FM 7.2 7.2p158 - undo history

[Wim Hooghwinkel \(Scriptware\)]

When performing a 'file-save all files in book' action, FM comes up with a 
warning message for each file saved that the undo-history will be lost. In a 
390 file book it means 390 times clicking 'ok'.

Can this be avoided somehow - can the message on losing the undo history be 
turned off any way? It comes up very often.


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Re: OT: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM

[rebecca officer]

I'm pretty sure you can't do this with recent Reader versions for Windows. We 
used to, but now we provide an installation file and I'm pretty sure we changed 
because the software required the change.

As you may have guessed, I don't deal with this bit of our process. The person 
who does is on leave now, but I could get more info from him in a fortnight if 
you want me to.

Cheers, Rebecca

 David Bills [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/13/06 12:21 PM 
Hi Everyone,

I'm familiar with providing an Acrobat Reader installation file on the manual 
CD-ROM, but I just received an RFP that specifies, Each CD-ROM shall have 
Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to enable the user to read the manual by using 
the CD-ROM only. I spent some time searching Adobe's Web site, but didn't find 
any information on a version of Acrobat Reader that runs directly from the 
CD-ROM. If anyone is aware of where I can find this information on Adobe's 
site, would you please send me the URL.

Thanks in advance,

Dave Bills
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Re: OT: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM

[rebecca officer]

I'm pretty sure you can't do this with recent Reader versions for Windows. We 
used to, but now we provide an installation file and I'm pretty sure we changed 
because the software required the change.

As you may have guessed, I don't deal with this bit of our process. The person 
who does is on leave now, but I could get more info from him in a fortnight if 
you want me to.

Cheers, Rebecca

 David Bills [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/13/06 12:21 PM 
Hi Everyone,

I'm familiar with providing an Acrobat Reader installation file on the manual 
CD-ROM, but I just received an RFP that specifies, Each CD-ROM shall have 
Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to enable the user to read the manual by using 
the CD-ROM only. I spent some time searching Adobe's Web site, but didn't find 
any information on a version of Acrobat Reader that runs directly from the 
CD-ROM. If anyone is aware of where I can find this information on Adobe's 
site, would you please send me the URL.

Thanks in advance,

Dave Bills
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Re: FM 7.2 7.2p158 - undo history

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Wim,

There is are settings in the Preferences dialog box for controlling the undo 
history warnings.


Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



When performing a 'file-save all files in book' action, FM comes up with a 
warning message for each file saved that the undo-history will be lost. In a 
390 file book it means 390 times clicking 'ok'.


Can this be avoided somehow - can the message on losing the undo history be 
turned off any way? It comes up very often.



Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

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OT: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM - Thanks!

[David Bills]

All,

Thank you for your thoughtful and informative responses. In addition to the 
list posts, Dave Brown provided a URL that describes the process at:

http://www.indigorose.com/webhelp/ams60/How_do_I/Run_Adobe_Acrobat_Reader_directly_from_the_CD-ROM.htm

As Peter suggested, we'll check with our Adobe rep and ensure that we're 
complying with their license prior to proceeding. It's a Government 
contract, so the customer will be flexible if there's a licensing issue 
involved.


Thanks again,

Dave Bills


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Subject: OT: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM


Hi Everyone,

I'm familiar with providing an Acrobat Reader installation file on the 
manual CD-ROM, but I just received an RFP that specifies, Each CD-ROM shall 
have Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to enable the user to read the manual by 
using the CD-ROM only. I spent some time searching Adobe's Web site, but 
didn't find any information on a version of Acrobat Reader that runs 
directly from the CD-ROM. If anyone is aware of where I can find this 
information on Adobe's site, would you please send me the URL.


Thanks in advance,

Dave Bills
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RE: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM

[Roberts, Katie]

I include a readme file with a link to the Adobe website and suggest
that download directly from Adobe.
 


Katie Roberts
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Subject: RE: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM

Hmm. They more than likely meant that they didn't people to install
software on their computer just so they could read the files on the CD.

Seems to me:
1. Whoever wrote the RFP may have limited/no understanding of the
requirements of multiple platforms when publishing on CDROM.
2. Whoever wrote the RFP possibly assumes the CDROM will only ever be
run on one platform.
3. Whoever wrote the RFP may not understand that a program is often
integrated with its OS, which makes it difficult to distribute a program
that has not been installed into that environment.

