RE: Crontab Log
Hi, On our AW's the crontab runs every week the chk_awp tool made by Angel Corbeira. You can find the link to his website on the cassandra website. http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/5825/ac.htm http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/5825/ac.htm The chk_awp sends automatically a report to my mailbox. All you have to do is compare that with the previous report. The report gives you a lot of information about free HD space, mirroring status, uptime load, running processes info, cpu and memory info, IPC connections, core files, big files, crash files, dump files, user/system login and last but not least the CRON LOG FILE size. When used hd space exceeds 75 % I start to clean up the AW. Regards, Jan Stas Distrigas Belgium --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question
Jim, We did an upgrade like yours last year (with a slight difference, we went from 6.1 to 6.2.1 -- for all practical purposes, 4.3 and 6.1 are the same). Here are our take on your questions: 1. No, the nodes can be converted individually. Foxboro recommends that you upgrade the node where CSA resides first. Luckily it works out for us without having to move the CSA server to the first node to be converted. 2. Yes, most definitely. We'll be the last system to be forced to migrate to FoxView. 3. Again, yes. Legacy historians work fine. 4. We did this as a Day 0 install, so we reboot the CPs anyway. It didn't make any difference to us if the CP images were new or not. Duc -- Duc M. Do Process Control Systems Dow Corning, Carrollton Plant Carrollton, KY, US -Original Message- From: James Kahlden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Hello List, We are looking at updating our version 4.3 system to version 6.2.1 in order to expand our system to include the new CP60. We currently use AW/WP51B's with Display Manager and the Legacy Historian. Our CP's are fault tolerant CP40A's. We have 5 nodes connected via Carrier Band LAN. We can not shut down all nodes at once, since this system controls two 600 megawatt coal fired power generators. Questions? 1. Do all of the nodes need to be converted at one time to 6.2.1 or can some nodes exist at 4.3 while part of the node is at 6.2.1? 2. Can we continue to use our Display Manager displays, or do we have to change to the Fox View displays? 3. Can we continue to use the Legacy Historian at version 6.2.1, or do we have to convert to the AIM historian? 4. Is there a different CP image at version 6.2.1 that requires a reboot of the CP for this upgrade? Thanks for any guidance that you can give, as we are looking to see what windows of opportunity we have for doing this type of upgrade. Jim Kahlden [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question
-Original Message- From: James Kahlden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Hello List, We are looking at updating our version 4.3 system to version 6.2.1 in order to expand our system to include the new CP60. We currently use AW/WP51B's with Display Manager and the Legacy Historian. Our CP's are fault tolerant CP40A's. We have 5 nodes connected via Carrier Band LAN. We can not shut down all nodes at once, since this system controls two 600 megawatt coal fired power generators. Questions? These are the answers as I know them, someone from Foxboro will probably give a more detailed answer: 1. Do all of the nodes need to be converted at one time to 6.2.1 or can some nodes exist at 4.3 while part of the node is at 6.2.1? No, but you will have to do some special tricky stuff with the Device Manager. 2. Can we continue to use our Display Manager displays, or do we have to change to the Fox View displays? Yes, you can still use the DM 3. Can we continue to use the Legacy Historian at version 6.2.1, or do we have to convert to the AIM historian? Yes, you can still use the Legacy Historian 4. Is there a different CP image at version 6.2.1 that requires a reboot of the CP for this upgrade? Yes, this is a Day 0 upgrade and requires a CP reboot. Thanks for any guidance that you can give, as we are looking to see what windows of opportunity we have for doing this type of upgrade. Jim Kahlden [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question
It will be a dead heat as to whether you or we are the last to migrate to FoxView -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Jim, We did an upgrade like yours last year (with a slight difference, we went from 6.1 to 6.2.1 -- for all practical purposes, 4.3 and 6.1 are the same). Here are our take on your questions: 1. No, the nodes can be converted individually. Foxboro recommends that you upgrade the node where CSA resides first. Luckily it works out for us without having to move the CSA server to the first node to be converted. 2. Yes, most definitely. We'll be the last system to be forced to migrate to FoxView. 