Re: Doc Architecture Challenge: Linking Between Books

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Angela,

just use descriptive titles for your hyperlinks, for example:

See Concepts Guide  Configuring xyz.

Indeed, if a user downloads a pdf of one book, and not the other, the links
will not work, but I guess the user will be smart enough to download the
other guide and then use the navigational aids (TOC, IX, bookmarks, ...) of
the other guide.

Good luck

Yves
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RE: Table title alignment oddity

[Reng, Winfried Dr.]

Hi,

The table title frame spans only the text column (without
sidehead area) if the table columns have only the width of
the text column. If the table columns are wider than the
text column, the table title frame spans the text column
plus the sidehead area.

Eventually your table columns are too wide.

Best regards

Winfried

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]On Behalf
 Of Linda G. Gallagher
 Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 12:33 AM
 To: 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity
 
 
 Well, maybe I've found a bug. I assure you the para tag the tables are
 anchored to is set to In Column, but the frame for the table 
 title goes to
 the left side of the side head area when I insert a new table.
 
 Some existing tables of this same style, anchored to the same 
 para tag, have
 the title frame aligned with the text, that is, not in the 
 side head area.
 Other existing tables similarly anchored have the title frame 
 all the way to
 the side head area.
 
 So, when I set the table title style to indent, it works fine 
 in tables I
 insert and in some existing tables, but other existing tables end up
 indenting the table title too much, because the title frame 
 is only in the
 main text area.
 
 Reapplying the table style or para styles or anything else 
 does not help get
 all these tables of the same style to look the same.
 
 To add to the fun, two different table styles, one set to 0 
 Left and the
 other set to .25 Left, align identically. The title goes all 
 the way through
 the side head area, but the table starts in the main text 
 area (not in the
 side head). Both are anchored to the same para tag type. Are 
 we having fun
 yet???
 
 It's making me a little nuts. =:o
 
 
 ~
 Linda G. Gallagher
 TechCom Plus, LLC
 lindag at techcomplus dot com
 www.techcomplus.com
 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
 WebWorks ePublisher templates
  
 Manager, STC Consulting and Independent
 Contracting SIG
 http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:18 PM
 To: Linda G. Gallagher; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity
 
 Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
  
  The tables are all anchored to paragraphs that are in the 
  main text area, not in the side head area.
 
 Are you sure? Really? Double-check this in Paragraph Designer's
 Pagination tab. Are the anchor pgfs all set to In Column? It's not
 enough that they _be_ in the column (via an indent setting, for
 instance) -- are they _defined_ as In Column?
  
  I hope this is making sense. The crux of the problem is 
  inconsistent behavior of where tables and table titles align 
  in relation to side head area. What controls this?
 
 The anchor pgf is supposed to control this. I've just 
 confirmed this in
 my current doc. We anchor tables in TableAnchor pgfs, which are set on
 the Pagination tab to Across All Columns and Side Heads. 
 
 A left-aligned table anchored in a TableAnchor pgf starts at the text
 frame edge (in the sidehead area) plus its Left Indent. The 
 Title frame
 above it starts at the text frame edge (in the sidehead 
 area), too, and
 the TableTitle pgf in it is indented by its Left Indent amount. 
 
 If I change the table's anchor pgf from TableAnchor to 
 FigAnchor (which
 is set to In Column), both the table and its Title frame jump 
 rightward
 into the text column. 
 
 If you have two tables anchored in identical In Column anchor 
 pgfs, and
 one aligns left across the sidehead area and the other 
 doesn't, I think
 you've found a real bug. 
 
 Later, Linda also wrote:
 
  The table title is set to In Column. Forgot to mention that. 
 
 That setting actually is irrelevant. The title pgf is in its own text
 frame (if you work with View  Borders on -- and you should, IMHO --
 you'll see it). That frame has a single column with no sidehead. You
 can't change it, either. 
 
 You can control the placement of the title pgf within the Title frame
 using its indent settings. 
 
 HTH!
 Richard
 
 
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Re: Looking for a documentation portal example

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Hi John,

I totally agree with your thoughts regrading presentation and I did not
want to disregard PDF.

But especially with a library full of documents, and a user base who
doesn't know in which document to look for a solution, I think it is
easier to built an HTML-based server-side search than forcing the user
to download all PDFs together with the Acrobat Catalog data for
acceptable full-text search.

When documents are distributed via CD/DVD this is not a issue.

Regarding CSS formatting: This might give you acceptable print quality
with additional logos a the top of each page, but e.g. no page numbers,
etc.  So my advice is to always offer PDF as an option, not only because
it is so simple to generate it using FrameMaker.

Thanks for the links so far, the Advanced Search of the IRS site are a
dream come true in terms of power.

- Michael

Am 18.04.2007 22:57, John Posada schrieb/wrote:
 
 But, wouldn't it be desirable to have all that information in HTML
 format: better navigation options, more efficient search, search
 
 no.


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RE: Another missing fonts question

[Steve Rickaby]

At 13:44 -0600 18/4/07, Combs, Richard wrote:

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 I inherited some documentation, and I get an error message
 The Frutiger-Black Font is not available.  Does anyone
 know where I can download that font for free or does anyone
 know anything about that font.  I am using FM 7.2 unstructured.

The original Frutiger fonts are from Linotype. You can buy the one you
need, or a family of different weights and styles, from Linotype, Adobe,
or font resellers like MyFonts.com. Single fonts start at $24 at the
latter.

There may be free versions, but I'd advise buying from a reputable
source, especially for business use. Freebies are frequently
poor-quality ripoffs that come with ethical, aesthetic, and sometimes
technical problems.

A Google search for Frutiger will point you toward lots of information
about the font and its designer. Fonts have to be designed, remember,
and the people who do that deserve to be paid.

Be very careful with Frutiger - there are a lot of incompatible versions 
around. Monotype Frutiger, for example, uses different internal names to 
Linotype Frutiger.

My search suggests that 'Frutiger 75 Black' is exclusively a Linotype variant:

http://www.linotype.com/12826/frutiger75black-font.html

It is also available from Monotype:

http://www.fonts.com/findfonts/detail.htm?pid=201534gclid=CJOmtfGrzosCFTwHQgodnSIVHA

I could find no specific 'Frutiger Black'.

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Re: Doc Architecture Challenge: Linking Between Books

[Steve Rickaby]

At 09:16 +0200 19/4/07, Yves Barbion wrote:

Indeed, if a user downloads a pdf of one book, and not the other, the links
will not work, but I guess the user will be smart enough to download the
other guide and then use the navigational aids (TOC, IX, bookmarks, ...) of
the other guide.

Are you sure? As long as the rule that *all* involved files are open when the 
Ps is created for the PDFs, links do seem to work. The rules seem to be that:

. *All* source files involved in linking must be open when *any* Postscript is 
created

. PDFs must be loaded into the same [relative] directories as the source files

. No PDFs must be renamed

I have in the past created a global directory to a set of user guides, using an 
ur-book. All the PDFs were placed on CD-ROM and the hyperlinks from the global 
directory keyed into the separate files ok.

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Do we an import tool to import .mif files into AuthorIT

[vikram chugh]

Hi,
We have been asked to used AuthorIT to generate onlinr
help. Our source files are in FrameMaker, but when we
want to import these files into AuthirIT we getting a
lot of junk text. I wanted to konow if there is any
import tool where we can import .mif files into
AuthorIT. Any kind of help would be appriciated.
Thanks,
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better diff tool?

[Fred Wersan]

I've been thinking about using Framescript to do something to all edited 
text to make it stand out, for example, underline it or apply a 
condition. That would separate out the real changes from the other 
things that change bars pick up, but which don't really matter for 
reviewing updated doc.


After the review cycle is over, I would get rid of the underlines or 
whatever.


Haven't done it yet, though, so I can't say how well it would work. I'm 
not sure what I would do about deletions.


An alternative which might work for your engineers would be to save the 
files as text (or export to HTML or XML) before and after and let them 
use the diff tools they are comfortable with. Formatting probably 
wouldn't matter much, you'd just care about what was changed. Ugly, but 
maybe doable.


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Re: Doc Architecture Challenge: Linking Between Books

[Angela Akridge]

That's a good point, but I'm not delivering via CD-ROM. The user downloads
the PDF from the company's website.
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Re: switched printers -- now HelvObl prints with extra slant

[Paul Findon]

On 19 Apr 2007, at 07:00, fL MORITSUGU [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


I'm using FM 6.5, Mac, in Classic. I was printing to a Laserwriter  
Select

360, through an AsanteTalk bridge, and everything looked as it should.