Of course, there are more programs around than just Reader that can open
and display the contents of a PDF. Depends on what other features they
need, like bookmarks, etc. And it depends on what platform(s) you are
distributing for.

Cheers
Alan

Joanne Curme said:
 They probably meant they want a compatible version of Reader included 
 on the CD-ROM so users can install Reader from the CD. They want to 
 avoid the situation of users being unable to read the docs because 
 they don't have the right Reader. It also means users won't need an 
 Internet connection to hunt for and download the right version of
Reader.

 Joanne


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 Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 5:22 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: OT: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM

 Hi Everyone,

 I'm familiar with providing an Acrobat Reader installation file on the

 manual CD-ROM, but I just received an RFP that specifies, Each CD-ROM

 shall have Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to enable the user to read 
 the manual by using the CD-ROM only. I spent some time searching 
 Adobe's Web site, but didn't find any information on a version of 
 Acrobat Reader that runs directly from the CD-ROM. If anyone is aware 
 of where I can find this information on Adobe's site, would you please
send me the URL.

 Thanks in advance,

 Dave Bills
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RE: Framers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13

[Joan Robins]

Text Insets take on formatting of source document ALWAYS!

Has anyone noticed that unless you choose plain text, the imported text
inset will have the formatting of the document that you are importing FROM
and not the one into which the text inset is going? 

I'm sure it used to work in Frame 6. Wow, it sure makes my life difficult!!

Could someone else test and see if my findings are correct??

Much appreciated.

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Help! My postscript file won't distill

[Rebecca . L . Frasure]

Every time I try to print a Framemaker book to postscript (or save as PDF) 
I get the message - This PostScript file was created from an encrypted PDF 
file.
Redistilling encrypted PDF is not permitted. 

I have checked all of the security settings and there is no security 
settings. What is causing this, and how can I remove the security 
settings?
Thanks very much for anyone's help!

Becky Frasure
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RE: Framers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13

[Jim Light]

I do not see that behavior. Here is what I just did:

I opened a container file and double-clicked a text inset.

I opened the text inset.

I selected a paragraph changed the paragraph tag definition to use a
completely different font. (Arial to Times New Roman) I updated the tag.

I added some random characters to the end of the graf to make sure the
changed Inset was in effect.

I saved the inset.

Back in the container file I double-clicked the inset and selected
Update Now.

My container file contains the same paragraph tag as the inset file. The
two fonts now disagree for this tag in the two files. The font in the
container file won.

I created a new tag in the inset The container file does not have this
tag at all. The tag appeared as I defined it in the inset and the
container file did not change it.

Does that help?

If you want the container file to control the formatting, make sure the
Inset and the container use exactly the same tag names.

Jim Light

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Text Insets take on formatting of source document ALWAYS!

Has anyone noticed that unless you choose plain text, the imported text
inset will have the formatting of the document that you are importing
FROM
and not the one into which the text inset is going? 

I'm sure it used to work in Frame 6. Wow, it sure makes my life
difficult!!

Could someone else test and see if my findings are correct??

Much appreciated.

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RE: Help! My postscript file won't distill

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Becky,
Your Frame files wouldn't happen to be referencing any PDFs for graphics,
would they? If one of those is encrypted it could result in the error you're
describing. Then again, is it even possible to use such a file as a graphic?
Anyone?

Berny Gagné
Sr. Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 

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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Help! My postscript file won't distill

Every time I try to print a Framemaker book to postscript (or save as PDF) I
get the message - This PostScript file was created from an encrypted PDF
file.
Redistilling encrypted PDF is not permitted. 

I have checked all of the security settings and there is no security
settings. What is causing this, and how can I remove the security settings?
Thanks very much for anyone's help!

Becky Frasure
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RE: Help! My postscript file won't distill

[Combs, Richard]

Becky wrote:  

 Every time I try to print a Framemaker book to postscript (or 
 save as PDF) I get the message - This PostScript file was 
 created from an encrypted PDF file.
 Redistilling encrypted PDF is not permitted. 

Berny replied: 
 
 Hi Becky,
 Your Frame files wouldn't happen to be referencing any PDFs 
 for graphics, would they? If one of those is encrypted it 
 could result in the error you're describing. Then again, is 
 it even possible to use such a file as a graphic?
 Anyone?

It's indeed possible. I import PDFs by reference all the time -- it's
the best way (IMO) to get Visio diagrams into FM. I have a meeting and
can't confirm it right now, but I think Berny's hypothesis is probably
correct. 

