RE: Print book - separate print jobs

[Wim Hooghwinkel \(Scriptware\)]

Yes,

But my question is: using this option cteates a .ps file with name
constructed as: bookname(filename (with a left bracket in the
middle). I only want the file name as name for the .ps file.

Is there a setting somewhere to change this?


Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

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-Original Message-
From: Spreadbury, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 5:26 PM
To: Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware); Framers (Frame)
Subject: RE: Print book - separate print jobs

In the Print Book dialog under Save Book As:, select Separate File for
Each Document. This will give you separate .ps files for each chapter in
your book.


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RE: Removing x-refs before generating PDFs

[Evanth, Henrik]

 

I just want to thank all of you that replied!

Really interseting. Seems that there are pretty good solutions avaiable.

Thanks!

Best Regards
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RE: Print book - separate print jobs

[Spreadbury, David]

Either I am doing something right or I am missing something.

I am able to create individual postscript files, which are then
distilled to PDF, without any special scripts by doing the following:

==
Default printer is the Adobe PDF printer instance.

With the book file active and all chapters closed.

Select File  Print Book or select the chapters to be printed and select
Print Selected Files.

Set the following options in the Print Book or Print Selected Files in
Book dialog

Print Page Range: All
Odd-Numbered Pages
Even-Numbered pages
Print to File (Browse to the location to store the .ps files) Save Book
As: Separate File for Each Document Generate Acrobat Data

What this gives me is separate .ps files for each, or the selected,
chapter of the book.

Then you distill each of the .ps files to produce individual .pdfs of
each.
==

Each postscript file is the name of the respective chapter.

Works every time.

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m] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 6:50 AM
To: Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware); Framers (Frame)
Subject: Re: Print book - separate print jobs

Hi Wim,

There is no way to change this in the FrameMaker interface. There are
two 
ways you could script this:

1) Write a script that would open each file in the book and save it as
PDF, 
using the correct name.
2) Write a script to rename the files after they are created.

Personally, I think (1) would be a better choice.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


Yes,

But my question is: using this option cteates a .ps file with name
constructed as: bookname(filename (with a left bracket in the
middle). I only want the file name as name for the .ps file.

Is there a setting somewhere to change this?


Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

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RE: Print book - separate print jobs

[Wim Hooghwinkel \(Scriptware\)]

May be it's an Adobe PDF issue, I get this when I print to Adobe PDF
without letting it ask for the file name. I didn't try to print to .ps
yet. 


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-Original Message-
From: Rick Quatro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:10 PM
To: Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware); Spreadbury, David; Framers (Frame)
Subject: Re: Print book - separate print jobs

Hi Wim,

I don't see this behavior. I get the correct name for the PS file.

Rick

David,

your procedure is correct. The issue here is the naming of the files
produced.  

In FrameMaker until version 6, when printing to file and using an asterx
(*) for filename would produce separate files for each file in the book,
using the correct file names. But the new feature (since 7.x) using the
'Separate File for Each Document' option creates .ps files (or .pdf)
using the bookname+filename.

Isn't that the case at your site?



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Recall: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

[Grant Hogarth]

Grant Hogarth would like to recall the message, OT: Syntax for if/then 
statement.
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Re: Print book - separate print jobs

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:43:10 -0400, Rick Quatro 
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Yes, I can verify this behavior. When you print the Adobe PDF without 
checking the Print to File checkbox, the book name is prepended to the 
document name. To summarize, you have two easy workarounds.

Interesting.  I never noticed that before.  Here's a
third workaround: use runfm (free in the Mif2Go demo),
and specify the names you want on the command line.
Use one invocation for each file, and put them all
in a .bat.  That gives you one-click production of
the PDFs with any names you please.

HTH!


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Multiple Superscript Offset %s in One Document

[James Dyson]

Hello,

Does anyone know of a way to have multiple offset % settings for superscript 
within a single frame document? I was hoping there is a work-around, but in the 
official User's Guide, there is the following ominous quote:

Adjustments to the properties of subscript, superscript, and small cap text 
apply to all such text in the document.


My reserved symbol is either too low or my daggers are too high. Does anyone 
have any suggestions?


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RE: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

[Grant Hogarth]

On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted
web At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant,
wrote:
GHTo build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
GHThere also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of
action.
GH   E.g. If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you
GH [will/can/must/shall/may/ought to/...] celebrate...
GH
GH- If A, then B (explicit consequence, 
GH implied (but not required) order)
GH- If A and B (explicit connection, both elements required)
GH- If A, and then B (explicit consequence, conditions must 
GH occur in fixed order)
GH- If A, B (explict set construction with tacit connection, 
GH but no required sequence)
GH
GHIn the first three of these, the time separation element 
GHis implied as a requirement;

web Sorry, but that's not so. 

I will grant you that it's not mathematically *complete* g
No excuse... I simply got lazy.

web My example in a previous message has no time element and 
web satisfies the first just fine thank you. It's not necessary 
web that these things are sequences of instructions, they can 
web be existing conditions, which is how the constructs arise 
web in logic and in programming any kind of logic based system.

Good point.  And one that I neglected to clearly address. Let me remedy
that.

To my way of thinking, the notion of condition intrinsically implies a
time element, as a condition is presumed to be in one of three states
(and state transition is instantaneous):
  * currently existing 
  * currently not existing
  * currently not determinable (usually treated as not existing)

  SIDEBAR
  There are also the more esoteric cases, such as:
  * previously existing, but currently not existing
  * previously not existing, but currently existing and  
 continuing to exist (roughly equivalent to bullet 1 above)
  * previously existing, but currently not determinable 
  * previously not existing, but currently not determinable 
  *  ...
  /SIDEBAR

Given that we are observing from a time-bound environment, a state
transition, while taking no time in and of itself, creates a before
and after by the act of occurring.
If 'A' is a precondition for 'B', then 'A' perforce must exist prior to
'B'.
If 'B' already exists, then the occurrance of 'A' does not alter it;
instead creating 'C', which is pretty much the same as the first case.

web Further, the first instance is a complete notion. 

I can see how you got there. It really is only a portion of the larger
statement 
If A and B, then C. 

web The second and third are not and require a consequence to 
web complete the statement. The last is totally unclear to me. 
web Is it if A and B or if A or B or if A given B or 
web something else? It is not possible to ascertain from what 
web you've written.

Apologies -- have been doing too many chart equations of late. g
I can see that my statement is unclear; I intended 
If (A,B) where B is the identity of a particular instance of A.

Does that help?

Grant
Realizing just how long it has been since he has had to write explicit
formal logic. smile
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RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

[Jon Harvey]

Here is the procedure I pulled off this list years ago. It's been
sitting either in, on, under, or behind my desk for what seems like
forever. Does it still hold true with the current software out there?

1. Save the file in Visio as a PDF.
2. Open the PDF in Acrobat.
3. Save the Acrobat file as and EPS, with TIFF preview/fonts embedded.
4. Import the EPS into FrameMaker.
Note: The image may look fuzzy in FM when imported. Remember, this is
the TIFF preview, not the printed page.

