Fwd: Candidacy: Seif Lotfy
Lefty fwd'd his reply to the list, but not mine to him. -- Forwarded message -- From: Iain i...@gnome.org Date: Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 5:34 PM Subject: Re: Candidacy: Seif Lotfy To: Lefty (石鏡 ) le...@shugendo.org On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Lefty (石鏡 ) le...@shugendo.org wrote: On 6/1/10 7:38 AM, Iain i...@gnome.org wrote: It seems to me that your underlying belief is that there is too much (large) corporate influence in GNOME. Would you say that you might have some conflict of interest here given that your project (Zeitgeist) was ignored/shunned by the GNOME Shell developers? Iain, this seems unreasonable to me. Is anyone who decides to run for the board who's ever had a disagreement with some group of GNOME developers or other going to be subject to the suggestion that they have a conflict of interest? If that's the case, I doubt we can really find a single qualified candidate. Everyone's got their interests and views, and (hopefully) the candidates are candid about what their views are. I think these suggestions of conflicts of interest are, honestly, a little out of line. I disagree, I don't remember any candidate who has quite glaringly obvious conflicts of interest running though their candidacy statement as Seif's. Its a struggle to find anything in his statement that doesn't come from his annoyance that Zeitgeist is not being picked up for GNOME 3. I have to say that I don't think we need to have spotlessly clean, conflict of interest free candidates. Its perfectly fine to run for the board even if these conflicts exist. They are his opinions, interests and beliefs after all, but it seems rather disingenious to pretend that the conflicts do not exist and I think it is completely proper to mention them, discuss them in public and to allow people to make up their own minds as to whether the conflict is going to cause a problem if they are elected. This is the reason elected representatives are supposed to inform the public as to their conflicts of interest, so that we can see whether or not the decisions they make are for the good of the project/country or for the own person. Seeing as Seif has mentioned in the past his plans for starting a company based around Zeitgeist, I think this is a very important issue. The board is not a method to push your personal projects in the limelight. In future, I would prefer it if you would reply in public, thanks, iain ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Fwd: Candidacy: Seif Lotfy
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 11:52 +0100, Iain wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Lefty (石鏡 ) le...@shugendo.org wrote: On 6/1/10 7:38 AM, Iain i...@gnome.org wrote: It seems to me that your underlying belief is that there is too much (large) corporate influence in GNOME. Would you say that you might have some conflict of interest here given that your project (Zeitgeist) was ignored/shunned by the GNOME Shell developers? Iain, this seems unreasonable to me. Is anyone who decides to run for the board who's ever had a disagreement with some group of GNOME developers or other going to be subject to the suggestion that they have a conflict of interest? If that's the case, I doubt we can really find a single qualified candidate. Everyone's got their interests and views, and (hopefully) the candidates are candid about what their views are. I think these suggestions of conflicts of interest are, honestly, a little out of line. I disagree, I don't remember any candidate who has quite glaringly obvious conflicts of interest running though their candidacy statement as Seif's. Its a struggle to find anything in his statement that doesn't come from his annoyance that Zeitgeist is not being picked up for GNOME 3. The way I read Seif's candidacy is that he wants more coordination to take place between different GNOME stakeholders (community, Canonical, RH, Novell, etc) when it comes to the development and design of a technology like GNOME's Shell. This is _perfectly_ reasonable and several people have responded already that they understand and agree with this. Include me in that group. In future, I would prefer it if you would reply in public, In my opinion is your Seif - Zeitgeist conspiracy theory, crazy. It's also my opinion that it doesn't belong on the foundation-list. Can you stick to asking the candidates relevant questions? [Context] Lefty fwd'd his reply to the list, but not mine to him. In future, I would prefer it if you would reply in public, Lefty did reply in public. Getting your reply on the foundation-list is your responsibility, not Lefty's. It would even be impolite if he'd have forwarded a private reply from you to him unto a public mailing list. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Van Hoof freelance software developer Codeminded BVBA - http://codeminded.be ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