Richard


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re: Help! My postscript file won't distill

[Rebecca . L . Frasure]

I just solved my own problem. Apparently there was an encrypted pdf form 
imported into one of the framemaker files. After I deleted the imported 
pdf, I had no problem.

Becky Frasure
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OT: More on Translation Services

[Gillian Flato]

I want to thank everybody who responded to my translation services
inquiry. 
 
After learning more about considerations for finding an appropriate
translation/localization service, I realize that I need a translation
service that has experience translating documents related to wafer
fabrication. My company does wafer metrology. A translation service that
only does medical docs, for example, would have a difficult time with
the terms and concepts of the wafer metrology industry. Additionally,
the ramp-up time would be quite long. 
 
So if any of you are in a wafer-related industry and work with a
Translation house that understands this industry, please email me
privately with their information.
 

Thanks,

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

NANOmetrics, Inc.

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Re: First question from my new gig

[Art Campbell]

Try selecting all the files in the book (or the ones you want to
affect with the edit), as well as the book file itself.

Art

On 4/13/06, John Posada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, guys...I've landed at EMC. I'm here since yesterday and I have my
 first question.

 Using FM7.2 unstrutured and creating PDFs...When I set, from the
 Book, File - File Info, are the settings applied to all the files in
 the book or only the file that is highlighted in the book?

 IF the changes are done at the file level instead of the book level
 (which I suspect), and then I run Distiller, where is it picking up
 the properties that it places in the PDF? Is it from the first file
 in the book? The last file? From wherever it chooses?
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RE: another questions on XML import

[Lynne A. Price]

At 12:49 AM 4/12/2006, Wim Hooghwinkel \(Scriptware\) wrote:
Could the 'Entity Locations' (element  Entities) in the Structapps file 
be used to point to the Public entity files?


Or in stead of defining separate entitys, use general pointer in the DTD, like

!ENTITY  % ISOlat2 PUBLIC
ISO 8879-1986//ENTITIES Added Latin 2//EN 


Wim,
  To use a public entity set, you must include a declaration such as the 
one in your message within the DTD (either in the external subset or the 
internal subset). The form of declaration you've shown, with a public 
identifier but no system identifier, is valid in SGML; in XML a system 
identifier is required. The system identifier can be empty as in:


!ENTITY % ISOlat1 PUBLIC ISO 8879:1986//ENTITIES Added Latin 1//EN//XML 

You can definitely use the Entities element in the application definition 
(usually in structapps.fm) to associate a file with a public identifier, or 
to specify search paths for relative filenames within a system identifier. 
You don't need to do so for the 19 ISO public entity sets, since FM 
recognizes their public identifiers.


--Lynne


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Runnning Windows on Mac news

[Pat Christenson]

The NY Times had an article today about Parallels Workstation, a beta 
software that allows you to run OS X and Windows (any version, not just 
XP) simultaneously on an intel-powered Mac. You don't have to reboot 
when you switch. You can copy/paste between systems. You have to 
network them to share files. The free download is available at 
http://www.parallels.com/.


This sounds like the most acceptable solution for the I don't wanna 
buy a PC just to run FrameMaker folks (of which I am one, although I 
already have both a Mac and a PC).


Pat Christenson

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Re: Runnning Windows on Mac news

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Pat:

From a user's viewpoint, Parallels is similar to Microsoft's 
Virtual PC. Tech-heads say the the technologies are somewhat 
different, but from the user side, the experience is similar:


* You pay for a copy of Windows, and install it on your Mac.

* You pay for a copy of any Windows software you need, and install it 
on the Windows side.


* You pay a penalty in speed because VPC and Parallels both have to 
imitate Windows.


Each generation of faster machines makes the speed loss somewhat 
less. Older Windows applications that were developed for slower 
environments exhibit less slow-down, but newer resource-hungry 
applications struggle.


I'm still surprised by how nimble FM under Classic on my older TiBook 
*seems*, compared to InDesign CS2 under OS X Panther 10.3.9; partly 
this is due to Classic taking some of my maximum load of 1GB RAM, and 
my FM being set to a large memory partition under Classic, and partly 
even 1GB under OS X is borderline for ID CS2, Bridge, and Version 
Cue, without Classic. However, on my newer Windows laptop and WinXP, 
FM 7.2 is nimble enough, and has all the updated features and bug-fix 
patches that aren't available since FM 7 was discontinued on 
Macintosh.


MacTel's story is only beginning, however. Who knows what might 
happen next for FM users?



Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

At 3:58 PM -0700 4/13/06, Pat Christenson wrote:
The NY Times had an article today about Parallels Workstation, a 
beta software that allows you to run OS X and Windows (any version, 
not just XP) simultaneously on an intel-powered Mac. You don't have 
to reboot when you switch. You can copy/paste between systems. You 
have to network them to share files. The free download is 
available at http://www.parallels.com/.


This sounds like the most acceptable solution for the I don't wanna 
buy a PC just to run FrameMaker folks (of which I am one, although 
I already have both a Mac and a PC).


Pat Christenson

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Re: Runnning Windows on Mac news

[quills]

At 3:58 PM -0700 4/13/06, Pat Christenson wrote:
The NY Times had an article today about Parallels Workstation, a 
beta software that allows you to run OS X and Windows (any version, 
not just XP) simultaneously on an intel-powered Mac. You don't have 
to reboot when you switch. You can copy/paste between systems. You 
have to network them to share files. The free download is 
available at http://www.parallels.com/.


This sounds like the most acceptable solution for the I don't wanna 
buy a PC just to run FrameMaker folks (of which I am one, although 
I already have both a Mac and a PC).


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Boot Camp enables you to run Windows XP natively. The beta copy 
already has the native drivers. There is no speed degradation. It is 
not emulation.


Parallels seems to be virtulization, but not emulation. It is a true 
beta and does not yet have all the drivers needed.


The caveat is that you need an Intel Mac to run these programs.

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Exporting RTF or MIF from InDesign

[hedley.fin...@myob.com]

All:

A colleague wants to know whether there is any way of exporting text 
content and graphics from InDesign to FrameMaker (either as binary FM or 
MIF).  Otherwise, export to Word or Rich Text Format (RTF) may have to 
suffice.  I've not used InDesign, so can't comment.

You would think this was easy as both InDesign and FrameMaker are Adobe 
products, but a visit to Adobe's site was not very informative.

Regards,
Hedley

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Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM

[Alan Litchfield]

Hmm. They more than likely meant that they didn't people to install software
on their computer just so they could read the files on the CD.

Seems to me:
1. Whoever wrote the RFP may have limited/no understanding of the requirements
of multiple platforms when publishing on CDROM.
2. Whoever wrote the RFP possibly assumes the CDROM will only ever be run on
one platform.
3. Whoever wrote the RFP may not understand that a program is often integrated
with its OS, which makes it difficult to distribute a program that has not
been installed into that environment.

Of course, there are more programs around than just Reader that can open and
display the contents of a PDF. Depends on what other features they need, like
bookmarks, etc. And it depends on what platform(s) you are distributing for.

Cheers
Alan

Joanne Curme said:
> They probably meant they want a compatible version of Reader included on the
> CD-ROM so users can install Reader from the CD. They want to avoid the
> situation of users being unable to read the docs because they don't have the
> right Reader. It also means users won't need an Internet connection to hunt
> for and download the right version of Reader.
>
> Joanne
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+joanne=exeros.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+joanne=exeros.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
> Of
> David Bills
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 5:22 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: OT: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I'm familiar with providing an Acrobat Reader installation file on the
> manual CD-ROM, but I just received an RFP that specifies, "Each CD-ROM shall
> have Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to enable the user to read the manual by
> using the CD-ROM only." I spent some time searching Adobe's Web site, but
> didn't find any information on a version of Acrobat Reader that runs
> directly from the CD-ROM. If anyone is aware of where I can find this
> information on Adobe's site, would you please send me the URL.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dave Bills
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Exporting RTF or MIF from InDesign

[Alan Litchfield]

Exporting RTF or MIF from InDesign

[hedley.fin...@myob.com]

Of course, if export to FM from InDesign was implemented, certain 
wild-eyed types would immediately assume that Adobe were going to 
discontinue InDesign in favour of FrameMaker. 
Moo-err-h-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! [think Vincent Price].
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Exporting RTF or MIF from InDesign

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Alan (and Hedley):

ID 2.x did export HTML, but later releases do not! There's an export 
"package" option for GoLive, but it's not HTML.

There are free scripts available at the Adobe Studio and InDesign 
User-to-User Forum that can export all stories in a file as RTF or 
text. You can export an ID file as XML, but you need to assign XML 
element tags to each object and story to do this.

Your suggestion to export as PDF and convert PDF to RTF is a 
reasonable workaround.