3. Again, yes. Legacy historians work fine. 4. We did this as a Day 0 install, so we reboot the CPs anyway. It didn't make any difference to us if the CP images were new or not. Duc -- Duc M. Do Process Control Systems Dow Corning, Carrollton Plant Carrollton, KY, US -Original Message- From: James Kahlden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Hello List, We are looking at updating our version 4.3 system to version 6.2.1 in order to expand our system to include the new CP60. We currently use AW/WP51B's with Display Manager and the Legacy Historian. Our CP's are fault tolerant CP40A's. We have 5 nodes connected via Carrier Band LAN. We can not shut down all nodes at once, since this system controls two 600 megawatt coal fired power generators. Questions? 1. Do all of the nodes need to be converted at one time to 6.2.1 or can some nodes exist at 4.3 while part of the node is at 6.2.1? 2. Can we continue to use our Display Manager displays, or do we have to change to the Fox View displays? 3. Can we continue to use the Legacy Historian at version 6.2.1, or do we have to convert to the AIM historian? 4. Is there a different CP image at version 6.2.1 that requires a reboot of the CP for this upgrade? Thanks for any guidance that you can give, as we are looking to see what windows of opportunity we have for doing this type of upgrade. Jim Kahlden [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Accumulator Block
Loyd, I don't believe you have to worry about 2 resets around 6:00 AM since M01 will not reset until midnight of the following day. Ray Rick Rys [EMAIL PROTECTED]@lists.TheCassandraProject.org on 03/18/2001 10:10:09 AM Please respond to Foxboro DCS Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Foxboro DCS Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: RE: Accumulator Block Loyd, One item to be aware of is: TIM in the CALC block gets the time from the CP operating system (VRTX). As the CP (operating system) is a slave timekeeper that is updated about every 10 minutes it is possible to skip a particular second if time is adjusted forward or if the time were set back, to pass through the same seconds from midnight twice within a few seconds. This would rarely happen as there are 600 seconds in 10 minutes and it would depend on the CP clock drift relative to the Master timekeeper clock drift and unknown details of how the time is actually updated. Some engineers have had trouble with this i.e. when CALC blocks looked for a particular point in time. It's not clear how much a CP clock can drift in 10 minutes, but unlike your PC motherboard the CP must keep time with the relatively poor clock of the Intel CPU as it has no battery backed real time clock. Ray Chouinard gives a pretty good example CALC. If the clock update were a few seconds backwards it would appear possible to get 2 resets within a few seconds. Presumably this is tolerable. Also upon a power-off CP reboot the CP time is unlikely to be correct initially (I think it comes up Jan 1, 1986) until the master timekeeper sets the time - a few minutes later. CALC blocks using TIM will likely undergo an abrupt change during this first time adjustment. This may present problems if you have one master accum block reset function used for multiple CP's. Rick Rys R2Controls --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question
Where's your sense of adventure, Bo? Foxview is GREAT! Julie Monsour - Original Message - From: Stear, Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question It will be a dead heat as to whether you or we are the last to migrate to FoxView -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Jim, We did an upgrade like yours last year (with a slight difference, we went from 6.1 to 6.2.1 -- for all practical purposes, 4.3 and 6.1 are the same). Here are our take on your questions: 1. No, the nodes can be converted individually. Foxboro recommends that you upgrade the node where CSA resides first. Luckily it works out for us without having to move the CSA server to the first node to be converted. 2. Yes, most definitely. We'll be the last system to be forced to migrate to FoxView. 3. Again, yes. Legacy historians work fine. 4. We did this as a Day 0 install, so we reboot the CPs anyway. It didn't make any difference to us if the CP images were new or not. Duc -- Duc M. Do Process Control Systems Dow Corning, Carrollton Plant Carrollton, KY, US -Original Message- From: James Kahlden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Hello List, We are looking at updating our version 4.3 system to version 6.2.1 in order to expand our system to include the new CP60. We currently use AW/WP51B's with Display Manager and the Legacy Historian. Our CP's are fault tolerant CP40A's. We have 5 nodes connected via Carrier Band LAN. We can not shut down all nodes at once, since this system controls two 600 megawatt coal fired power generators. Questions? 1. Do all of the nodes need to be converted at one time to 6.2.1 or can some nodes exist at 4.3 while part of the node is at 6.2.1? 2. Can we continue to use our Display Manager displays, or do we have to change to the Fox View displays? 3. Can we continue to use the Legacy Historian at version 6.2.1, or do we have to convert to the AIM historian? 4. Is there a different CP image at version 6.2.1 that requires a reboot of the CP for this upgrade? Thanks for any guidance that you can give, as we are looking to see what windows of opportunity we have for doing this type of upgrade. Jim Kahlden [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question - Why not FoxView?
