Re: [fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-11 Thread pineal
On Monday 11 June 2007 10:46, Joost van der Sluis wrote:
> > I did extract the source tar from the source rpm, but I don't know where
> > it should be installed. Previously fpcsrc was installed in
> > /usr/share/fpcsrc, if that is now different, shouldn't a change such as
> > this be documented?
>
> You're confusing the RPM with the fpc-sources provided by Lazarus.
> Normally there's no need for the sources, only Lazarus uses them. So the
> Lazarus-team made a RPM with the fpc-sources in /usr/share/fpcsrc. This
> rpm are also provided for several distributions, like Fedora.
>
> But those rpm's are not available on the freepascal-website, as they are
> not provided by the fpc-team.
>
> Joost.

OK, thanks for the clarification.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-11 Thread pineal
On Monday 11 June 2007 07:32, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, pineal wrote:
> > On Sunday 10 June 2007 18:13, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
> > > > *But*, please note when I stated nothing was installed from the
> > > > source rpm file, it did not get put somewhere else,  *nothing* was
> > > > installed!
> > >
> > > Nevertheless the package file is correct and contains the sources:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ftp/beta/2.1.4/i386-linux/rpm$ rpm -q -p
> > > fpc-2.1.4-0.src.rpm -l fpc-2.1.4-src.tar.gz
> > > fpc-2.1.4.spec
> >
> > I agree the rpm does contain those.
> >
> > > So either something went wrong when you installed it (disk space ?),
> >
> > No it didn't! Nothing went wrong, no error was reported and the package
> > contents were not installed, anywhere.
> >
> > > , or
> > > It was installed in a strange location.
> >
> > Sure, like someone else's computer. ;)
> >
> > > Michael.
> >
> > Micheal, I'm not trying to have an argument or be funny, please just
> > accept the fact that the rpm does not work on my system.
>
> Yes, of course: I'm just trying to analyse why it would not work ?
> The rpm itself seems fine ?
>
> Michael.

Hi Micheal,

I now have everything installed and my Lazarus compiles with a GTK2 ide, 
Great! Alas my zeos components will not compile though.

I have had another look at the source rpm and during the installation part, 
there are a couple of messages about "user 'Joost' (IIRC) is not available, 
using root." and there is one other user name with the same message. The 
install process completes and returns a successful completion code.

If I then check the list of files installed, the two source files already 
named are both listed, but with a big question mark before their names *where 
the path name should be*, i.e. they went nowhere. 

hth

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Re: [fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-10 Thread pineal
On Sunday 10 June 2007 18:13, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
> > *But*, please note when I stated nothing was installed from the source
> > rpm file, it did not get put somewhere else,  *nothing* was installed!
>
> Nevertheless the package file is correct and contains the sources:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ftp/beta/2.1.4/i386-linux/rpm$ rpm -q -p 
> fpc-2.1.4-0.src.rpm
> -l fpc-2.1.4-src.tar.gz
> fpc-2.1.4.spec

I agree the rpm does contain those.

>
> So either something went wrong when you installed it (disk space ?),

No it didn't! Nothing went wrong, no error was reported and the package 
contents were not installed, anywhere.

> , or 
> It was installed in a strange location.

Sure, like someone else's computer. ;)

>
> Michael.

Micheal, I'm not trying to have an argument or be funny, please just accept 
the fact that the rpm does not work on my system.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-10 Thread pineal
On Sunday 10 June 2007 13:20, Daniël Mantione wrote:
> Op Sun, 10 Jun 2007, schreef pineal:
> > On Sunday 10 June 2007 10:15, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
> > > > I have spent the whole afternoon trying to install fpc. :(
> > > >
> > > > First I downloaded the .rpm files. The compiler and docs install fine
> > > > but the source doesn't install anything and there is no error or
> > > > warning.
> > >
> > > The source RPM installs an archive file in /usr/src/packages/SOURCES
> > > you must unpack this archive yourself. This is standard behaviour for
> > > RPM.
> >
> > No it doesn't. That's why I stated the source doesn't install anything.
> > Due to the problems I looked in the install script and found a reference
> > to /src (which I guessed is appended to the main install dir /usr) and
> > looked there too, but nothing is installed. There is no packages
> > directory created.
>
> /usr/src/packages/SOURCES should already exist. If it doesn't your system
> uses a non standard RPM location; you will find the source in this non
> standard location in such case.
>
> > > That is because it does not install the sources. The .tar.gz does not
> > > contain the sources: it would more than double the size. The sources
> > > are available as a separate download.
> > >
> > > Michael.
> >
> > According to the downloads page the .tar is one big file with "everything
> > in 1 big package", or the other options are .rpm files. There is no tar
> > for just the sources.
>
> On http://www.freepascal.org/download.var, there is a link to the sources
> download, and yes, it is a tar.
>
> > I did extract the source tar from the source rpm, but I don't know where
> > it should be installed. Previously fpcsrc was installed in
> > /usr/share/fpcsrc, if that is now different, shouldn't a change such as
> > this be documented?
>
> Install it wherever you like, the compiler doesn't look for the sources
> during normal operation. I suggest $HOME/fpcsource.
>
> Daniël