At 1:43 PM +1200 4/13/06, Alan Litchfield wrote:
>From http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign/indesign_508.html
>
>"Adobe InDesign 2.0 enables users to convert InDesign documents into
>text-based formats, such as Rich Text Format (RTF), Hypertext Markup Language
>(HTML), eXtensible Markup Language (XML), and plain text (TXT). These formats
>can be accessed using standard tools, such as word processors."
>
>Of course, when one tries to do this by going File > Export...
>
>Well, here's the secret. Select the Text tool and the text frame you want to
>export to rtf. Go File > Export and hey presto. Instead of the usual PDF, etc.
>options, you now have a whole bunch of text related export options.
>
>But, you are only going to export the text flow you have selected ;)
>
>Option B. How about exporting to PDF, then saving from Acrobat as RTF?
>
>Cheers
>Alan
>
>>  All:
>>
>>  A colleague wants to know whether there is any way of exporting text
>>  content and graphics from InDesign to FrameMaker (either as binary FM or
>>  MIF).  Otherwise, export to Word or Rich Text Format (RTF) may have to
>>  suffice.  I've not used InDesign, so can't comment.
>>
>>  You would think this was easy as both InDesign and FrameMaker are Adobe
>  > products, but a visit to Adobe's site was not very informative.

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM

[Peter Gold]

If there's no information on running Reader from a CD-ROM on the 
Adobe site, and it's not mentioned in the license, and no mention 
especially in the distribution requirements, it's a good bet that 
Adobe doesn't want their product to be distributed this way, even if 
it runs. Although Reader is free, it's not without licence 
requirements.

HTH


Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices


Dave asked:

>  >> I spent some time searching Adobe's Web site, but
>  >> didn't find any information on a version of Acrobat Reader that runs
>  >> directly from the CD-ROM. If anyone is aware of where I can find this
>  >> information on Adobe's site, would you please send me the URL.
>  >>
>  >> Thanks in advance,
>  >>
>  >> Dave Bills

Diane replied:

At 9:07 PM -0700 4/12/06, Diane Gaskill wrote:
>Dave,
>
>I've done what your RFP asks for, but it was with an older version 
>of Acrobat Reader.
>I installed Reader on the hard disk and then just copied the entire 
>tree to a CD.  It
>worked fine.  However, Adobe has added security features to most of 
>its products
>and I cannot say whether this method will work with the current 
>version of Acrobat.
>But it's worth a try.  BTW, the product I had documented ran only on 
>a Windows system
>so there was no question regarding platforms.

FM 7.2 7.2p158 - undo history

[Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware)]

When performing a 'file-save all files in book' action, FM comes up with a 
warning message for each file saved that the undo-history will be lost. In a 
390 file book it means 390 times clicking 'ok'.

Can this be avoided somehow - can the message on losing the undo history be 
turned off any way? It comes up very often.


Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel wimh at scriptware.nl
DTP and XML Management

Scriptware bv http://www.scriptware.nl
tel : +31 (0)23 548 48 84
fax : +31 (0)23 548 48 85
http://www.scriptware.nl
info at scriptware.nl info at scriptware.nl 

OT: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM

[rebecca officer]

I'm pretty sure you can't do this with recent Reader versions for Windows. We 
used to, but now we provide an installation file and I'm pretty sure we changed 
because the software required the change.

As you may have guessed, I don't deal with this bit of our process. The person 
who does is on leave now, but I could get more info from him in a fortnight if 
you want me to.

Cheers, Rebecca

>>> "David Bills"  04/13/06 12:21 PM >>>
Hi Everyone,

I'm familiar with providing an Acrobat Reader installation file on the manual 
CD-ROM, but I just received an RFP that specifies, "Each CD-ROM shall have 
Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to enable the user to read the manual by using 
the CD-ROM only." I spent some time searching Adobe's Web site, but didn't find 
any information on a version of Acrobat Reader that runs directly from the 
CD-ROM. If anyone is aware of where I can find this information on Adobe's 
site, would you please send me the URL.

Thanks in advance,

Dave Bills
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OT: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM

[rebecca officer]

I'm pretty sure you can't do this with recent Reader versions for Windows. We 
used to, but now we provide an installation file and I'm pretty sure we changed 
because the software required the change.

As you may have guessed, I don't deal with this bit of our process. The person 
who does is on leave now, but I could get more info from him in a fortnight if 
you want me to.

