importing/structuring docx into FrameMaker?
Hi Jacob, well, it depends on a couple of things: * How do you wish to structure your documents? * What information model (DTD/Schema) do you wish to use? * Do you want to keep structured FM files or do you need XML? My experience is that "Structure current document" using a conversion table does work, but I use it for relatively simple documents. When I need to (re)structure documents to DITA, I use MIF2Go instead. Kind regards Yves Barbion Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor Scripto Belgium Jakob Fix wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if anybody is using the "Structure current document" > functionality in FM8 to structure imported Office 2007 documents, and > whether this method can be recommended, or whether there are > shortcomings that one should know about before going down this route. > >
FrameMaker DITA and CMS
I'm currently evaluating a variety of tools and solutions with an aim to moving the team to some form of single source process. We have looked at, and like, DITA, and will be using that as the basis for our content. However trying to find an end-to-end solution is proving hard, or perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places? My belief is we need a database (CMS) to hold the content (as XML chunks), an editing application (FrameMaker?) as well as a set of rules to transform the XML into something editable (or we get an XML editor like... XMetal?). We then need publishing engines to convert the XML to PDF, JavaHelp, HTML etc. Ohh and we need to maintain three different versions (releases) of the documentation set. The DITA side I've done a lot of research on, we have the beginnings of an Information Model and have planned out how we will specialise the schema for our own use. It's the tooling side that seems wide open. I've looked at the Open Toolkit but (and this may be a strange admission for a TECHNICAL writer) it's a little heavy on the tech side. So, in short, I'm looking for any/all recommendations in this area. If you have a DITA based publishing system in place, with version control, I'd love to hear about it! Gordon P.S. This is not an excuse for vendors to cold call me! This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com
FrameMaker DITA and CMS
DITA isn't a publishing standard, it's a content structure standard I thought. Perhaps I need to state my question more clearly. Does anyone have an example of all the applications (names!) used in an end to end publishing system that is based on XML single source (DITA is a bit of a red herring I guess, it's a standard, not an application). I know FrameMaker 8 supports DITA, and I'll be evaluating that soon (I presume it handles the transformation from XML to 'FM editable' and back?). But what CMS are people using? And what publishing engines? Webworks? Or something from the DITA Open Toolkit? I'm wary of getting sucked into a proprietary path, and also of having an overly complex build system (ultimately we want to publish on a schedule as well as instantly to a website). I've visited and read up on a lot of vendor propositions, and I'm aware that consultancies will have favoured solutions, so I'm asking the Framers for THEIR recommendations if they have such a system in place. Gordon -Original Message- From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:s...@actcom.com] Sent: 12 March 2008 09:08 To: Gordon McLean Subject: Re: FrameMaker DITA and CMS You need an XML editor such as Xmetal or Structured Frame. The CMS helps for version control and knowing which chinks are used in which books. This is useful information when considering editing a chunk. DITA is a popular XML publishing standard, although there are others. There is a plug-in for structured Frame to have DITA support in Frame, and in Frame 8 it is built in. HTH Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Gordon McLean wrote: > I'm currently evaluating a variety of tools and solutions with an aim to > moving the team to some form of single source process. > > We have looked at, and like, DITA, and will be using that as the basis for > our content. > > However trying to find an end-to-end solution is proving hard, or perhaps > I'm looking in the wrong places? > > My belief is we need a database (CMS) to hold the content (as XML chunks), > an editing application (FrameMaker?) as well as a set of rules to transform > the XML into something editable (or we get an XML editor like... XMetal?). > We then need publishing engines to convert the XML to PDF, JavaHelp, HTML > etc. > > Ohh and we need to maintain three different versions (releases) of the > documentation set. > > The DITA side I've done a lot of research on, we have the beginnings of an > Information Model and have planned out how we will specialise the schema for > our own use. > > It's the tooling side that seems wide open. I've looked at the Open Toolkit > but (and this may be a strange admission for a TECHNICAL writer) it's a > little heavy on the tech side. > > So, in short, I'm looking for any/all recommendations in this area. If you > have a DITA based publishing system in place, with version control, I'd love > to hear about it! > > Gordon > > P.S. This is not an excuse for vendors to cold call me! > > > This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the > addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via > telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments > are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility > whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented > within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation > as a whole. > > Graham Technology plc > Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 > Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH > > http://www.grahamtechnology.com > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as sbw at actcom.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sbw%40actcom.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content,