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Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

FrameMaker does NOT have the ability to import Visio native
files. It does have the ability to use OLE (object linking 
and embedding) links to such a Viso document file, but that
requires that Visio be installed on the system that runs
FrameMaker. Also, OLE is notoriously unreliable.

- Dov
 

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 Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:54 AM
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 Subject: Re: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
 
 At 07:40 -0700 28/6/06, Roopa Belur wrote:
 
   My apologies for not being clear. My company uses 
 Microsoft Word. They are considering moving to Frame in the 
 next few months.
  
 I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without 
 Distiller or any Adobe product.
 
 Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio 
 to PDF so that you can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are 
 you? Because if so, I don't think you need to bother: PC 
 FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so I've 
 been told - I don't use Visio).
 -- 
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Re: Multiple Superscript Offset %s in One Document

[Art Campbell]

There is only one super setting for a document: Format  Document 
Text Options,
but I've found that reducing the font size of the Register and TM both
makes it look better
and seems to float it up a little higher.

Also, a quick question... When you insert the R or whatever, you're
then applying the Super Character tag to it, correct? You need to both
insert it and format it; a two-step process.

Art

On 6/30/06, James Dyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone know of a way to have multiple offset % settings for superscript 
within a single frame document? I was hoping there is a work-around, but in the 
official User's Guide, there is the following ominous quote:

Adjustments to the properties of subscript, superscript, and small cap text apply 
to all such text in the document.



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Re: Multiple Superscript Offset %s in One Document

[Steve Rickaby]

At 12:17 -0400 30/6/06, James Dyson wrote:

My reserved symbol is either too low or my daggers are too high. Does anyone 
have any suggestions?

Yes, but you won't like it.

Assuming that you can get a superscript setting that is ok for most of your 
superscripts, isolate the problem one(s) and put them in a one-character text 
box contained within an 'at insertion point' anchored frame tacked onto the 
letter that precedes the superscripted character. Copy and paste as required.

Downside: it's fiddly. Upside: you can set any size and position of the 
superscripted character by massing with font sizes/character formats and 
nudging the text box up and down within the anchored frame.

I expect someone will have a better (or, at least, slightly less demented) 
idea. It's Friday, my brain got fried by Larry's video. Oh, that was the 'Fm 
for OS X' group...
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Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional

[Art Campbell]

In Frame, on the Print dialog box, did you activate a setting from the
Registration Marks menu?

Art

On 6/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Framers,

FrameMaker 7.0p578
Adobe Acrobat 7 Professinal

I created a document in FM with a custom-sized page – 6.5 x 9 and then
created a PDF. In Acrobat, I went to Tools/Print Production/Add
Printer Makrs and enabled Trim Marks. I printed the document on 8.5 x
11 paper, but there are no marks in the corners to show the boundaries
of the page.

I haven't done this before, so maybe this is not the correct method.
Can someone please tell me how to print a smaller page on a larger
paper with makrs in the corners to delineate the boundaries of the
page?



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Re: Creating a Line Separtor in Frame

[Art Campbell]

I'd create a new tag called Line, and on the Advanced properties tab
of Paragraph designer, set the Frame Below (or Above) to call the
SingleLine frame from the Reference Page.

When you're answered your question, hit Enter and set the paragraph tag to Line.

Art

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Hi:
I'm creating a QA and I want to separate each question and answer pair
with a horizontal line.

I've never done this before and I'm wondering the easiest way to handle it.

As an aside, do I need to apply a style to these lines, so that Web
Works recognizes it?


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Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional

[Stuart Rogers]

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I hadn't, but I just went in and selected Western for the Registration 
Marks, follow all the steps as before, and still it prints without the 
trim marks.


Any other suggestions? Art? Anyone?

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From: Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: framers@frameusers.com

In Frame, on the Print dialog box, did you activate a setting from 

the

Registration Marks menu?

Art

On 6/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

wrote:

Hi Framers,

FrameMaker 7.0p578
Adobe Acrobat 7 Professinal

I created a document in FM with a custom-sized page – 6.5 x 9 

and then

created a PDF. In Acrobat, I went to Tools/Print Production/Add
Printer Makrs and enabled Trim Marks. I printed the document on 

8.5 x
11 paper, but there are no marks in the corners to show the 

boundaries of the page.
I haven't done this before, so maybe this is not the correct 

method.

Can someone please tell me how to print a smaller page on a larger
paper with makrs in the corners to delineate the boundaries of the
page?




Pearl,

When you create the PDF, are you specifying a page size larger than your 
FM page size?


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Re: Creating a Line Separtor in Frame

[Stuart Rogers]

Ron Miller wrote:

Hi:
I'm creating a QA and I want to separate each question and answer pair 
with a horizontal line.


I've never done this before and I'm wondering the easiest way to handle it.

As an aside, do I need to apply a style to these lines, so that Web 
Works recognizes it?




In your pgf tag definition, on the Advanced tab, select a Frame Above 
Pgf or Frame Below Pgf. You can use one of the default choices or create 
your own on a reference page (that's where the defaults reside). Play 
around with the height of the frame containing your horizontal rule, and 
the position of the rule within the frame, to change the space 
above/below your QA pairs.


HTH,

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Technical Communicator
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Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional

[pearlrosenberg]

Yes, when I print from FM, I am getting the trim marks.

- Original Message -
From: Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sorry -- I may have asked the wrong question. When you queue it to a
 regular printer
 from FRAME, do you get registration marks?
 
 Art
 
 On 6/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  No.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:30 pm
  Subject: Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   If you queue it to a regular printer, to the registration marks
   show up?
  
   Art
  
   On 6/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
I hadn't, but I just went in and selected Western for the
   Registration Marks, follow all the steps as before, and still it
   prints without the
trim marks.
   
Any other suggestions? Art? Anyone?
   
- Original Message -
From: Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: framers@frameusers.com
   
 In Frame, on the Print dialog box, did you activate a setting
  from
the
 Registration Marks menu?

 Art

 On 6/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   wrote:
  Hi Framers,
 
  FrameMaker 7.0p578
  Adobe Acrobat 7 Professinal
 
  I created a document in FM with a custom-sized page – 
 6.5 x 9
 and then
  created a PDF. In Acrobat, I went to Tools/Print 
 Production/Add Printer Makrs and enabled Trim Marks. I 
 printed the document on
 8.5 x
  11 paper, but there are no marks in the corners to show the
 boundaries of the page.
 
  I haven't done this before, so maybe this is not the 
correct
method.
  Can someone please tell me how to print a smaller page 
 on a
   larger   paper with makrs in the corners to delineate the
   boundaries of the
  page?


 --
 Art Campbell
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ... In my opinion, there's 
 nothing in
 this world beats a '52 Vincent
   and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

   
  
  
   --
   Art Campbell
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   this world beats a '52 Vincent
 and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
   No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358
  
 
 
 
 -- 
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Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional

[Fred Ridder]

Ahh, now I remeber the trick! To get registration marks in
PDF you have to turn the Include Acrobat Data option
*OFF*.  The reasoning is that you only use registration marks
in print, where hyperlinks and Acrobat bookmarks and other
interactive features are extraneous.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:42:46 -0400

Yes, when I print from FM, I am getting the trim marks.

