RTF 1.6 filter hint revealed!

[Peter Ring]

Just for the record, after some hours of frustrating guess-work, the 
filter ID AKA 'filter hint' of the 'new' RTF export filter was revealed 
to me. It's actually almost documented in the maker.ini file, but I 
suspect that I'm not the only who couldn't read between the lines.

'0001ADBIRTF '

There you are. ADBI is Adobe India. The hints from maker.ini:

---
[APIClients]
;ClientName=ClientType, [facet, format_id, vendor_id, display_name, ]
; description, path, mode, optional file extension for filter
; when ClientType is filter type, facet, format_id, vendor_id and
; display_name are required.
; mode can be one of maker, structured, all.  it determines for which
; mode(s) to load this client.
; for example, RTF=TextImport, RTF, RTF, FAPI, RTF, Rich Text Format
; (RTF) Import, filters\rtfimprt.dll,all,^.rtf
Microsoft RTF1.6=ExportFilter, RTF, RTF, ADBI, Microsoft RTF1.6, RTF 
Export, filters\ExportUtility.dll, all, ^.rtf
---

The syntax of a filter hint is described in general on page 663, and the 
FS_SaveFileTypeHint is described on page 154 of the FDK Programmer's 
Reference (for FrameMaker7.0). A filter hint consists of 6 fields 
(without spaces between them):

record_vers vendor format_id platform filter_vers filter_name

The first 3 fields are each 4 bytes, space-padded if shorter than 4 
bytes; this 12-byte string is what's needed for F_ApiSave() and 
corresponding commands in e.g. FrameScript.

The only part missing from maker.ini is the 'record_vers', which is 
apparently always '0001'.

Kind regards
Peter Ring

Frame->webworks publisher

[Niels Fanøe]

Rats. What I meant, too! 

;o) 
Niels

-> -Original Message-
-> John Steiner wrote:
-> > Hi! I'm converting a Frame book (6.0) to Webworks Publisher and am 
-> > having trouble with a character style, particularly a macro in a 
-> > character style. Is this an appropriate forum to ask about 
-> that or is 
-> > there a more specific webworks site?
-> > 

-> Stuart Rogers answered:
-> http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/wwp-users
-> 
-> --

Frame->webworks publisher

[Niels Fanøe]

Hi,

I'd take it to the kind folks in the HATT group: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HATT/ 

Lots of expertise there (as well).

-Niels

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->  On Behalf Of John Steiner
-> Sent: 4. juli 2006 07:33
-> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
-> Subject: Frame->webworks publisher
-> 
-> Hi! I'm converting a Frame book (6.0) to Webworks Publisher 
-> and am having trouble with a character style, particularly a 
-> macro in a character style. Is this an appropriate forum to 
-> ask about that or is there a more specific webworks site?
-> 
-> js
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How are text insets updated?

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

I copied a FrameMaker file with some text insets into
another folder and overwrote the existing file. Only
the content of the text insets had changed. I did not
copy the text insets files. Therefore the text insets
were unresolved (which I expected). However the FrameMaker
file displayed the text inset files of the file which I
had overwritten. Shouldn't FrameMaker store the content
of text insets and just not update them if they become
unresolved?

Best regards

Winfried

Frame + XML

[Marcus Streets]

Steve Rickaby wrote:
> At 15:11 +0100 4/7/06, Marcus Streets wrote:
> 
>> How do I tell Frame that an element is an inline and should not be put
>> into a new paragraph but only have character level formatting?
> 
> Give it a text format rule of 'Text range'. For example:
> 
>> Element (Container): Emphasis
>> General rule:
>> Exclusions:  Graphic
>> Text format rules
>> In all contexts.
>> Text range.
>> Use character format: Emphasis
> 
> Here the element and the character format have the same name. I find this 
> less confusing, but I'm like that.
> 
> FrameMaker 7.0 is fine unless you either hit one of the bugs that were fixed 
> in 7.1 (no idea what they were) or need the XML smarts introduced in 7.2.

OK I am not going mad - just going mad.
I was wondering why this was not working - I had a capitalisation
problem - the element was being imported as function not Function.

Marcus

Frame + XML

[Marcus Streets]

I am using Frame 7.0 - I know I need to upgrade.

I ma having problems with my EDD.

How do I tell Frame that an element is an inline and should not be put
into a new paragraph but only have character level formatting?

Marcus

RTF 1.6 filter hint revealed!

