Frame in Windows emulation

[Graeme Worth]

I am considering moving from a Windows to a Linux OS and running Framemaker 
V6 in a Windows emulation. I am amware of 1 person who has successfully run 
FM 7 under Ubuntu in this manner, and I'd welcome any further observations 
or comments anyone may have before I commit to this path - eg is Wine 
better or worse than VMWare, are particular flavours of Linux better or 
worse for this sort of thing, etc
thanks
Graeme

Frame in Windows emulation

[Peter Ring]

I'm using FrameMaker 7.0 (and have verified that 7.2 also works) on 
CrossOver Linux Standard 6.1.0 (http://www.codeweavers.com) on Mandriva 
(kernel 2.6.22). Ubuntu would be very similar. There is a small number 
of features that do not work:
- Type 1 fonts
- 'Save as ...' PDF

http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/group/?app_parent=2361

FrameMaker 6.0 should also be OK.

I have not tried FrameMaker 8.0 on CrossOver. I would expect more trouble.

Kind regards,
Peter Ring


Graeme Worth wrote:
> I am considering moving from a Windows to a Linux OS and running 
> Framemaker V6 in a Windows emulation. I am amware of 1 person who has 
> successfully run FM 7 under Ubuntu in this manner, and I'd welcome any 
> further observations or comments anyone may have before I commit to this 
> path - eg is Wine better or worse than VMWare, are particular flavours 
> of Linux better or worse for this sort of thing, etc
> thanks
> Graeme
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"Times Font" - fixed in FM 8.0?

[Brad Simmons]

Hello fellow Frame users,

I have a question for those of you who are using the new FrameMaker 8.0
version: 

Has Adobe finally gotten around to fixing that blasted "Times Font"
problem? You know, the one where FrameMaker looks in vain for the "Times
font", and it will tell you that you don't have it - even when it's on
your PC? 

This issue has caused me more problems through the years, and I'll
readily go out and upgrade to 8.0 - provided that Adobe has finally
fixed this issue. 

Have any other bug fixes been solved with 8.0?

-Brad Simmons
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partial page graphic lines won't print

[Casher, Jeffrey]

I'm working with Frame 7.0 in a structured document. I have two graphics
in the document. The first is a single-sheet, half-page graphic,
followed by a four-sheet graphic. The first three sheets (of the
four-sheet graphic) are full-page graphics, the fourth sheet is a
half-page graphic. It is this fourth sheet that I'm having the problems
with.

 

All the graphics (cgm's) are imported by reference into anchored frames.
The three full-page graphics print fine (both hard copy and pdf), but
when I print the fourth sheet (partial page graphic), only the text
that's in the graphic gets printed; the lines in the graphic do not
print.

 

Here are some of the things I've tried:

 

I deleted the fourth sheet graphic from the anchored frame, and imported
the half-page graphic from the first illustration in the document; both
text and lines printed fine.

 

I deleted the half-page graphic from the first illustration and imported
the fourth sheet partial-page graphic; both text and lines printed fine.

 

I deleted the Fsheet element, the Image element and re-inserted the into
the document. I've re-exported the cgm from the IsoDraw program that I
used to create the graphic; I opened the cgm in IsoDraw and re-exported
that as a cgm; I opened the .iso file of the first illustration graphic,
saved it as a separate document, inserted the lines and text from the
problem graphic, exported that as cgm, imported into Frame document and
tried to print that, all to no avail.

 

But all that pales in comparison to this: When I put the problem graphic
in it's assigned place in the document and then select the anchored
frame and drag the bottom line of the frame to make the frame full-page,
with the title and figure number lines as the last two lines of text on
the page, the graphic prints (hardcopy and pdf) just fine. If I then
change the depth of the frame to allow any text at all on the page, the
lines in the graphic won't print, but the text in the graphic does
print.

 

I've also compared the object properties of the problem frame/graphic
with the others in the document, and I can't see any difference in the
properties.

