Re: This week in Gnome?

[Nuritzi Sanchez]

John,

If you're interested in getting something like this started (or if anyone
else is), I encourage you to join the Engagement team. We talk about things
like this. We need more members to get cool projects off of the ground, so
if you are interested in increasing internal engagement at GNOME, or
increasing external engagement, (or both!), please consider joining us.

We have regular meeting on Fridays at 17:00 UTC on a blend of the #
engagement channel and https://meet.jit.si/engagement. You're still in time
if you want to make the one today ;)


Best,
Nuritzi
(IRC: nuritzis)


On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna 
wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 2:47 AM Sébastien Wilmet 
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:47:16PM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
>> > Thanks for reminding me of the old days :-)
>> >
>> > Various people did that in the past:
>> >
>> >
>> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/1999-July/msg00021.html
>> >
>> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2001-April/msg00034.html
>> > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2002-April/msg00068.html
>> > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2004-March/msg00017.html
>> >
>> > I think that last one is the last that was sent, but not really sure.
>>
>> More recently, Frédéric Péters wrote the commit digests:
>> https://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/
>>
>> With statistics. I think statistics are great and is a source of
>> motivation when we are listed, and it can be automated (like sending a
>> mail to desktop-devel-list each week).
>>
>
> I'm okay with sending out metrics, but they need to have a purpose.
> Basically, what do we do with these metrics and what goal do they drive?
>
> When we did GNOME summaries, we also tried to do some interpretation and
> some observations as part of the metrics.  Otherwise, they get sent out and
> they get wholly ignored as noise.  I don't want people people taking the
> trouble information.
>
> Some things to think about.  Again, I'm happy to mentor people who are
> interested in doing this as I've been thinking about this for awhile at
> least from an onboarding perspective.
>
> sri
>
>
>>
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Re: This week in Gnome?

[John McHugh]

This week in rust is worth looking at as well. They have a section on new
crates and project updates which could be nice to have(flatpak's maybe). in
terms of project updates there is the question of scope. Should we keep
track of elementary apps and include updates as part of the summary? I
think it might be a good idea.

On Fri, 20 May 2016 at 16:18 Sriram Ramkrishna  wrote:

> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 2:47 AM Sébastien Wilmet 
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:47:16PM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
>> > Thanks for reminding me of the old days :-)
>> >
>> > Various people did that in the past:
>> >
>> >
>> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/1999-July/msg00021.html
>> >
>> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2001-April/msg00034.html
>> > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2002-April/msg00068.html
>> > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2004-March/msg00017.html
>> >
>> > I think that last one is the last that was sent, but not really sure.
>>
>> More recently, Frédéric Péters wrote the commit digests:
>> https://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/
>>
>> With statistics. I think statistics are great and is a source of
>> motivation when we are listed, and it can be automated (like sending a
>> mail to desktop-devel-list each week).
>>
>
> I'm okay with sending out metrics, but they need to have a purpose.
> Basically, what do we do with these metrics and what goal do they drive?
>
> When we did GNOME summaries, we also tried to do some interpretation and
> some observations as part of the metrics.  Otherwise, they get sent out and
> they get wholly ignored as noise.  I don't want people people taking the
> trouble information.
>
> Some things to think about.  Again, I'm happy to mentor people who are
> interested in doing this as I've been thinking about this for awhile at
> least from an onboarding perspective.
>
> sri
>
>
>>
>> --
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Re: This week in Gnome?

[Sriram Ramkrishna]

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 2:47 AM Sébastien Wilmet  wrote:

> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:47:16PM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > Thanks for reminding me of the old days :-)
> >
> > Various people did that in the past:
> >
> >
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/1999-July/msg00021.html
> >
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2001-April/msg00034.html
> > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2002-April/msg00068.html
> > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2004-March/msg00017.html
> >
> > I think that last one is the last that was sent, but not really sure.
>
> More recently, Frédéric Péters wrote the commit digests:
> https://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/
>
> With statistics. I think statistics are great and is a source of
> motivation when we are listed, and it can be automated (like sending a
> mail to desktop-devel-list each week).
>

I'm okay with sending out metrics, but they need to have a purpose.
Basically, what do we do with these metrics and what goal do they drive?

When we did GNOME summaries, we also tried to do some interpretation and
some observations as part of the metrics.  Otherwise, they get sent out and
they get wholly ignored as noise.  I don't want people people taking the
trouble information.

Some things to think about.  Again, I'm happy to mentor people who are
interested in doing this as I've been thinking about this for awhile at
least from an onboarding perspective.

sri


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Re: This week in Gnome?