[Peter Ring]

Just for the record, after some hours of frustrating guess-work, the 
filter ID AKA 'filter hint' of the 'new' RTF export filter was revealed 
to me. It's actually almost documented in the maker.ini file, but I 
suspect that I'm not the only who couldn't read between the lines.


'0001ADBIRTF '

There you are. ADBI is Adobe India. The hints from maker.ini:

---
[APIClients]
;ClientName=ClientType, [facet, format_id, vendor_id, display_name, ]
; description, path, mode, optional file extension for filter
; when ClientType is filter type, facet, format_id, vendor_id and
; display_name are required.
; mode can be one of maker, structured, all.  it determines for which
; mode(s) to load this client.
; for example, RTF=TextImport, RTF, RTF, FAPI, RTF, Rich Text Format
; (RTF) Import, filters\rtfimprt.dll,all,^.rtf
Microsoft RTF1.6=ExportFilter, RTF, RTF, ADBI, Microsoft RTF1.6, RTF 
Export, filters\ExportUtility.dll, all, ^.rtf

---

The syntax of a filter hint is described in general on page 663, and the 
FS_SaveFileTypeHint is described on page 154 of the FDK Programmer's 
Reference (for FrameMaker7.0). A filter hint consists of 6 fields 
(without spaces between them):


record_vers vendor format_id platform filter_vers filter_name

The first 3 fields are each 4 bytes, space-padded if shorter than 4 
bytes; this 12-byte string is what's needed for F_ApiSave() and 
corresponding commands in e.g. FrameScript.


The only part missing from maker.ini is the 'record_vers', which is 
apparently always '0001'.


Kind regards
Peter Ring
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I want a numbered list with alphabetized substeps

[hedley.fin...@myob.com]

Karyn:

> Numbered list N: and N:
> Alpha list A: and A:
> 
> Or you can use 1 series label for this.
> 
> Numbered and alpha list:
> 
> to show numbers N:.< > and N: .< >
> to show alpha N:< >. and N:< >.

You don't need a special paragraph format for initialisers (  ,  
).  Suppose three paragraph formats, ProcedureHeading, Step, and SubStep.

Then set up these numbering builders in the Numbering tab of the Paragraph 
Designer dialogue:

ProcedureHeading  < =0>< =0>
Step  < =0>
SubStep   < >

The ProcedureHeading then automatically resets Step and SubStep numbering 
to zero.  The Step then resets SubSet numbering to zero. The first Step 
_after_ a ProcedureHeading will be numbered 1, and subsequent steps will 
increment.  The first SubStep after a ProcedureHeading or a Step will be 
numbered 'a', and subsequent steps will increment.

The article at <
http://www.microtype.com/resources/articles/AUTONUM_DE.PDF> expands on the 
above notion to encompass chapter, section, figure, and table numbering, 
completely eliminating initialisers and allowing all numbering to be in a 
single number flow.

Regards,
Hedley


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MYOB Australia 
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Frame->webworks publisher

[Stuart Rogers]

John Steiner wrote:
> Hi! I'm converting a Frame book (6.0) to Webworks Publisher and am 
> having trouble with a character style, particularly a macro in a 
> character style. Is this an appropriate forum to ask about that or is 
> there a more specific webworks site?
> 
http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/wwp-users

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in 
moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification 
for selfishness."

John Kenneth Galbraith, 1908-2006
"The smartest export Canada ever sent to the United States."


Get Firefox!
http://tinyurl.com/8q9c5

(OT) - inquiery for pdf editing in MSWord

[Wim Hooghwinkel (Scriptware)]

Hello all,

In your opinion, what is curtrently the best tool to open (convert)pdf
documents in MSWord and edit the contents? 

Please send your recommendations off list, 

thanks.

(I am not searching for batch conversion, but for 'one time' open and
edit documents that are only available in PDF without having the
original file. Round tripping is also not required, we'll save the
results in MSWord and print to PDF again.)


kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel wimh at scriptware.nl
DTP and XML Management

Scriptware bv http://www.scriptware.nl
tel : +31 (0)23 548 48 84
fax : +31 (0)23 548 48 85
http://www.scriptware.nl
info at scriptware.nl info at scriptware.nl 

RE: Frame->webworks publisher

[Niels Fanøe]

Rats. What I meant, too! 