I have to jump in here and ask why the reluctance to use FoxView? What don't I know? What should I know? We are a relatively new IA site and have never used the old Display Manager. Other than potential processor loading of older hardware and converting the displays, I can't see any reason not to use FoxView. The old style look of the Display Manager was enough incentive to cause us to start with FoxView. Gary Anderson Arizona Public Service -Original Message- From: Julie Monsour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:29 AM To: Foxboro DCS Mail List Subject: Re: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Where's your sense of adventure, Bo? Foxview is GREAT! Julie Monsour - Original Message - From: Stear, Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question It will be a dead heat as to whether you or we are the last to migrate to FoxView -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Jim, We did an upgrade like yours last year (with a slight difference, we went from 6.1 to 6.2.1 -- for all practical purposes, 4.3 and 6.1 are the same). Here are our take on your questions: 1. No, the nodes can be converted individually. Foxboro recommends that you upgrade the node where CSA resides first. Luckily it works out for us without having to move the CSA server to the first node to be converted. 2. Yes, most definitely. We'll be the last system to be forced to migrate to FoxView. 3. Again, yes. Legacy historians work fine. 4. We did this as a Day 0 install, so we reboot the CPs anyway. It didn't make any difference to us if the CP images were new or not. Duc -- Duc M. Do Process Control Systems Dow Corning, Carrollton Plant Carrollton, KY, US -Original Message- From: James Kahlden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Hello List, We are looking at updating our version 4.3 system to version 6.2.1 in order to expand our system to include the new CP60. We currently use AW/WP51B's with Display Manager and the Legacy Historian. Our CP's are fault tolerant CP40A's. We have 5 nodes connected via Carrier Band LAN. We can not shut down all nodes at once, since this system controls two 600 megawatt coal fired power generators. Questions? 1. Do all of the nodes need to be converted at one time to 6.2.1 or can some nodes exist at 4.3 while part of the node is at 6.2.1? 2. Can we continue to use our Display Manager displays, or do we have to change to the Fox View displays? 3. Can we continue to use the Legacy Historian at version 6.2.1, or do we have to convert to the AIM historian? 4. Is there a different CP image at version 6.2.1 that requires a reboot of the CP for this upgrade? Thanks for any guidance that you can give, as we are looking to see what windows of opportunity we have for doing this type of upgrade. Jim Kahlden [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due
RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question
Just curious: Is FoxView that bad, or is it just a pain to migrate? I'm relatively new to I/A. and find the legacy Display Builder a cumbersome tool to build graphics in (although some of the guys in the plant who have done it more don't complain much). I'm trying to evaluate whether to make a push to go to FoxView or not (it would be a gradual change even if we did, as I've heard it is best to rebuild existing screens in FoxDraw rather than try to import them). I'm not sure what Foxboro's stance is of supporting products beyond their useful life (i.e., after a newer replacement has come out), but the fact that DM documentation is not available on the CD looks like writing on the wall to me. Corey Clingo Sr. Engineer BASF Corporation Stear, Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/21/2001 07:46:29 AM Please respond to Foxboro DCS Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' Foxboro cc: Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question It will be a dead heat as to whether you or we are the last to migrate to FoxView --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question - Why not FoxView?