FrameMaker DITA and CMS
Hi Gordon, you may want to post your questions in the dita-users and/or framemaker-dita Yahoo groups. You'll get more answers there: * http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dita-users/ * http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/ I run a consultancy, specializing in DITA-based technical writing, but I am also a long-time "Framer", so I think I can give you a couple of recommendations. This is what I'm currently using: * *Authoring*: XMetal 5 and/or FrameMaker 8 with the DITA-FMx plug-in (http://www.leximation.com/dita-fmx/) * *Publishing*: FrameMaker to PDF and the DITA Open Toolkit to xhtml, EclipseHelp and chm. I use chm2web Pro to convert the chm to webhelp (simple, fast and inexpensive). WebWorks ePublisher is the only help authoring tool (HAT) I know so far which accepts a ditamap as input. I have done some quick tests and it looks promising, but I need to do some further testing here. * *Managing DITA content*: Our technical writers use the CMS of the customers, so we don't have a CMS (yet). You may want to check out this site: http://dita.xml.org/products. Kind regards Yves Barbion Managing Director Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor Scripto Belgium Gordon McLean wrote: > DITA isn't a publishing standard, it's a content structure standard I > thought. > > Perhaps I need to state my question more clearly. > > Does anyone have an example of all the applications (names!) used in an end > to end publishing system that is based on XML single source (DITA is a bit > of a red herring I guess, it's a standard, not an application). > > I know FrameMaker 8 supports DITA, and I'll be evaluating that soon (I > presume it handles the transformation from XML to 'FM editable' and back?). > But what CMS are people using? And what publishing engines? Webworks? Or > something from the DITA Open Toolkit? > > I'm wary of getting sucked into a proprietary path, and also of having an > overly complex build system (ultimately we want to publish on a schedule as > well as instantly to a website). I've visited and read up on a lot of vendor > propositions, and I'm aware that consultancies will have favoured solutions, > so I'm asking the Framers for THEIR recommendations if they have such a > system in place. > > Gordon > > -Original Message- > From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:sbw at actcom.com] > Sent: 12 March 2008 09:08 > To: Gordon McLean > Subject: Re: FrameMaker DITA and CMS > > You need an XML editor such as Xmetal or Structured Frame. The CMS helps for > version control and knowing which chinks are used in which books. > This is useful information when considering editing a chunk. DITA is a > popular XML publishing standard, although there are others. There is a > plug-in for structured Frame to have DITA support in Frame, and in Frame > 8 it is built in. > > HTH > > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > > > > Gordon McLean wrote: > >> I'm currently evaluating a variety of tools and solutions with an aim to >> moving the team to some form of single source process. >> >> We have looked at, and like, DITA, and will be using that as the basis for >> our content. >> >> However trying to find an end-to-end solution is proving hard, or perhaps >> I'm looking in the wrong places? >> >> My belief is we need a database (CMS) to hold the content (as XML chunks), >> an editing application (FrameMaker?) as well as a set of rules to >> > transform > >> the XML into something editable (or we get an XML editor like... XMetal?). >> We then need publishing engines to convert the XML to PDF, JavaHelp, HTML >> etc. >> >> Ohh and we need to maintain three different versions (releases) of the >> documentation set. >> >> The DITA side I've done a lot of research on, we have the beginnings of an >> Information Model and have planned out how we will specialise the schema >> > for > >> our own use. >> >> It's the tooling side that seems wide open. I've looked at the Open >> > Toolkit > >> but (and this may be a strange admission for a TECHNICAL writer) it's a >> little heavy on the tech side. >> >> So, in short, I'm looking for any/all recommendations in this area. If you >> have a DITA based publishing system in place, with version control, I'd >> > love > >> to hear about it! >> >> Gordon >> >> P.S. This is not an excuse for vendors to cold call me! >> >> >> > > > >> This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is >> > intended solely for the > >> addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove >> > it and inform us via > >> telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and >> > attachments > >> are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any >> > responsibility >
importing/structuring docx into FrameMaker?
