Re: [fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-11 Thread Joost van der Sluis
On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 13:51 +, pineal wrote:
 On Sunday 10 June 2007 10:15, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
  
   I have spent the whole afternoon trying to install fpc. :(
  
   First I downloaded the .rpm files. The compiler and docs install fine but
   the source doesn't install anything and there is no error or warning.
 
  The source RPM installs an archive file in /usr/src/packages/SOURCES
  you must unpack this archive yourself. This is standard behaviour for RPM.
 
 
 No it doesn't. That's why I stated the source doesn't install anything. Due 
 to 
 the problems I looked in the install script and found a reference to /src 
 (which I guessed is appended to the main install dir /usr) and looked there 
 too, but nothing is installed. There is no packages directory created.
 
   So I tried the same source rpm from a different mirror with the same
   result.
  
   So I removed those, downloaded the new 2.1.4a archive, unpacked it  and
   ran the install script (which I had to interrupt and run a second time as
   root) which ran without showing an error and yet I still have no source
   installed.
 
  That is because it does not install the sources. The .tar.gz does not
  contain the sources: it would more than double the size. The sources
  are available as a separate download.
 
  Michael.
 
 According to the downloads page the .tar is one big file with everything in 
 1 
 big package, or the other options are .rpm files. There is no tar for just 
 the sources.
 
 I did extract the source tar from the source rpm, but I don't know where it 
 should be installed. Previously fpcsrc was installed in /usr/share/fpcsrc, if 
 that is now different, shouldn't a change such as this be documented?

You're confusing the RPM with the fpc-sources provided by Lazarus.
Normally there's no need for the sources, only Lazarus uses them. So the
Lazarus-team made a RPM with the fpc-sources in /usr/share/fpcsrc. This
rpm are also provided for several distributions, like Fedora. 

But those rpm's are not available on the freepascal-website, as they are
not provided by the fpc-team.

Joost.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-11 Thread pineal
On Monday 11 June 2007 10:46, Joost van der Sluis wrote:
  I did extract the source tar from the source rpm, but I don't know where
  it should be installed. Previously fpcsrc was installed in
  /usr/share/fpcsrc, if that is now different, shouldn't a change such as
  this be documented?

 You're confusing the RPM with the fpc-sources provided by Lazarus.
 Normally there's no need for the sources, only Lazarus uses them. So the
 Lazarus-team made a RPM with the fpc-sources in /usr/share/fpcsrc. This
 rpm are also provided for several distributions, like Fedora.

 But those rpm's are not available on the freepascal-website, as they are
 not provided by the fpc-team.

 Joost.

OK, thanks for the clarification.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-10 Thread Michael Van Canneyt


On Sat, 9 Jun 2007, pineal wrote:

 On Friday 08 June 2007 18:46, Daniël Mantione wrote:
  Op Fri, 8 Jun 2007, schreef pineal:
   I have downloaded a tar archive,
  
   fpc-2.1.4.i386-linux.tar
  
   there are no install instructions that I can find. Can anyone give me
   some guidance or perhaps a link.
 
  Please a look at the earlier e-mail today about the rebuild of this
  release.
 
  The instructions are right next to the download link on the website:
  After untarring the archive into a temporary location, you can run the
  install script by issuing the command sh install.sh.
 
  So:
  * Open a terinal.
  * Untar the file, i.e. type tar xvzf fpc-2.1.4.i386-linux.tar.
  * Type sh install.sh.
 
  Daniël
 
 Hi Daniel,
 
 I have spent the whole afternoon trying to install fpc. :(
 
 First I downloaded the .rpm files. The compiler and docs install fine but the 
 source doesn't install anything and there is no error or warning. 

The source RPM installs an archive file in /usr/src/packages/SOURCES 
you must unpack this archive yourself. This is standard behaviour for RPM.

 
 So I tried the same source rpm from a different mirror with the same result.
 
 So I removed those, downloaded the new 2.1.4a archive, unpacked it  and ran 
 the install script (which I had to interrupt and run a second time as root) 
 which ran without showing an error and yet I still have no source installed. 

That is because it does not install the sources. The .tar.gz does not
contain the sources: it would more than double the size. The sources
are available as a separate download.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-10 Thread Daniël Mantione


Op Sun, 10 Jun 2007, schreef pineal:

 On Sunday 10 June 2007 10:15, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
  
   I have spent the whole afternoon trying to install fpc. :(
  
   First I downloaded the .rpm files. The compiler and docs install fine but
   the source doesn't install anything and there is no error or warning.
 