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Subject: Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sorry -- I may have asked the wrong question. When you queue it to a
 regular printer
 from FRAME, do you get registration marks?

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RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

[Dov Isaacs]

Yes, the advice (I gave it) still holds.
No reason why it shouldn't!

- Dov 

 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:32 AM
 To: Dov Isaacs; Steve Rickaby; framers@FrameUsers.com
 Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
 
 Here is the procedure I pulled off this list years ago. It's been
 sitting either in, on, under, or behind my desk for what seems like
 forever. Does it still hold true with the current software out there?
 
 1. Save the file in Visio as a PDF.
 2. Open the PDF in Acrobat.
 3. Save the Acrobat file as and EPS, with TIFF preview/fonts embedded.
 4. Import the EPS into FrameMaker.
 Note: The image may look fuzzy in FM when imported. Remember, this is
 the TIFF preview, not the printed page.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 sers.com]
 On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs
 Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:21 PM
 To: Steve Rickaby; framers@FrameUsers.com
 Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
 
 FrameMaker does NOT have the ability to import Visio native
 files. It does have the ability to use OLE (object linking 
 and embedding) links to such a Viso document file, but that
 requires that Visio be installed on the system that runs
 FrameMaker. Also, OLE is notoriously unreliable.
 
   - Dov
  
 
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   On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
  Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:54 AM
  To: framers@FrameUsers.com
  Subject: Re: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
  
  At 07:40 -0700 28/6/06, Roopa Belur wrote:
  
My apologies for not being clear. My company uses 
  Microsoft Word. They are considering moving to Frame in the 
  next few months.
   
  I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without 
  Distiller or any Adobe product.
  
  Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio 
  to PDF so that you can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are 
  you? Because if so, I don't think you need to bother: PC 
  FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so I've 
  been told - I don't use Visio).
  -- 
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Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional

[Art Campbell]

You the man, Fred!
I couldn't remember the switch either!

Art

On 6/30/06, Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ahh, now I remeber the trick! To get registration marks in
PDF you have to turn the Include Acrobat Data option
*OFF*.  The reasoning is that you only use registration marks
in print, where hyperlinks and Acrobat bookmarks and other
interactive features are extraneous.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: framers@frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:42:46 -0400

Yes, when I print from FM, I am getting the trim marks.

- Original Message -
From: Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Sorry -- I may have asked the wrong question. When you queue it to a
  regular printer
  from FRAME, do you get registration marks?
 
  Art




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referenced graphics

[obai...@comcast.net]

After some more testing, I see that I can make the word file using mif2go sans 
images, just placeholders, then in the new word doc do Edit>Links, then pick 
the graphics links, then click Update, and they show up as referenced images.

Whew!  Glad I don't have to use word often.

Thanks, jeremy.  

Paul

 -- Original message --
From: obai...@comcast.net
> Does that mean that, if I pick Do not Write Equations, and hide the BMPs that 
> [GraphFiles] tif=bmp points to, that I will get empty frames where the images 
> would be?
> 
> If after generation I then put the BMPs in the same folder as the word file, 
> and 
> re-open the word file, will they appear as linked images?
> 
> Paul
> 
>  -- Original message --
> From: "Jeremy H. Griffith" 
> > On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:28:10 +, obair81 at comcast.net 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > >Does anyone know if there is a way to make mif2go 
> > >produce an rtf file that has linked graphics, rather 
> > >than embedded graphics?  This would be from a frame 
> > >file with referenced graphics.
> > 
> > It's possible, but not advisable.  The trouble is that
> > Word does not permit scaling of such graphics in RTF;
> > for the graphic to appear at the correct size, it must 
> > be in an embedded WMF in the RTF.
> > 
> > That said, if you simply make sure that Mif2Go cannot
> > find (or generate) the referenced graphic in WMF or BMP 
> > form, it will be unable to embed, and you will get a 
> > reference instead.  This is *not* recommended, but it 
> > does work.
> > 
> > -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
> > http://www.omsys.com/
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Print book - separate print jobs

[Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware)]

Yes,

But my question is: using this option cteates a .ps file with name
constructed as: ( (with a left bracket in the
middle). I only want the file name as name for the .ps file.

Is there a setting somewhere to change this?


Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel wimh at scriptware.nl
DTP and XML Management

Scriptware bv http://www.scriptware.nl
tel : +31 (0)23 548 48 84
fax : +31 (0)23 548 48 85
http://www.scriptware.nl
info at scriptware.nl info at scriptware.nl 


-Original Message-
From: Spreadbury, David [mailto:david.spreadb...@tellabs.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 5:26 PM
To: Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware); Framers (Frame)
Subject: RE: Print book - separate print jobs

In the Print Book dialog under Save Book As:, select Separate File for
Each Document. This will give you separate .ps files for each chapter in
your book.

Generating lists for review

[Evanth, Henrik]

Thanks to all that replied. 
Now we have to sit down to see which stratgy that will help us the best

Best Regards
/Henrik

Removing x-refs before generating PDFs

[Evanth, Henrik]

I just want to thank all of you that replied!

Really interseting. Seems that there are pretty good solutions avaiable.

Thanks!

Best Regards
/Henrik

Print book - separate print jobs

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Wim,

There is no way to change this in the FrameMaker interface. There are two 
ways you could script this:

1) Write a script that would open each file in the book and save it as PDF, 
using the correct name.
2) Write a script to rename the files after they are created.

Personally, I think (1) would be a better choice.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


Yes,

But my question is: using this option cteates a .ps file with name
constructed as: ( (with a left bracket in the
middle). I only want the file name as name for the .ps file.

Is there a setting somewhere to change this?


Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel wimh at scriptware.nl
DTP and XML Management

Scriptware bv http://www.scriptware.nl
tel : +31 (0)23 548 48 84
fax : +31 (0)23 548 48 85
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Print book - separate print jobs

[Spreadbury, David]

Either I am doing something right or I am missing something.

I am able to create individual postscript files, which are then
distilled to PDF, without any special scripts by doing the following:

==
Default printer is the Adobe PDF printer instance.

With the book file active and all chapters closed.

Select File > Print Book or select the chapters to be printed and select
Print Selected Files.

Set the following options in the Print Book or Print Selected Files in
Book dialog

Print Page Range: All
Odd-Numbered Pages
Even-Numbered pages
Print to File (Browse to the location to store the .ps files) Save Book
As: Separate File for Each Document Generate Acrobat Data

What this gives me is separate .ps files for each, or the selected,
chapter of the book.

Then you distill each of the .ps files to produce individual .pdfs of
each.
==

Each postscript file is the name of the respective chapter.

Works every time.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs.com at lists.frameusers.co
m] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 6:50 AM
To: Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware); Framers (Frame)
Subject: Re: Print book - separate print jobs

Hi Wim,

There is no way to change this in the FrameMaker interface. There are
two 
ways you could script this:

1) Write a script that would open each file in the book and save it as
PDF, 
using the correct name.
2) Write a script to rename the files after they are created.

Personally, I think (1) would be a better choice.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


Yes,

But my question is: using this option cteates a .ps file with name
constructed as: ( (with a left bracket in the
middle). I only want the file name as name for the .ps file.

