Re: OS X PDF creation

[Steve Rickaby]

At 9:38 am -0800 12/1/06, William Herr wrote:

I just discovered the Folder Actions capability. This lets you assign a
canned script to a folder. One of those is convert Postscript to pdf.

Does anyone use this routinely?

If it is robust then for a basic author like me, why do I need acrobat?

This script likely uses the PDF rendered built into the Quartz engine, or 
wherever. Apple don't claim that this creates publication-quality PDFs, and 
indeed it does not. However, if you only need to achieve on-screen legibility 
for circulation of reports, etc., it may well be suitable for your needs. You 
can achieve the same thing by 'printing to PDF' from any OS X-native app - the 
PDF renderer is accessible from the print dialog - although of course this does 
not apply to Mac FrameMaker.

One can see why Adobe may be losing motivation to support OS X. Now if just
Pages could grow up quickly - but I know this is a pipe dream.

Yes, and will likely remain so. Apple's built-in apps aren't trying to hit the 
professional market. That's not to say that they might not create a pro 
documentation app at some point, but I'm not putting my money on it.
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Re: Conditional Text in structured documents?

[Steve Rickaby]

At 4:32 pm +0100 12/1/06, Jakob Fix wrote:

I want authors to be able to add comments that will not show up in the
final printed document, but which can be exploited elsewhere, say, in
the online version. Conditional Text seems to be created for this
exact purpose. ...
Testing this out, I could indeed hide the text inside the element, but
not the element itself, i.e. if the comment occupied one line, hiding
it now showed one empty line, whereas I'd like to not even see that
empty space.

The first time I read this, I didn't notice the word 'element', and assumed 
that Jakob's problem was merely because he was applying the conditional tag to 
the comment text but not to the comment paragraph's trailing paragraph marker - 
which would have the effect he describes.

Is this true, that an element cannot be made conditional? It's inelegant, and 
I've not tried it, but how about making the comment element an inline? But if 
your comments are not true comments, but in fact conditional blocks of text 
that you want to use in some single-source set-up for print vs. on-line, it 
sounds as if you might need a more comprehensive solution, such as Mif2Go (if 
it works with structure - not sure), or, as suggested, Sourcerer.
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Re: OT: Word to PDF

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Since no Acrobat guru has responded, maybe I should add my 2cents.

Sometimes PDF995 (www.pdf995.com) has worked where Acrobat has failed.

Bodvar

On 1/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Since we are blessed to have so many acrobat gurus on this list:

 Windows XP
 Adobe Acrobat Professional 6.0
 MS Word 2002

 Inherited a Word doc with 143 pages, 2.99 MB that I need to convert to
 PDF. I have done a Save As and renamed to preserve the original and ensure
 that I know it is a Word 2002 doc that I am working with. I have done
 everything I know in my power to get this sucker to convert to a PDF
 -Wwithin Word using both PDFMaker and the Adobe PDF Printer. I have also
 tried from within Adobe Acrobat and no matter what I do, barf, crash, bang
 . ..  I cannot get this document to convert. I get the classic error
 message about flushing offending stack and not producing the PDF.

 What should I be looking for/troubleshooting in this otherwise fruitless
 endeavor?

 Thanks!

 TVB

 Tammy Van Boening
 Senior Technical Writer
 Aviation Courseware Development
 Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
 303-328-4420
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Bleeds and a FrameMaker graphics oddity

[Steve Rickaby]

I've been trying to set up a bleed margin on a rectangular graphical ornament 
on the master page. The visual appearance of the ornament is required to be a 
.25 point rule 'flush' with the page edge. (Uh-huh). Thought someone might be 
interested in the problem and one possible solution...

Try this: on a master page, use the graphics tools to draw a rectangle. Now use 
the nudge keys to nudge it off the right-hand side of the page. No problem.

Now try the same thing with a horizontal line: no problem.

Now try it with a vertical line. Uh? Seems like FrameMaker's coded so that a 
graphic object is not allowed to be made invisible by moving it completely off 
the visible page. Makes sense, I guess, *but the rule is applied even if the 
object being made 'invisible' is part of a group*. This means that it's 
impossible to set up a bleed area for a rectangular ornament by grouping a 
thick line with the right-hand edge of the thin rectangle.

Workaround A: create a solid rectangle, then mask it with a white rectangle to 
leave the required borders, and nudge it off the page edge? Nope: this doesn't 
work with other solid color on the page, as a transparent object is required.