Cheers, Rebecca

>>> "David Bills"  04/13/06 12:21 PM >>>
Hi Everyone,

I'm familiar with providing an Acrobat Reader installation file on the manual 
CD-ROM, but I just received an RFP that specifies, "Each CD-ROM shall have 
Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to enable the user to read the manual by using 
the CD-ROM only." I spent some time searching Adobe's Web site, but didn't find 
any information on a version of Acrobat Reader that runs directly from the 
CD-ROM. If anyone is aware of where I can find this information on Adobe's 
site, would you please send me the URL.

Thanks in advance,

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FM 7.2 7.2p158 - undo history

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Wim,

There is are settings in the Preferences dialog box for controlling the undo 
history warnings.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



When performing a 'file-save all files in book' action, FM comes up with a 
warning message for each file saved that the undo-history will be lost. In a 
390 file book it means 390 times clicking 'ok'.

Can this be avoided somehow - can the message on losing the undo history be 
turned off any way? It comes up very often.


Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

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fax : +31 (0)23 548 48 85
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OT: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM - Thanks!

[David Bills]

All,

Thank you for your thoughtful and informative responses. In addition to the 
list posts, Dave Brown provided a URL that describes the process at:


As Peter suggested, we'll check with our Adobe rep and ensure that we're 
complying with their license prior to proceeding. It's a Government 
contract, so the customer will be flexible if there's a licensing issue 
involved.

Thanks again,

Dave Bills


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Subject: OT: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM


Hi Everyone,

I'm familiar with providing an Acrobat Reader installation file on the 
manual CD-ROM, but I just received an RFP that specifies, "Each CD-ROM shall 
have Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to enable the user to read the manual by 
using the CD-ROM only." I spent some time searching Adobe's Web site, but 
didn't find any information on a version of Acrobat Reader that runs 
directly from the CD-ROM. If anyone is aware of where I can find this 
information on Adobe's site, would you please send me the URL.

Thanks in advance,

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Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM

[Roberts, Katie]

I include a readme file with a link to the Adobe website and suggest
that download directly from Adobe.



Katie Roberts
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Albert Einstein 




-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+kroberts=ohmartvega@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+kroberts=ohmartvega.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Litchfield
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 9:23 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM

Hmm. They more than likely meant that they didn't people to install
software on their computer just so they could read the files on the CD.

Seems to me:
1. Whoever wrote the RFP may have limited/no understanding of the
requirements of multiple platforms when publishing on CDROM.
2. Whoever wrote the RFP possibly assumes the CDROM will only ever be
run on one platform.
3. Whoever wrote the RFP may not understand that a program is often
integrated with its OS, which makes it difficult to distribute a program
that has not been installed into that environment.

Of course, there are more programs around than just Reader that can open
and display the contents of a PDF. Depends on what other features they
need, like bookmarks, etc. And it depends on what platform(s) you are
distributing for.

Cheers
Alan

Joanne Curme said:
> They probably meant they want a compatible version of Reader included 
> on the CD-ROM so users can install Reader from the CD. They want to 
> avoid the situation of users being unable to read the docs because 
> they don't have the right Reader. It also means users won't need an 
> Internet connection to hunt for and download the right version of
Reader.
>
> Joanne
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+joanne=exeros.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+joanne=exeros.com at lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of David Bills
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 5:22 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: OT: Including Acrobat Reader on Manual CD-ROM
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I'm familiar with providing an Acrobat Reader installation file on the

> manual CD-ROM, but I just received an RFP that specifies, "Each CD-ROM

> shall have Adobe Acrobat Reader installed to enable the user to read 
> the manual by using the CD-ROM only." I spent some time searching 
> Adobe's Web site, but didn't find any information on a version of 
> Acrobat Reader that runs directly from the CD-ROM. If anyone is aware 
> of where I can find this information on Adobe's site, would you please
send me the URL.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dave Bills
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Framers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13

[Joan Robins]

Text Insets take on formatting of source document ALWAYS!

Has anyone noticed that unless you choose plain text, the imported text
inset will have the formatting of the document that you are importing FROM
and not the one into which the text inset is going? 

I'm sure it used to work in Frame 6. Wow, it sure makes my life difficult!!

Could someone else test and see if my findings are correct??