Is there a setting somewhere to change this?


Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel wimh at scriptware.nl
DTP and XML Management

Scriptware bv http://www.scriptware.nl
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fax : +31 (0)23 548 48 85
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Print book - separate print jobs

[Rick Quatro]

Hi David,

You are right. I just tried it with both Save As PDF and printing to file. 
In both cases, I don't get the book name on the front of the file name.

I am using FrameMaker 7.2 for Windows.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



Either I am doing something right or I am missing something.

I am able to create individual postscript files, which are then
distilled to PDF, without any special scripts by doing the following:

==
Default printer is the Adobe PDF printer instance.

With the book file active and all chapters closed.

Select File > Print Book or select the chapters to be printed and select
Print Selected Files.

Set the following options in the Print Book or Print Selected Files in
Book dialog

Print Page Range: All
Odd-Numbered Pages
Even-Numbered pages
Print to File (Browse to the location to store the .ps files) Save Book
As: Separate File for Each Document Generate Acrobat Data

What this gives me is separate .ps files for each, or the selected,
chapter of the book.

Then you distill each of the .ps files to produce individual .pdfs of
each.
==

Each postscript file is the name of the respective chapter.

Works every time.

Print book - separate print jobs

[Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware)]

David,

your procedure is correct. The issue here is the naming of the files
produced.  

In FrameMaker until version 6, when printing to file and using an asterx
(*) for filename would produce separate files for each file in the book,
using the correct file names. But the new feature (since 7.x) using the
'Separate File for Each Document' option creates .ps files (or .pdf)
using the bookname+filename.

Isn't that the case at your site?



Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel wimh at scriptware.nl
DTP and XML Management

Scriptware bv http://www.scriptware.nl
tel : +31 (0)23 548 48 84
fax : +31 (0)23 548 48 85
http://www.scriptware.nl
info at scriptware.nl info at scriptware.nl 

-Original Message-
From: Spreadbury, David [mailto:david.spreadb...@tellabs.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:56 PM
To: Rick Quatro; Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware); Framers (Frame)
Subject: RE: Print book - separate print jobs

Either I am doing something right or I am missing something.

I am able to create individual postscript files, which are then
distilled to PDF, without any special scripts by doing the following:

==
Default printer is the Adobe PDF printer instance.

With the book file active and all chapters closed.

Select File > Print Book or select the chapters to be printed and select
Print Selected Files.

Set the following options in the Print Book or Print Selected Files in
Book dialog

Print Page Range: All
Odd-Numbered Pages
Even-Numbered pages
Print to File (Browse to the location to store the .ps files) Save Book
As: Separate File for Each Document Generate Acrobat Data

What this gives me is separate .ps files for each, or the selected,
chapter of the book.

Then you distill each of the .ps files to produce individual .pdfs of
each.
==

Each postscript file is the name of the respective chapter.

Works every time.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs.com at lists.frameusers.co
m] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 6:50 AM
To: Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware); Framers (Frame)
Subject: Re: Print book - separate print jobs

Hi Wim,

There is no way to change this in the FrameMaker interface. There are
two ways you could script this:

1) Write a script that would open each file in the book and save it as
PDF, using the correct name.
2) Write a script to rename the files after they are created.

Personally, I think (1) would be a better choice.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


Yes,

But my question is: using this option cteates a .ps file with name
constructed as: ( (with a left bracket in the
middle). I only want the file name as name for the .ps file.

Is there a setting somewhere to change this?


Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel wimh at scriptware.nl
DTP and XML Management

Scriptware bv http://www.scriptware.nl
tel : +31 (0)23 548 48 84
fax : +31 (0)23 548 48 85
http://www.scriptware.nl
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[Scott Abel]

Adobe FrameMaker 2006 Chautauqua
November 8-10, 2006
Austin, Texas USA
http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/chautindex.html

Hello Framers!

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registration in early. Building on the moment from last year's 
Chautauqua and the excitement of X-Pubs in London, UK last week (adobe 
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Print book - separate print jobs

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Wim,

I don't see this behavior. I get the correct name for the PS file.

Rick

David,

your procedure is correct. The issue here is the naming of the files
produced.  

In FrameMaker until version 6, when printing to file and using an asterx
(*) for filename would produce separate files for each file in the book,
using the correct file names. But the new feature (since 7.x) using the
'Separate File for Each Document' option creates .ps files (or .pdf)
using the bookname+filename.

Isn't that the case at your site?



Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel wimh at scriptware.nl
DTP and XML Management

Scriptware bv http://www.scriptware.nl
tel : +31 (0)23 548 48 84
fax : +31 (0)23 548 48 85
http://www.scriptware.nl
info at scriptware.nl info at scriptware.nl 

Print book - separate print jobs

[Spreadbury, David]

If memory serves me (sometimes it takes a day off) in Frame 6.x you
needed to change the filename to *.ps, as you stated. I am using Frame
7.0 and it doesn't need this additional step.

With the steps I posted earlier I get individual chapter filenames.

Are you changing the filename that appears in Print To File...?

Leave that to whatever is displayed (bookname.ps). Just click Browse and
point to the folder you want the postscript files stored.

-Original Message-
From: Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware) [mailto:w...@scriptware.nl] 
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 7:47 AM
To: Spreadbury, David; Rick Quatro; Framers (Frame)
Subject: RE: Print book - separate print jobs

David,

your procedure is correct. The issue here is the naming of the files
produced.  

In FrameMaker until version 6, when printing to file and using an asterx
(*) for filename would produce separate files for each file in the book,
using the correct file names. But the new feature (since 7.x) using the
'Separate File for Each Document' option creates .ps files (or .pdf)
using the bookname+filename.

Isn't that the case at your site?



Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel wimh at scriptware.nl
DTP and XML Management

Scriptware bv http://www.scriptware.nl
tel : +31 (0)23 548 48 84
fax : +31 (0)23 548 48 85
http://www.scriptware.nl
info at scriptware.nl info at scriptware.nl 

-Original Message-
From: Spreadbury, David [mailto:david.spreadb...@tellabs.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:56 PM
To: Rick Quatro; Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware); Framers (Frame)
Subject: RE: Print book - separate print jobs

Either I am doing something right or I am missing something.

I am able to create individual postscript files, which are then
distilled to PDF, without any special scripts by doing the following:

==
Default printer is the Adobe PDF printer instance.

With the book file active and all chapters closed.

Select File > Print Book or select the chapters to be printed and select
Print Selected Files.

Set the following options in the Print Book or Print Selected Files in
Book dialog

Print Page Range: All
Odd-Numbered Pages
Even-Numbered pages
Print to File (Browse to the location to store the .ps files) Save Book
As: Separate File for Each Document Generate Acrobat Data

What this gives me is separate .ps files for each, or the selected,
chapter of the book.

Then you distill each of the .ps files to produce individual .pdfs of
each.
==

Each postscript file is the name of the respective chapter.

Works every time.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs.com at lists.frameusers.co
m] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 6:50 AM
To: Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware); Framers (Frame)
Subject: Re: Print book - separate print jobs

Hi Wim,

There is no way to change this in the FrameMaker interface. There are
two ways you could script this:

1) Write a script that would open each file in the book and save it as
PDF, using the correct name.
2) Write a script to rename the files after they are created.