I've just switched to a Lexmark E120n laser printer. Now it prints  
Helvetica
bold oblique and Helvetica oblique with an additional slant. (I  
have not

checked if this is also happening with other fonts.)

I've reinstalled the fonts, then installed a different version (from a
colleague) of the fonts into the System 9 Fonts folder, and  
restarted FM,

with no change.

This also happened, before I switched the printers (machines), when  
I made
pdfs from the FM files, either using a.) Save as, then Distiller,  
or b.)

Print to file, then Distiller.

It's probably something obvious, but I don't get it. Any ideas?


What font format are you using?

Does the issue also occur with other Mac OS 9 apps?

Does the issue occur with other fonts?

I always delete the TrueType Times, Helvetica, Symbol, etc., included  
with Mac OS 9 and replace with PostScript Type 1 versions.


BTW, there's a bunch of Mac FrameMaker users on the FrameMaker for  
Mac OS X discussion group at:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/fmforosx/

Paul
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Re: Another missing fonts question

[Art Campbell]

If you inherited legacy corporate documentation, I'd bet that EMC owns
the fonts already, but they just weren't installed on your system,
probably because the people who set up systems don't think of fonts
as part of a writer's workstation. I'd start checking with IT and
other departments to find out where they are

Also, remember that the internal font names are what you're trying to
match. As others have pointed out, Linotype or a reseller is your only
option to exactly match the originals...

Art

On 4/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I inherited some documentation, and I get an error message The
Frutiger-Black Font is not available.  Does anyone know where I can
download that font for free or does anyone know anything about that
font.  I am using FM 7.2 unstructured.

Thanks,
Janice


Janice Cadel
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EMC, Inc.
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Rockville, MD  20852
240.747.6407
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Re: Doc Architecture Challenge: Linking Between Books

[Steve Rickaby]

At 05:51 -0700 19/4/07, Angela Akridge wrote:

That's a good point, but I'm not delivering via CD-ROM. The user downloads
the PDF from the company's website.

If you're responding to my point, then it should make no difference as long as 
the recipient stored the cross-linked PDFs in the same folder and does not 
rename individual files.

-- 
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Re: better diff tool?

[Art Campbell]

Have you used Files  Utilites  Compare docs?
The changes seem pretty vivid in the composite document.

Art

On 4/19/07, Fred Wersan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've been thinking about using Framescript to do something to all edited
text to make it stand out, for example, underline it or apply a
condition. That would separate out the real changes from the other
things that change bars pick up, but which don't really matter for
reviewing updated doc.


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Re: Doc Architecture Challenge: Linking Between Books

[Art Campbell]

So why not deliver both books both individually and either in a .PDF
package (new in Acrobat 8) or in a zip file marked as the product's
Documentation Set?

Art



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That's a good point, but I'm not delivering via CD-ROM. The user downloads
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Re: Looking for a documentation portal example

[Bill Swallow]

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/default.aspx

On 4/18/07, Michael Müller-Hillebrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Have you seen such a (public) documentation portal? I am looking around
myself, but would be thankful for every link you can give me.


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Re: Looking for a documentation portal example

[Bill Swallow]

I favor having both if possible, if for no other
reason that Google can find and correctly index masses
of HTML pages (its PDF indexing is good but doesn't
seem to understand the different search priorities of
entities in the document, making it like an ASCII file
in terms of rankings).


Chris, this simply isn't true. Google will index the full text but
will pull from the document properties first to catagorize the
indexing for the document. If you use your doc tage correctly, you
will see better results - same goes for HTML and meta information.

http://www.acrobatusers.com/articles/2006/02/pdf_for_google/pdf_for_google.php

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RE: Adjusting dialog box sizes in Framemaker?

[Laura Larson]

I've had good results with Klaus Daube's plugin.

http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker36.html#2 

The only thing I wish it would do a little better is display the full
filename of source graphics in cases where Frame is looking for missing
files. We have graphics spread all over different servers (ugly I know)
and knowing more than just a subfolder or two would be really helpful. 

Otherwise, I've been very happy using it. 

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Subject: Re: Adjusting dialog box sizes in Framemaker?

Van Boening, Tammy wrote:
 Argh, I know that this topic has been covered before, but the archives

 keep timing out on my right now and my google search has resulted in 
 zilch. Isn't there a plugin available from someone/somewhere that 
 allows you to adjust the sizes of dialog boxes in Framemaker? Like, 
 right now, when my books are generating/updating, I cannot for the 
 life of me see the whole path/file name and I need to. Also, in the 
 PDF Setup dialog box, I have to scroll to see all my bookmarks, and I 
 want to be able to see them all in one view so that I can make sure 
 that I have  my indentation levels set up correctly before generating
the .pdf.

You can use ResHacker (cautiously! backup your files before messing with
'em) http://www.angusj.com/resourcehacker/

Use it on the fmdlg.dll file in your fminit folder.

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Re: switched printers -- now HelvObl prints with extra slant

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Art:

FYI - on Mac FrameMaker, the maker.ini settings aren't in an exposed 
file, as they are on Windows and UNIX. They're inside the single 
application file. To change these settings requires using a dangerous 
resource editor, similar to registry editing on Windows.


Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices


Art Campbell wrote:

I'd set the Printer metrics line in maker.ini to ON, to get accurate
screen display. And I'd also set the Adobe distiller printer instance
as the default.

Art


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Re: better diff tool?

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I've started to use conditional text for different drafts. Each draft is 
a different color, all are underlined. I have a separate template which 
only has those conditional text defined, so I can apply that template 
without interfering with other conditional text. The PDF will the colors 
(or if you have a color printer). All of them can be spotted on a black 
and white printers by the underline.


Regards,
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Fred Wersan wrote:
I've been thinking about using Framescript to do something to all 
edited text to make it stand out, for example, underline it or apply a 
condition. That would separate out the real changes from the other 
things that change bars pick up, but which don't really matter for 
reviewing updated doc.


After the review cycle is over, I would get rid of the underlines or 
whatever.


Haven't done it yet, though, so I can't say how well it would work. 
I'm not sure what I would do about deletions.


An alternative which might work for your engineers would be to save 
the files as text (or export to HTML or XML) before and after and let 
them use the diff tools they are comfortable with. Formatting probably 
wouldn't matter much, you'd just care about what was changed. Ugly, 
but maybe doable.


Fred

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QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Framers,

I'm looking for a conversion tool to convert QuarkXPress files to
FrameMaker. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

[Art Campbell]

Windows 7.2 is supposed to support direct import of Quark; not sure
about earlier versions.
Is it not doing something you need?

Art

On 4/19/07, Yves Barbion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Framers,

I'm looking for a conversion tool to convert QuarkXPress files to
FrameMaker. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

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Documentation Architect
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor


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Re: switched printers -- now HelvObl prints with extra slant

[L MORITSUGU]

Thanks very much for your suggestions. I fixed it, a day and a half later, 
after installing the fonts through Font Book, not directly into the System 9 
Fonts folder (which I thought I'd read somewhere was the same thing, but 
maybe not).


Thanks.

Louise Moritsugu



From: Paul Findon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: switched printers -- now HelvObl prints with extra slant
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:09:09 +0100

On 19 Apr 2007, at 07:00, fL MORITSUGU [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


I'm using FM 6.5, Mac, in Classic. I was printing to a Laserwriter  Select
360, through an AsanteTalk bridge, and everything looked as it should.

I've just switched to a Lexmark E120n laser printer. Now it prints  
Helvetica

bold oblique and Helvetica oblique with an additional slant. (I  have not
checked if this is also happening with other fonts.)

I've reinstalled the fonts, then installed a different version (from a
colleague) of the fonts into the System 9 Fonts folder, and  restarted FM,
with no change.

This also happened, before I switched the printers (machines), when  I 
made

pdfs from the FM files, either using a.) Save as, then Distiller,  or b.)
Print to file, then Distiller.

It's probably something obvious, but I don't get it. Any ideas?


What font format are you using?

Does the issue also occur with other Mac OS 9 apps?

Does the issue occur with other fonts?

I always delete the TrueType Times, Helvetica, Symbol, etc., included  with 
Mac OS 9 and replace with PostScript Type 1 versions.