Workaround B: create the rectangle by grouping four lines of differing 
thicknesses? Nope: fails the 'object cannot be made invisible even if part of a 
group' rule.

Workaround C: try the same sort of thing with graphics boxes with solid 
borders. Fails for more or less the same reasons - an object cannot be made 
completely invisible.

Workaround D: create the required graphical object elsewhere and import it into 
the master page. Bingo! An anchored frame in a text frame can be nudged off the 
visible page, therefore so can its contents. This allows precise positioning of 
the imported object, even if some of it is off the page edge.
-- 
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Re: structapps file in FM 7.2

[Yves Barbion]

Hello Wim,

This problem seems to occur in European versions of FrameMaker 7.2 only.

Indeed, the structapps.fm file in C:\Program 
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\Structure is empty. But if you do a Search in 
the subfolders, you will find 4 more structapps.fm files. You can use 
one of those, and, if you wish, copy it to the C:\Program 
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\Structure folder. These structapps.fm also 
contain the DITA application.


Good luck and best regards

Yves Barbion 
Technical Writer

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Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware) wrote:


hello,

after installing FM 7.2 I can't find the proper structapps file - only an empty 
one. I remember seeing postings on the list concerning this issue, what was the 
cause and solution?


Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DTP and XML Management

Scriptware bv http://www.scriptware.nl
tel : +31 (0)23 548 48 84
fax : +31 (0)23 548 48 85
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Re: Bleeds and a FrameMaker graphics oddity

[Rick Quatro]

When I say that the FrameMaker UI needs to be modernized, this one of the 
things that I mean. FrameMaker needs a pasteboard like other DTP 
applications.


Rick

I've been trying to set up a bleed margin on a rectangular graphical 
ornament on the master page. The visual appearance of the ornament is 
required to be a .25 point rule 'flush' with the page edge. (Uh-huh). 
Thought someone might be interested in the problem and one possible 
solution...


Try this: on a master page, use the graphics tools to draw a rectangle. 
Now use the nudge keys to nudge it off the right-hand side of the page. No 
problem.


Now try the same thing with a horizontal line: no problem.

Now try it with a vertical line. Uh? Seems like FrameMaker's coded so that 
a graphic object is not allowed to be made invisible by moving it 
completely off the visible page. Makes sense, I guess, *but the rule is 
applied even if the object being made 'invisible' is part of a group*. 
This means that it's impossible to set up a bleed area for a rectangular 
ornament by grouping a thick line with the right-hand edge of the thin 
rectangle.


Workaround A: create a solid rectangle, then mask it with a white 
rectangle to leave the required borders, and nudge it off the page edge? 
Nope: this doesn't work with other solid color on the page, as a 
transparent object is required.


Workaround B: create the rectangle by grouping four lines of differing 
thicknesses? Nope: fails the 'object cannot be made invisible even if part 
of a group' rule.


Workaround C: try the same sort of thing with graphics boxes with solid 
borders. Fails for more or less the same reasons - an object cannot be 
made completely invisible.


Workaround D: create the required graphical object elsewhere and import it 
into the master page. Bingo! An anchored frame in a text frame can be 
nudged off the visible page, therefore so can its contents. This allows 
precise positioning of the imported object, even if some of it is off the 
page edge.

--
Steve
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Re: Conditional Text in structured documents?

[Jakob Fix]

Roger,

On 12/01/06, Roger Shuttleworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Jakob

 Have you tried applying the condition to the Comment element itself,
 rather than to the text in it? You would do this by selecting the
 element in the Structure View. We do this all the time for some
 elements, and they do not result in an empty line.

Of course, I tried.  And I got the mentioned empty line. Because of
this, we had to design a special paragraph format (height: 0pt,
font-color: white, etc).  I know ...

Anyway, I just tried it again, just to be able to tell you that I've
got the same result, and this time it actually worked!  I don't know
what I did different this time.  However, I'm not sure how I can
actually hide all Comment paragraphs at once and show them again.

I've got the Sourcerer plugin sent by the Advantica people, and it
appears extremely powerful.  I think, I'll have a closer look at it.

 Another option is to define the Comment element as a marker element. If
 you do this, there is no need for conditional text at all. However, you
 are limited to 255 characters, and authors would need to actively search
 for the markers in order to read the comments. A plugin like IXGen would
 make this simple, though.

