North Americans. It has the largest number of pubs/bars per capita. Lots of hot tubs. It produces more than its fair share of musicians. Faries (magical folk) are protected by law! -- __C U R T I S C. H O V E Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guilty of stealing everything I am. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
On 24 Mar 2007, at 14:56, Curtis Hovey wrote: [...] > Reykjavik is the closest European city to North Americans. It has the > largest number of pubs/bars per capita. Lots of hot tubs. It produces > more than its fair share of musicians. Faries (magical folk) are > protected by law! Brilliant idea! I just got back from Reykjavik and I did wonder what sort of GNOME community (if any) there was around. I'd love an excuse to go back again. I think it is important for Europeans to have a GNOME conference each year though, so I don't think taking GUADEC out of europe would be a good thing. I don't know why we're so ashamed of the E in GUADEC. Perhaps we should re-emphasize that the E means "held in Europe". It certainly doesn't mean non-europeans can't attend and it certainly doesn't mean other continents can't hold their own GUADEC style conferences! Regards, Thomas ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
> I'm only on foundation-announce, not on foundation-list, but yet I get > this discussion about GUADEC 2008. Can you please make the announcement > list moderated so all these follow-up postings don't get distributed to > everyone. It's already moderated. I hassled the appropriate people about the leakage last week. Shouldn't happen again. :-) - Jeff -- Open CeBIT 2007: Sydney, Australia http://www.opencebit.com.au/ "Then it hit me: What I really want is for all edit panes in all applications to be gnuclient processes hooked to a centralized emacs gnuserver process!" - Gary Murphy ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
El jue, 22-03-2007 a las 12:11 +, Alan Cox escribió: > Mexico has some claim to be the original "home of Gnome"... In fact! we want to organize the GUADLAC (GNOME Users And Developers Latin American Conference) the "Latin American GUADEC", later this year, it can be the pre-GUADEC in Mexico :) Greetings, Miguel ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 00:01 -0600, Miguel Angel López Hernández wrote: > El jue, 22-03-2007 a las 12:11 +, Alan Cox escribió: > > > Mexico has some claim to be the original "home of Gnome"... > > In fact! we want to organize the GUADLAC (GNOME Users And Developers > Latin American Conference) the "Latin American GUADEC", later this year, > it can be the pre-GUADEC in Mexico :) Why not just GUADAC? You are suggesting that US and Canada should start their own GUADNAC, are you? > Greetings, > Miguel -- behdad http://behdad.org/ "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Call for invitations to be the host of GUADEC 2008
> Why not just GUADAC? You are suggesting that US and Canada should start > their own GUADNAC, are you? You guys have the Summit! - Jeff -- Open CeBIT 2007: Sydney, Australia http://www.opencebit.com.au/ "'Cause remember, smug is beautiful." - Zachary Beane ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