BTW, there's a bunch of Mac FrameMaker users on the FrameMaker for  Mac OS 
X discussion group at:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/fmforosx/

Paul
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Re: switched printers -- now HelvObl prints with extra slant

[Mike Wickham]

I once saw a similar instance with a font-- where FrameMaker added an extra 
slant to italics. This particular font was one  that I created in 
Fontographer because I the font family had no italic version available for 
purchase. Fontographer (or, more likely, my knowledge of it!) must create 
fonts in a weird way because FrameMaker saw this font as a regular font. 
Assigning it the italic attribute in FrameMaker put an extra slant on it. 
The solution was to treat it as a regular font, so that it would print as a 
normal italic.


Mike Wickham

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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:07 AM
Subject: switched printers -- now HelvObl prints with extra slant




Hi,

I'm using FM 6.5, Mac, in Classic. I was printing to a Laserwriter Select 
360, through an AsanteTalk bridge, and everything looked as it should.


I've just switched to a Lexmark E120n laser printer. Now it prints 
Helvetica bold oblique and Helvetica oblique with an additional slant. (I 
have not checked if this is also happening with other fonts.)


I've reinstalled the fonts, then installed a different version (from a 
colleague) of the fonts into the System 9 Fonts folder, and restarted FM, 
with no change.


This also happened, before I switched the printers (machines), when I made 
pdfs from the FM files, either using a.) Save as, then Distiller, or b.) 
Print to file, then Distiller.


It's probably something obvious, but I don't get it. Any ideas?

Thanks,

Louise Moritsugu


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Re: QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

[Yves Barbion]

Frame 7.2 can import QuarkXPress files, but only up to Quark version 4.1

On 4/19/07, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Windows 7.2 is supposed to support direct import of Quark; not sure
about earlier versions.
Is it not doing something you need?

Art

On 4/19/07, Yves Barbion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Framers,

 I'm looking for a conversion tool to convert QuarkXPress files to
 FrameMaker. Any suggestions?

 Thanks in advance.

 --
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 Documentation Architect
 Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor

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SV: QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

[Jacob Schäffer]

I don't know of many non-Quark applications that generally can load newer 
QXD-files than those saved in QuarkXpress 4.1 format.

However, QuarkXpress versions newer than 4.1 can save backwards (usually 
without significant losses). Hence, if you really think conversion to FM format 
offer sufficient value to you, then you have to face a manual process.

All the best
Jacob Schäffer
Not an Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor. 



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Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Yves Barbion
Sendt: 19. april 2007 20:40
Til: Art Campbell
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Emne: Re: QuarkXPress to FrameMaker


Frame 7.2 can import QuarkXPress files, but only up to Quark version 4.1

On 4/19/07, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Windows 7.2 is supposed to support direct import of Quark; not sure 
 about earlier versions. Is it not doing something you need?

 Art

 On 4/19/07, Yves Barbion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Framers,
 
  I'm looking for a conversion tool to convert QuarkXPress files to 
  FrameMaker. Any suggestions?
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  --
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  Documentation Architect
  Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor

 --
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Re: QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

[Art Campbell]

If you don't want to save Quark to an earlier version, or can't,
another option may be to print it out to PDF and save the PDF as RTF.
Then import that.

Art

On 4/19/07, Jacob Schäffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't know of many non-Quark applications that generally can load newer 
QXD-files than those saved in QuarkXpress 4.1 format.

However, QuarkXpress versions newer than 4.1 can save backwards (usually 
without significant losses). Hence, if you really think conversion to FM format 
offer sufficient value to you, then you have to face a manual process.

All the best
Jacob Schäffer
Not an Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor.



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Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Emne: Re: QuarkXPress to FrameMaker


Frame 7.2 can import QuarkXPress files, but only up to Quark version 4.1

On 4/19/07, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Windows 7.2 is supposed to support direct import of Quark; not sure
 about earlier versions. Is it not doing something you need?

 Art

 On 4/19/07, Yves Barbion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Framers,
 
  I'm looking for a conversion tool to convert QuarkXPress files to
  FrameMaker. Any suggestions?
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  --
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  Documentation Architect
  Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor

 --
 Art Campbell
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  DoD 358




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Documentation Architect
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor 

Scripto bvba
Asselsstraat 65
9031 Gent
Belgium
T: +32 494 12 01 89
F: +32 9 366 50 32
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RE: Table title alignment oddity - solved

[Linda G. Gallagher]

Well, I didn't think was it at first, but it turns out it was! 

In the template file, the tables overran the main text area ever so
slightly. When I made the columns a little narrower, sure enough, the table
title box popped back inside the main text area.

Thank you, Winfried!!


~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
WebWorks ePublisher templates
 
Manager, STC Consulting and Independent
Contracting SIG
http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html
 


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Reng, Winfried Dr.
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 1:27 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity

Hi,

The table title frame spans only the text column (without
sidehead area) if the table columns have only the width of
the text column. If the table columns are wider than the
text column, the table title frame spans the text column
plus the sidehead area.

Eventually your table columns are too wide.

Best regards

Winfried

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ]On Behalf
 Of Linda G. Gallagher
 Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 12:33 AM
 To: 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity
 
 
 Well, maybe I've found a bug. I assure you the para tag the tables are
 anchored to is set to In Column, but the frame for the table 
 title goes to
 the left side of the side head area when I insert a new table.
 
 Some existing tables of this same style, anchored to the same 
 para tag, have
 the title frame aligned with the text, that is, not in the 
 side head area.
 Other existing tables similarly anchored have the title frame 
 all the way to
 the side head area.
 
 So, when I set the table title style to indent, it works fine 
 in tables I
 insert and in some existing tables, but other existing tables end up
 indenting the table title too much, because the title frame 
 is only in the
 main text area.
 
 Reapplying the table style or para styles or anything else 
 does not help get
 all these tables of the same style to look the same.
 
 To add to the fun, two different table styles, one set to 0 
 Left and the
 other set to .25 Left, align identically. The title goes all 
 the way through
 the side head area, but the table starts in the main text 
 area (not in the
 side head). Both are anchored to the same para tag type. Are 
 we having fun
 yet???
 
 It's making me a little nuts. =:o
 
 
 ~
 Linda G. Gallagher
 TechCom Plus, LLC
 lindag at techcomplus dot com
 www.techcomplus.com
 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
 WebWorks ePublisher templates
  
 Manager, STC Consulting and Independent
 Contracting SIG
 http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:18 PM
 To: Linda G. Gallagher; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity
 
 Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
  
  The tables are all anchored to paragraphs that are in the 
  main text area, not in the side head area.
 
 Are you sure? Really? Double-check this in Paragraph Designer's
 Pagination tab. Are the anchor pgfs all set to In Column? It's not
 enough that they _be_ in the column (via an indent setting, for
 instance) -- are they _defined_ as In Column?
  
  I hope this is making sense. The crux of the problem is 
  inconsistent behavior of where tables and table titles align 
  in relation to side head area. What controls this?
 
 The anchor pgf is supposed to control this. I've just 
 confirmed this in
 my current doc. We anchor tables in TableAnchor pgfs, which are set on
 the Pagination tab to Across All Columns and Side Heads. 
 
 A left-aligned table anchored in a TableAnchor pgf starts at the text
 frame edge (in the sidehead area) plus its Left Indent. The 
 Title frame
 above it starts at the text frame edge (in the sidehead 
 area), too, and
 the TableTitle pgf in it is indented by its Left Indent amount. 
 
 If I change the table's anchor pgf from TableAnchor to 
 FigAnchor (which
 is set to In Column), both the table and its Title frame jump 
 rightward
 into the text column. 
 
 If you have two tables anchored in identical In Column anchor 
 pgfs, and
 one aligns left across the sidehead area and the other 
 doesn't, I think
 you've found a real bug. 
 
 Later, Linda also wrote:
 
  The table title is set to In Column. Forgot to mention that. 
 
 That setting actually is irrelevant. The title pgf is in its own text
 frame (if you work with View  Borders on -- and you should, IMHO --
 you'll see it). That frame has a 

RE: QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

[Dov Isaacs]

The filter for QuarkXPress import into FrameMaker was
hacked from the equivalent InDesign filter and only
supports QuarkXPress 3.x and 4.x files. Newer files
(5, 6, and 7) cannot be opened in FrameMaker due to the
fact that Quark encrypts their version 5, 6, and 7 
documents and any software that attempts to break that
encryption without permission is breaking the DMCA
(the Digital Millenium Copyright Act).