[Sébastien Wilmet]

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:47:16PM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Thanks for reminding me of the old days :-)
> 
> Various people did that in the past:
> 
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/1999-July/msg00021.html
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2001-April/msg00034.html
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2002-April/msg00068.html
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2004-March/msg00017.html
> 
> I think that last one is the last that was sent, but not really sure.

More recently, Frédéric Péters wrote the commit digests:
https://blogs.gnome.org/commitdigest/

With statistics. I think statistics are great and is a source of
motivation when we are listed, and it can be automated (like sending a
mail to desktop-devel-list each week).

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Re: This week in Gnome?

[Sriram Ramkrishna]

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 12:46 PM Luis Villa <l...@lu.is> wrote:

> Wikimedia has a pretty good "this week in", and it adds a lot of value.
> But it is a lot of work to do well.
>
> (I seem to recall we even used to have one in GNOME, though I can't find
> evidence of that offhand. Would have been at least a decade ago.)
>

We used to have something called GNOME Summaries, that Christian   Schaller
and I both did back in the late 90s.  It wasn't a ton of work back then,
but doing it now would be a considerable amount of work.

To do something like that requires creating tools that watch bugzilla.

If someone is interested in helping I am sure we can put together something
that could address it.

sri

Luis
>
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016, 6:33 PM Michael Catanzaro <mcatanz...@gnome.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2016-05-18 at 23:36 +, John McHugh wrote:
>> > Was thinking that maybe it would be a good idea to set up a this week
>> > in
>> > gnome blog.
>>
>> Can you make it happen?
>>
>> It sounds like a good idea to me, but it needs someone to make it
>> happen.
>>
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Re: This week in Gnome?

[Vincent Untz]

Le jeudi 19 mai 2016, à 19:46 +, Luis Villa a écrit :
> Wikimedia has a pretty good "this week in", and it adds a lot of value. But
> it is a lot of work to do well.
> 
> (I seem to recall we even used to have one in GNOME, though I can't find
> evidence of that offhand. Would have been at least a decade ago.)

Thanks for reminding me of the old days :-)

Various people did that in the past:

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/1999-July/msg00021.html
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2001-April/msg00034.html
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2002-April/msg00068.html
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2004-March/msg00017.html

I think that last one is the last that was sent, but not really sure.

Cheers,

Vincent

> Luis
> 
> On Wed, May 18, 2016, 6:33 PM Michael Catanzaro <mcatanz...@gnome.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2016-05-18 at 23:36 +, John McHugh wrote:
> > > Was thinking that maybe it would be a good idea to set up a this week
> > > in
> > > gnome blog.
> >
> > Can you make it happen?
> >
> > It sounds like a good idea to me, but it needs someone to make it
> > happen.
> >
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Re: This week in Gnome?

[Luis Villa]

Wikimedia has a pretty good "this week in", and it adds a lot of value. But
it is a lot of work to do well.

(I seem to recall we even used to have one in GNOME, though I can't find
evidence of that offhand. Would have been at least a decade ago.)
Luis

On Wed, May 18, 2016, 6:33 PM Michael Catanzaro <mcatanz...@gnome.org>
wrote:

> On Wed, 2016-05-18 at 23:36 +, John McHugh wrote:
> > Was thinking that maybe it would be a good idea to set up a this week
> > in
> > gnome blog.
>
> Can you make it happen?
>
> It sounds like a good idea to me, but it needs someone to make it
> happen.
>
> Michael
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Re: This week in Gnome?

[Jeff F. T.]

I'm under the impression that even just making a digest of Planet GNOME
alone would be a full-time job* (also tricky in terms of curation)...
If on top of that you widen the scope to include even third-party apps
from outside of the GNOME infrastructure, well... you turn into That
Recently Discussed News Site That Shall Not Be Named.

It also overlaps, to some extent, with http://news.gnome.org or our
various social media outlets (much easier to just point to blog posts
using social media). IMHO, those would seem to be good places for this
writing to happen, were it to be in any official fashion.

*: or for it to be done collectively and systematically, the
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This week in Gnome?

[John McHugh]

Was thinking that maybe it would be a good idea to set up a this week in
gnome blog. Also maybe try and get more downstream developers who have
attempted to target gnome to have their blogs syndicated on the planet,
engaging with developers who are targeting elementary might also be a good
idea.

There have been efforts to port applications to gnome HIG in the past which
have gone somewhat under the radar. This is quiet unfortunate. ->
https://github.com/derekstavis/transmission
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