 

If anyone has any helpful suggestions, I'd be grateful for any
assistance.

 

Jeffrey Casher

 

 

 

 

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Re: Structured Frame Primer

[Neeraj Jain]

Hi Steve,

I want to learn structured FM. Can you please provide a specific link within 
http://www.scriptorium.com from where I can study the same? I browsed 
scriptorium but found paid resources only. Please help me in learning.  

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Subject: Re: Structured Frame Primer

At 10:00 -0500 3/10/07, Alison Carrico wrote:

>Can anyone recommend a good primer for learning Structured Frame?  &/or
>a good reference for more advanced users? Is the User Manual reasonably
>good?

I used the Scriptorium Press material. Worked for me.



The Adoobe Struct App online guide is complete, but dense, and lacks a 
beginner's primer and overview, which makes it rather unfriendly. It's 
basically a reference guide.

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Bad Autonumbers

[Randall C. Reed]

Listers:

Unstructured Frame 7.2 on XP V2002 SP2: I've got 400 files in the book.
I cannot get a "work package number" autonumber to work properly in the
files at the beginning of the book. "P:000" just returns "0001".
I've gone into the document menu on both the book and individual files
and set the "Page" numbering feature to "Continue."  Updated book
numerous times. Re-imported formats. When I add a hard number to the
autonumber in an individual file, it immediately responds with the
correct value on the page, so apparently the tag and function are
working properly.

- What will fix these random "bad" autonumbers?

- If I "hardwire" the bad autonumber (change it from "P:000" to
"P:0008", for example) with the following  numbers pick up normally
("P:0009", etc., in this example)?

This is crazy. It is just an autonumber. I've been using FM for 13 years
and I know it is not suppose to be this hard to troubleshoot an
autonumber problem. Except for digesting 400 files in the book, it
should work like a champ, but it is not. What stupid thing am I doing
wrong?

TIA,

Randall C. Reed
Senior Technical Writer
Force Protection Industries, Inc. 

This material contains confidential and proprietary information of Force 
Protection, Inc. and its subsidiaries. Copying this material or disclosing such 
information to others without the Company's prior consent is prohibited. This 
material may also contain technical data relating to a "Defense Article" within 
the meaning of the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (22 CFR Part 120). 
The transfer or disclosure of this information to any non-U.S. person or 
company without any required export license approved by the United States 
Department of State, Directorate of Defense Trade Controls may be prohibited 
under federal law.
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Re: Structured questions

[Marcus Carr]

Joel wrote:

Preface: I am trying to learn Structured Frame, XML and DITA - it's 
all new to me.


Then trying to learn them concurrently with probably result in a poor 
outcome. You should consider learning XML first, then how FrameMaker is 
able to deal with XML data, then learn how DITA can be one type of XML 
that FrameMaker can deal with. The third one might be some way down the 
track though, if at all. Also, if you're only using DITA because it 
means that you don't have to fiddle with the setup too much, then I 
doubt if you need XML at all.


Why don't you tell us what you're trying to achieve instead of how 
you're trying to do it?



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Frame in Windows emulation

[Michael O'Neill]

I can confirm excellent results running a Windows VM in Ubuntu (6.X)
using the VMWare Server installed through Synaptic.

I can't say if Wine is better or worse than VMWare.  
With a Virtual Machine, you have higher system overhead to run the guest
OS...but a much greater likelihood that everything will work as you are
used to and as expected.  With Wine, you get to work in Linux, have
lower resource overhead, but some things may not work as expected/at
all.

I figured that *for me*, the approach with the least amount of risk was
to use a VM.  (The fact that Virtual Machines are understood by my
colleagues was also a consideration.  Linux is not (yet) a popular OS in
my office.)