- Dov

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Art Campbell
 Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 8:53 AM
 To: Yves Barbion
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: QuarkXPress to FrameMaker
 
 Windows 7.2 is supposed to support direct import of Quark; not sure
 about earlier versions.
 Is it not doing something you need?
 
 Art
 
 On 4/19/07, Yves Barbion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Framers,
 
  I'm looking for a conversion tool to convert QuarkXPress files to
  FrameMaker. Any suggestions?
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  --
  Yves Barbion
  Documentation Architect
  Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
 
 -- 
 Art Campbell 
 
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Re: QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

[Alan Litchfield]

So, is there a filter for Quark tagged text (.xtg)?

Cheers
Alan

((Damn, I keep forgetting that on this list I have to click on Reply  
All, not just Reply.))


On 20/04/2007, at 8:22 AM, Dov Isaacs wrote:


The filter for QuarkXPress import into FrameMaker was
hacked from the equivalent InDesign filter and only
supports QuarkXPress 3.x and 4.x files. Newer files
(5, 6, and 7) cannot be opened in FrameMaker due to the
fact that Quark encrypts their version 5, 6, and 7
documents and any software that attempts to break that
encryption without permission is breaking the DMCA
(the Digital Millenium Copyright Act).

- Dov


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Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

Windows 7.2 is supposed to support direct import of Quark; not sure
about earlier versions.
Is it not doing something you need?

Art

On 4/19/07, Yves Barbion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Framers,

I'm looking for a conversion tool to convert QuarkXPress files to
FrameMaker. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

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Documentation Architect
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Re: QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

[Peter Gold]

markzware.com makes some Quark conversion filters for 7.x and 6.x, 
though nothing explicitly to FrameMaker. You might query them.


Also, dtptools.com has a MIF-QXP filter; 
http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=mfqx You might query them about 
anything that converts in the other direction they may be planning.



HTH

Regards,

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The filter for QuarkXPress import into FrameMaker was
hacked from the equivalent InDesign filter and only
supports QuarkXPress 3.x and 4.x files. Newer files
(5, 6, and 7) cannot be opened in FrameMaker due to the
fact that Quark encrypts their version 5, 6, and 7
documents and any software that attempts to break that
encryption without permission is breaking the DMCA
(the Digital Millenium Copyright Act).


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FrameMaker Server User Interface??

[Randall C. Reed]

A few years ago, we installed a server-based version of Frame: No
documentation, little product knowledge on the part of the Adobe
customer service folks. Now, new company, same need. This time, our IT
department tells us that we need  software programming to build the
interface for the control/security/access features. to the tune of
$25,000 worth of software programming consultant time. This floored me
since the last time it was a single CD that a one-person IT department
installed in a few hours.
Has the Server version changed?
And the Adobe site says that Server needs a companion and must be
integrated into a solution before it is ready for use. You can either
purchase third-part solutions (From Datazone or Finite Matters Limited)
or you can build your own solution using Frame Developers Kit.
I don't recall us using FDK or third-party solution before. What
experiences do other Listers have for FM Server?
TIA,

Randy


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RE: FrameMaker Server User Interface??

[Max Dunn]

 this floored me since the last time it 
 was a single CD that a one-person IT 
 department installed in a few hours.
 Has the Server version changed?

No, it hasn't changed. There are still things you can do with it pretty
much as is, although the server form is just a license, (the software
on the cd is identical between server and desktop!); expense will
depend on which you choose from the many server side ways you can use
Frame. It is possible to spend as much as you like on front end systems,
or you can use it via free tools like DZBatcher, plugins you write
yourself, whatever.

 And the Adobe site says that Server needs 
 a companion and must be integrated into 
 a solution before it is ready for use. 
 You can either purchase third-party 
 solutions (From Datazone or Finite Matters 
 Limited) or you can build your own solution 
 using Frame Developers Kit.

We have used it extensively with Miramo, and via home-built plugins, and
with DZ Batcher. There are many ways to use it as a server and I could
never figure out from the license the fine line between server usage
of FrameMaker, though in our case it is usually a back end system for
Web PDF generation, which was pretty obvious. Miramo was worth it in
some cases for scalability/ease of administration, though other
solutions cost very little, yet had more time/effort or were simply less
demanding.

Hopefully with the next FrameMaker they will do something to
differentiate server from desktop, and offer some sort of jump start.
$25,000 would not be unreasonable for a robust plugin that would let you
leverage FrameMaker as a server more directly, but that should be the
sort of investment Adobe makes in the product, not each shop has to ante
up, and there are also plenty of alternatives.

If you do end up with Frame Server then in purchasing it, there sure is
a better deal with an upgrade from desktop than an outright
purchase...


Max Dunn
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Adjusting dialog box sizes in Framemaker?

[Michael Zaichenko]

I use reshacker. Works well. I have the whole interface in Greek now.
Michael


>From: "Van Boening, Tammy" 
>To: 
>Subject: Adjusting dialog box sizes in Framemaker?
>Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:23:08 -0600
>
>Argh, I know that this topic has been covered before, but the archives
>keep timing out on my right now and my google search has resulted in
>zilch. Isn't there a plugin available from someone/somewhere that allows
>you to adjust the sizes of dialog boxes in Framemaker? Like, right now,
>when my books are generating/updating, I cannot for the life of me see
>the whole path/file name and I need to. Also, in the PDF Setup dialog
>box, I have to scroll to see all my bookmarks, and I want to be able to
>see them all in one view so that I can make sure that I have  my
>indentation levels set up correctly before generating the .pdf.
>
>TIA,
>
>TVB
>
>Tammy L. Van Boening
>Senior Technical Writer
>Fiserv Insurance Solutions
>Property and Casualty Division
>303-729-7733
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Doc Architecture Challenge: Linking Between Books

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Angela,

just use descriptive titles for your hyperlinks, for example:

See Concepts Guide > Configuring xyz.

Indeed, if a user downloads a pdf of one book, and not the other, the links
will not work, but I guess the user will be smart enough to download the
other guide and then use the navigational aids (TOC, IX, bookmarks, ...) of
the other guide.

Good luck

Yves

Table title alignment oddity

[Reng, Winfried Dr.]

Hi,

The table title frame spans only the text column (without
sidehead area) if the table columns have only the width of
the text column. If the table columns are wider than the
text column, the table title frame spans the text column
plus the sidehead area.

Eventually your table columns are too wide.

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> ]On Behalf
> Of Linda G. Gallagher
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 12:33 AM
> To: 'Combs, Richard'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity
> 
> 
> Well, maybe I've found a bug. I assure you the para tag the tables are
> anchored to is set to In Column, but the frame for the table 
> title goes to
> the left side of the side head area when I insert a new table.
> 
> Some existing tables of this same style, anchored to the same 
> para tag, have
> the title frame aligned with the text, that is, not in the 
> side head area.
> Other existing tables similarly anchored have the title frame 
> all the way to
> the side head area.
> 
> So, when I set the table title style to indent, it works fine 
> in tables I
> insert and in some existing tables, but other existing tables end up
> indenting the table title too much, because the title frame 
> is only in the
> main text area.
> 
> Reapplying the table style or para styles or anything else 
> does not help get
> all these tables of the same style to look the same.
> 
> To add to the fun, two different table styles, one set to 0 
> Left and the
> other set to .25 Left, align identically. The title goes all 
> the way through
> the side head area, but the table starts in the main text 
> area (not in the
> side head). Both are anchored to the same para tag type. Are 
> we having fun
> yet???
> 
> It's making me a little nuts. =:o
> 
> 
> ~
> Linda G. Gallagher
> TechCom Plus, LLC
> lindag at techcomplus dot com
> www.techcomplus.com
> 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
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>  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.combs at Polycom.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:18 PM
> To: Linda G. Gallagher; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity
> 
> Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
>  
> > The tables are all anchored to paragraphs that are in the 
> > main text area, not in the side head area.
> 
> Are you sure? Really? Double-check this in Paragraph Designer's
> Pagination tab. Are the anchor pgfs all set to In Column? It's not
> enough that they _be_ in the column (via an indent setting, for
> instance) -- are they _defined_ as In Column?
>  
> > I hope this is making sense. The crux of the problem is 
> > inconsistent behavior of where tables and table titles align 
> > in relation to side head area. What controls this?
> 
> The anchor pgf is supposed to control this. I've just 
> confirmed this in
> my current doc. We anchor tables in TableAnchor pgfs, which are set on
> the Pagination tab to Across All Columns and Side Heads. 
> 
> A left-aligned table anchored in a TableAnchor pgf starts at the text
> frame edge (in the sidehead area) plus its Left Indent. The 
> Title frame
> above it starts at the text frame edge (in the sidehead 
> area), too, and
> the TableTitle pgf in it is indented by its Left Indent amount. 
> 
> If I change the table's anchor pgf from TableAnchor to 
> FigAnchor (which
> is set to In Column), both the table and its Title frame jump 
> rightward
> into the text column. 
> 
> If you have two tables anchored in identical In Column anchor 
> pgfs, and
> one aligns left across the sidehead area and the other 
> doesn't, I think
> you've found a real bug. 
> 
> Later, Linda also wrote:
> 
> > The table title is set to In Column. Forgot to mention that. 
> 
> That setting actually is irrelevant. The title pgf is in its own text
> frame (if you work with View > Borders on -- and you should, IMHO --
> you'll see it). That frame has a single column with no sidehead. You
> can't change it, either. 
> 
> You can control the placement of the title pgf within the Title frame
> using its indent settings. 
> 
> HTH!
> Richard
> 
> 
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Looking for a documentation portal example