 Hope this helps.

Yes, thank you.

 Roger Shuttleworth
 London, Canada

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 m] On Behalf Of Jakob Fix
 Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:32 AM
 To: Framers List
 Subject: Conditional Text in structured documents?

 Hello,

 I've read chapter 17 Conditional Text of the User Guide several
 times in order to find out how I can do the following, but without
 success:

 I want authors to be able to add comments that will not show up in the
 final printed document, but which can be exploited elsewhere, say, in
 the online version. Conditional Text seems to be created for this
 exact purpose. d like to use a paragraph-level element, Comment
 which I can hide or show. Authors can type as much or as few as is
 required in these elements. Once the document moves to the final
 layout check stage, we'll hide the Comments elements by switching
 Conditional Text off, and can then make the final adjustments for the
 print layout.

 Testing this out, I could indeed hide the text inside the element, but
 not the element itself, i.e. if the comment occupied one line, hiding
 it now showed one empty line, whereas I'd like to not even see that
 empty space.

 Could somebody tell me if that's possible, or not? In the latter case,
 I will be looking for another solution.

 Thanks in advance.

--
cheers,
Jakob.
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Thank you! (re: Setting runaround properties on a table)

[Shelly, Heather]

I wanted to send a big thank you to Art Campbell, Peter Gold, Stuart
Rogers, and Glen Voyles for their help with setting up runaround
properties on a table. 

In our particular case, I am going to document Art's anchored frame
nesting workaround for our user community, and let them use it when
they need to.

As always, I appreciate the breadth and depth of knowledge available on
this list, and the willingness of y'all to share. 

Thanks,
Heather

Thank you,
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Information Development Specialist
Information Infrastructure Department
BMC Software, Inc.
(713) 918-4766

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Re: OS X PDF creation

[Paul Findon]

On 12 Jan 2006, at 17:38, William Herr wrote:


I just discovered the Folder Actions capability. This lets you assign a
canned script to a folder. One of those is convert Postscript to pdf.

Does anyone use this routinely


Like Apple, I use Distiller.


If it is robust then for a basic author like me, why do I need acrobat?


For basic stuff, you don't. However, if you want to create PDF 
bookmarks automatically and use FrameMaker's hypertext features , you 
have to use Distiller.


Paul
http://www.infopage.net/fmforosx/

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ANN: Upcoming FrameMaker, Adobe, XML training (North Carolina or on the web)

[Sarah O'Keefe]

In 2006, Scriptorium Publishing (an Adobe Authorized Training Center) is
offering training in the classroom and, for the first time, as live,
instructor-led classes over the web. We hope you'll join us!

Classes in January and February are as follows:

* January 17–20: XML and Structured Authoring (web-based)
* January 30–31: Unstructured FrameMaker 7: Accelerated Introduction
(classroom)
* February 1–2: Advanced Unstructured FrameMaker 7: Template Design
(classroom)
* February 6–7: InDesign CS2 (classroom)
* February 8–9: Photoshop CS2 (classroom)
* February 22–24: XSL in Publishing (classroom)

Complete schedule: http://scriptorium.com/training/schedule.html
Pricing information: http://scriptorium.com/training/trainingprices.html
Description of training options:
http://scriptorium.com/training/options.html
Register: http://store.scriptorium.com/Browse_dept_items.asp

If you have questions or need additional information, please feel free
to contact me.

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manipulating headers / footers through API?

[Jakob Fix]

Niels, Rick, Hedley,

thanks for your respective replies.  The idea to update markers or
variables is interesting indeed.

On 12/01/06, hedley.finger at myob.com  wrote:
> Can you explain what the problem is and why you think it is necessary to
> write a plug-in to solve it?

Well, Hedley, it's not so much about *writing* a plugin, but about
integrating the functionality into an existing one.  We already have a
powerful API client for FrameMaker+SGML we've been using for a long
long time now (so people are used to it), mainly to add the
possibility to add structured cross-references to other files.

Up to now we, as administrators, had to modify the FrameMaker file
that contains the two cross-reference targets for the two footer
fields (date and short publication title). Now we're looking to unify
and centralize meta information for our publications in one place
which can easily be manipulated by our authors. Of course, this could
be a Frame document, but a text ini file feels more appropriate
somehow.

--
cheers,
Jakob.