Much appreciated.

~~~
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~~~

Help! My postscript file won't distill

[rebecca.l.fras...@aphis.usda.gov]

Every time I try to print a Framemaker book to postscript (or save as PDF) 
I get the message - This PostScript file was created from an encrypted PDF 
file.
Redistilling encrypted PDF is not permitted. 

I have checked all of the security settings and there is no security 
settings. What is causing this, and how can I remove the security 
settings?
Thanks very much for anyone's help!

Becky Frasure

Framers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13

[Jim Light]

I do not see that behavior. Here is what I just did:

I opened a container file and double-clicked a text inset.

I opened the text inset.

I selected a paragraph changed the paragraph tag definition to use a
completely different font. (Arial to Times New Roman) I updated the tag.

I added some random characters to the end of the graf to make sure the
changed Inset was in effect.

I saved the inset.

Back in the container file I double-clicked the inset and selected
Update Now.

My container file contains the same paragraph tag as the inset file. The
two fonts now disagree for this tag in the two files. The font in the
container file won.

I created a new tag in the inset The container file does not have this
tag at all. The tag appeared as I defined it in the inset and the
container file did not change it.

Does that help?

If you want the container file to control the formatting, make sure the
Inset and the container use exactly the same tag names.

Jim Light

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Subject: RE: Framers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13

Text Insets take on formatting of source document ALWAYS!

Has anyone noticed that unless you choose plain text, the imported text
inset will have the formatting of the document that you are importing
FROM
and not the one into which the text inset is going? 

I'm sure it used to work in Frame 6. Wow, it sure makes my life
difficult!!

Could someone else test and see if my findings are correct??

Much appreciated.

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Help! My postscript file won't distill

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Becky,
Your Frame files wouldn't happen to be referencing any PDFs for graphics,
would they? If one of those is encrypted it could result in the error you're
describing. Then again, is it even possible to use such a file as a graphic?
Anyone?

Berny Gagn?
Sr. Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 

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Subject: Help! My postscript file won't distill

Every time I try to print a Framemaker book to postscript (or save as PDF) I
get the message - This PostScript file was created from an encrypted PDF
file.
Redistilling encrypted PDF is not permitted. 

I have checked all of the security settings and there is no security
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Thanks very much for anyone's help!

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Help! My postscript file won't distill

[Combs, Richard]

Becky wrote:  

> Every time I try to print a Framemaker book to postscript (or 
> save as PDF) I get the message - This PostScript file was 
> created from an encrypted PDF file.
> Redistilling encrypted PDF is not permitted. 

Berny replied: 

> Hi Becky,
> Your Frame files wouldn't happen to be referencing any PDFs 
> for graphics, would they? If one of those is encrypted it 
> could result in the error you're describing. Then again, is 
> it even possible to use such a file as a graphic?
> Anyone?

It's indeed possible. I import PDFs by reference all the time -- it's
the best way (IMO) to get Visio diagrams into FM. I have a meeting and
can't confirm it right now, but I think Berny's hypothesis is probably
correct. 

Richard


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Help! My postscript file won't distill

[rebecca.l.fras...@aphis.usda.gov]

I just solved my own problem. Apparently there was an encrypted pdf form 
imported into one of the framemaker files. After I deleted the imported 
pdf, I had no problem.

Becky Frasure

OT: More on Translation Services

[Gillian Flato]

I want to thank everybody who responded to my translation services
inquiry. 

After learning more about considerations for finding an appropriate
translation/localization service, I realize that I need a translation
service that has experience translating documents related to wafer
fabrication. My company does wafer metrology. A translation service that
only does medical docs, for example, would have a difficult time with
the terms and concepts of the wafer metrology industry. Additionally,
the ramp-up time would be quite long. 

So if any of you are in a wafer-related industry and work with a
Translation house that understands this industry, please email me
privately with their information.


Thanks,

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

NANOmetrics, Inc.

1550 Buckeye Dr.

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

7  408.232.5911

* gflato at nanometrics.com  




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First question from my new gig

[John Posada]

Hi, guys...I've landed at EMC. I'm here since yesterday and I have my
first question.

Using FM7.2 unstrutured and creating PDFs...When I set, from the
Book, File -> File Info, are the settings applied to all the files in
the book or only the file that is highlighted in the book?

IF the changes are done at the file level instead of the book level
(which I suspect), and then I run Distiller, where is it picking up
the properties that it places in the PDF? Is it from the first file