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Hi John,

I totally agree with your thoughts regrading presentation and I did not
want to disregard PDF.

But especially with a library full of documents, and a user base who
doesn't know in which document to look for a solution, I think it is
easier to built an HTML-based server-side search than forcing the user
to download all PDFs together with the Acrobat Catalog data for
acceptable full-text search.

When documents are distributed via CD/DVD this is not a issue.

Regarding CSS formatting: This might give you acceptable print quality
with additional logos a the top of each page, but e.g. no page numbers,
etc.  So my advice is to always offer PDF as an option, not only because
it is so simple to generate it using FrameMaker.

Thanks for the links so far, the Advanced Search of the IRS site are a
dream come true in terms of power.

- Michael

Am 18.04.2007 22:57, John Posada schrieb/wrote:
> 
>> But, wouldn't it be desirable to have all that information in HTML
>> format: better navigation options, more efficient search, search
> 
> no.

Another missing fonts question

[Steve Rickaby]

At 13:44 -0600 18/4/07, Combs, Richard wrote:

>Cadel_Janice at emc.com wrote:
> 
>> I inherited some documentation, and I get an error message
>> "The "Frutiger-Black" Font is not available."  Does anyone
>> know where I can download that font for free or does anyone
>> know anything about that font.  I am using FM 7.2 unstructured.
>
>The original Frutiger fonts are from Linotype. You can buy the one you
>need, or a family of different weights and styles, from Linotype, Adobe,
>or font resellers like MyFonts.com. Single fonts start at $24 at the
>latter.
>
>There may be free versions, but I'd advise buying from a reputable
>source, especially for business use. Freebies are frequently
>poor-quality ripoffs that come with ethical, aesthetic, and sometimes
>technical problems.
>
>A Google search for "Frutiger" will point you toward lots of information
>about the font and its designer. Fonts have to be designed, remember,
>and the people who do that deserve to be paid.

Be very careful with Frutiger - there are a lot of incompatible versions 
around. Monotype Frutiger, for example, uses different internal names to 
Linotype Frutiger.

My search suggests that 'Frutiger 75 Black' is exclusively a Linotype variant:



It is also available from Monotype:



I could find no specific 'Frutiger Black'.

-- 
Steve

Doc Architecture Challenge: Linking Between Books

[Steve Rickaby]

At 09:16 +0200 19/4/07, Yves Barbion wrote:

>Indeed, if a user downloads a pdf of one book, and not the other, the links
>will not work, but I guess the user will be smart enough to download the
>other guide and then use the navigational aids (TOC, IX, bookmarks, ...) of
>the other guide.

Are you sure? As long as the rule that *all* involved files are open when the 
Ps is created for the PDFs, links do seem to work. The rules seem to be that:

. *All* source files involved in linking must be open when *any* Postscript is 
created

. PDFs must be loaded into the same [relative] directories as the source files

. No PDFs must be renamed

I have in the past created a global directory to a set of user guides, using an 
ur-book. All the PDFs were placed on CD-ROM and the hyperlinks from the global 
directory keyed into the separate files ok.

-- 
Steve

Do we an import tool to import .mif files into AuthorIT

[vikram chugh]

Hi,
We have been asked to used AuthorIT to generate onlinr
help. Our source files are in FrameMaker, but when we
want to import these files into AuthirIT we getting a
lot of junk text. I wanted to konow if there is any
import tool where we can import .mif files into
AuthorIT. Any kind of help would be appriciated.
Thanks,
Vikram Chugh


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Handling several language versions of documentation and graphics

[Andersen, Verner Engell VEA]

Hi
We are going to tranlate our English manuals into several languages. I have 
always inserted graphics by link in FrameMaker.

For each manual to be translated we need 70% new language-specific drawings.
For each release of a product there is a 70% reuse of drawings from the 
previous release

Which directory structure and working method do you suggest so that it is easy 
to create a new version of a manual and keep links to all graphics.

When I only had English manuals I simply copied the whole document folder to a 
network store and renamed my working folder to the next edition.
Then I would update the changed drawings in that folder.

Now we are talking about several manuals in 21 languages and many translators. 
Each manual may contain 200 drawings.

Regards,



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Technical Writer

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better diff tool?

[Fred Wersan]

I've been thinking about using Framescript to do something to all edited 
text to make it stand out, for example, underline it or apply a 
condition. That would separate out the real changes from the other 
things that change bars pick up, but which don't really matter for 
reviewing updated doc.

After the review cycle is over, I would get rid of the underlines or 
whatever.

Haven't done it yet, though, so I can't say how well it would work. I'm 
not sure what I would do about deletions.

An alternative which might work for your engineers would be to save the 
files as text (or export to HTML or XML) before and after and let them 
use the diff tools they are comfortable with. Formatting probably 
wouldn't matter much, you'd just care about what was changed. Ugly, but 
maybe doable.

Fred
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Doc Architecture Challenge: Linking Between Books

[Angela Akridge]

That's a good point, but I'm not delivering via CD-ROM. The user downloads
the PDF from the company's website.

switched printers -- now HelvObl prints with extra slant

[Paul Findon]

On 19 Apr 2007, at 07:00, f"L MORITSUGU"   
wrote:

> I'm using FM 6.5, Mac, in Classic. I was printing to a Laserwriter  
> Select
> 360, through an AsanteTalk bridge, and everything looked as it should.
>
> I've just switched to a Lexmark E120n laser printer. Now it prints  
> Helvetica
> bold oblique and Helvetica oblique with an additional slant. (I  
> have not
> checked if this is also happening with other fonts.)
>
> I've reinstalled the fonts, then installed a different version (from a
> colleague) of the fonts into the System 9 Fonts folder, and  
> restarted FM,
> with no change.
>
> This also happened, before I switched the printers (machines), when  
> I made
> pdfs from the FM files, either using a.) Save as, then Distiller,  
> or b.)
> Print to file, then Distiller.
>
> It's probably something obvious, but I don't get it. Any ideas?

What font format are you using?

Does the issue also occur with other Mac OS 9 apps?

Does the issue occur with other fonts?

I always delete the TrueType Times, Helvetica, Symbol, etc., included  
with Mac OS 9 and replace with PostScript Type 1 versions.

BTW, there's a bunch of Mac FrameMaker users on the FrameMaker for  
Mac OS X discussion group at:


Paul

Another missing fonts question

[Art Campbell]

If you inherited legacy corporate documentation, I'd bet that EMC owns
the fonts already, but they just weren't installed on your system,
probably because the people who set up systems don't think of "fonts"
as part of a writer's workstation. I'd start checking with IT and
other departments to find out where they are

Also, remember that the internal font names are what you're trying to
match. As others have pointed out, Linotype or a reseller is your only
option to exactly match the originals...