Hi Jacob, I have used the table mapping method to migrate unstructured content into structured FrameMaker, though this method does have limitations. It works well if your original documents are consistently formatted throughout. Once the migration is complete, you still have some cleanup work to do in terms of defining the hierarchical relationships between elements in your final, structured document. I have had to migrate literally thousands of pages of legacy content to structured FrameMaker, and consequently I developed an alternate approach. I wrote a wizard in the FrameScript language that reads in your EDD and then allows you to interactively structure your content. The wizard positions your source and destination documents side-by-side on the screen, and advances through your source document one paragraph at a time. Using the wizard, you can select from a list of valid elements to structure each paragraph. This approach allows you to copy and structure your content at the same time. The wizard migrates all referenced graphics, FrameMaker graphic objects, and index markers present in the original document. More information about this approach is available on my web site at http://www.golehtek.com. I plan on offering a freely-available version of this wizard for download in the near future. Meanwhile, if you are interested in using the wizard, contact me off list and I will send it to you. Note that you will need FrameScript to run the wizard. If you don?t already have FrameScript, a trial version is available on the Finite Matters Limited web site at http://www.framescript.com. Best regards, Martin Martin R. Smith President: GolehTek, LLC martin.smith at golehtek.com 703-889-0845
PDFs as graphics and graphics out of SolidWorks
I do this frequently. Art has most of the steps. Before I create the PDF, I use the SolidWorks Viewer to position the object exactly as I want it, not how a CAD operator does. I turn on Perspective (for some reason, engineers do not understand the concept of perspective). I then create the PDF and open it in Illustrator. There, I can change line weights and edit out things that I do not need to show. Then import into FM as an eps file. Tim Lewis Lewis Technical Communications, Inc. Tech.writer at insightbb.com www.lewiscomms.com > Art Campbell said: > > I just ended a year-long gig that included this, and the workflow we > developed was: > 1. Get the free Solidworks viewer application. (There's a free > explorer tool that's also useful.) > 2. From the Viewer, print the Solidworks file to an Acrobat printer > instance to create a PDF using the appropriate job options (high > quality print, press quality) . > 3. When the PDF opens in Acrobat, optimize the file, but go easy on > the compression and downsampling. This is the key task to reduce the > file size & bloat. I don't think it would work as well on a PDF > produced directly from > 4. Import into FM.
Acrobat PDF Message
Danny G Green wrote: > I have been producing PDF files from FrameMaker 7 for some > time and have just recently experienced this problem. After > I produce a pdf file I will clean it up by deleting some > blank pages within the document. When I delete a page I get > this message "There was a problem reading this document > (16)". Any advice? Can't help with the Acrobat message. (Does it prevent you from deleting the page or have any other consequence, or is it merely annoying?) But why are you creating PDFs with blank pages that need deleting? Do you have disconnected pages or empty pages that use custom master pages at the end of some of your FM files? Do you need help with FM's pagination settings? The correct place to fix this is in FM. Then you won't have to worry about that Acrobat error message. :-) Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Table of contents question
Hi everybody, I have a problem with my table of contents in a structured FM application. It seems I cannot make my authors stick to writing short headings in their documents. The result is that when we create TOCs some headings take up more than one line in the TOC. Is there any method, (short of reverting to framescript or other code solutions) to make sure that my long headings in the TOC does not look like this: 1 Heading 1 .. 1 1.1 heading 2 .. 1 1.2 This is a long heading that does not fit in on a single line .. 1 1.3 Another heading 2 2 For the heading 1.2 above I want the first line to have a right indent long enough to ensure that the line breaks not further from the edge than where the leader stops. Is this possible with FM. I am used to working with FOSI formats in EPIC and this would not cause me any problem there. I am sure this problem has been discussed before in Framers but I cannot find any discussions on the issue in my frameusers archives. Any ideas on the subject Thanks ?ke * Posts can be sent to the list or other email at Akevon.Schantz at sorman.com Thanks!
Acrobat PDF Message
You wrote: < When I delete a page I get this message "There was a problem reading this document (16)". Any advice? > What tool do you use for deleting PDF pages? Some older Adobe Acrobat versions actually had a problem with printing and/or saving edited PDF content when certain rare conditions happened regarding fonts. Best regards Jacob Sch?ffer | Chief Developer Paradis All? 22, Raml?se DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark Phone: +45 4439 4400 Web: www.grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] P? vegne af > Danny G Green > Sendt: 11. marts 2008 15:57 > Til: FrameList > Emne: Acrobat PDF Message > > > All, > > I have been producing PDF files from FrameMaker 7 for some > time and have > just recently experienced this problem. After I produce a pdf file I > will clean it up by deleting some blank pages within the > document. When > I delete a page I get this message "There was a problem reading this > document (16)". Any advice? > > Thanks > > Danny Green >
Esc m p
I have a large quantity of anchored frames that are configured every different which-way. I am using Esc m p to shrinkwrap the frames, but this defaults to At Insertion Point. I then must select the dropdown and config the frame to Below Current Line/Center/no cropping/no floating. This is a lot of keyboard-to-mouse-to-keyboard work. Question: Is there a shrinkwrap keyboard shortcut that places the frame Below Current Line. If so, what? If not, can I mod the maker.ini to change the default for Esc m p? If so, how? Thanks...Kelly. "Short words are better. Old words, when short, are best." Churchill
Esc m p
A known bug (feature?) in FrameMaker is that if you use the Esc-m-p Shrinkwrap command, it changes the anchor of the graphic from whatever it was to At Insertion Point. A smart Frame user wrote a small FDK plugin that preserves the settings for an anchored frame when shrink wrapping. I received permission from the developer to post the utility. It's at: http://www.martinek.us/shrinkwrap.html -Carla -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McDaniel Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:19 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Esc m p I have a large quantity of anchored frames that are configured every different which-way. I am using Esc m p to shrinkwrap the frames, but this defaults to At Insertion Point. I then must select the dropdown and config the frame to Below Current Line/Center/no cropping/no floating. This is a lot of keyboard-to-mouse-to-keyboard work. Question: Is there a shrinkwrap keyboard shortcut that places the frame Below Current Line. If so, what? If not, can I mod the maker.ini to change the default for Esc m p? If so, how? Thanks...Kelly. "Short words are better. Old words, when short, are best." Churchill ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as cmartinek at zebra.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/cmartinek%40zebra.co m Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email.