Personally, I think (1) would be a better choice.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


Yes,

But my question is: using this option cteates a .ps file with name
constructed as: ( (with a left bracket in the
middle). I only want the file name as name for the .ps file.

Is there a setting somewhere to change this?


Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel wimh at scriptware.nl
DTP and XML Management

The information contained in this message may be privileged
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Print book - separate print jobs

[Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware)]

May be it's an Adobe PDF issue, I get this when I print to Adobe PDF
without letting it ask for the file name. I didn't try to print to .ps
yet. 


Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel wimh at scriptware.nl
DTP and XML Management

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-Original Message-
From: Rick Quatro [mailto:frameexp...@truevine.net] 
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:10 PM
To: Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware); Spreadbury, David; Framers (Frame)
Subject: Re: Print book - separate print jobs

Hi Wim,

I don't see this behavior. I get the correct name for the PS file.

Rick

David,

your procedure is correct. The issue here is the naming of the files
produced.  

In FrameMaker until version 6, when printing to file and using an asterx
(*) for filename would produce separate files for each file in the book,
using the correct file names. But the new feature (since 7.x) using the
'Separate File for Each Document' option creates .ps files (or .pdf)
using the bookname+filename.

Isn't that the case at your site?



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Print book - separate print jobs

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Wim,

Yes, I can verify this behavior. When you print the Adobe PDF without 
checking the Print to File checkbox, the book name is prepended to the 
document name. To summarize, you have two easy workarounds.

1) Print to file, then drag and drop the PS files to Distiller to distill 
them all.
2) Use Save As PDF and check Generate Separate PDF Document for Each 
Selected File.

In my opinion, (2) is the easiest and best choice.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

May be it's an Adobe PDF issue, I get this when I print to Adobe PDF
without letting it ask for the file name. I didn't try to print to .ps
yet.


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OT: Syntax for if/then statement

[Grant Hogarth]

On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted
At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote:
GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
GH>>There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of
action.
GH>>   E.g. "If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you
GH>> [will/can/must/shall/may/ought to/...] celebrate..."
GH>>
GH>>- If A, then B (explicit consequence, implied (but not required)
GH>>order)
GH>>- If A and B   (explicit connection, both elements required)
GH>>- If A, and then B (explicit consequence, conditions must occur 
GH>>in fixed order)
GH>>- If A, B  (explict set construction with tacit connection, 
GH>>but no required sequence)
GH>>
GH>>In the first three of these, the time separation element is implied 
GH>>as a requirement;

web> Sorry, but that's not so. 

I will grant you that it's not mathematically *complete* 

web> My example in a previous message has no time element and 
web> satisfies the first just fine thank you. It's not necessary that
these things are sequences of instructions, they can be existing
conditions, which is how the constructs arise in logic and in
programming any kind of logic based system.

 Further, the first instance is a complete notion. The second and third
are not and require a consequence to complete the statement. The last is
totally unclear to me. Is it "if A and B" or "if A or B" or "if A given
B" or something else? It is not possible to ascertain from what you've
written.

- web

Recall: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

[Grant Hogarth]

Grant Hogarth would like to recall the message, "OT: Syntax for if/then 
statement".

Print book - separate print jobs

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:43:10 -0400, "Rick Quatro" 
 wrote:

>Yes, I can verify this behavior. When you print the Adobe PDF without 
>checking the Print to File checkbox, the book name is prepended to the 
>document name. To summarize, you have two easy workarounds.

Interesting.  I never noticed that before.  Here's a
third workaround: use runfm (free in the Mif2Go demo),
and specify the names you want on the command line.
Use one invocation for each file, and put them all
in a .bat.  That gives you one-click production of
the PDFs with any names you please.

HTH!


-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Multiple Superscript Offset %s in One Document

[James Dyson]

Hello,

Does anyone know of a way to have multiple offset % settings for superscript 
within a single frame document? I was hoping there is a work-around, but in the 
official User's Guide, there is the following ominous quote:

"Adjustments to the properties of subscript, superscript, and small cap text 
apply to all such text in the document."


My reserved symbol is either too low or my daggers are too high. Does anyone 
have any suggestions?


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OT: Syntax for if/then statement

[Grant Hogarth]

On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted
web> At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant,
wrote:
GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
GH>>There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of
action.
GH>>   E.g. "If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you
GH>> [will/can/must/shall/may/ought to/...] celebrate..."
GH>>
GH>>- If A, then B (explicit consequence, 
GH>> implied (but not required) order)
GH>>- If A and B (explicit connection, both elements required)
GH>>- If A, and then B (explicit consequence, conditions must 
GH>> occur in fixed order)
GH>>- If A, B (explict set construction with tacit connection, 
GH>> but no required sequence)
GH>>
GH>>In the first three of these, the time separation element 
GH>>is implied as a requirement;

web> Sorry, but that's not so. 

I will grant you that it's not mathematically *complete* 
No excuse... I simply got lazy.

web> My example in a previous message has no time element and 
web> satisfies the first just fine thank you. It's not necessary 
web> that these things are sequences of instructions, they can 
web> be existing conditions, which is how the constructs arise 
web> in logic and in programming any kind of logic based system.

Good point.  And one that I neglected to clearly address. Let me remedy
that.

To my way of thinking, the notion of "condition" intrinsically implies a
time element, as a condition is presumed to be in one of three states
(and state transition is instantaneous):
  * currently existing 
  * currently not existing
  * currently not determinable (usually treated as "not existing")

  
  There are also the more esoteric cases, such as:
  * previously existing, but currently not existing
  * previously not existing, but currently existing and  
 continuing to exist (roughly equivalent to bullet 1 above)
  * previously existing, but currently not determinable 
  * previously not existing, but currently not determinable 
  *  ...
  

Given that we are observing from a time-bound environment, a state
transition, while taking no time in and of itself, creates a "before"
and "after" by the act of occurring.
If 'A' is a precondition for 'B', then 'A' perforce must exist prior to
'B'.
If 'B' already exists, then the occurrance of 'A' does not alter it;
instead creating 'C', which is pretty much the same as the first case.

web> Further, the first instance is a complete notion. 

I can see how you got there. It really is only a portion of the larger
statement 
"If A and B, then C". 

web> The second and third are not and require a consequence to 
web> complete the statement. The last is totally unclear to me. 
web> Is it "if A and B" or "if A or B" or "if A given B" or 
web> something else? It is not possible to ascertain from what 
web> you've written.

Apologies -- have been doing too many chart equations of late. 
I can see that my statement is unclear; I intended 
"If (A,B)" where B is the identity of a particular instance of A.

Does that help?

Grant
Realizing just how long it has been since he has had to write explicit
formal logic. 

OT: Syntax for if/then statement

[Stuart Rogers]

Grant Hogarth wrote:
> On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted
> web> At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant,
> wrote:
> GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
...
> Realizing just how long it has been since he has had to write explicit
> formal logic. 

Perhaps it is time to take this REALLY REALLY REALLY OFF-TOPIC 
discussion off-line?