Art

On 4/18/07, Cadel_Janice at emc.com  wrote:
> I inherited some documentation, and I get an error message "The
> "Frutiger-Black" Font is not available."  Does anyone know where I can
> download that font for free or does anyone know anything about that
> font.  I am using FM 7.2 unstructured.
>
> Thanks,
> Janice
>
>
> Janice Cadel
> Principal Technical Writer
> EMC, Inc.
> 2600 Tower Oaks Blvd.
> Rockville, MD  20852
> 240.747.6407
> fax: 240-747.6217
> cadel_janice at emc.com

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switched printers -- now HelvObl prints with extra slant

[Art Campbell]

You don't mention whether the printers are PS printers or not; if so
they may have resident fonts which aren't invoked on your system.

I'd set the Printer metrics line in maker.ini to ON, to get accurate
screen display. And I'd also set the Adobe distiller printer instance
as the default.

Art

On 4/18/07, L MORITSUGU  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm using FM 6.5, Mac, in Classic. I was printing to a Laserwriter Select
> 360, through an AsanteTalk bridge, and everything looked as it should.
>
> I've just switched to a Lexmark E120n laser printer. Now it prints Helvetica
> bold oblique and Helvetica oblique with an additional slant. (I have not
> checked if this is also happening with other fonts.)
>
> I've reinstalled the fonts, then installed a different version (from a
> colleague) of the fonts into the System 9 Fonts folder, and restarted FM,
> with no change.
>
> This also happened, before I switched the printers (machines), when I made
> pdfs from the FM files, either using a.) Save as, then Distiller, or b.)
> Print to file, then Distiller.
>
> It's probably something obvious, but I don't get it. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Louise Moritsugu
>
>
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Doc Architecture Challenge: Linking Between Books

[Steve Rickaby]

At 05:51 -0700 19/4/07, Angela Akridge wrote:

>That's a good point, but I'm not delivering via CD-ROM. The user downloads
>the PDF from the company's website.

If you're responding to my point, then it should make no difference as long as 
the recipient stored the cross-linked PDFs in the same folder and does not 
rename individual files.

-- 
Steve

better diff tool?

[Art Campbell]

Have you used Files > Utilites > Compare docs?
The changes seem pretty vivid in the composite document.

Art

On 4/19/07, Fred Wersan  wrote:
> I've been thinking about using Framescript to do something to all edited
> text to make it stand out, for example, underline it or apply a
> condition. That would separate out the real changes from the other
> things that change bars pick up, but which don't really matter for
> reviewing updated doc.



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Doc Architecture Challenge: Linking Between Books

[Art Campbell]

So why not deliver both books both individually and either in a .PDF
package (new in Acrobat 8) or in a zip file marked as the product's
Documentation Set?

Art



On 4/19/07, Angela Akridge  wrote:
> That's a good point, but I'm not delivering via CD-ROM. The user downloads
> the PDF from the company's website.
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Looking for a documentation portal example

[Bill Swallow]

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/default.aspx

On 4/18/07, Michael M?ller-Hillebrand  wrote:
> Have you seen such a (public) documentation portal? I am looking around
> myself, but would be thankful for every link you can give me.

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Looking for a documentation portal example

[Bill Swallow]

> I favor having both if possible, if for no other
> reason that Google can find and correctly index masses
> of HTML pages (its PDF indexing is good but doesn't
> seem to understand the different search priorities of
> entities in the document, making it like an ASCII file
> in terms of rankings).

Chris, this simply isn't true. Google will index the full text but
will pull from the document properties first to catagorize the
indexing for the document. If you use your doc tage correctly, you
will see better results - same goes for HTML and meta information.

http://www.acrobatusers.com/articles/2006/02/pdf_for_google/pdf_for_google.php

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Adjusting dialog box sizes in Framemaker?

[Laura Larson]

I've had good results with Klaus Daube's plugin.

http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker36.html#2 

The only thing I wish it would do a little better is display the full
filename of source graphics in cases where Frame is looking for missing
files. We have graphics spread all over different servers (ugly I know)
and knowing more than just a subfolder or two would be really helpful. 

Otherwise, I've been very happy using it. 

Laura Larson
Electronic Clearing House, Inc.
Lakewood, CO 80228 
(303) 650-0474 
llarson at echo-inc.com 

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Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:49 PM
To: Van Boening, Tammy
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Adjusting dialog box sizes in Framemaker?

Van Boening, Tammy wrote:
> Argh, I know that this topic has been covered before, but the archives

> keep timing out on my right now and my google search has resulted in 
> zilch. Isn't there a plugin available from someone/somewhere that 
> allows you to adjust the sizes of dialog boxes in Framemaker? Like, 
> right now, when my books are generating/updating, I cannot for the 
> life of me see the whole path/file name and I need to. Also, in the 
> PDF Setup dialog box, I have to scroll to see all my bookmarks, and I 
> want to be able to see them all in one view so that I can make sure 
> that I have  my indentation levels set up correctly before generating
the .pdf.

You can use ResHacker (cautiously! backup your files before messing with
'em) http://www.angusj.com/resourcehacker/

Use it on the fmdlg.dll file in your fminit folder.

--
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Phoenix Geophysics Limited
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switched printers -- now HelvObl prints with extra slant

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Art:

FYI - on Mac FrameMaker, the maker.ini settings aren't in an exposed 
file, as they are on Windows and UNIX. They're inside the single 
application file. To change these settings requires using a dangerous 
resource editor, similar to registry editing on Windows.

Regards,

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Art Campbell wrote:
> I'd set the Printer metrics line in maker.ini to ON, to get accurate
> screen display. And I'd also set the Adobe distiller printer instance
> as the default.
>
> Art

better diff tool?

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I've started to use conditional text for different drafts. Each draft is 
a different color, all are underlined. I have a separate template which 
only has those conditional text defined, so I can apply that template 
without interfering with other conditional text. The PDF will the colors 
(or if you have a color printer). All of them can be spotted on a black 
and white printers by the underline.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Fred Wersan wrote:
> I've been thinking about using Framescript to do something to all 
> edited text to make it stand out, for example, underline it or apply a 
> condition. That would separate out the real changes from the other 
> things that change bars pick up, but which don't really matter for 
> reviewing updated doc.
>
> After the review cycle is over, I would get rid of the underlines or 
> whatever.
>
> Haven't done it yet, though, so I can't say how well it would work. 
> I'm not sure what I would do about deletions.
>
> An alternative which might work for your engineers would be to save 
> the files as text (or export to HTML or XML) before and after and let 
> them use the diff tools they are comfortable with. Formatting probably 
> wouldn't matter much, you'd just care about what was changed. Ugly, 
> but maybe doable.
>
> Fred

QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Framers,

I'm looking for a conversion tool to convert QuarkXPress files to
FrameMaker. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

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QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

[Art Campbell]

Windows 7.2 is supposed to support direct import of Quark; not sure
about earlier versions.
Is it not doing something you need?

Art

On 4/19/07, Yves Barbion  wrote:
> Hi Framers,
>
> I'm looking for a conversion tool to convert QuarkXPress files to
> FrameMaker. Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Yves Barbion
> Documentation Architect
> Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor

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Handling several language versions of documentation and graphics

[Martinek, Carla]

Do not worry about changing the structure of your graphics as they are
used/stored on your network.

Instead, use the Archive plug-in to make an archive of your COMPLETED
doc before you send it to the translators.  You can purchase Archive for
$25 at http://home.comcast.net/~bruce.foster/Archive.htm.  I can't
recommend this plug-in enough.

Send the archived copy of your doc to the translators.  They will
translate everything as needed, and then send the files back to you.  

Structure before I send it to the translators:

  EN folder
  --Graphics

After translators:

  EN folder
  --Graphics

  FR folder
  --Graphics

  DE folder
  --Graphics

  ES folder
  --Graphics

Because the archive plug-in pulls a copy of every graphic used in the
doc, makes a copy and then redirects the links in the new files, you
don't have to worry about where the docs were originally on your network
server.  The newly archived FM files will point to the subfolder
"Graphics" that Archive creates, and each language version of the doc
will mirror the same structure.

Hope that helps,
-Carla

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switched printers -- now HelvObl prints with extra slant

[L MORITSUGU]

Thanks very much for your suggestions. I fixed it, a day and a half later, 
after installing the fonts through Font Book, not directly into the System 9 
Fonts folder (which I thought I'd read somewhere was the same thing, but 
maybe not).

Thanks.