We have both the old display manager and new FoxView on our system; 4 nodes/1 LAN. FoxView is definitely the way to go. The old display manager graphics can easily be converted to FoxView. But the FoxView graphics we started from scratch are better then the converted ones. We did upgrade some motherboards and add some RAM to help some B boxes handle the new graphics. Anderson, Gary T(Z02256) [EMAIL PROTECTED] @lists.TheCassandraProject.org on 03/21/2001 09:32:56 AM Please respond to Foxboro DCS Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question - Why not FoxView? I have to jump in here and ask why the reluctance to use FoxView? What don't I know? What should I know? We are a relatively new IA site and have never used the old Display Manager. Other than potential processor loading of older hardware and converting the displays, I can't see any reason not to use FoxView. The old style look of the Display Manager was enough incentive to cause us to start with FoxView. Gary Anderson Arizona Public Service -Original Message- From: Julie Monsour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:29 AM To: Foxboro DCS Mail List Subject: Re: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Where's your sense of adventure, Bo? Foxview is GREAT! Julie Monsour - Original Message - From: Stear, Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question It will be a dead heat as to whether you or we are the last to migrate to FoxView -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Jim, We did an upgrade like yours last year (with a slight difference, we went from 6.1 to 6.2.1 -- for all practical purposes, 4.3 and 6.1 are the same). Here are our take on your questions: 1. No, the nodes can be converted individually. Foxboro recommends that you upgrade the node where CSA resides first. Luckily it works out for us without having to move the CSA server to the first node to be converted. 2. Yes, most definitely. We'll be the last system to be forced to migrate to FoxView. 3. Again, yes. Legacy historians work fine. 4. We did this as a Day 0 install, so we reboot the CPs anyway. It didn't make any difference to us if the CP images were new or not. Duc -- Duc M. Do Process Control Systems Dow Corning, Carrollton Plant Carrollton, KY, US -Original Message- From: James Kahlden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Hello List, We are looking at updating our version 4.3 system to version 6.2.1 in order to expand our system to include the new CP60. We currently use AW/WP51B's with Display Manager and the Legacy Historian. Our CP's are fault tolerant CP40A's. We have 5 nodes connected via Carrier Band LAN. We can not shut down all nodes at once, since this system controls two 600 megawatt coal fired power generators. Questions? 1. Do all of the nodes need to be converted at one time to 6.2.1 or can some nodes exist at 4.3 while part of the node is at 6.2.1? 2. Can we continue to use our Display Manager displays, or do we have to change to the Fox View displays? 3. Can we continue to use the Legacy Historian at version 6.2.1, or do we have to convert to the AIM historian? 4. Is there a different CP image at version 6.2.1 that requires a reboot of the CP for this upgrade? Thanks for any guidance that you can give, as we are looking to see what windows of opportunity we have for doing this type of upgrade. Jim Kahlden [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless
RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question
According to Websters: Adventure (ad-ven'tur), n. an event the issue of which is determined by chance: v.t. to hazard or risk. Hmmm, risk, hazard, chance... gimme a break! -Original Message- From: Julie Monsour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:29 AM To: Foxboro DCS Mail List Subject: Re: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Where's your sense of adventure, Bo? Foxview is GREAT! Julie Monsour - Original Message - From: Stear, Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question It will be a dead heat as to whether you or we are the last to migrate to FoxView -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Jim, We did an upgrade like yours last year (with a slight difference, we went from 6.1 to 6.2.1 -- for all practical purposes, 4.3 and 6.1 are the same). Here are our take on your questions: 1. No, the nodes can be converted individually. Foxboro recommends that you upgrade the node where CSA resides first. Luckily it works out for us without having to move the CSA server to the first node to be converted. 2. Yes, most definitely. We'll be the last system to be forced to migrate to FoxView. 3. Again, yes. Legacy historians work fine. 4. We did this as a Day 0 install, so we reboot the CPs anyway. It didn't make any difference to us if the CP images were new or not. Duc -- Duc M. Do Process Control Systems Dow Corning, Carrollton Plant Carrollton, KY, US -Original Message- From: James Kahlden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Hello List, We are looking at updating our version 4.3 system to version 6.2.1 in order to expand our system to include the new CP60. We currently use AW/WP51B's with Display Manager and the Legacy Historian. Our CP's are fault tolerant CP40A's. We have 5 nodes connected via Carrier Band LAN. We can not shut down all nodes at once, since this system controls two 600 megawatt coal fired power generators. Questions? 1. Do all of the nodes need to be converted at one time to 6.2.1 or can some nodes exist at 4.3 while part of the node is at 6.2.1? 2. Can we continue to use our Display Manager displays, or do we have to change to the Fox View displays? 3. Can we continue to use the Legacy Historian at version 6.2.1, or do we have to convert to the AIM historian? 4. Is there a different CP image at version 6.2.1 that requires a reboot of the CP for this upgrade? Thanks for any guidance that you can give, as we are looking to see what windows of opportunity we have for doing this type of upgrade. Jim Kahlden [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question - Why not FoxView?