Esc m p
> -Original Message- > From: Martinek, Carla [mailto:CMartinek at zebra.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:23 AM > To: Kelly McDaniel; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Esc m p > > A known bug (feature?) in FrameMaker is that if you use the Esc-m-p > Shrinkwrap command, it changes the anchor of the graphic from whatever > it was to At Insertion Point. [Kelly] But that's not a bug, it's a feature...really. It's coded and documented. > > A smart Frame user wrote a small FDK plugin that preserves the settings > for an anchored frame when shrink wrapping. I received permission from > the developer to post the utility. It's at: > > http://www.martinek.us/shrinkwrap.html [Kelly] Downloaded, installed in FM8, and using it! Thank you, thank you!...K. > > -Carla > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kelly > McDaniel > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:19 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Esc m p > > > I have a large quantity of anchored frames that are configured every > different which-way. I am using Esc m p to shrinkwrap the frames, but > this defaults to At Insertion Point. I then must select the dropdown and > config the frame to Below Current Line/Center/no cropping/no floating. > This is a lot of keyboard-to-mouse-to-keyboard work. > Question: Is there a shrinkwrap keyboard shortcut that places the frame > Below Current Line. If so, what? > If not, can I mod the maker.ini to change the default for Esc m p? If > so, how? > > Thanks...Kelly. > > "Short words are better. Old words, when short, are best." Churchill > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as cmartinek at zebra.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/cmartinek%40zebra.co > m > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > - CONFIDENTIAL- > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may > also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you > may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this > email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and > then delete this email.
Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273)
This could end up being an issue for my company. Do you know if it happens with v7 MIFs when opened with v8? -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Broberg, Mats Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 3:47 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273) Jeremy, Thanks, good to hear you could replicate the behavior on your side. Now we definitely can remove the word "Possible" from the topic title... I will talk to our vendors and see if they can use this workaround. In the meantime, I hope that the men and women at Adobe understands how serious this bug is and will provide a patch as soon as possible. Thanks for the test work you did, Jeremy! Best regards, Mats Broberg www.flirthermography.com From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com] Sent: Sun 2008-03-09 05:53 To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Cc: Broberg, Mats Subject: Re: Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273) On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 16:24:48 +0100, "Broberg, Mats" wrote: >Concise problem statement: >Opening edited (translated) MIF files in FrameMaker 8 causes some >of the extended characters disappear. Text containing extended >characters for different languages are missing characters in >FrameMaker, although all characters are present in the MIF file. >The missing characters follow no particular pattern, most of the >time all characters are there. We can confirm this bug in Frame 8.0p273. In your test case, the last UTF-8 character was dropped; the others were kept. We investigated a bit further and may have a workaround for you. We noticed the string content was fairly long, at 214 bytes (counting the five UTF-8 instances as two bytes each). While that doesn't exceed the 254-byte limit, we thought it would be worth examining. When we cut the string into three ParaLines as Frame would, where the first two were about 100 bytes each, all characters remained. We understand that a TM tool is generating the MIF. Is there a way to limit the maximum line length it allows in a single to, say, 128? The length doesn't really matter to Frame, since the line breaks are reset anyway upon loading the MIF. HTH! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as acarrico at adamsglobalization.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/acarrico%40adamsglob alization.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame has stopped sorting table content
Esteemed colleagues, Frame has stopped sorting table content. No warning, No weeping and gnashing of teeth. It just stopped. I KNOW it's something that I have done, I just don't know what. The sort command I disabled on the Table menu. Can anyone help? TIA. Tom Scalise Manager, Information Development Cross Match Technologies, Inc 561-622-5416 thomas.scalise at crossmatch.com "I've been told one should have a goal. Mine is to live forever. So far, so good." Mir ist erz?hlt worden, dass jeder ein Ziel haben sollte. Meins ist, ewig zu leben. So weit, so gut. This e-mail message from Cross Match Technologies, Inc. is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail by accident, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail and all copies of it.
Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273)
Hi Alison, No, I am only familiar with a MIF8/FM8 workflow in this translation case. Perhaps Jeremy knows? Best regards, Mats Broberg From: Alison Carrico [mailto:acarr...@adamsglobalization.com] Sent: Wed 2008-03-12 17:45 To: Broberg, Mats; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273) This could end up being an issue for my company. Do you know if it happens with v7 MIFs when opened with v8? -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Broberg, Mats Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 3:47 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273) Jeremy, Thanks, good to hear you could replicate the behavior on your side. Now we definitely can remove the word "Possible" from the topic title... I will talk to our vendors and see if they can use this workaround. In the meantime, I hope that the men and women at Adobe understands how serious this bug is and will provide a patch as soon as possible. Thanks for the test work you did, Jeremy! Best regards, Mats Broberg www.flirthermography.com From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com] Sent: Sun 2008-03-09 05:53 To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Cc: Broberg, Mats Subject: Re: Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273) On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 16:24:48 +0100, "Broberg, Mats" wrote: >Concise problem statement: >Opening edited (translated) MIF files in FrameMaker 8 causes some >of the extended characters disappear. Text containing extended >characters for different languages are missing characters in >FrameMaker, although all characters are present in the MIF file. >The missing characters follow no particular pattern, most of the >time all characters are there. We can confirm this bug in Frame 8.0p273. In your test case, the last UTF-8 character was dropped; the others were kept. We investigated a bit further and may have a workaround for you. We noticed the string content was fairly long, at 214 bytes (counting the five UTF-8 instances as two bytes each). While that doesn't exceed the 254-byte limit, we thought it would be worth examining. When we cut the string into three ParaLines as Frame would, where the first two were about 100 bytes each, all characters remained. We understand that a TM tool is generating the MIF. Is there a way to limit the maximum line length it allows in a single to, say, 128? The length doesn't really matter to Frame, since the line breaks are reset anyway upon loading the MIF. HTH! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as acarrico at adamsglobalization.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/acarrico%40adamsglob alization.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273)
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:45:45 -0500, "Alison Carrico" wrote: >This could end up being an issue for my company. Do you know if it >happens with v7 MIFs when opened with v8? Since the bug specifically affects UTF-8 sequences, and those are not used in Frame 7 MIF, it seems unlikely. -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/
Trouble splitting a chapter into two files using FrameMaker....
Thanks everyone who replied!!! This solution -- plus looking at the doc at 400 percent magnification -- did the trick. After everyone validated the right way to do this, I took a closer look at the blank pages at the beginning of the second file. The second file was supposed to begin with a tag that starts at the top of the page. Yeah, it started at the top of the page, but prior to that page there were multiple blank pages. I finally found a teeny tiny cross-reference marker stranded at the very beginning of the chapter. After I deleted it, voila! the chapter paginated correctly! Thanks again Susan On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote: > Susan, > > I'm assuming that from the book file you have right clicked on each > of the chapter files: > 1. In the first chapter file you have set the pagination to delete > empty pages; and, > 2. in the second file you have set the first page to "next available". > > Cheers > Alan > > On 7/03/2008, at 9:54 AM, Fred Ridder wrote: > > > > > Susan Herrin wrote: > > > >> I have a chapter that is so large that it is causing FrameMaker to > >> crash > >> whenever I do an update. > >> > >> I've spit the chapter into two files, and so at least frame isn't > >> crashing > >> at the moment > >> > >> But I'm having problems with pagination and empty pages being > >> inserted at > >> the point where the chapter jumps from one file to the next. Anyone > >> have > >> expertise to share about this problem? > > -- > Alan Litchfield MBus(Hons), MNZCS > AlphaByte > PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140 > > > >
cross references in topics used as text insets
Using FrameMaker 8 (unstructured). No FrameScript. No content-management system. Hoping to realize some efficiencies through the reuse of content, we are considering how to disassemble content in legacy documents into separate topics that will be inserted as needed into container documents. There will be three kinds of cross references in these documents: Topic to Topic, Topic to Container, and Container to Topic. We will want to set up XREFs to heading numbers, table numbers, figure numbers, and, probably, page numbers, all of which use a two-level (for example, "Figure 1-1. A Picture") format. In addition, all graphics are imported by reference into the individual topic documents. The deliverables will be PDFs with (we hope) working links. What is the best practice for achieving this using unstructured FrameMaker? Will moving to structured FrameMaker make this effort any easier? On 3 March, Rene Stephenson wrote, "the sure-fire way to handle xrefs in a text inset is actually by using hypertext links rather than xrefs." One challenge I have with this is in creating the GOTOLINK spot. For example, we currently identify graphics with the chapnum and the figure number followed by a text label. Is the best way to create a hypertext link to insert the XREF to the figure name (no numerals--I'm guessing that they won't necessarily update properly in the container doc), convert that XREF to text, mark the converted XREF with a character tag, and then insert the GOTOLINK command? (Whew! I can almost hear the gnashing of teeth.) I realize that this is a complex issue (even putting aside the issue of whether it is safer to put headings... also numbered...in the topics or in the container docs). Can anyone can recommend resources for resolving this issue? Doug Eaton
Re: importing/structuring docx into FrameMaker?