Louise Moritsugu


>From: Paul Findon 
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Re: switched printers -- now HelvObl prints with extra slant
>Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:09:09 +0100
>
>On 19 Apr 2007, at 07:00, f"L MORITSUGU"   wrote:
>
>>I'm using FM 6.5, Mac, in Classic. I was printing to a Laserwriter  Select
>>360, through an AsanteTalk bridge, and everything looked as it should.
>>
>>I've just switched to a Lexmark E120n laser printer. Now it prints  
>>Helvetica
>>bold oblique and Helvetica oblique with an additional slant. (I  have not
>>checked if this is also happening with other fonts.)
>>
>>I've reinstalled the fonts, then installed a different version (from a
>>colleague) of the fonts into the System 9 Fonts folder, and  restarted FM,
>>with no change.
>>
>>This also happened, before I switched the printers (machines), when  I 
>>made
>>pdfs from the FM files, either using a.) Save as, then Distiller,  or b.)
>>Print to file, then Distiller.
>>
>>It's probably something obvious, but I don't get it. Any ideas?
>
>What font format are you using?
>
>Does the issue also occur with other Mac OS 9 apps?
>
>Does the issue occur with other fonts?
>
>I always delete the TrueType Times, Helvetica, Symbol, etc., included  with 
>Mac OS 9 and replace with PostScript Type 1 versions.
>
>BTW, there's a bunch of Mac FrameMaker users on the FrameMaker for  Mac OS 
>X discussion group at:
>
>
>Paul
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switched printers -- now HelvObl prints with extra slant

[Mike Wickham]

I once saw a similar instance with a font-- where FrameMaker added an extra 
slant to italics. This particular font was one  that I created in 
Fontographer because I the font family had no italic version available for 
purchase. Fontographer (or, more likely, my knowledge of it!) must create 
fonts in a weird way because FrameMaker saw this font as a regular font. 
Assigning it the italic attribute in FrameMaker put an extra slant on it. 
The solution was to treat it as a regular font, so that it would print as a 
normal italic.

Mike Wickham

- Original Message - 
From: "L MORITSUGU" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:07 AM
Subject: switched printers -- now HelvObl prints with extra slant


>
> Hi,
>
> I'm using FM 6.5, Mac, in Classic. I was printing to a Laserwriter Select 
> 360, through an AsanteTalk bridge, and everything looked as it should.
>
> I've just switched to a Lexmark E120n laser printer. Now it prints 
> Helvetica bold oblique and Helvetica oblique with an additional slant. (I 
> have not checked if this is also happening with other fonts.)
>
> I've reinstalled the fonts, then installed a different version (from a 
> colleague) of the fonts into the System 9 Fonts folder, and restarted FM, 
> with no change.
>
> This also happened, before I switched the printers (machines), when I made 
> pdfs from the FM files, either using a.) Save as, then Distiller, or b.) 
> Print to file, then Distiller.
>
> It's probably something obvious, but I don't get it. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Louise Moritsugu
>
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QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

[Yves Barbion]

Frame 7.2 can import QuarkXPress files, but only up to Quark version 4.1

On 4/19/07, Art Campbell  wrote:
>
> Windows 7.2 is supposed to support direct import of Quark; not sure
> about earlier versions.
> Is it not doing something you need?
>
> Art
>
> On 4/19/07, Yves Barbion  wrote:
> > Hi Framers,
> >
> > I'm looking for a conversion tool to convert QuarkXPress files to
> > FrameMaker. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > --
> > Yves Barbion
> > Documentation Architect
> > Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
>
> --
> Art Campbell
> art.campbell at gmail.com
>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
>and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No disclaimers apply.
>  DoD 358
>



-- 
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Documentation Architect
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor


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SV: QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

[Jacob Schäffer]

I don't know of many non-Quark applications that generally can load newer 
QXD-files than those saved in QuarkXpress 4.1 format.

However, QuarkXpress versions newer than 4.1 can save backwards (usually 
without significant losses). Hence, if you really think conversion to FM format 
offer sufficient value to you, then you have to face a manual process.

All the best
Jacob Sch?ffer
Not an Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor. 



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Sendt: 19. april 2007 20:40
Til: Art Campbell
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Emne: Re: QuarkXPress to FrameMaker


Frame 7.2 can import QuarkXPress files, but only up to Quark version 4.1

On 4/19/07, Art Campbell  wrote:
>
> Windows 7.2 is supposed to support direct import of Quark; not sure 
> about earlier versions. Is it not doing something you need?
>
> Art
>
> On 4/19/07, Yves Barbion  wrote:
> > Hi Framers,
> >
> > I'm looking for a conversion tool to convert QuarkXPress files to 
> > FrameMaker. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > --
> > Yves Barbion
> > Documentation Architect
> > Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
>
> --
> Art Campbell
> art.campbell at gmail.com
>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
>and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No disclaimers apply.
>  DoD 358
>



-- 
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Documentation Architect
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor 

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9031 Gent
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QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

[Art Campbell]

If you don't want to save Quark to an earlier version, or can't,
another option may be to print it out to PDF and save the PDF as RTF.
Then import that.

Art

On 4/19/07, Jacob Sch?ffer  wrote:
> I don't know of many non-Quark applications that generally can load newer 
> QXD-files than those saved in QuarkXpress 4.1 format.
>
> However, QuarkXpress versions newer than 4.1 can save backwards (usually 
> without significant losses). Hence, if you really think conversion to FM 
> format offer sufficient value to you, then you have to face a manual process.
>
> All the best
> Jacob Sch?ffer
> Not an Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor.
>
>
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: framers-bounces+js=grafikhuset.dk at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+js=grafikhuset.dk at lists.frameusers.com] P? vegne 
> af Yves Barbion
> Sendt: 19. april 2007 20:40
> Til: Art Campbell
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Emne: Re: QuarkXPress to FrameMaker
>
>
> Frame 7.2 can import QuarkXPress files, but only up to Quark version 4.1
>
> On 4/19/07, Art Campbell  wrote:
> >
> > Windows 7.2 is supposed to support direct import of Quark; not sure
> > about earlier versions. Is it not doing something you need?
> >
> > Art
> >
> > On 4/19/07, Yves Barbion  wrote:
> > > Hi Framers,
> > >
> > > I'm looking for a conversion tool to convert QuarkXPress files to
> > > FrameMaker. Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Yves Barbion
> > > Documentation Architect
> > > Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
> >
> > --
> > Art Campbell
> > art.campbell at gmail.com
> >   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
> >and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
> >  No disclaimers apply.
> >  DoD 358
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Yves Barbion
> Documentation Architect
> Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor 
>
> Scripto bvba
> Asselsstraat 65
> 9031 Gent
> Belgium
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> F: +32 9 366 50 32
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 DoD 358

Table title alignment oddity - solved

[Linda G. Gallagher]

Well, I didn't think was it at first, but it turns out it was! 

In the template file, the tables overran the main text area ever so
slightly. When I made the columns a little narrower, sure enough, the table
title box popped back inside the main text area.

Thank you, Winfried!!


~
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TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
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User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
WebWorks ePublisher templates
 
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[mailto:framers-bounces+lindag=techcomplus.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Reng, Winfried Dr.
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 1:27 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity

Hi,

The table title frame spans only the text column (without
sidehead area) if the table columns have only the width of
the text column. If the table columns are wider than the
text column, the table title frame spans the text column
plus the sidehead area.

Eventually your table columns are too wide.