Thank you,

-- 
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
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Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

[Jon Harvey]

Here is the procedure I pulled off this list years ago. It's been
sitting either in, on, under, or behind my desk for what seems like
forever. Does it still hold true with the current software out there?

"1. Save the file in Visio as a PDF.
2. Open the PDF in Acrobat.
3. Save the Acrobat file as and EPS, with TIFF preview/fonts embedded.
4. Import the EPS into FrameMaker.
Note: The image may look fuzzy in FM when imported. Remember, this is
the TIFF preview, not the printed page."

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft.com at lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:21 PM
To: Steve Rickaby; framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

FrameMaker does NOT have the ability to import "Visio native
files." It does have the ability to use OLE (object linking 
and embedding) links to such a Viso document file, but that
requires that Visio be installed on the system that runs
FrameMaker. Also, OLE is notoriously unreliable.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com]
>  On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:54 AM
> To: framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: Re: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
> 
> At 07:40 -0700 28/6/06, Roopa Belur wrote:
> 
> >  My apologies for not being clear. My company uses 
> Microsoft Word. They are considering moving to Frame in the 
> next few months.
> > 
> >I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without 
> Distiller or any Adobe product.
> 
> Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio 
> to PDF so that you can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are 
> you? Because if so, I don't think you need to bother: PC 
> FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so I've 
> been told - I don't use Visio).
> -- 
> Steve
> 
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Multiple Superscript Offset %s in One Document

[Ridder, Fred]

If you don't need to use subscripting, you can set the Subscript
properties to produce an alternative superscript result. But if
you need both subscript and superscript, you're stuck I think.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
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[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of James Dyson
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 12:17 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Multiple Superscript Offset %s in One Document

Hello,

Does anyone know of a way to have multiple offset % settings for
superscript within a single frame document? I was hoping there is a
work-around, but in the official User's Guide, there is the following
ominous quote:

"Adjustments to the properties of subscript, superscript, and small cap
text apply to all such text in the document."


My reserved symbol is either too low or my daggers are too high. Does
anyone have any suggestions?


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Multiple Superscript Offset %s in One Document

[Art Campbell]

There is only one super setting for a document: Format > Document >
Text Options,
but I've found that reducing the font size of the Register and TM both
makes it look better
and seems to float it up a little higher.

Also, a quick question... When you insert the R or whatever, you're
then applying the Super Character tag to it, correct? You need to both
insert it and format it; a two-step process.

Art

On 6/30/06, James Dyson  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone know of a way to have multiple offset % settings for superscript 
> within a single frame document? I was hoping there is a work-around, but in 
> the official User's Guide, there is the following ominous quote:
>
> "Adjustments to the properties of subscript, superscript, and small cap text 
> apply to all such text in the document."


-- 
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gmail.com
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   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

Multiple Superscript Offset %s in One Document

[Steve Rickaby]

At 12:17 -0400 30/6/06, James Dyson wrote:

>My reserved symbol is either too low or my daggers are too high. Does anyone 
>have any suggestions?

Yes, but you won't like it.

Assuming that you can get a superscript setting that is ok for most of your 
superscripts, isolate the problem one(s) and put them in a one-character text 
box contained within an 'at insertion point' anchored frame tacked onto the 
letter that precedes the superscripted character. Copy and paste as required.

Downside: it's fiddly. Upside: you can set any size and position of the 
superscripted character by massing with font sizes/character formats and 
nudging the text box up and down within the anchored frame.

I expect someone will have a better (or, at least, slightly less demented) 
idea. It's Friday, my brain got fried by Larry's video. Oh, that was the 'Fm 
for OS X' group...
-- 
Steve

Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

[Ridder, Fred]

Well, Visio 2003 does not provide PDF (or EPS) as options in the
Save As dialog, so your procedure is clearly out of date.  It seems
that when Microsoft took over Visio they decided to finally remove 
the chronically broken EPS export filter that Visio users had 
suffered with for so long, and Save As PDF apparently went the
same route (if it ever existed in Visio to begin with) since neither
file format is a Microsoft invention. 

You can certainly *print* Visio to PDF if you have Acrobat, but 
at that point you're probably better off importing the PDF into 
FrameMaker rather than converting it to EPS because you'll 
get a better on-screen display. Converting PDF to EPS before 
importing used to be a requirement in older versions of FrameMaker 
(5.5.6, IIRC) which didn't import PDF correctly. But for current 
versions, importing PDF is no problem and that approach has 
the potential advantage of being able to contain multiple pages 
in one PDF as opposed to one file per image for EPS. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



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[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Jon Harvey
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 12:32 PM
To: Dov Isaacs; Steve Rickaby; framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

Here is the procedure I pulled off this list years ago. It's been
sitting either in, on, under, or behind my desk for what seems like
forever. Does it still hold true with the current software out there?

"1. Save the file in Visio as a PDF.
2. Open the PDF in Acrobat.
3. Save the Acrobat file as and EPS, with TIFF preview/fonts embedded.
4. Import the EPS into FrameMaker.
Note: The image may look fuzzy in FM when imported. Remember, this is
the TIFF preview, not the printed page."

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft.com at lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:21 PM
To: Steve Rickaby; framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

FrameMaker does NOT have the ability to import "Visio native
files." It does have the ability to use OLE (object linking 
and embedding) links to such a Viso document file, but that
requires that Visio be installed on the system that runs
FrameMaker. Also, OLE is notoriously unreliable.

- Dov

Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

[T.W. Smith]

I thought having Adobe Acrobat was pretty much a necessity for technical
writers?

Still, Visio 2003 does, I think, save as SVG. Perhaps FrameMaker 7.1+ can
use that?

As for PDF or EPS, I think PDF is more processing and overhead for
FrameMaker; you might care if you use a ton of PDFs.

==
T.


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Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional

[pearlrosenb...@nc.rr.com]

Hi Framers,

FrameMaker 7.0p578
Adobe Acrobat 7 Professinal

I created a document in FM with a custom-sized page ? 6.5 x 9 and then 
created a PDF. In Acrobat, I went to Tools/Print Production/Add 
Printer Makrs and enabled Trim Marks. I printed the document on 8.5 x 
11 paper, but there are no marks in the corners to show the boundaries 
of the page.

I haven't done this before, so maybe this is not the correct method. 
Can someone please tell me how to print a smaller page on a larger 
paper with makrs in the corners to delineate the boundaries of the 
page?

Many thanks.
Pearl Rosenberg
TeleHealth Services

Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional

[Art Campbell]

In Frame, on the Print dialog box, did you activate a setting from the
Registration Marks menu?

Art

On 6/30/06, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com  wrote:
> Hi Framers,
>
> FrameMaker 7.0p578
> Adobe Acrobat 7 Professinal
>
> I created a document in FM with a custom-sized page ? 6.5 x 9 and then
> created a PDF. In Acrobat, I went to Tools/Print Production/Add
> Printer Makrs and enabled Trim Marks. I printed the document on 8.5 x
> 11 paper, but there are no marks in the corners to show the boundaries
> of the page.
>
> I haven't done this before, so maybe this is not the correct method.
> Can someone please tell me how to print a smaller page on a larger
> paper with makrs in the corners to delineate the boundaries of the
> page?