Since you asked seriously, I'll respond properly. We that have had Foxboro I/A on our sites for many years had to deal with an especially slow call up time for displays in the early days, something on the order of 15 seconds or more. As time went by, the DM was improved and the hardware was updated to faster processors and now the DM is a real zinger as far as speed is concerned. Early releases of Foxview were an instant reminder of the slow speed of the DM in its early stages because the call up time for it was something on the order of 15 seconds or more on the, then prevalent, WP51 Style 'B' workstations. Even now, the current Foxview is 3 to 5 times slower in call up time than the DM on the 'B' style workstations. Since we have some 80 style 'B' workstations in house now, even the very best advantage upgrade to a faster processor would be too expensive and so is not possible. If we were to switch to Foxview today, I expect that our operators would soon hang me from some pipe rack by my thumbs because they are used ! to the speed. SO, I do not dislike Foxview for any particularly detrimental reason and others that agree with me probably do so for the same reasons (but they should speak for themselves). -Original Message- From: Anderson, Gary T(Z02256) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:33 AM To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question - Why not FoxView? I have to jump in here and ask why the reluctance to use FoxView? What don't I know? What should I know? We are a relatively new IA site and have never used the old Display Manager. Other than potential processor loading of older hardware and converting the displays, I can't see any reason not to use FoxView. The old style look of the Display Manager was enough incentive to cause us to start with FoxView. Gary Anderson Arizona Public Service -Original Message- From: Julie Monsour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:29 AM To: Foxboro DCS Mail List Subject: Re: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Where's your sense of adventure, Bo? Foxview is GREAT! Julie Monsour - Original Message - From: Stear, Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question It will be a dead heat as to whether you or we are the last to migrate to FoxView -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Jim, We did an upgrade like yours last year (with a slight difference, we went from 6.1 to 6.2.1 -- for all practical purposes, 4.3 and 6.1 are the same). Here are our take on your questions: 1. No, the nodes can be converted individually. Foxboro recommends that you upgrade the node where CSA resides first. Luckily it works out for us without having to move the CSA server to the first node to be converted. 2. Yes, most definitely. We'll be the last system to be forced to migrate to FoxView. 3. Again, yes. Legacy historians work fine. 4. We did this as a Day 0 install, so we reboot the CPs anyway. It didn't make any difference to us if the CP images were new or not. Duc -- Duc M. Do Process Control Systems Dow Corning, Carrollton Plant Carrollton, KY, US -Original Message- From: James Kahlden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Hello List, We are looking at updating our version 4.3 system to version 6.2.1 in order to expand our system to include the new CP60. We currently use AW/WP51B's with Display Manager and the Legacy Historian. Our CP's are fault tolerant CP40A's. We have 5 nodes connected via Carrier Band LAN. We can not shut down all nodes at once, since this system controls two 600 megawatt coal fired power generators. Questions? 1. Do all of the nodes need to be converted at one time to 6.2.1 or can some nodes exist at 4.3 while part of the node is at 6.2.1? 2. Can we continue to use our Display Manager displays, or do we have to change to the Fox View displays? 3. Can we continue to use the Legacy Historian at version 6.2.1, or do we have to convert to the AIM historian? 4. Is there a different CP image at version 6.2.1 that requires a reboot of the CP for this upgrade? Thanks for any guidance that you can give, as we are looking to see what windows of opportunity we have for doing this type of upgrade. Jim Kahlden [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any
RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question
Some things to think about. On the plus side FoxDraw has the build and configuration functions within the same program, it is easier to edit text, some additional file formats can sometimes be incorporated into a FoxDraw graphic, you can create some nifty looking graphics, and there might be few new trend enhancements. However, there may be more negatives than positives concerning FoxView/FoxDraw. These negatives include a reduced graphic size, a lot higher memory requirements, runs slower on Sun Stations, often painful use of nested links/objects in graphic library objects, the increased difficulty or lack of ability to get FoxView to start up in different Environments based on the dmcfg file, the current inability of FoxDraw (51 Series) to retain an existing link to another directory when the graphic file is modified (i.e. if a graphic file exists in /usr/disp