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> ]On Behalf
> Of Linda G. Gallagher
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 12:33 AM
> To: 'Combs, Richard'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity
> 
> 
> Well, maybe I've found a bug. I assure you the para tag the tables are
> anchored to is set to In Column, but the frame for the table 
> title goes to
> the left side of the side head area when I insert a new table.
> 
> Some existing tables of this same style, anchored to the same 
> para tag, have
> the title frame aligned with the text, that is, not in the 
> side head area.
> Other existing tables similarly anchored have the title frame 
> all the way to
> the side head area.
> 
> So, when I set the table title style to indent, it works fine 
> in tables I
> insert and in some existing tables, but other existing tables end up
> indenting the table title too much, because the title frame 
> is only in the
> main text area.
> 
> Reapplying the table style or para styles or anything else 
> does not help get
> all these tables of the same style to look the same.
> 
> To add to the fun, two different table styles, one set to 0 
> Left and the
> other set to .25 Left, align identically. The title goes all 
> the way through
> the side head area, but the table starts in the main text 
> area (not in the
> side head). Both are anchored to the same para tag type. Are 
> we having fun
> yet???
> 
> It's making me a little nuts. =:o
> 
> 
> ~
> Linda G. Gallagher
> TechCom Plus, LLC
> lindag at techcomplus dot com
> www.techcomplus.com
> 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
> User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
> WebWorks ePublisher templates
>  
> Manager, STC Consulting and Independent
> Contracting SIG
> http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html
>  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.combs at Polycom.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:18 PM
> To: Linda G. Gallagher; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity
> 
> Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
>  
> > The tables are all anchored to paragraphs that are in the 
> > main text area, not in the side head area.
> 
> Are you sure? Really? Double-check this in Paragraph Designer's
> Pagination tab. Are the anchor pgfs all set to In Column? It's not
> enough that they _be_ in the column (via an indent setting, for
> instance) -- are they _defined_ as In Column?
>  
> > I hope this is making sense. The crux of the problem is 
> > inconsistent behavior of where tables and table titles align 
> > in relation to side head area. What controls this?
> 
> The anchor pgf is supposed to control this. I've just 
> confirmed this in
> my current doc. We anchor tables in TableAnchor pgfs, which are set on
> the Pagination tab to Across All Columns and Side Heads. 
> 
> A left-aligned table anchored in a TableAnchor pgf starts at the text
> frame edge (in the sidehead area) plus its Left Indent. The 
> Title frame
> above it starts at the text frame edge (in the sidehead 
> area), too, and
> the TableTitle pgf in it is indented by its Left Indent amount. 
> 
> If I change the table's anchor pgf from TableAnchor to 
> FigAnchor (which
> is set to In Column), both the table and its Title frame jump 
> rightward
> into the text column. 
> 
> If you have two tables anchored in identical In Column anchor 
> pgfs, and
> one aligns left across the sidehead area and the other 
> doesn't, I think
> 

QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

[Dov Isaacs]

The filter for QuarkXPress import into FrameMaker was
hacked from the equivalent InDesign filter and only
supports QuarkXPress 3.x and 4.x files. Newer files
(5, 6, and 7) cannot be opened in FrameMaker due to the
fact that Quark encrypts their version 5, 6, and 7 
documents and any software that attempts to break that
encryption without permission is breaking the DMCA
(the Digital Millenium Copyright Act).

- Dov

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com]
>  On Behalf Of Art Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 8:53 AM
> To: Yves Barbion
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: QuarkXPress to FrameMaker
> 
> Windows 7.2 is supposed to support direct import of Quark; not sure
> about earlier versions.
> Is it not doing something you need?
> 
> Art
> 
> On 4/19/07, Yves Barbion  wrote:
> > Hi Framers,
> >
> > I'm looking for a conversion tool to convert QuarkXPress files to
> > FrameMaker. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > --
> > Yves Barbion
> > Documentation Architect
> > Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
> 
> -- 
> Art Campbell 
> 

QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

[Dov Isaacs]

No.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Litchfield [mailto:alan at alphabyte.co.nz] 
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: QuarkXPress to FrameMaker
> 
> So, is there a filter for Quark tagged text (.xtg)?
> 
> Cheers
> Alan
> 
> ((Damn, I keep forgetting that on this list I have to click on Reply  
> All, not just Reply.))
> 
> On 20/04/2007, at 8:22 AM, Dov Isaacs wrote:
> 
> > The filter for QuarkXPress import into FrameMaker was
> > hacked from the equivalent InDesign filter and only
> > supports QuarkXPress 3.x and 4.x files. Newer files
> > (5, 6, and 7) cannot be opened in FrameMaker due to the
> > fact that Quark encrypts their version 5, 6, and 7
> > documents and any software that attempts to break that
> > encryption without permission is breaking the DMCA
> > (the Digital Millenium Copyright Act).
> >
> > - Dov

QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

[Peter Gold]

markzware.com makes some Quark conversion filters for 7.x and 6.x, 
though nothing explicitly to FrameMaker. You might query them.

Also, dtptools.com has a MIF->QXP filter; 
http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=mfqx You might query them about 
anything that converts in the other direction they may be planning.


HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

>> The filter for QuarkXPress import into FrameMaker was
>> hacked from the equivalent InDesign filter and only
>> supports QuarkXPress 3.x and 4.x files. Newer files
>> (5, 6, and 7) cannot be opened in FrameMaker due to the
>> fact that Quark encrypts their version 5, 6, and 7
>> documents and any software that attempts to break that
>> encryption without permission is breaking the DMCA
>> (the Digital Millenium Copyright Act).

QuarkXPress to FrameMaker

[Kenneth C. Benson]

From: "Art Campbell" 

> If you don't want to save Quark to an earlier version, or can't, another
option may be to print it out to PDF and save the PDF as RTF.


Or just Save RTF (or Word) directly out of Quark. That, I think, will get
you styled text.

Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com

FrameMaker Server "User Interface"??

[Randall C. Reed]

A few years ago, we installed a server-based version of Frame: No
documentation, little product knowledge on the part of the Adobe
customer service folks. Now, new company, same need. This time, our IT
department tells us that we need  "software programming to build the
interface for the control/security/access features." to the tune of
$25,000 worth of software programming consultant time. This floored me
since the last time it was a single CD that a one-person IT department
installed in a few hours.
Has the Server version changed?
And the Adobe site says that Server needs a companion and "must be
integrated into a solution before it is ready for use. You can either
purchase third-part solutions (From Datazone or Finite Matters Limited)
or you can build your own solution using Frame Developers Kit."
I don't recall us using FDK or third-party solution before. What
experiences do other Listers have for FM Server?
TIA,

Randy


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FrameMaker Server "User Interface"??

[Max Dunn]

> this floored me since the last time it 
> was a single CD that a one-person IT 
> department installed in a few hours.
> Has the Server version changed?

No, it hasn't changed. There are still things you can do with it pretty
much as is, although the "server" form is just a license, (the software
on the cd is identical between "server" and "desktop"!); expense will
depend on which you choose from the many "server side" ways you can use
Frame. It is possible to spend as much as you like on front end systems,
or you can use it via free tools like DZBatcher, plugins you write
yourself, whatever.

> And the Adobe site says that Server needs 
> a companion and "must be integrated into 
> a solution before it is ready for use. 
> You can either purchase third-party 
> solutions (From Datazone or Finite Matters 
> Limited) or you can build your own solution 
> using Frame Developers Kit."

We have used it extensively with Miramo, and via home-built plugins, and
with DZ Batcher. There are many ways to use it as a "server" and I could
never figure out from the license the fine line between "server usage"
of FrameMaker, though in our case it is usually a back end system for
Web PDF generation, which was pretty obvious. Miramo was worth it in
some cases for scalability/ease of administration, though other
solutions cost very little, yet had more time/effort or were simply less
demanding.

Hopefully with the next FrameMaker they will do something to
differentiate server from desktop, and offer some sort of jump start.
$25,000 would not be unreasonable for a robust plugin that would let you
leverage FrameMaker as a server more directly, but that should be the
sort of investment Adobe makes in the product, not each shop has to ante
up, and there are also plenty of alternatives.

If you do end up with Frame Server then in purchasing it, there sure is
a better deal with an upgrade from "desktop" than an outright
purchase...


Max Dunn
Silicon Publishing



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FrameMaker Server "User Interface"??

[Dov Isaacs]

No change to the FrameMaker Server product, but obviously
your IT department is trying to setup a workflow beyond
that which your previous company implemented (even if the
base "need" is perceived to be the same).

- Dov 

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com]
>  On Behalf Of Randall C. Reed
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 3:43 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: FrameMaker Server "User Interface"??
> 
> A few years ago, we installed a server-based version of Frame: No
> documentation, little product knowledge on the part of the Adobe
> customer service folks. Now, new company, same need. This time, our IT
> department tells us that we need  "software programming to build the
> interface for the control/security/access features." to the tune of
> $25,000 worth of software programming consultant time. This floored me
> since the last time it was a single CD that a one-person IT department
> installed in a few hours.
> Has the Server version changed?
> And the Adobe site says that Server needs a companion and "must be
> integrated into a solution before it is ready for use. You can either
> purchase third-part solutions (From Datazone or Finite 
> Matters Limited)
> or you can build your own solution using Frame Developers Kit."
> I don't recall us using FDK or third-party solution before. What
> experiences do other Listers have for FM Server?
> TIA,
> 
> Randy