-Michael

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[mailto:framers-bounces+moneill=meta-comm.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Graeme Worth
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 10:43 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame in Windows emulation

I am considering moving from a Windows to a Linux OS and running
Framemaker 
V6 in a Windows emulation. I am amware of 1 person who has successfully
run 
FM 7 under Ubuntu in this manner, and I'd welcome any further
observations 
or comments anyone may have before I commit to this path - eg is Wine 
better or worse than VMWare, are particular flavours of Linux better or 
worse for this sort of thing, etc
thanks
Graeme

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Structured Frame Primer

[Steve Rickaby]

At 10:00 -0500 3/10/07, Alison Carrico wrote:

>Can anyone recommend a good primer for learning Structured Frame?  &/or
>a good reference for more advanced users? Is the User Manual reasonably
>good?

I used the Scriptorium Press material. Worked for me.



The Adoobe Struct App online guide is complete, but dense, and lacks a 
beginner's primer and overview, which makes it rather unfriendly. It's 
basically a reference guide.

-- 
Steve

"Times Font" - fixed in FM 8.0?

[Brad Simmons]

Hello fellow Frame users,

I have a question for those of you who are using the new FrameMaker 8.0
version: 

Has Adobe finally gotten around to fixing that blasted "Times Font"
problem? You know, the one where FrameMaker looks in vain for the "Times
font", and it will tell you that you don't have it - even when it's on
your PC? 

This issue has caused me more problems through the years, and I'll
readily go out and upgrade to 8.0 - provided that Adobe has finally
fixed this issue. 

Have any other bug fixes been solved with 8.0?

-Brad Simmons

RE: Frame in Windows emulation

[Michael O'Neill]

I can confirm excellent results running a Windows VM in Ubuntu (6.X)
using the VMWare Server installed through Synaptic.

I can't say if Wine is better or worse than VMWare.  
With a Virtual Machine, you have higher system overhead to run the guest
OS...but a much greater likelihood that everything will work as you are
used to and as expected.  With Wine, you get to work in Linux, have
lower resource overhead, but some things may not work as expected/at
all.

I figured that *for me*, the approach with the least amount of risk was
to use a VM.  (The fact that Virtual Machines are understood by my
colleagues was also a consideration.  Linux is not (yet) a popular OS in
my office.)

-Michael

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Behalf Of Graeme Worth
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 10:43 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame in Windows emulation

I am considering moving from a Windows to a Linux OS and running
Framemaker 
V6 in a Windows emulation. I am amware of 1 person who has successfully
run 
FM 7 under Ubuntu in this manner, and I'd welcome any further
observations 
or comments anyone may have before I commit to this path - eg is Wine 
better or worse than VMWare, are particular flavours of Linux better or 
worse for this sort of thing, etc
thanks
Graeme

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Bad Autonumbers

[Randall C. Reed]

Listers:

Unstructured Frame 7.2 on XP V2002 SP2: I've got 400 files in the book.
I cannot get a "work package number" autonumber to work properly in the
files at the beginning of the book. "P:000" just returns "0001".
I've gone into the document menu on both the book and individual files
and set the "Page" numbering feature to "Continue."  Updated book
numerous times. Re-imported formats. When I add a hard number to the
autonumber in an individual file, it immediately responds with the
correct value on the page, so apparently the tag and function are
working properly.

- What will fix these random "bad" autonumbers?

- If I "hardwire" the bad autonumber (change it from "P:000" to
"P:0008", for example) with the following  numbers pick up normally
("P:0009", etc., in this example)?

This is crazy. It is just an autonumber. I've been using FM for 13 years
and I know it is not suppose to be this hard to troubleshoot an
autonumber problem. Except for digesting 400 files in the book, it
should work like a champ, but it is not. What stupid thing am I doing
wrong?

TIA,

Randall C. Reed
Senior Technical Writer
Force Protection Industries, Inc. 