and is linked to /usr/menus/d1, the link will be lost if the file is saved out of FoxDraw). We too are still running the old Display Manager on most of our systems, except for one that has a mixture of both Sun and NT stations. Corey R Clingo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Foxboro DCS Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question oject.org 03/21/01 10:11 AM Please respond to Foxboro DCS Mail List Just curious: Is FoxView that bad, or is it just a pain to migrate? I'm relatively new to I/A. and find the legacy Display Builder a cumbersome tool to build graphics in (although some of the guys in the plant who have done it more don't complain much). I'm trying to evaluate whether to make a push to go to FoxView or not (it would be a gradual change even if we did, as I've heard it is best to rebuild existing screens in FoxDraw rather than try to import them). I'm not sure what Foxboro's stance is of supporting products beyond their useful life (i.e., after a newer replacement has come out), but the fact that DM documentation is not available on the CD looks like writing on the wall to me. Corey Clingo Sr. Engineer BASF Corporation Stear, Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/21/2001 07:46:29 AM Please respond to Foxboro DCS Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' Foxboro cc: Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question It will be a dead heat as to whether you or we are the last to migrate to FoxView --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question
hmmm...Well, maybe adventure was a poor choice for a word, then. - Original Message - From: Stear, Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:29 AM Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question According to Websters: Adventure (ad-ven'tur), n. an event the issue of which is determined by chance: v.t. to hazard or risk. Hmmm, risk, hazard, chance... gimme a break! -Original Message- From: Julie Monsour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:29 AM To: Foxboro DCS Mail List Subject: Re: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Where's your sense of adventure, Bo? Foxview is GREAT! Julie Monsour - Original Message - From: Stear, Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question It will be a dead heat as to whether you or we are the last to migrate to FoxView -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Jim, We did an upgrade like yours last year (with a slight difference, we went from 6.1 to 6.2.1 -- for all practical purposes, 4.3 and 6.1 are the same). Here are our take on your questions: 1. No, the nodes can be converted individually. Foxboro recommends that you upgrade the node where CSA resides first. Luckily it works out for us without having to move the CSA server to the first node to be converted. 2. Yes, most definitely. We'll be the last system to be forced to migrate to FoxView. 3. Again, yes. Legacy historians work fine. 4. We did this as a Day 0 install, so we reboot the CPs anyway. It didn't make any difference to us if the CP images were new or not. Duc -- Duc M. Do Process Control Systems Dow Corning, Carrollton Plant Carrollton, KY, US -Original Message- From: James Kahlden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Hello List, We are looking at updating our version 4.3 system to version 6.2.1 in order to expand our system to include the new CP60. We currently use AW/WP51B's with Display Manager and the Legacy Historian. Our CP's are fault tolerant CP40A's. We have 5 nodes connected via Carrier Band LAN. We can not shut down all nodes at once, since this system controls two 600 megawatt coal fired power generators. Questions? 1. Do all of the nodes need to be converted at one time to 6.2.1 or can some nodes exist at 4.3 while part of the node is at 6.2.1? 2. Can we continue to use our Display Manager displays, or do we have to change to the Fox View displays? 3. Can we continue to use the Legacy Historian at version 6.2.1, or do we have to convert to the AIM historian? 4. Is there a different CP image at version 6.2.1 that requires a reboot of the CP for this upgrade? Thanks for any guidance that you can give, as we are looking to see what windows of opportunity we have for doing this type of upgrade. Jim Kahlden [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By
RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question
Perhaps FUBAR? -Original Message- From: Julie Monsour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 1:13 PM To: Foxboro DCS Mail List Subject: Re: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question hmmm...Well, maybe adventure was a poor choice for a word, then. - Original Message - From: Stear, Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:29 AM Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question According to Websters: Adventure (ad-ven'tur), n. an event the issue of which is determined by chance: v.t. to hazard or risk. Hmmm, risk, hazard, chance... gimme a break! -Original Message- From: Julie Monsour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:29 AM To: Foxboro DCS Mail List Subject: Re: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Where's your sense of adventure, Bo? Foxview is GREAT! Julie Monsour - Original Message - From: Stear, Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question It will be a dead heat as to whether you or we are the last to migrate to FoxView -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Jim, We did an upgrade like yours last year (with a slight difference, we went from 6.1 to 6.2.1 -- for all practical purposes, 4.3 and 6.1 are the same). Here are our take on your questions: 1. No, the nodes can be converted individually. Foxboro recommends that you upgrade the node where CSA resides first. Luckily it works out for us without having to move the CSA server to the first node to be converted. 