OS X PDF creation

[Steve Rickaby]

At 9:38 am -0800 12/1/06, William Herr wrote:

>I just discovered the Folder Actions capability. This lets you assign a
>canned script to a folder. One of those is convert Postscript to pdf.
>
>Does anyone use this routinely?
>
>If it is robust then for a basic author like me, why do I need acrobat?

This script likely uses the PDF rendered built into the Quartz engine, or 
wherever. Apple don't claim that this creates publication-quality PDFs, and 
indeed it does not. However, if you only need to achieve on-screen legibility 
for circulation of reports, etc., it may well be suitable for your needs. You 
can achieve the same thing by 'printing to PDF' from any OS X-native app - the 
PDF renderer is accessible from the print dialog - although of course this does 
not apply to Mac FrameMaker.

>One can see why Adobe may be losing motivation to support OS X. Now if just
>Pages could grow up quickly - but I know this is a pipe dream.

Yes, and will likely remain so. Apple's built-in apps aren't trying to hit the 
professional market. That's not to say that they might not create a pro 
documentation app at some point, but I'm not putting my money on it.
-- 
Steve

Conditional Text in structured documents?

[Steve Rickaby]

At 4:32 pm +0100 12/1/06, Jakob Fix wrote:

>I want authors to be able to add comments that will not show up in the
>final printed document, but which can be exploited elsewhere, say, in
>the online version. Conditional Text seems to be created for this
>exact purpose. ...
>Testing this out, I could indeed hide the text inside the element, but
>not the element itself, i.e. if the comment occupied one line, hiding
>it now showed one empty line, whereas I'd like to not even see that
>empty space.

The first time I read this, I didn't notice the word 'element', and assumed 
that Jakob's problem was merely because he was applying the conditional tag to 
the comment text but not to the comment paragraph's trailing paragraph marker - 
which would have the effect he describes.

Is this true, that an element cannot be made conditional? It's inelegant, and 
I've not tried it, but how about making the comment element an inline? But if 
your comments are not true comments, but in fact conditional blocks of text 
that you want to use in some single-source set-up for print vs. on-line, it 
sounds as if you might need a more comprehensive solution, such as Mif2Go (if 
it works with structure - not sure), or, as suggested, Sourcerer.
-- 
Steve

OT: Word to PDF

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Since no Acrobat guru has responded, maybe I should add my 2cents.

Sometimes PDF995 (www.pdf995.com) has worked where Acrobat has failed.

Bodvar

On 1/11/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com  
wrote:
> Since we are blessed to have so many acrobat gurus on this list:
>
> Windows XP
> Adobe Acrobat Professional 6.0
> MS Word 2002
>
> Inherited a Word doc with 143 pages, 2.99 MB that I need to convert to
> PDF. I have done a Save As and renamed to preserve the original and ensure
> that I know it is a Word 2002 doc that I am working with. I have done
> everything I know in my power to get this sucker to convert to a PDF
> -Wwithin Word using both PDFMaker and the Adobe PDF Printer. I have also
> tried from within Adobe Acrobat and no matter what I do, barf, crash, bang
> . ..  I cannot get this document to convert. I get the classic error
> message about flushing offending stack and not producing the PDF.
>
> What should I be looking for/troubleshooting in this otherwise fruitless
> endeavor?
>
> Thanks!
>
> TVB
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Senior Technical Writer
> Aviation Courseware Development
> Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
> 303-328-4420
> tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
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Bleeds and a FrameMaker graphics oddity

[Steve Rickaby]

I've been trying to set up a bleed margin on a rectangular graphical ornament 
on the master page. The visual appearance of the ornament is required to be a 
.25 point rule 'flush' with the page edge. (Uh-huh). Thought someone might be 
interested in the problem and one possible solution...

Try this: on a master page, use the graphics tools to draw a rectangle. Now use 
the nudge keys to nudge it off the right-hand side of the page. No problem.

Now try the same thing with a horizontal line: no problem.

Now try it with a vertical line. Uh? Seems like FrameMaker's coded so that a 
graphic object is not allowed to be made invisible by moving it completely off 
the visible page. Makes sense, I guess, *but the rule is applied even if the 
object being made 'invisible' is part of a group*. This means that it's 
impossible to set up a bleed area for a rectangular ornament by grouping a 
thick line with the right-hand edge of the thin rectangle.

Workaround A: create a solid rectangle, then mask it with a white rectangle to 
leave the required borders, and nudge it off the page edge? Nope: this doesn't 
work with other solid color on the page, as a transparent object is required.