This material contains confidential and proprietary information of Force 
Protection, Inc. and its subsidiaries. Copying this material or disclosing such 
information to others without the Company's prior consent is prohibited. This 
material may also contain technical data relating to a "Defense Article" within 
the meaning of the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (22 CFR Part 120). 
The transfer or disclosure of this information to any non-U.S. person or 
company without any required export license approved by the United States 
Department of State, Directorate of Defense Trade Controls may be prohibited 
under federal law.
Force Protection Industries, Inc.

Re: Frame in Windows emulation

[Peter Ring]

I'm using FrameMaker 7.0 (and have verified that 7.2 also works) on 
CrossOver Linux Standard 6.1.0 (http://www.codeweavers.com) on Mandriva 
(kernel 2.6.22). Ubuntu would be very similar. There is a small number 
of features that do not work:

- Type 1 fonts
- 'Save as ...' PDF

http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/group/?app_parent=2361

FrameMaker 6.0 should also be OK.

I have not tried FrameMaker 8.0 on CrossOver. I would expect more trouble.

Kind regards,
Peter Ring


Graeme Worth wrote:
I am considering moving from a Windows to a Linux OS and running 
Framemaker V6 in a Windows emulation. I am amware of 1 person who has 
successfully run FM 7 under Ubuntu in this manner, and I'd welcome any 
further observations or comments anyone may have before I commit to this 
path - eg is Wine better or worse than VMWare, are particular flavours 
of Linux better or worse for this sort of thing, etc

thanks
Graeme

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partial page graphic lines won't print

[Casher, Jeffrey]

I'm working with Frame 7.0 in a structured document. I have two graphics
in the document. The first is a single-sheet, half-page graphic,
followed by a four-sheet graphic. The first three sheets (of the
four-sheet graphic) are full-page graphics, the fourth sheet is a
half-page graphic. It is this fourth sheet that I'm having the problems
with.



All the graphics (cgm's) are imported by reference into anchored frames.
The three full-page graphics print fine (both hard copy and pdf), but
when I print the fourth sheet (partial page graphic), only the text
that's in the graphic gets printed; the lines in the graphic do not
print.



Here are some of the things I've tried:



I deleted the fourth sheet graphic from the anchored frame, and imported
the half-page graphic from the first illustration in the document; both
text and lines printed fine.



I deleted the half-page graphic from the first illustration and imported
the fourth sheet partial-page graphic; both text and lines printed fine.



I deleted the Fsheet element, the Image element and re-inserted the into
the document. I've re-exported the cgm from the IsoDraw program that I
used to create the graphic; I opened the cgm in IsoDraw and re-exported
that as a cgm; I opened the .iso file of the first illustration graphic,
saved it as a separate document, inserted the lines and text from the
problem graphic, exported that as cgm, imported into Frame document and
tried to print that, all to no avail.



But all that pales in comparison to this: When I put the problem graphic
in it's assigned place in the document and then select the anchored
frame and drag the bottom line of the frame to make the frame full-page,
with the title and figure number lines as the last two lines of text on
the page, the graphic prints (hardcopy and pdf) just fine. If I then
change the depth of the frame to allow any text at all on the page, the
lines in the graphic won't print, but the text in the graphic does
print.



I've also compared the object properties of the problem frame/graphic
with the others in the document, and I can't see any difference in the
properties.



If anyone has any helpful suggestions, I'd be grateful for any
assistance.



Jeffrey Casher

Structured questions

[Sales@Bright Path]

Hi Joel:

1. If you click in a text line, it goes blank because the text lines are not
attached to structure.  Rather than using a text line or text frame, you
should keep everything connected in the structure.  That means adding
elements when more content is needed.  If you can clarify which of the Frame
8 templates you are using, I'd be happy to help you figure out the structure
and which element will produce the caption.  Our team made the templates so
I am familiar with most of the structures.

2. FrameMaker allows lines to break, unless you use the "hard space" you
mention below.  I don't know of a control.  You can control text spacing and
things like that to manually modify the text flow.