2. Yes, most definitely. We'll be the last system to be forced to migrate to FoxView. 3. Again, yes. Legacy historians work fine. 4. We did this as a Day 0 install, so we reboot the CPs anyway. It didn't make any difference to us if the CP images were new or not. Duc -- Duc M. Do Process Control Systems Dow Corning, Carrollton Plant Carrollton, KY, US -Original Message- From: James Kahlden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Hello List, We are looking at updating our version 4.3 system to version 6.2.1 in order to expand our system to include the new CP60. We currently use AW/WP51B's with Display Manager and the Legacy Historian. Our CP's are fault tolerant CP40A's. We have 5 nodes connected via Carrier Band LAN. We can not shut down all nodes at once, since this system controls two 600 megawatt coal fired power generators. Questions? 1. Do all of the nodes need to be converted at one time to 6.2.1 or can some nodes exist at 4.3 while part of the node is at 6.2.1? 2. Can we continue to use our Display Manager displays, or do we have to change to the Fox View displays? 3. Can we continue to use the Legacy Historian at version 6.2.1, or do we have to convert to the AIM historian? 4. Is there a different CP image at version 6.2.1 that requires a reboot of the CP for this upgrade? Thanks for any guidance that you can give, as we are looking to see what windows of opportunity we have for doing this type of upgrade. Jim Kahlden [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor
RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question
That is, Foxboro Unconditionally Backs All Releases.. -Original Message- From: Julie Monsour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 1:13 PM To: Foxboro DCS Mail List Subject: Re: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question hmmm...Well, maybe adventure was a poor choice for a word, then. - Original Message - From: Stear, Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 10:29 AM Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question According to Websters: Adventure (ad-ven'tur), n. an event the issue of which is determined by chance: v.t. to hazard or risk. Hmmm, risk, hazard, chance... gimme a break! -Original Message- From: Julie Monsour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:29 AM To: Foxboro DCS Mail List Subject: Re: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Where's your sense of adventure, Bo? Foxview is GREAT! Julie Monsour - Original Message - From: Stear, Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question It will be a dead heat as to whether you or we are the last to migrate to FoxView -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Jim, We did an upgrade like yours last year (with a slight difference, we went from 6.1 to 6.2.1 -- for all practical purposes, 4.3 and 6.1 are the same). Here are our take on your questions: 1. No, the nodes can be converted individually. Foxboro recommends that you upgrade the node where CSA resides first. Luckily it works out for us without having to move the CSA server to the first node to be converted. 2. Yes, most definitely. We'll be the last system to be forced to migrate to FoxView. 3. Again, yes. Legacy historians work fine. 4. We did this as a Day 0 install, so we reboot the CPs anyway. It didn't make any difference to us if the CP images were new or not. Duc -- Duc M. Do Process Control Systems Dow Corning, Carrollton Plant Carrollton, KY, US -Original Message- From: James Kahlden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Hello List, We are looking at updating our version 4.3 system to version 6.2.1 in order to expand our system to include the new CP60. We currently use AW/WP51B's with Display Manager and the Legacy Historian. Our CP's are fault tolerant CP40A's. We have 5 nodes connected via Carrier Band LAN. We can not shut down all nodes at once, since this system controls two 600 megawatt coal fired power generators. Questions? 1. Do all of the nodes need to be converted at one time to 6.2.1 or can some nodes exist at 4.3 while part of the node is at 6.2.1? 2. Can we continue to use our Display Manager displays, or do we have to change to the Fox View displays? 3. Can we continue to use the Legacy Historian at version 6.2.1, or do we have to convert to the AIM historian? 4. Is there a different CP image at version 6.2.1 that requires a reboot of the CP for this upgrade? Thanks for any guidance that you can give, as we are looking to see what windows of opportunity we have for doing this type of upgrade. Jim Kahlden [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question