;o) 
Niels

-> -Original Message-
-> John Steiner wrote:
-> > Hi! I'm converting a Frame book (6.0) to Webworks Publisher and am 
-> > having trouble with a character style, particularly a macro in a 
-> > character style. Is this an appropriate forum to ask about 
-> that or is 
-> > there a more specific webworks site?
-> > 

-> Stuart Rogers answered:
-> http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/wwp-users
-> 
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Re: Frame->webworks publisher

[Stuart Rogers]

John Steiner wrote:
Hi! I'm converting a Frame book (6.0) to Webworks Publisher and am 
having trouble with a character style, particularly a macro in a 
character style. Is this an appropriate forum to ask about that or is 
there a more specific webworks site?



http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/wwp-users

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in 
moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification 
for selfishness."


John Kenneth Galbraith, 1908-2006
"The smartest export Canada ever sent to the United States."


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RE: Frame->webworks publisher

[Niels Fanøe]

Hi,

I'd take it to the kind folks in the HATT group: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HATT/ 

Lots of expertise there (as well).

-Niels

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-> Subject: Frame->webworks publisher
-> 
-> Hi! I'm converting a Frame book (6.0) to Webworks Publisher 
-> and am having trouble with a character style, particularly a 
-> macro in a character style. Is this an appropriate forum to 
-> ask about that or is there a more specific webworks site?
-> 
-> js
-> ___
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Re: Frame + XML

[Marcus Streets]

Steve Rickaby wrote:
> At 15:11 +0100 4/7/06, Marcus Streets wrote:
> 
>> How do I tell Frame that an element is an inline and should not be put
>> into a new paragraph but only have character level formatting?
> 
> Give it a text format rule of 'Text range'. For example:
> 
>> Element (Container): Emphasis
>> General rule:
>> Exclusions:  Graphic
>> Text format rules
>> In all contexts.
>> Text range.
>> Use character format: Emphasis
> 
> Here the element and the character format have the same name. I find this 
> less confusing, but I'm like that.
> 
> FrameMaker 7.0 is fine unless you either hit one of the bugs that were fixed 
> in 7.1 (no idea what they were) or need the XML smarts introduced in 7.2.

OK I am not going mad - just going mad.
I was wondering why this was not working - I had a capitalisation
problem - the element was being imported as function not Function.

Marcus
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Frame->webworks publisher

[John Steiner]

Hi! I'm converting a Frame book (6.0) to Webworks Publisher and am 
having trouble with a character style, particularly a macro in a 
character style. Is this an appropriate forum to ask about that or is 
there a more specific webworks site?


js
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Frame + XML

[Marcus Streets]

I am using Frame 7.0 - I know I need to upgrade.

I ma having problems with my EDD.

How do I tell Frame that an element is an inline and should not be put
into a new paragraph but only have character level formatting?

Marcus
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How are text insets updated?

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi,

I copied a FrameMaker file with some text insets into
another folder and overwrote the existing file. Only
the content of the text insets had changed. I did not
copy the text insets files. Therefore the text insets
were unresolved (which I expected). However the FrameMaker
file displayed the text inset files of the file which I
had overwritten. Shouldn't FrameMaker store the content
of text insets and just not update them if they become
unresolved?

Best regards

Winfried
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(OT) - inquiery for pdf editing in MSWord

[Wim Hooghwinkel \(Scriptware\)]

Hello all,

In your opinion, what is curtrently the best tool to open (convert)pdf
documents in MSWord and edit the contents? 

Please send your recommendations off list, 

thanks.

(I am not searching for batch conversion, but for 'one time' open and
edit documents that are only available in PDF without having the
original file. Round tripping is also not required, we'll save the
results in MSWord and print to PDF again.)


kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DTP and XML Management

Scriptware bv http://www.scriptware.nl
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I want a numbered list with alphabetized substeps

[karyn hunt]

Hi All,

   I have a procedure with some substeps. I want to keep my regular numbered 
list ( and ) if at all possible, and then add alphabetized substeps 
underneath ( and ).

   But every time I try this, the numbered list picks up on the alphabetized 
list and it throws the numbers off. For example: If my last alphabetized 
step was b (a=2), then the next number shows as 3 (even if it's supposed to 
be 6, or 7 or whatever) because one step after =2 is 3.

   Is there any way to make the two operate independently of one another 
while still allowing the layout to utilize the entire width of the page?

   I think this has to do with setting up additional columns on the master 
page, but I've never done that before and don't know the implications for my 
layout (a very simple one).

Karyn