[fpc-pascal] Re: Accessing USB HID from Lazarus programs?

2011-03-21 Thread Lukasz Sokol
On 20/03/2011 22:53, Bo Berglund wrote:
 On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:47:28 +, Henry Vermaak
 henry.verm...@gmail.com wrote:
 What you seen hidapi?

 http://www.signal11.us/oss/hidapi/

 You will probably have to translate the headers.
 
 Thanks, interesting read. I looked over what I thought would be the
 valid items and also tested the included enumeration test project,
 which found my keyboard, mouse and Microchip PicKit3 programmer.
 So far so good
 
 But it looks like this is C or C++ stuff :-(
 Is there any FPC translation anywhere?
 I don't believe I can translate the C stuff properly myself to FPC.
 
 

In Turbo Delphi I have successfully used the headers found in JEDI project.
They're very Windows specific thou, as it captures system messages fwd to forms.
Haven't tried to use in Lazarus or multi-platform yet.

L.


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Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Accessing USB HID from Lazarus programs?

2011-03-21 Thread Sven Barth

Am 20.03.2011 23:53, schrieb Bo Berglund:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:47:28 +, Henry Vermaak
henry.verm...@gmail.com  wrote:


On 20 March 2011 16:35, Bo Berglundbo.bergl...@gmail.com  wrote:

I need to create a program using Lazarus/FPC to access a data
collection device built using a PIC24F series microprocessor with
built-in USB support. The firmware makes the PIC processor register as
a Human Interface Device (HID) class USB device.

I understand that for the HID class one does not have to provide a USB
driver, there is already a generic one on Windows and possibly also on
Linux.
And the HID interface is not limited to mice and such, for example the
PicKit3 PIC programmer and ICE uses the HID driver and it can both
program code into PIC:s and execute PIC code with breakpoints from
within MPLAB (the PIC develeopment IDE).

My objective is to read the data from the data collection device using
the USB interface and display the data on screen and also save to the
PC disk.
My FPC program should be able to run on Windows and preferably also on
Linux.

But I can't find any good examples on how to access the USB HID
device


What you seen hidapi?

http://www.signal11.us/oss/hidapi/

You will probably have to translate the headers.


Thanks, interesting read. I looked over what I thought would be the
valid items and also tested the included enumeration test project,
which found my keyboard, mouse and Microchip PicKit3 programmer.
So far so good

But it looks like this is C or C++ stuff :-(
Is there any FPC translation anywhere?
I don't believe I can translate the C stuff properly myself to FPC.




You can try to use h2pas, a tool which is distributed together with FPC. 
It reads a C header file and outputs a Pascal file that contains the 
bindings for the C library.


For the manual see here:
http://www.freepascal.org/tools/h2pas.var

For a little how to see here:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Creating_bindings_for_C_libraries

If it reports errors you should report back here as not every C 
construct is understood by the tool.


Regards,
Sven
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Accessing USB HID from Lazarus programs?

2011-03-21 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Bo Berglund said:
 I posted this on the lazarus list but they suggested to send it to the
 FPC list instead in order to possibly get better answers...

While I use dspic33F now, that is exclusively with serial. (232/422). In the
past I did use USB though with PIC18, and the microchip USB SDK had a delphi
example for that?

So I would check if pic18 and pic24  USB kits use the same dlls on the PC
side, and then use the headers and example from the SDK.
 
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[fpc-pascal] Re: Accessing USB HID from Lazarus programs?

2011-03-21 Thread Bo Berglund
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 08:55:44 +, Mark Morgan Lloyd
markmll.fpc-pas...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:


I'm accessing a Velleman K8055, which I think fits your description, 
using libusb etc. I used Uwe Zimmerman's port of libusb 
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Hardware_Access#USB with very minor 
changes, I used some C sources as examples but can't remember which- 
possibly http://libk8055.sourceforge.net/

On the page it says:

libusb
A cross platform possibility for Linux, BSDs and Mac OS X is libusb

Does this mean it won't work on Windows?

I can't test right now cause I am travelling today.


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Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Accessing USB HID from Lazarus programs?

2011-03-21 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd

Bo Berglund wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 08:55:44 +, Mark Morgan Lloyd
markmll.fpc-pas...@telemetry.co.uk wrote:

I'm accessing a Velleman K8055, which I think fits your description, 
using libusb etc. I used Uwe Zimmerman's port of libusb 
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Hardware_Access#USB with very minor 
changes, I used some C sources as examples but can't remember which- 
possibly http://libk8055.sourceforge.net/


On the page it says:

libusb
A cross platform possibility for Linux, BSDs and Mac OS X is libusb

Does this mean it won't work on Windows?