Good luck,

Kay


Kay Whatley
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Bright Path Solutions
1.919.244.8559
Website: http://www.brightpathsolutions.com
Conferences website: http://conf.travelthepath.com
SKYPE = kayper








-Original Message-
From: Joel
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 5:12 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Structured questions

Preface: I am trying to learn Structured Frame, XML and DITA - it's all new
to me.

1. I am using one of Frame 8's structured templates, and I inserted a
graphic. Now I want to add a caption, and I tried using a text line. the
Structure View window goes blank when I click on the text line. Do I need to
create an element to reflect this text line?

2. A general, dumb Frame question: How do I ensure that lines aren't
breaking, other than  + Spacebar between words?

Thanks,

JW

Structured Frame Primer

[Neeraj Jain]

Hi Steve,

I want to learn structured FM. Can you please provide a specific link within 
http://www.scriptorium.com from where I can study the same? I browsed 
scriptorium but found paid resources only. Please help me in learning.  

Smile makes you more close; try it
Thanks and Regards, 
N. Jain 
Writer 
91-9810676241
http://www.neerajjain8.com | http://neerajjain8.rediffiland.com





- Original Message 
From: Steve Rickaby 
To: Alison Carrico ; framers at 
frameusers.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2007 8:37:40 PM
Subject: Re: Structured Frame Primer

At 10:00 -0500 3/10/07, Alison Carrico wrote:

>Can anyone recommend a good primer for learning Structured Frame?  &/or
>a good reference for more advanced users? Is the User Manual reasonably
>good?

I used the Scriptorium Press material. Worked for me.



The Adoobe Struct App online guide is complete, but dense, and lacks a 
beginner's primer and overview, which makes it rather unfriendly. It's 
basically a reference guide.

-- 
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Structured questions

[Lester C. Smalley]

As I don't which template you're trying to use and I don't have FM 8
installed, the details may vary slightly.

Regardless, most structured designs provide for some sort of title or
caption for a Figure, which usually is a composite element containing
both an element for the text and a second element for the image itself.

You can use the element catalog to help guide you - you would set the
options to show you elements valid for working start to finish or maybe
even just allowed anywhere in the parent element.  Then, when you click
inside the figure element, you should see the choices such as "Title"
and "Graphic" as the only options (or at least only ones with heavy
checkmarks).

A text line is a simple FrameMaker graphic object placed on top of the
page or image in the drawing order, not an element and thus why the
structure view goes blank - you no longer are really working with
structure when you try to add it.

Regarding lines breaking, I presume you mean breaking awkwardly.  But
unless you are writing exclusively in very short sentences you will have
breaks you don't necessarily like in the structured text.

Settings for the paragraph properties can help, such as changing
justification settings to 'left' instead of 'justified', changing the
minimum and maximum word spacing, allowing hyphenation, and so forth.
Depending on the template, these may be modified via the paragraph
designer or explicitly specified in the EDD.  

You could define a 'break' element, set it as a text range and insert a
prefix (or suffix) of \n - a soft return or newline character - that you
insert where you wish instead of using the non-breaking spaces to keep
words together.  

On Tuesday, October 02, 2007 05:12 PM Joel [eleysium at gmail.com] wrote:

| Preface: I am trying to learn Structured Frame, XML and DITA 
| - it's all new | to me.
| 
| 1. I am using one of Frame 8's structured templates, and I inserted
| a graphic. Now I want to add a caption, and I tried using a text
| line. the Structure View window goes blank when I click on the text 
| line. Do I need to create an element to reflect this text line?
| 
| 2. A general, dumb Frame question: How do I ensure that lines aren't
| breaking, other than  + Spacebar between words?
| 
| Thanks,
| 
| JW

- Lester 
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Structured Frame Primer

[Alison Carrico]

Can anyone recommend a good primer for learning Structured Frame?  &/or
a good reference for more advanced users? Is the User Manual reasonably
good?