OK, my bad. I guess I was referring to the configurator document the most when I was trying to get up to speed on building DM graphics. But while we're on this topic, why aren't the configurator documents on the CD? Is the legacy DM/DBuilder being further enhanced, or is it frozen from a feature point of view (I assume bug fixes are still being incorporated)? And what is Foxboro's official position on the longevity of legacy DM? Corey Clingo Sr. Engineer BASF Corporation Johnson, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/21/2001 05:00:05 PM Please respond to Foxboro DCS Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Foxboro DCS Mail List Foxboro cc: Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Re: DM documentation is not available on the CD I'd like to clarify this statement. The K0173TQ-G - FoxDoc for V6.2.1 has the following in its table of contents: Display Builder (B0193AQ: Available in hard-copy only.) Display Builder for 50 Series Workstations (B0193MP: Available in hard-copy only.) Display Configurator for 20/30 Series Workstations (B0193AR) Display Configurator for 50 Series Workstations (B0193NL) Display Conventions Configurator (B0193CQ) Display Edit Utility (Help File) Display Engineering for 50 Series Workstations (B0193MQ) Display Engineering (Windows NT Operating System) (B0400MQ) Display Engineering Utilities (B0193WU) Display Manager Commands (B0193DF) Display Reporter and Connection Editor (B0193JN) While it is true that the configuration document is not available on the CD, the majority of these documents are specific to the DM. Regards, Alex Johnson 10707 Haddington Houston, TX 77043 713.722.2859 (office) 713.722.2700 (switchboard) 713.932.0222 (fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question
Re: But while we're on this topic, why aren't the configurator documents on the CD? I don't know. I suspect that it was never converted to HTML. I believe that a .pdf file does exist, but I'll have to check. Re: Is the legacy DM/DBuilder being further enhanced, or is it frozen from a feature point of view (I assume bug fixes are still being incorporated)? There are no enhancements to the Display Builder or Display Configurator product in the offing. Basically, FV is the enhanced DM. In fact, certain internal documents refer to it as the DM. Bug fixes are corrected and the software is ported to each release. [I wonder what the last actual correction was. That would be interesting to know. One would assume that a piece of software that is 15 years old would not be generating a large number of defect reports (as opposed to enhancements).] Re: And what is Foxboro's official position on the longevity of legacy DM? Official positions come from Marketing, but I have heard high level company management say in public that we will support all of the I/A Series HW and SW as long as anyone needs them. It boils down to we like our customers and we want to keep them happy. Regards, Alex Johnson 10707 Haddington Houston, TX 77043 713.722.2859 (office) 713.722.2700 (switchboard) 713.932.0222 (fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Corey R Clingo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 5:11 PM To: Foxboro DCS Mail List Subject:RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question OK, my bad. I guess I was referring to the configurator document the most when I was trying to get up to speed on building DM graphics. But while we're on this topic, why aren't the configurator documents on the CD? Is the legacy DM/DBuilder being further enhanced, or is it frozen from a feature point of view (I assume bug fixes are still being incorporated)? And what is Foxboro's official position on the longevity of legacy DM? Corey Clingo Sr. Engineer BASF Corporation Johnson, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/21/2001 05:00:05 PM Please respond to Foxboro DCS Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Foxboro DCS Mail List Foxboro cc: Subject: RE: Version 4.3 to 6.2.1 upgrade question Re: DM documentation is not available on the CD I'd like to clarify this statement. The K0173TQ-G - FoxDoc for V6.2.1 has the following in its table of contents: Display Builder (B0193AQ: Available in hard-copy only.) Display Builder for 50 Series Workstations (B0193MP: Available in hard-copy only.) Display Configurator for 20/30 Series Workstations (B0193AR) Display Configurator for 50 Series Workstations (B0193NL) Display Conventions Configurator (B0193CQ) Display Edit Utility (Help File) Display Engineering for 50 Series Workstations (B0193MQ) Display Engineering (Windows NT Operating System) (B0400MQ) Display Engineering Utilities (B0193WU) Display Manager Commands (B0193DF) Display Reporter and Connection Editor (B0193JN) While it is true that the configuration document is not available on the CD, the majority of these documents are specific to the DM. Regards, Alex Johnson 10707 Haddington Houston, TX 77043 713.722.2859 (office) 713.722.2700 (switchboard) 713.932.0222 (fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