Workaround B: create the rectangle by grouping four lines of differing 
thicknesses? Nope: fails the 'object cannot be made invisible even if part of a 
group' rule.

Workaround C: try the same sort of thing with graphics boxes with solid 
borders. Fails for more or less the same reasons - an object cannot be made 
completely invisible.

Workaround D: create the required graphical object elsewhere and import it into 
the master page. Bingo! An anchored frame in a text frame can be nudged off the 
visible page, therefore so can its contents. This allows precise positioning of 
the imported object, even if some of it is off the page edge.
-- 
Steve

structapps file in FM 7.2

[Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware)]

hello,

after installing FM 7.2 I can't find the proper structapps file - only an empty 
one. I remember seeing postings on the list concerning this issue, what was the 
cause and solution?


Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel wimh at scriptware.nl
DTP and XML Management

Scriptware bv http://www.scriptware.nl
tel : +31 (0)23 548 48 84
fax : +31 (0)23 548 48 85
http://www.scriptware.nl
info at scriptware.nl info at scriptware.nl 

structapps file in FM 7.2

[Yves Barbion]

Hello Wim,

This problem seems to occur in European versions of FrameMaker 7.2 only.

Indeed, the structapps.fm file in C:\Program 
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\Structure is empty. But if you do a Search in 
the subfolders, you will find 4 more structapps.fm files. You can use 
one of those, and, if you wish, copy it to the C:\Program 
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\Structure folder. These structapps.fm also 
contain the DITA application.

Good luck and best regards

Yves Barbion 
Technical Writer
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor


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Belgium 
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Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware) wrote:

>hello,
>
>after installing FM 7.2 I can't find the proper structapps file - only an 
>empty one. I remember seeing postings on the list concerning this issue, what 
>was the cause and solution?
>
>
>Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,
>
>Wim Hooghwinkel wimh at scriptware.nl
>DTP and XML Management
>
>Scriptware bv http://www.scriptware.nl
>tel : +31 (0)23 548 48 84
>fax : +31 (0)23 548 48 85
>http://www.scriptware.nl
>info at scriptware.nl info at scriptware.nl 
>
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Bleeds and a FrameMaker graphics oddity

[Rick Quatro]

When I say that the FrameMaker UI needs to be "modernized," this one of the 
things that I mean. FrameMaker needs a "pasteboard" like other DTP 
applications.

Rick

> I've been trying to set up a bleed margin on a rectangular graphical 
> ornament on the master page. The visual appearance of the ornament is 
> required to be a .25 point rule 'flush' with the page edge. (Uh-huh). 
> Thought someone might be interested in the problem and one possible 
> solution...
>
> Try this: on a master page, use the graphics tools to draw a rectangle. 
> Now use the nudge keys to nudge it off the right-hand side of the page. No 
> problem.
>
> Now try the same thing with a horizontal line: no problem.
>
> Now try it with a vertical line. Uh? Seems like FrameMaker's coded so that 
> a graphic object is not allowed to be made invisible by moving it 
> completely off the visible page. Makes sense, I guess, *but the rule is 
> applied even if the object being made 'invisible' is part of a group*. 
> This means that it's impossible to set up a bleed area for a rectangular 
> ornament by grouping a thick line with the right-hand edge of the thin 
> rectangle.
>
> Workaround A: create a solid rectangle, then mask it with a white 
> rectangle to leave the required borders, and nudge it off the page edge? 
> Nope: this doesn't work with other solid color on the page, as a 
> transparent object is required.
>
> Workaround B: create the rectangle by grouping four lines of differing 
> thicknesses? Nope: fails the 'object cannot be made invisible even if part 
> of a group' rule.
>
> Workaround C: try the same sort of thing with graphics boxes with solid 
> borders. Fails for more or less the same reasons - an object cannot be 
> made completely invisible.
>
> Workaround D: create the required graphical object elsewhere and import it 
> into the master page. Bingo! An anchored frame in a text frame can be 
> nudged off the visible page, therefore so can its contents. This allows 
> precise positioning of the imported object, even if some of it is off the 
> page edge.
> -- 
> Steve
> ___

Conditional Text in structured documents?

[Jakob Fix]

Roger,

On 12/01/06, Roger Shuttleworth  wrote:
> Hello Jakob
>
> Have you tried applying the condition to the Comment element itself,
> rather than to the text in it? You would do this by selecting the
> element in the Structure View. We do this all the time for some
> elements, and they do not result in an empty line.