Thanks in advance,

Alison 

Adobe Acrobat 8

[Alison Carrico]

I have had the problem in both Acrobat 7 & 8, although it generally
happens only with a particular client's docs that use Akzidenz Grotesk
fonts.  I can't remember for certain, but I'm pretty sure I've seen it
with Frame 8 -- I think it's an Acrobat issue more than a Frame issue,
but what do I know?  Deleting the fntcache.dat file & restarting (with
or without cursing under my breath) is the only reliable fix I've found.

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.com] On Behalf Of Yves Barbion
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:16 AM
To: Alan Houser
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Robert K Lane; Danny G Green
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat 8

I still have the same problem from time to time, but I use Acrobat 6, so

it's not really an Acrobat 8 problem.

Sometimes, FrameMaker crashes when generating the PDF (using Save as 
PDF). And, like Alan said, deleting the fntcache.dat and restarting 
Windows resolves the problem:

   1. In Frame, Save as PDF: FM crashes.
   2. Restart Windows and try again: same result, FM crashes.
   3. Delete fntcache.dat and restart Windows.
   4. FM: Save as PDF. Everything's fine now.


Yves Barbion 
Documentation Architect
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor


Scripto bvba
Asselsstraat 65
9031 Gent
Belgium
T: +32 494 12 01 89
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skype: yves.barbion




Alan Houser wrote:
> Yes. I find that I need to regularly (every few days) delete 
> c:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and restart to avoid FrameMaker 
> crashes and text drop-outs when generating PDF. (Windows XP, FM7.2 and

> 8, Acrobat 8 and Acrobat 3D).
>
> -Alan
>
> Danny G Green wrote:
>> In June there was a posting about Acrobat 8 dropping pages, text, and

>> words when produced from FrameMaker 7.2.  Is anyone still having 
>> problems?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Danny Green
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Frame in Windows emulation

[Graeme Worth]

I am considering moving from a Windows to a Linux OS and running Framemaker 
V6 in a Windows emulation. I am amware of 1 person who has successfully run 
FM 7 under Ubuntu in this manner, and I'd welcome any further observations 
or comments anyone may have before I commit to this path - eg is Wine 
better or worse than VMWare, are particular flavours of Linux better or 
worse for this sort of thing, etc

thanks
Graeme

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RE: Structured questions

[Sales at Bright Path]

Hi Joel:

1. If you click in a text line, it goes blank because the text lines are not
attached to structure.  Rather than using a text line or text frame, you
should keep everything connected in the structure.  That means adding
elements when more content is needed.  If you can clarify which of the Frame
8 templates you are using, I'd be happy to help you figure out the structure
and which element will produce the caption.  Our team made the templates so
I am familiar with most of the structures.

2. FrameMaker allows lines to break, unless you use the "hard space" you
mention below.  I don't know of a control.  You can control text spacing and
things like that to manually modify the text flow.

Good luck,

Kay


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-Original Message-
From: Joel
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 5:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Structured questions

Preface: I am trying to learn Structured Frame, XML and DITA - it's all new
to me.

1. I am using one of Frame 8's structured templates, and I inserted a
graphic. Now I want to add a caption, and I tried using a text line. the
Structure View window goes blank when I click on the text line. Do I need to
create an element to reflect this text line?

2. A general, dumb Frame question: How do I ensure that lines aren't
breaking, other than  + Spacebar between words?

Thanks,

JW

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Re: Structured Frame Primer

[Steve Rickaby]

At 10:00 -0500 3/10/07, Alison Carrico wrote:

>Can anyone recommend a good primer for learning Structured Frame?  &/or
>a good reference for more advanced users? Is the User Manual reasonably
>good?

I used the Scriptorium Press material. Worked for me.



The Adoobe Struct App online guide is complete, but dense, and lacks a 
beginner's primer and overview, which makes it rather unfriendly. It's 
basically a reference guide.

-- 
Steve
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Structured Frame Primer

[Alison Carrico]

Can anyone recommend a good primer for learning Structured Frame?  &/or
a good reference for more advanced users? Is the User Manual reasonably
good?