in the book? The last file? From wherever it chooses?

Related question...how do I replicate the values to all the files in
the book so they are consistent? I'm guesing Document Properties, but
the problems with is is that it brings with it setting changes that I
don't want. How can I isolate the replication to just the File Info
settings?

Thanks, guys.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer 

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

"So long and thanks for all the fish."

First question from my new gig

[Art Campbell]

Try selecting all the files in the book (or the ones you want to
affect with the edit), as well as the book file itself.

Art

On 4/13/06, John Posada  wrote:
> Hi, guys...I've landed at EMC. I'm here since yesterday and I have my
> first question.
>
> Using FM7.2 unstrutured and creating PDFs...When I set, from the
> Book, File -> File Info, are the settings applied to all the files in
> the book or only the file that is highlighted in the book?
>
> IF the changes are done at the file level instead of the book level
> (which I suspect), and then I run Distiller, where is it picking up
> the properties that it places in the PDF? Is it from the first file
> in the book? The last file? From wherever it chooses?


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   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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First question from my new gig

[John Posada]

This is GOOD! Thanks

--- Art Campbell  wrote:

> Try selecting all the files in the book (or the ones you want to
> affect with the edit), as well as the book file itself.


John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

"So long and thanks for all the fish."

another questions on XML import

[Lynne A. Price]

At 12:49 AM 4/12/2006, Wim Hooghwinkel \(Scriptware\) wrote:
>Could the 'Entity Locations' (element < Entities>) in the Structapps file 
>be used to point to the Public entity files?
>
>Or in stead of defining separate entitys, use general pointer in the DTD, like
>
>"ISO 8879-1986//ENTITIES Added Latin 2//EN" >

Wim,
   To use a public entity set, you must include a declaration such as the 
one in your message within the DTD (either in the external subset or the 
internal subset). The form of declaration you've shown, with a public 
identifier but no system identifier, is valid in SGML; in XML a system 
identifier is required. The system identifier can be empty as in:



You can definitely use the Entities element in the application definition 
(usually in structapps.fm) to associate a file with a public identifier, or 
to specify search paths for relative filenames within a system identifier. 
You don't need to do so for the 19 ISO public entity sets, since FM 
recognizes their public identifiers.

 --Lynne


Lynne A. Price
Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, 
and training
lprice at txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com
voice/fax: (510) 583-1505  cell phone: (510) 421-2284 

Runnning Windows on Mac news

[Pat Christenson]

The NY Times had an article today about Parallels Workstation, a beta 
software that allows you to run OS X and Windows (any version, not just 
XP) simultaneously on an intel-powered Mac. You don't have to reboot 
when you switch. You can copy/paste between systems. You have to 
"network" them to share files. The free download is available at 
http://www.parallels.com/.

This sounds like the most acceptable solution for the "I don't wanna 
buy a PC just to run FrameMaker" folks (of which I am one, although I 
already have both a Mac and a PC).

Pat Christenson

Runnning Windows on Mac news

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Pat:

 From a user's viewpoint, "Parallels" is similar to Microsoft's 
"Virtual PC." Tech-heads say the the technologies are somewhat 
different, but from the user side, the experience is similar:

* You pay for a copy of Windows, and install it on your Mac.

* You pay for a copy of any Windows software you need, and install it 
on the Windows "side."

* You pay a penalty in speed because VPC and Parallels both have to 
imitate Windows.

Each generation of faster machines makes the speed loss somewhat 
less. Older Windows applications that were developed for slower 
environments exhibit less slow-down, but newer resource-hungry 
applications struggle.

I'm still surprised by how nimble FM under Classic on my older TiBook 
*seems*, compared to InDesign CS2 under OS X Panther 10.3.9; partly 
this is due to Classic taking some of my maximum load of 1GB RAM, and 
my FM being set to a large memory partition under Classic, and partly 
even 1GB under OS X is borderline for ID CS2, Bridge, and Version 
Cue, without Classic. However, on my newer Windows laptop and WinXP, 
FM 7.2 is nimble enough, and has all the updated features and bug-fix 
patches that aren't available since FM 7 was discontinued on 
Macintosh.

MacTel's story is only beginning, however. Who knows what might 
happen next for FM users?


Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

At 3:58 PM -0700 4/13/06, Pat Christenson wrote:
>The NY Times had an article today about Parallels Workstation, a 
>beta software that allows you to run OS X and Windows (any version, 
>not just XP) simultaneously on an intel-powered Mac. You don't have 
>to reboot when you switch. You can copy/paste between systems. You 
>have to "network" them to share files. The free download is 
>available at http://www.parallels.com/.
>
>This sounds like the most acceptable solution for the "I don't wanna 
>buy a PC just to run FrameMaker" folks (of which I am one, although 
>I already have both a Mac and a PC).
>
>Pat Christenson