There's a port of libusb for Windows. I half-heartedly tried my code a 
couple of years ago against NT with the Edgeport USB stack but it failed 
due to a missing kernel call, I've not tried it with a newer version of 
Windows (i.e. one with the WDM) but I'd suggest it would be worth 
investigating.


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markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk

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[fpc-pascal] Re: Accessing USB HID from Lazarus programs?

2011-03-20 Thread Bo Berglund
I posted this on the lazarus list but they suggested to send it to the
FPC list instead in order to possibly get better answers...

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:04:28 -0500, Bo Berglund
bo.bergl...@gmail.com wrote:

I need to create a program using Lazarus/FPC to access a data
collection device built using a PIC24F series microprocessor with
built-in USB support. The firmware makes the PIC processor register as
a Human Interface Device (HID) class USB device.

I understand that for the HID class one does not have to provide a USB
driver, there is already a generic one on Windows and possibly also on
Linux.
And the HID interface is not limited to mice and such, for example the
PicKit3 PIC programmer and ICE uses the HID driver and it can both
program code into PIC:s and execute PIC code with breakpoints from
within MPLAB (the PIC develeopment IDE).

My objective is to read the data from the data collection device using
the USB interface and display the data on screen and also save to the
PC disk.
My FPC program should be able to run on Windows and preferably also on
Linux.

But I can't find any good examples on how to access the USB HID
device

Can someone here please provide some help, links to code examples or
similar?

Or is this OT for this list since it is basically a hardware access
question?



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Developer in Sweden

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Re: [fpc-pascal] Re: Accessing USB HID from Lazarus programs?

2011-03-20 Thread Henry Vermaak
On 20 March 2011 16:35, Bo Berglund bo.bergl...@gmail.com wrote:
I need to create a program using Lazarus/FPC to access a data
collection device built using a PIC24F series microprocessor with
built-in USB support. The firmware makes the PIC processor register as
a Human Interface Device (HID) class USB device.

I understand that for the HID class one does not have to provide a USB
driver, there is already a generic one on Windows and possibly also on
Linux.
And the HID interface is not limited to mice and such, for example the
PicKit3 PIC programmer and ICE uses the HID driver and it can both
program code into PIC:s and execute PIC code with breakpoints from
within MPLAB (the PIC develeopment IDE).

My objective is to read the data from the data collection device using
the USB interface and display the data on screen and also save to the
PC disk.
My FPC program should be able to run on Windows and preferably also on
Linux.

But I can't find any good examples on how to access the USB HID
device

What you seen hidapi?

http://www.signal11.us/oss/hidapi/

You will probably have to translate the headers.

Henry
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[fpc-pascal] Re: Accessing USB HID from Lazarus programs?

2011-03-20 Thread Bo Berglund
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:47:28 +, Henry Vermaak
henry.verm...@gmail.com wrote:

On 20 March 2011 16:35, Bo Berglund bo.bergl...@gmail.com wrote:
I need to create a program using Lazarus/FPC to access a data
collection device built using a PIC24F series microprocessor with
built-in USB support. The firmware makes the PIC processor register as
a Human Interface Device (HID) class USB device.

I understand that for the HID class one does not have to provide a USB
driver, there is already a generic one on Windows and possibly also on
Linux.
And the HID interface is not limited to mice and such, for example the
PicKit3 PIC programmer and ICE uses the HID driver and it can both
program code into PIC:s and execute PIC code with breakpoints from
within MPLAB (the PIC develeopment IDE).

My objective is to read the data from the data collection device using
the USB interface and display the data on screen and also save to the
PC disk.
My FPC program should be able to run on Windows and preferably also on
Linux.

But I can't find any good examples on how to access the USB HID
device

What you seen hidapi?

http://www.signal11.us/oss/hidapi/

You will probably have to translate the headers.

Thanks, interesting read. I looked over what I thought would be the
valid items and also tested the included enumeration test project,
which found my keyboard, mouse and Microchip PicKit3 programmer.
So far so good

But it looks like this is C or C++ stuff :-(
Is there any FPC translation anywhere?
I don't believe I can translate the C stuff properly myself to FPC.


-- 
Bo Berglund
Developer in Sweden

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