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 No disclaimers apply.
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Multiple Superscript Offset %s in One Document

[Stuart Rogers]

James Dyson wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Does anyone know of a way to have multiple offset % settings for
> superscript within a single frame document? I was hoping there is a
> work-around, but in the official User's Guide, there is the following
> ominous quote:
> 
> "Adjustments to the properties of subscript, superscript, and small
> cap text apply to all such text in the document."
> 
> 
> My reserved symbol is either too low or my daggers are too high. Does
> anyone have any suggestions?

A clumsy override: select the character whose position you don't like 
and use Alt + Arrow keys to move it up or down.


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Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Creating a Line Separtor in Frame

[Ron Miller]

Hi:
I'm creating a Q and I want to separate each question and answer pair 
with a horizontal line.

I've never done this before and I'm wondering the easiest way to handle it.

As an aside, do I need to apply a style to these lines, so that Web 
Works recognizes it?

Thanks,
Ron

Creating a Line Separtor in Frame

[Art Campbell]

I'd create a new tag called Line, and on the Advanced properties tab
of Paragraph designer, set the Frame Below (or Above) to call the
SingleLine frame from the Reference Page.

When you're answered your question, hit Enter and set the paragraph tag to Line.

Art

On 6/30/06, Ron Miller  wrote:
> Hi:
> I'm creating a Q and I want to separate each question and answer pair
> with a horizontal line.
>
> I've never done this before and I'm wondering the easiest way to handle it.
>
> As an aside, do I need to apply a style to these lines, so that Web
> Works recognizes it?

-- 
Art Campbell art.campbell at 
gmail.com
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   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

Creating a Line Separtor in Frame

[Zoe Lawson]

1. Go to your reference page. Create a Frame, name your frame, Draw your
line inside of the frame.

2. Go to your body page. Make a paragraph tag. Go to the advanced tab, and
select the Frame you made in 1 in 'add frame above paragraph' (or below
paragraph, your preference).

Where ever you want a line, just insert a paragraph with that paragraph tag.

In webworks, map this paragraph tag to a style that has  or whatever the
tag is (I forget right now) to make a line as it's macro.

I think that should work.

HTH, 

Zoe

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Subject: Creating a Line Separtor in Frame


Hi:
I'm creating a Q and I want to separate each question and answer pair 
with a horizontal line.

I've never done this before and I'm wondering the easiest way to handle it.

As an aside, do I need to apply a style to these lines, so that Web 
Works recognizes it?

Thanks,
Ron

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Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional

[pearlrosenb...@nc.rr.com]

I hadn't, but I just went in and selected Western for the Registration 
Marks, follow all the steps as before, and still it prints without the 
trim marks.

Any other suggestions? Art? Anyone?

- Original Message -
From: Art Campbell 
Date: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional
To: "pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com" 
Cc: framers at frameusers.com

> In Frame, on the Print dialog box, did you activate a setting from 
the
> Registration Marks menu?
> 
> Art
> 
> On 6/30/06, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com  
wrote:
> > Hi Framers,
> >
> > FrameMaker 7.0p578
> > Adobe Acrobat 7 Professinal
> >
> > I created a document in FM with a custom-sized page ? 6.5 x 9 
> and then
> > created a PDF. In Acrobat, I went to Tools/Print Production/Add
> > Printer Makrs and enabled Trim Marks. I printed the document on 
> 8.5 x
> > 11 paper, but there are no marks in the corners to show the 
> boundaries> of the page.
> >
> > I haven't done this before, so maybe this is not the correct 
method.
> > Can someone please tell me how to print a smaller page on a larger
> > paper with makrs in the corners to delineate the boundaries of the
> > page?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Art Campbell 
> art.campbell at gmail.com  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in 
> this world beats a '52 Vincent
>   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
> No disclaimers apply.
> DoD 358
> 

Creating a Line Separtor in Frame

[Mike Feimster]

Ron,

If you are using a different paragraph style for questions and answers (and
each question or answer is only one paragraph long), you can pick one of
them and add the line to that paragraph style.

For example, 

1. Open the paragraph designer and select the Question paragraph style.
2. Go to the advanced tab.
3. In the Frame Above Pgf list, select Single Line.
4. Click Update All.

Now, every time you use that paragraph style, you'll automatically have a
line above that paragraph.

Mike

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Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:11 PM
To: Framers List
Subject: Creating a Line Separtor in Frame

Hi:
I'm creating a Q and I want to separate each question and answer pair with
a horizontal line.

I've never done this before and I'm wondering the easiest way to handle it.

As an aside, do I need to apply a style to these lines, so that Web Works
recognizes it?

Thanks,
Ron

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Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional

[Stuart Rogers]

pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com wrote:
> I hadn't, but I just went in and selected Western for the Registration 
> Marks, follow all the steps as before, and still it prints without the 
> trim marks.
> 
> Any other suggestions? Art? Anyone?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Art Campbell 
> Date: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:45 pm
> Subject: Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional
> To: "pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com" 
> Cc: framers at frameusers.com
> 
>> In Frame, on the Print dialog box, did you activate a setting from 
> the
>> Registration Marks menu?
>>
>> Art
>>
>> On 6/30/06, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com  
> wrote:
>>> Hi Framers,
>>>
>>> FrameMaker 7.0p578
>>> Adobe Acrobat 7 Professinal
>>>
>>> I created a document in FM with a custom-sized page ? 6.5 x 9 
>> and then
>>> created a PDF. In Acrobat, I went to Tools/Print Production/Add
>>> Printer Makrs and enabled Trim Marks. I printed the document on 
>> 8.5 x
>>> 11 paper, but there are no marks in the corners to show the 
>> boundaries> of the page.
>>> I haven't done this before, so maybe this is not the correct 
> method.
>>> Can someone please tell me how to print a smaller page on a larger
>>> paper with makrs in the corners to delineate the boundaries of the
>>> page?
>>

Pearl,

When you create the PDF, are you specifying a page size larger than your 
FM page size?

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Creating a Line Separtor in Frame

[Stuart Rogers]

Ron Miller wrote:
> Hi:
> I'm creating a Q and I want to separate each question and answer pair 
> with a horizontal line.
> 
> I've never done this before and I'm wondering the easiest way to handle it.
> 
> As an aside, do I need to apply a style to these lines, so that Web 
> Works recognizes it?
> 

In your pgf tag definition, on the Advanced tab, select a Frame Above 
Pgf or Frame Below Pgf. You can use one of the default choices or create 
your own on a reference page (that's where the defaults reside). Play 
around with the height of the frame containing your horizontal rule, and 
the position of the rule within the frame, to change the space 
above/below your Q pairs.

HTH,

-- 
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional

[pearlrosenb...@nc.rr.com]

Yes, when I print from FM, I am getting the trim marks.

