Re: [fpc-devel] KOL for WinCE

2007-02-10 Thread Bogusław Brandys

Yury Sidorov wrote:

Hello,

Finally I got time to port KOL to WinCE.
Project page at SourceForge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kol-ce/

Most things works. Report any bugs to tracker at SourceForge.
Empty form hello world application exe is only 44.5KB!

Yury Sidorov.


Nice.What about MCK for visual development ? I think that ability to 
compile under win32 (I have Delphi 5) then rebuild for WinCE would be 
wonderful.

What is missing to achieve it ?


Regards
Boguslaw
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Re: [fpc-devel] KOL for WinCE

2007-02-10 Thread Yury Sidorov

From: Bogusław Brandys [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yury Sidorov wrote:

Hello,

Finally I got time to port KOL to WinCE.
Project page at SourceForge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kol-ce/

Most things works. Report any bugs to tracker at SourceForge.
Empty form hello world application exe is only 44.5KB!

Yury Sidorov.


Nice.What about MCK for visual development ? I think that ability to compile under win32 (I have Delphi 5) then rebuild for WinCE 
would be wonderful.

What is missing to achieve it ?


It is possible already. Win32 MCK projects can be created in Delphi and 
recompiled for WinCE using FPC.
I will look at possibility to port MCK to Lazarus...

Yury Sidorov. 
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Re: [fpc-devel] KOL for WinCE

2007-02-10 Thread Bogusław Brandys

Yury Sidorov wrote:

From: Bogusław Brandys [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yury Sidorov wrote:

Hello,

Finally I got time to port KOL to WinCE.
Project page at SourceForge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kol-ce/

Most things works. Report any bugs to tracker at SourceForge.
Empty form hello world application exe is only 44.5KB!

Yury Sidorov.


Nice.What about MCK for visual development ? I think that ability to 
compile under win32 (I have Delphi 5) then rebuild for WinCE would be 
wonderful.

What is missing to achieve it ?


It is possible already. Win32 MCK projects can be created in Delphi and 
recompiled for WinCE using FPC.


That's great.


I will look at possibility to port MCK to Lazarus...


I would like to see rather a new KOL widgetset for Lazarus,but I don't 
know how to implement such and don't  break KOL feature - small exe size.


Thank you.
Boguslaw Brandys

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Re: [fpc-devel] KOL for WinCE

2007-02-10 Thread Daniël Mantione


Op Sat, 10 Feb 2007, schreef Bogus?aw Brandys:

  I will look at possibility to port MCK to Lazarus...
 
 I would like to see rather a new KOL widgetset for Lazarus,but I don't know
 how to implement such and don't  break KOL feature - small exe size.

The principle behind RAD the design is that the framework can set up an 
object hierarchy as designed in the IDE. The Lazarus/Delphi approach is to 
store the properties in resource, then load and construct the objects 
using runtime type information.

The has some consequences for the exe size. Of course RTTI is always in. 
But also, all properties in a component are always used (the compiler 
doesn't know what is in the resource file). So, a lot of code ends up in 
the executable.

Therefore, I believe RAD with KOL will remain a dream. Make the LCL 
smaller, there are probably some opportunities to do so.

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