Hi Jacob, well, it depends on a couple of things: * How do you wish to structure your documents? * What information model (DTD/Schema) do you wish to use? * Do you want to keep structured FM files or do you need XML? My experience is that "Structure current document" using a conversion table does work, but I use it for relatively simple documents. When I need to (re)structure documents to DITA, I use MIF2Go instead. Kind regards Yves Barbion Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor Scripto Belgium Jakob Fix wrote: > Hello, > > I was wondering if anybody is using the "Structure current document" > functionality in FM8 to structure imported Office 2007 documents, and > whether this method can be recommended, or whether there are > shortcomings that one should know about before going down this route. > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker DITA and CMS
I'm currently evaluating a variety of tools and solutions with an aim to moving the team to some form of single source process. We have looked at, and like, DITA, and will be using that as the basis for our content. However trying to find an end-to-end solution is proving hard, or perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places? My belief is we need a database (CMS) to hold the content (as XML chunks), an editing application (FrameMaker?) as well as a set of rules to transform the XML into something editable (or we get an XML editor like... XMetal?). We then need publishing engines to convert the XML to PDF, JavaHelp, HTML etc. Ohh and we need to maintain three different versions (releases) of the documentation set. The DITA side I've done a lot of research on, we have the beginnings of an Information Model and have planned out how we will specialise the schema for our own use. It's the tooling side that seems wide open. I've looked at the Open Toolkit but (and this may be a strange admission for a TECHNICAL writer) it's a little heavy on the tech side. So, in short, I'm looking for any/all recommendations in this area. If you have a DITA based publishing system in place, with version control, I'd love to hear about it! Gordon P.S. This is not an excuse for vendors to cold call me! This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker DITA and CMS
DITA isn't a publishing standard, it's a content structure standard I thought. Perhaps I need to state my question more clearly. Does anyone have an example of all the applications (names!) used in an end to end publishing system that is based on XML single source (DITA is a bit of a red herring I guess, it's a standard, not an application). I know FrameMaker 8 supports DITA, and I'll be evaluating that soon (I presume it handles the transformation from XML to 'FM editable' and back?). But what CMS are people using? And what publishing engines? Webworks? Or something from the DITA Open Toolkit? I'm wary of getting sucked into a proprietary path, and also of having an overly complex build system (ultimately we want to publish on a schedule as well as instantly to a website). I've visited and read up on a lot of vendor propositions, and I'm aware that consultancies will have favoured solutions, so I'm asking the Framers for THEIR recommendations if they have such a system in place. Gordon -Original Message- From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 March 2008 09:08 To: Gordon McLean Subject: Re: FrameMaker DITA and CMS You need an XML editor such as Xmetal or Structured Frame. The CMS helps for version control and knowing which chinks are used in which books. This is useful information when considering editing a chunk. DITA is a popular XML publishing standard, although there are others. There is a plug-in for structured Frame to have DITA support in Frame, and in Frame 8 it is built in. HTH Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Gordon McLean wrote: > I'm currently evaluating a variety of tools and solutions with an aim to > moving the team to some form of single source process. > > We have looked at, and like, DITA, and will be using that as the basis for > our content. > > However trying to find an end-to-end solution is proving hard, or perhaps > I'm looking in the wrong places? > > My belief is we need a database (CMS) to hold the content (as XML chunks), > an editing application (FrameMaker?) as well as a set of rules to transform > the XML into something editable (or we get an XML editor like... XMetal?). > We then need publishing engines to convert the XML to PDF, JavaHelp, HTML > etc. > > Ohh and we need to maintain three different versions (releases) of the > documentation set. > > The DITA side I've done a lot of research on, we have the beginnings of an > Information Model and have planned out how we will specialise the schema for > our own use. > > It's the tooling side that seems wide open. I've looked at the Open Toolkit > but (and this may be a strange admission for a TECHNICAL writer) it's a > little heavy on the tech side. > > So, in short, I'm looking for any/all recommendations in this area. If you > have a DITA based publishing system in place, with version control, I'd love > to hear about it! > > Gordon > > P.S. This is not an excuse for vendors to cold call me! > > > This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the > addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via > telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments > are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility > whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented > within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation > as a whole. > > Graham Technology plc > Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 > Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH > > http://www.grahamtechnology.com > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sbw%40actcom.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsib
Re: FrameMaker DITA and CMS
Hi Gordon, you may want to post your questions in the dita-users and/or framemaker-dita Yahoo groups. You'll get more answers there: * http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dita-users/ * http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/ I run a consultancy, specializing in DITA-based technical writing, but I am also a long-time "Framer", so I think I can give you a couple of recommendations. This is what I'm currently using: * *Authoring*: XMetal 5 and/or FrameMaker 8 with the DITA-FMx plug-in (http://www.leximation.com/dita-fmx/) * *Publishing*: FrameMaker to PDF and the DITA Open Toolkit to xhtml, EclipseHelp and chm. I use chm2web Pro to convert the chm to webhelp (simple, fast and inexpensive). WebWorks ePublisher is the only help authoring tool (HAT) I know so far which accepts a ditamap as input. I have done some quick tests and it looks promising, but I need to do some further testing here. * *Managing DITA content*: Our technical writers use the CMS of the customers, so we don't have a CMS (yet). You may want to check out this site: http://dita.xml.org/products. Kind regards Yves Barbion Managing Director Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor Scripto Belgium Gordon McLean wrote: > DITA isn't a publishing standard, it's a content structure standard I > thought. > > Perhaps I need to state my question more clearly. > > Does anyone have an example of all the applications (names!) used in an end > to end publishing system that is based on XML single source (DITA is a bit > of a red herring I guess, it's a standard, not an application). > > I know FrameMaker 8 supports DITA, and I'll be evaluating that soon (I > presume it handles the transformation from XML to 'FM editable' and back?). > But what CMS are people using? And what publishing engines? Webworks? Or > something from the DITA Open Toolkit? > > I'm wary of getting sucked into a proprietary path, and also of having an > overly complex build system (ultimately we want to publish on a schedule as > well as instantly to a website). I've visited and read up on a lot of vendor > propositions, and I'm aware that consultancies will have favoured solutions, > so I'm asking the Framers for THEIR recommendations if they have such a > system in place. > > Gordon > > -Original Message- > From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 March 2008 09:08 > To: Gordon McLean > Subject: Re: FrameMaker DITA and CMS > > You need an XML editor such as Xmetal or Structured Frame. The CMS helps for > version control and knowing which chinks are used in which books. > This is useful information when considering editing a chunk. DITA is a > popular XML publishing standard, although there are others. There is a > plug-in for structured Frame to have DITA support in Frame, and in Frame > 8 it is built in. > > HTH > > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > > > > Gordon McLean wrote: > >> I'm currently evaluating a variety of tools and solutions with an aim to >> moving the team to some form of single source process. >> >> We have looked at, and like, DITA, and will be using that as the basis for >> our content. >> >> However trying to find an end-to-end solution is proving hard, or perhaps >> I'm looking in the wrong places? >> >> My belief is we need a database (CMS) to hold the content (as XML chunks), >> an editing application (FrameMaker?) as well as a set of rules to >> > transform > >> the XML into something editable (or we get an XML editor like... XMetal?). >> We then need publishing engines to convert the XML to PDF, JavaHelp, HTML >> etc. >> >> Ohh and we need to maintain three different versions (releases) of the >> documentation set. >> >> The DITA side I've done a lot of research on, we have the beginnings of an >> Information Model and have planned out how we will specialise the schema >> > for > >> our own use. >> >> It's the tooling side that seems wide open. I've looked at the Open >> > Toolkit > >> but (and this may be a strange admission for a TECHNICAL writer) it's a >> little heavy on the tech side. >> >> So, in short, I'm looking for any/all recommendations in this area. If you >> have a DITA based publishing system in place, with version control, I'd >> > love > >> to hear about it! >> >> Gordon >> >> P.S. This is not an excuse for vendors to cold call me! >> >> >> > > > >> This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is >> > intended solely for the > >> addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove >> > it and inform us via > >> telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and >> > attachments > >> are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any >> > responsibility >
Re: importing/structuring docx into FrameMaker?