Of course, I tried.  And I got the mentioned empty line. Because of
this, we had to design a special paragraph format (height: 0pt,
font-color: white, etc).  I know ...

Anyway, I just tried it again, just to be able to tell you that I've
got the same result, and this time it actually worked!  I don't know
what I did different this time.  However, I'm not sure how I can
actually hide all Comment paragraphs at once and show them again.

I've got the Sourcerer plugin sent by the Advantica people, and it
appears extremely powerful.  I think, I'll have a closer look at it.

> Another option is to define the Comment element as a marker element. If
> you do this, there is no need for conditional text at all. However, you
> are limited to 255 characters, and authors would need to actively search
> for the markers in order to read the comments. A plugin like IXGen would
> make this simple, though.
>
> Hope this helps.

Yes, thank you.

> Roger Shuttleworth
> London, Canada
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+rshuttleworth=activplant.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+rshuttleworth=activplant.com at lists.frameusers.co
> m] On Behalf Of Jakob Fix
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:32 AM
> To: Framers List
> Subject: Conditional Text in structured documents?
>
> Hello,
>
> I've read chapter 17 "Conditional Text" of the User Guide several
> times in order to find out how I can do the following, but without
> success:
>
> I want authors to be able to add comments that will not show up in the
> final printed document, but which can be exploited elsewhere, say, in
> the online version. Conditional Text seems to be created for this
> exact purpose. d like to use a paragraph-level element, "Comment"
> which I can hide or show. Authors can type as much or as few as is
> required in these elements. Once the document moves to the final
> layout check stage, we'll hide the Comments elements by switching
> Conditional Text off, and can then make the final adjustments for the
> print layout.
>
> Testing this out, I could indeed hide the text inside the element, but
> not the element itself, i.e. if the comment occupied one line, hiding
> it now showed one empty line, whereas I'd like to not even see that
> empty space.
>
> Could somebody tell me if that's possible, or not? In the latter case,
> I will be looking for another solution.
>
> Thanks in advance.

--
cheers,
Jakob.

Thank you! (re: Setting runaround properties on a table)

[Shelly, Heather]

I wanted to send a big thank you to Art Campbell, Peter Gold, Stuart
Rogers, and Glen Voyles for their help with setting up runaround
properties on a table. 

In our particular case, I am going to document Art's "anchored frame
nesting" workaround for our user community, and let them use it when
they need to.

As always, I appreciate the breadth and depth of knowledge available on
this list, and the willingness of y'all to share. 

Thanks,
Heather

Thank you,
Heather Shelly
Information Development Specialist
Information Infrastructure Department
BMC Software, Inc.
(713) 918-4766

OS X PDF creation

[Paul Findon]

On 12 Jan 2006, at 17:38, William Herr wrote:

> I just discovered the Folder Actions capability. This lets you assign a
> canned script to a folder. One of those is convert Postscript to pdf.
>
> Does anyone use this routinely

Like Apple, I use Distiller.

> If it is robust then for a basic author like me, why do I need acrobat?

For basic stuff, you don't. However, if you want to create PDF 
bookmarks automatically and use FrameMaker's hypertext features , you 
have to use Distiller.

Paul

Link from PDF to topics in CHM

[Joe Campo]

I had a solution from MicroType for linking from a PDF to topics in a
CHM.
However, as of Acrobat 7, the links require absolute paths.
This is unacceptable because the links will fail for all Network Server
installations, or any customized installs that deviate from the default.

So I'm back to the beginning.

Does anyone have any other ideas how to link from PDF to topics in a CHM
that will work with relative paths?

Could you link from the PDF to an HTML topic via a relative path, then
use some kind of redirection from the HTML topic to topics in a CHM? Is
that possible?

Any other ideas?

I'd appreciate any help/ideas you can provide.

Thanks.

Joe Campo
Joe.campo at solidworks.com

I've cross-posted this to multiple forums today.

ANN: Upcoming FrameMaker, Adobe, XML training (North Carolina or on the web)

[Sarah O'Keefe]

In 2006, Scriptorium Publishing (an Adobe Authorized Training Center) is
offering training in the classroom and, for the first time, as live,
instructor-led classes over the web. We hope you'll join us!

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* January 17?20: XML and Structured Authoring (web-based)
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