  The source RPM installs an archive file in /usr/src/packages/SOURCES
  you must unpack this archive yourself. This is standard behaviour for RPM.
 
 
 No it doesn't. That's why I stated the source doesn't install anything. Due 
 to 
 the problems I looked in the install script and found a reference to /src 
 (which I guessed is appended to the main install dir /usr) and looked there 
 too, but nothing is installed. There is no packages directory created.

/usr/src/packages/SOURCES should already exist. If it doesn't your system 
uses a non standard RPM location; you will find the source in this non 
standard location in such case.

  That is because it does not install the sources. The .tar.gz does not
  contain the sources: it would more than double the size. The sources
  are available as a separate download.
 
  Michael.
 
 According to the downloads page the .tar is one big file with everything in 
 1 
 big package, or the other options are .rpm files. There is no tar for just 
 the sources.

On http://www.freepascal.org/download.var, there is a link to the sources 
download, and yes, it is a tar.
 
 I did extract the source tar from the source rpm, but I don't know where it 
 should be installed. Previously fpcsrc was installed in /usr/share/fpcsrc, if 
 that is now different, shouldn't a change such as this be documented?

Install it wherever you like, the compiler doesn't look for the sources 
during normal operation. I suggest $HOME/fpcsource.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-10 Thread pineal
On Sunday 10 June 2007 13:20, Daniël Mantione wrote:
 Op Sun, 10 Jun 2007, schreef pineal:
  On Sunday 10 June 2007 10:15, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
I have spent the whole afternoon trying to install fpc. :(
   
First I downloaded the .rpm files. The compiler and docs install fine
but the source doesn't install anything and there is no error or
warning.
  
   The source RPM installs an archive file in /usr/src/packages/SOURCES
   you must unpack this archive yourself. This is standard behaviour for
   RPM.
 
  No it doesn't. That's why I stated the source doesn't install anything.
  Due to the problems I looked in the install script and found a reference
  to /src (which I guessed is appended to the main install dir /usr) and
  looked there too, but nothing is installed. There is no packages
  directory created.

 /usr/src/packages/SOURCES should already exist. If it doesn't your system
 uses a non standard RPM location; you will find the source in this non
 standard location in such case.

   That is because it does not install the sources. The .tar.gz does not
   contain the sources: it would more than double the size. The sources
   are available as a separate download.
  
   Michael.
 
  According to the downloads page the .tar is one big file with everything
  in 1 big package, or the other options are .rpm files. There is no tar
  for just the sources.

 On http://www.freepascal.org/download.var, there is a link to the sources
 download, and yes, it is a tar.

  I did extract the source tar from the source rpm, but I don't know where
  it should be installed. Previously fpcsrc was installed in
  /usr/share/fpcsrc, if that is now different, shouldn't a change such as
  this be documented?

 Install it wherever you like, the compiler doesn't look for the sources
 during normal operation. I suggest $HOME/fpcsource.

 Daniël

Hi Daniel,

OK, I finally found the src tar mentioned and it contains everything by the 
looks of it, including an install script so I shall remove everything so far 
and try a fresh install from this. 

*But*, please note when I stated nothing was installed from the source rpm 
file, it did not get put somewhere else,  *nothing* was installed! 

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Re: [fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-10 Thread Michael Van Canneyt


On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, pineal wrote:

 On Sunday 10 June 2007 13:20, Daniël Mantione wrote:
  Op Sun, 10 Jun 2007, schreef pineal:
   On Sunday 10 June 2007 10:15, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
 I have spent the whole afternoon trying to install fpc. :(

 First I downloaded the .rpm files. The compiler and docs install fine
 but the source doesn't install anything and there is no error or
 warning.
   
The source RPM installs an archive file in /usr/src/packages/SOURCES
you must unpack this archive yourself. This is standard behaviour for
RPM.
  
   No it doesn't. That's why I stated the source doesn't install anything.
   Due to the problems I looked in the install script and found a reference
   to /src (which I guessed is appended to the main install dir /usr) and
   looked there too, but nothing is installed. There is no packages
   directory created.
 
  /usr/src/packages/SOURCES should already exist. If it doesn't your system
  uses a non standard RPM location; you will find the source in this non
  standard location in such case.
 