 

Thanks in advance,

Alison 

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RE: Structured questions

[Lester C. Smalley]

As I don't which template you're trying to use and I don't have FM 8
installed, the details may vary slightly.

Regardless, most structured designs provide for some sort of title or
caption for a Figure, which usually is a composite element containing
both an element for the text and a second element for the image itself.

You can use the element catalog to help guide you - you would set the
options to show you elements valid for working start to finish or maybe
even just allowed anywhere in the parent element.  Then, when you click
inside the figure element, you should see the choices such as "Title"
and "Graphic" as the only options (or at least only ones with heavy
checkmarks).

A text line is a simple FrameMaker graphic object placed on top of the
page or image in the drawing order, not an element and thus why the
structure view goes blank - you no longer are really working with
structure when you try to add it.

Regarding lines breaking, I presume you mean breaking awkwardly.  But
unless you are writing exclusively in very short sentences you will have
breaks you don't necessarily like in the structured text.

Settings for the paragraph properties can help, such as changing
justification settings to 'left' instead of 'justified', changing the
minimum and maximum word spacing, allowing hyphenation, and so forth.
Depending on the template, these may be modified via the paragraph
designer or explicitly specified in the EDD.  

You could define a 'break' element, set it as a text range and insert a
prefix (or suffix) of \n - a soft return or newline character - that you
insert where you wish instead of using the non-breaking spaces to keep
words together.  
 
On Tuesday, October 02, 2007 05:12 PM Joel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

| Preface: I am trying to learn Structured Frame, XML and DITA 
| - it's all new | to me.
| 
| 1. I am using one of Frame 8's structured templates, and I inserted
| a graphic. Now I want to add a caption, and I tried using a text
| line. the Structure View window goes blank when I click on the text 
| line. Do I need to create an element to reflect this text line?
| 
| 2. A general, dumb Frame question: How do I ensure that lines aren't
| breaking, other than  + Spacebar between words?
| 
| Thanks,
| 
| JW

- Lester 
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RE: Adobe Acrobat 8

[Alison Carrico]

I have had the problem in both Acrobat 7 & 8, although it generally
happens only with a particular client's docs that use Akzidenz Grotesk
fonts.  I can't remember for certain, but I'm pretty sure I've seen it
with Frame 8 -- I think it's an Acrobat issue more than a Frame issue,
but what do I know?  Deleting the fntcache.dat file & restarting (with
or without cursing under my breath) is the only reliable fix I've found.

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.com] On Behalf Of Yves Barbion
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:16 AM
To: Alan Houser
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Robert K Lane; Danny G Green
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat 8

I still have the same problem from time to time, but I use Acrobat 6, so

it's not really an Acrobat 8 problem.

Sometimes, FrameMaker crashes when generating the PDF (using Save as 
PDF). And, like Alan said, deleting the fntcache.dat and restarting 
Windows resolves the problem:

   1. In Frame, Save as PDF: FM crashes.
   2. Restart Windows and try again: same result, FM crashes.
   3. Delete fntcache.dat and restart Windows.
   4. FM: Save as PDF. Everything's fine now.


Yves Barbion 
Documentation Architect
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor


Scripto bvba
Asselsstraat 65
9031 Gent
Belgium
T: +32 494 12 01 89
F: +32 9 366 50 23
BTW (VAT) BE 0886.192.394
skype: yves.barbion




Alan Houser wrote:
> Yes. I find that I need to regularly (every few days) delete 
> c:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and restart to avoid FrameMaker 
> crashes and text drop-outs when generating PDF. (Windows XP, FM7.2 and

> 8, Acrobat 8 and Acrobat 3D).
>
> -Alan
>
> Danny G Green wrote:
>> In June there was a posting about Acrobat 8 dropping pages, text, and

>> words when produced from FrameMaker 7.2.  Is anyone still having 
>> problems?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Danny Green
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