Re: The problem on the foundation front page
Murray, I deeply regret if I made impression of any kind of "thought police". All I wanted was clarity and unambiguity (=unequivocalness). Regards, Sergey On Nov 15, 2007 4:13 PM, Murray Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 08:12 -0300, Bruno Boaventura wrote: > > On Nov 14, 2007 2:53 PM, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That is a legitimate approach, and it can be helpful as you say. > > > However, those precise words are subject to the reading, not intended, > > > which Sergey saw in them. Perhaps a rewording, or a link to > > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html, > > > would help clarify this. > > > > I have the same thought. A link to www.opensource.org can bring out > > the idea: "Free Software" = "Open Source". > > I would prefer GNOME to officially withdraw from GNU rather than be > repeatedly subject to the thought police. We happily represent a range > of opinions and can't possibly be forced to forever avoid any mention of > something that you don't agree with and/or be forced to promote exactly > what you think is important this week in exactly the words that you > dictate to us. No, I don't want to argue with you about it. > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.murrayc.com > www.openismus.com > > ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: The problem on the foundation front page
On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 08:12 -0300, Bruno Boaventura wrote: > On Nov 14, 2007 2:53 PM, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That is a legitimate approach, and it can be helpful as you say. > > However, those precise words are subject to the reading, not intended, > > which Sergey saw in them. Perhaps a rewording, or a link to > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html, > > would help clarify this. > > I have the same thought. A link to www.opensource.org can bring out > the idea: "Free Software" = "Open Source". I would prefer GNOME to officially withdraw from GNU rather than be repeatedly subject to the thought police. We happily represent a range of opinions and can't possibly be forced to forever avoid any mention of something that you don't agree with and/or be forced to promote exactly what you think is important this week in exactly the words that you dictate to us. No, I don't want to argue with you about it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: The problem on the foundation front page
On Nov 14, 2007 2:53 PM, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is a legitimate approach, and it can be helpful as you say. > However, those precise words are subject to the reading, not intended, > which Sergey saw in them. Perhaps a rewording, or a link to > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html, > would help clarify this. I have the same thought. A link to www.opensource.org can bring out the idea: "Free Software" = "Open Source". My 2 cents. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: The problem on the foundation front page
The first term is the preferred/correct one while the one in brackets helps connecting a phrase familiar to many people. I personally don't have any problem with either one. That is a legitimate approach, and it can be helpful as you say. However, those precise words are subject to the reading, not intended, which Sergey saw in them. Perhaps a rewording, or a link to http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html, would help clarify this. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: The problem on the foundation front page
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 22:02 +, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: > Hello people, > > I just looked at the foundation front page > http://foundation.gnome.org/ and found somewhat strange sentense: > > > GNOME is part of the GNU Project, and is Free Software (sometimes referred > > to as Open Source software). > > Don't you think that for a project wich is the part of the GNU project > mixing Free Software and Open Source as synonyms is unforgivable > mistake? I think that sentence is very accurate. And it doesn't state them as synonyms, no. It's the same as "GNU/Linux (commonly referred to as Linux)" you find on http://www.gnome.org/about/. The first term is the preferred/correct one while the one in brackets helps connecting a phrase familiar to many people. I personally don't have any problem with either one. > Sorry for being pedantic - but I think we should be rather careful > about these things. This would be much more effective when raised on the proper mailing list. gnome-web-list in this case, which I'm CC'ing. Please remove foundation-list in replies. While at that, gnome-web people, can we replace the "Linux or UNIX" on the front page with the correct term please? Given previous discussion, I'll go ahead and do that this weekend if no one objects. > Cheers, > > Sergey -- behdad http://behdad.org/ "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
The problem on the foundation front page
Hello people, I just looked at the foundation front page http://foundation.gnome.org/ and found somewhat strange sentense: > GNOME is part of the GNU Project, and is Free Software (sometimes referred > to as Open Source software). Don't you think that for a project wich is the part of the GNU project mixing Free Software and Open Source as synonyms is unforgivable mistake? Sorry for being pedantic - but I think we should be rather careful about these things. Cheers, Sergey ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