That is because it does not install the sources. The .tar.gz does not
contain the sources: it would more than double the size. The sources
are available as a separate download.
   
Michael.
  
   According to the downloads page the .tar is one big file with everything
   in 1 big package, or the other options are .rpm files. There is no tar
   for just the sources.
 
  On http://www.freepascal.org/download.var, there is a link to the sources
  download, and yes, it is a tar.
 
   I did extract the source tar from the source rpm, but I don't know where
   it should be installed. Previously fpcsrc was installed in
   /usr/share/fpcsrc, if that is now different, shouldn't a change such as
   this be documented?
 
  Install it wherever you like, the compiler doesn't look for the sources
  during normal operation. I suggest $HOME/fpcsource.
 
  Daniël
 
 Hi Daniel,
 
 OK, I finally found the src tar mentioned and it contains everything by the 
 looks of it, including an install script so I shall remove everything so far 
 and try a fresh install from this. 
 
 *But*, please note when I stated nothing was installed from the source rpm 
 file, it did not get put somewhere else,  *nothing* was installed! 

Nevertheless the package file is correct and contains the sources:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ftp/beta/2.1.4/i386-linux/rpm$ rpm -q -p 
fpc-2.1.4-0.src.rpm -l
fpc-2.1.4-src.tar.gz
fpc-2.1.4.spec

So either something went wrong when you installed it (disk space ?), or
It was installed in a strange location.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-09 Thread pineal
On Friday 08 June 2007 18:46, Daniël Mantione wrote:
 Op Fri, 8 Jun 2007, schreef pineal:
  I have downloaded a tar archive,
 
  fpc-2.1.4.i386-linux.tar
 
  there are no install instructions that I can find. Can anyone give me
  some guidance or perhaps a link.

 Please a look at the earlier e-mail today about the rebuild of this
 release.

 The instructions are right next to the download link on the website:
 After untarring the archive into a temporary location, you can run the
 install script by issuing the command sh install.sh.

 So:
 * Open a terinal.
 * Untar the file, i.e. type tar xvzf fpc-2.1.4.i386-linux.tar.
 * Type sh install.sh.

 Daniël

Hi Daniel,

I have spent the whole afternoon trying to install fpc. :(

First I downloaded the .rpm files. The compiler and docs install fine but the 
source doesn't install anything and there is no error or warning. 

So I tried the same source rpm from a different mirror with the same result.

So I removed those, downloaded the new 2.1.4a archive, unpacked it  and ran 
the install script (which I had to interrupt and run a second time as root) 
which ran without showing an error and yet I still have no source installed. 

any ideas please?

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[fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-08 Thread pineal

I have downloaded a tar archive, 

fpc-2.1.4.i386-linux.tar

there are no install instructions that I can find. Can anyone give me some 
guidance or perhaps a link.

thanks

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Re: [fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-08 Thread Daniël Mantione


Op Fri, 8 Jun 2007, schreef pineal:

 
 I have downloaded a tar archive, 
 
 fpc-2.1.4.i386-linux.tar
 
 there are no install instructions that I can find. Can anyone give me some 
 guidance or perhaps a link.

Please a look at the earlier e-mail today about the rebuild of this 
release.

The instructions are right next to the download link on the website:
After untarring the archive into a temporary location, you can run the 
install script by issuing the command sh install.sh.

So:
* Open a terinal.
* Untar the file, i.e. type tar xvzf fpc-2.1.4.i386-linux.tar.
* Type sh install.sh.

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Re: [fpc-pascal] installing latest stable

2007-06-08 Thread pineal
On Friday 08 June 2007 19:46, Daniël Mantione wrote:
 Op Fri, 8 Jun 2007, schreef pineal:
  I have downloaded a tar archive,
 
  fpc-2.1.4.i386-linux.tar
 
  there are no install instructions that I can find. Can anyone give me
  some guidance or perhaps a link.

 Please a look at the earlier e-mail today about the rebuild of this
 release.

 The instructions are right next to the download link on the website:
 After untarring the archive into a temporary location, you can run the
 install script by issuing the command sh install.sh.

 So:
 * Open a terinal.
 * Untar the file, i.e. type tar xvzf fpc-2.1.4.i386-linux.tar.
 * Type sh install.sh.

 Daniël

Thanks Daniel,

bearing in mind the rebuild I'll download that and check instructions too. 

neal.
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