- Original Message -
From: Art Campbell 
Date: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional
To: "pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com" 

> Sorry -- I may have asked the wrong question. When you queue it to a
> regular printer
> from FRAME, do you get registration marks?
> 
> Art
> 
> On 6/30/06, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com  
wrote:
> > No.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Art Campbell 
> > Date: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:30 pm
> > Subject: Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional
> > To: "pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com" 
> >
> > > If you queue it to a regular printer, to the registration marks
> > > show up?
> > >
> > > Art
> > >
> > > On 6/30/06, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com 
> > wrote:
> > > > I hadn't, but I just went in and selected Western for the
> > > Registration> Marks, follow all the steps as before, and still it
> > > prints without the
> > > > trim marks.
> > > >
> > > > Any other suggestions? Art? Anyone?
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: Art Campbell 
> > > > Date: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:45 pm
> > > > Subject: Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional
> > > > To: "pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com" 
> > > > Cc: framers at frameusers.com
> > > >
> > > > > In Frame, on the Print dialog box, did you activate a setting
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > > Registration Marks menu?
> > > > >
> > > > > Art
> > > > >
> > > > > On 6/30/06, pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Framers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FrameMaker 7.0p578
> > > > > > Adobe Acrobat 7 Professinal
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I created a document in FM with a custom-sized page ? 
> 6.5 x 9
> > > > > and then
> > > > > > created a PDF. In Acrobat, I went to Tools/Print 
> Production/Add> > > > > Printer Makrs and enabled Trim Marks. I 
> printed the document on
> > > > > 8.5 x
> > > > > > 11 paper, but there are no marks in the corners to show the
> > > > > boundaries> of the page.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I haven't done this before, so maybe this is not the 
correct
> > > > method.
> > > > > > Can someone please tell me how to print a smaller page 
> on a
> > > larger> > > paper with makrs in the corners to delineate the
> > > boundaries of the
> > > > > > page?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Art Campbell
> > > > > art.campbell at gmail.com  "... In my opinion, there's 
> nothing in
> > > > > this world beats a '52 Vincent
> > > > >   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
> > > > > No disclaimers apply.
> > > > > DoD 358
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Art Campbell
> > > art.campbell at gmail.com  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in
> > > this world beats a '52 Vincent
> > >   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
> > > No disclaimers apply.
> > > DoD 358
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Art Campbell 
> art.campbell at gmail.com  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in 
> this world beats a '52 Vincent
>   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
> No disclaimers apply.
> DoD 358
> 

Cross References Dropped from PDF

[Owen, Clint]

FM 7.0p578 on Windows XP, Acrobat 6.0 Standard

We are having this strange problem on only one of three computers. Here is
the setup:

The book consists of multiple chapters with mostly text and a few
graphics. The footer of every page has the document number inserted as a
cross reference from the title page. This way we change the number once and
it appears correctly on every page in the book. The whole book is 22
chapters but only 50 pages. 

On one machine only, when you print the entire book to PDF or Save
As PDF some of the numbers do not show up in the PDF, even though they are
in the FM files. The numbers are there for the first 10 pages or so,
disappear for most of the book, then come back for the last few pages. It
happens on the same pages in the PDF every time.

If you print just one of the files to PDF it works OK. If you print
the entire book on a different machine, it works fine.

The computers involved are similar, but not identical, Dells, 3.0 GHz (bad)
and 3.2 GHz (good), and both have 512 MB RAM. We used the system monitor to
watch CPU usage during the conversion, and saw several spikes to 100% for a
few seconds during the process on the suspect machine. The working machine
never went above 95%. Could the bad machine be losing data when the CPU is
maxed out? It seems too consistent for that. 

We are completely baffled, and would appreciate any ideas you have.

Clint

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Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional

[Fred Ridder]

Ahh, now I remeber the trick! To get registration marks in
PDF you have to turn the "Include Acrobat Data" option
*OFF*.  The reasoning is that you only use registration marks
in print, where hyperlinks and Acrobat bookmarks and other
interactive features are extraneous.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


>From: pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
>To: Art Campbell 
>CC: framers at frameusers.com
>Subject: Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional
>Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:42:46 -0400
>
>Yes, when I print from FM, I am getting the trim marks.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Art Campbell 
>Date: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:41 pm
>Subject: Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional
>To: "pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com" 
>
> > Sorry -- I may have asked the wrong question. When you queue it to a
> > regular printer
> > from FRAME, do you get registration marks?
> >
> > Art

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Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

[Dov Isaacs]

Yes, the advice (I gave it) still holds.
No reason why it shouldn't!

- Dov 

> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Harvey [mailto:JHarvey at cambridgesoft.com] 
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:32 AM
> To: Dov Isaacs; Steve Rickaby; framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
> 
> Here is the procedure I pulled off this list years ago. It's been
> sitting either in, on, under, or behind my desk for what seems like
> forever. Does it still hold true with the current software out there?
> 
> "1. Save the file in Visio as a PDF.
> 2. Open the PDF in Acrobat.
> 3. Save the Acrobat file as and EPS, with TIFF preview/fonts embedded.
> 4. Import the EPS into FrameMaker.
> Note: The image may look fuzzy in FM when imported. Remember, this is
> the TIFF preview, not the printed page."
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft.com at lists.frameu
> sers.com]
> On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:21 PM
> To: Steve Rickaby; framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
> 
> FrameMaker does NOT have the ability to import "Visio native
> files." It does have the ability to use OLE (object linking 
> and embedding) links to such a Viso document file, but that
> requires that Visio be installed on the system that runs
> FrameMaker. Also, OLE is notoriously unreliable.
> 
>   - Dov
>  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com 
> > [mailto:framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com]
> >  On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:54 AM
> > To: framers at FrameUsers.com
> > Subject: Re: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
> > 
> > At 07:40 -0700 28/6/06, Roopa Belur wrote:
> > 
> > >  My apologies for not being clear. My company uses 
> > Microsoft Word. They are considering moving to Frame in the 
> > next few months.
> > > 
> > >I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without 
> > Distiller or any Adobe product.
> > 
> > Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio 
> > to PDF so that you can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are 
> > you? Because if so, I don't think you need to bother: PC 
> > FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so I've 
> > been told - I don't use Visio).
> > -- 
> > Steve
> 

Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional

[Art Campbell]

You the man, Fred!
I couldn't remember the switch either!

Art

On 6/30/06, Fred Ridder  wrote:
> Ahh, now I remeber the trick! To get registration marks in
> PDF you have to turn the "Include Acrobat Data" option
> *OFF*.  The reasoning is that you only use registration marks
> in print, where hyperlinks and Acrobat bookmarks and other
> interactive features are extraneous.
>
> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> Fred Ridder
> Intel
> Parsippany, NJ
>
>
> >From: pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com
> >To: Art Campbell 
> >CC: framers at frameusers.com
> >Subject: Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional
> >Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:42:46 -0400
> >
> >Yes, when I print from FM, I am getting the trim marks.
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Art Campbell 
> >Date: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:41 pm
> >Subject: Re: Trim marks in Acrobat 7 Professional
> >To: "pearlrosenberg at nc.rr.com" 
> >
> > > Sorry -- I may have asked the wrong question. When you queue it to a
> > > regular printer
> > > from FRAME, do you get registration marks?
> > >
> > > Art
>


-- 
Art Campbell art.campbell at 
gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358