Hi Daniel,

OK, I finally found the src tar mentioned and it contains everything by the 
looks of it, including an install script so I shall remove everything so far 
and try a fresh install from this. 

*But*, please note when I stated nothing was installed from the source rpm 
file, it did not get put somewhere else,  *nothing* was installed! 

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Re: [fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-10 Thread pineal
On Sunday 10 June 2007 10:15, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
> >
> > I have spent the whole afternoon trying to install fpc. :(
> >
> > First I downloaded the .rpm files. The compiler and docs install fine but
> > the source doesn't install anything and there is no error or warning.
>
> The source RPM installs an archive file in /usr/src/packages/SOURCES
> you must unpack this archive yourself. This is standard behaviour for RPM.
>

No it doesn't. That's why I stated the source doesn't install anything. Due to 
the problems I looked in the install script and found a reference to /src 
(which I guessed is appended to the main install dir /usr) and looked there 
too, but nothing is installed. There is no packages directory created.

> > So I tried the same source rpm from a different mirror with the same
> > result.
> >
> > So I removed those, downloaded the new 2.1.4a archive, unpacked it  and
> > ran the install script (which I had to interrupt and run a second time as
> > root) which ran without showing an error and yet I still have no source
> > installed.
>
> That is because it does not install the sources. The .tar.gz does not
> contain the sources: it would more than double the size. The sources
> are available as a separate download.
>
> Michael.

According to the downloads page the .tar is one big file with "everything in 1 
big package", or the other options are .rpm files. There is no tar for just 
the sources.

I did extract the source tar from the source rpm, but I don't know where it 
should be installed. Previously fpcsrc was installed in /usr/share/fpcsrc, if 
that is now different, shouldn't a change such as this be documented?

neal.
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Re: [fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-09 Thread pineal
On Friday 08 June 2007 18:46, Daniël Mantione wrote:
> Op Fri, 8 Jun 2007, schreef pineal:
> > I have downloaded a tar archive,
> >
> > fpc-2.1.4.i386-linux.tar
> >
> > there are no install instructions that I can find. Can anyone give me
> > some guidance or perhaps a link.
>
> Please a look at the earlier e-mail today about the rebuild of this
> release.
>
> The instructions are right next to the download link on the website:
> "After untarring the archive into a temporary location, you can run the
> install script by issuing the command "sh install.sh".
>
> So:
> * Open a terinal.
> * Untar the file, i.e. type "tar xvzf fpc-2.1.4.i386-linux.tar".
> * Type "sh install.sh".
>
> Daniël

Hi Daniel,

I have spent the whole afternoon trying to install fpc. :(

First I downloaded the .rpm files. The compiler and docs install fine but the 
source doesn't install anything and there is no error or warning. 

So I tried the same source rpm from a different mirror with the same result.

So I removed those, downloaded the new 2.1.4a archive, unpacked it  and ran 
the install script (which I had to interrupt and run a second time as root) 
which ran without showing an error and yet I still have no source installed. 

any ideas please?

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Re: [fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-08 Thread pineal
On Friday 08 June 2007 19:46, Daniël Mantione wrote:
> Op Fri, 8 Jun 2007, schreef pineal:
> > I have downloaded a tar archive,
> >
> > fpc-2.1.4.i386-linux.tar
> >
> > there are no install instructions that I can find. Can anyone give me
> > some guidance or perhaps a link.
>
> Please a look at the earlier e-mail today about the rebuild of this
> release.
>
> The instructions are right next to the download link on the website:
> "After untarring the archive into a temporary location, you can run the
> install script by issuing the command "sh install.sh".
>
> So:
> * Open a terinal.
> * Untar the file, i.e. type "tar xvzf fpc-2.1.4.i386-linux.tar".
> * Type "sh install.sh".
>
> Daniël

Thanks Daniel,

bearing in mind the rebuild I'll download that and check instructions too. 

neal.
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[fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-08 Thread pineal

I have downloaded a tar archive, 

fpc-2.1.4.i386-linux.tar

there are no install instructions that I can find. Can anyone give me some 
guidance or perhaps a link.

thanks

neal.
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