Hi Jacob, I have used the table mapping method to migrate unstructured content into structured FrameMaker, though this method does have limitations. It works well if your original documents are consistently formatted throughout. Once the migration is complete, you still have some cleanup work to do in terms of defining the hierarchical relationships between elements in your final, structured document. I have had to migrate literally thousands of pages of legacy content to structured FrameMaker, and consequently I developed an alternate approach. I wrote a wizard in the FrameScript language that reads in your EDD and then allows you to interactively structure your content. The wizard positions your source and destination documents side-by-side on the screen, and advances through your source document one paragraph at a time. Using the wizard, you can select from a list of valid elements to structure each paragraph. This approach allows you to copy and structure your content at the same time. The wizard migrates all referenced graphics, FrameMaker graphic objects, and index markers present in the original document. More information about this approach is available on my web site at http://www.golehtek.com. I plan on offering a freely-available version of this wizard for download in the near future. Meanwhile, if you are interested in using the wizard, contact me off list and I will send it to you. Note that you will need FrameScript to run the wizard. If you don?t already have FrameScript, a trial version is available on the Finite Matters Limited web site at http://www.framescript.com. Best regards, Martin Martin R. Smith President: GolehTek, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] 703-889-0845 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Acrobat PDF Message
All, I have been producing PDF files from FrameMaker 7 for some time and have just recently experienced this problem. After I produce a pdf file I will clean it up by deleting some blank pages within the document. When I delete a page I get this message "There was a problem reading this document (16)". Any advice? Thanks Danny Green ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Updating templates from 7.1
Hello Fellow Frame-Maniacs, Does anyone have any experiences updating pre-7.2 FM templates? We have templates that were created in Frame 6.0 and updated in 7.1. I’ve been told that these templates will not be completely compatible with FM 8.0; issues with generated lists, Master Pages, and variables/building blocks. Supposedly, Adobe made changes to FM beginning with FM 7.2 that affect these areas. Can someone direct me to documentation that explains what changes have been made? Do I have to descend into the depths of Adobe to find some info? ≡ 8^@ Darren J. Butler Senior Publications Specialist Northrop-Grumman Corp [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDFs as graphics and graphics out of SolidWorks
Linda, I have imported many "graphics" from Solid Works. One of the problems with Solid Works drafters is that they love their rendered drawings. If you can use line art they can export from Solid Works non-rendered, hidden lines hidden, iso (or whatever consistent angle you want) pdf files which you can open and manipulate in Adobe Illustrator. Or, you can sit with them until they have exactly what you want and use the tif file at 300 dpi or more. Experiment. Don Rose "Linda G. Gallagher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Framers, FM 7.0 Acrobat 6.0 Win XP I appreciated all the help a couple of weeks ago on text insets and scripting. Now I have new questions related to a new client that is using SolidWorks CAD to create graphics for me to use in FM. So far I've tried importing graphics saved from SolidWorks as .tif at 50 dpi (was the default) and 600 dpi. Neither looked good after I created a PDF from the FM file. I've asked him to save at 150 and 300 dpi, but don't have those yet. My client also sent me a PDF of the graphic. When I imported that into FM and created a PDF, the graphic looked great, but it took 8 minutes to create the .ps file of just the one page with the one graphic and the resulting .ps file was more than 55 MB. I envision having lots of graphics in this document, so I don't think the PDF format is going to work that well. Here are my specific questions. - Is it common when using PDF files for graphics for the writing to .ps process to take so long and for the resulting .ps file to be so huge? - Anyone have experience getting graphics from SolidWorks? I'm told the graphic formats it can produce are .tif, .PDF, .jpg, and .dwg. Thanks for any advice you can offer. ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/roseyinsb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: PDFs as graphics and graphics out of SolidWorks
I do this frequently. Art has most of the steps. Before I create the PDF, I use the SolidWorks Viewer to position the object exactly as I want it, not how a CAD operator does. I turn on Perspective (for some reason, engineers do not understand the concept of perspective). I then create the PDF and open it in Illustrator. There, I can change line weights and edit out things that I do not need to show. Then import into FM as an eps file. Tim Lewis Lewis Technical Communications, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.lewiscomms.com > Art Campbell said: > > I just ended a year-long gig that included this, and the workflow we > developed was: > 1. Get the free Solidworks viewer application. (There's a free > explorer tool that's also useful.) > 2. From the Viewer, print the Solidworks file to an Acrobat printer > instance to create a PDF using the appropriate job options (high > quality print, press quality) . > 3. When the PDF opens in Acrobat, optimize the file, but go easy on > the compression and downsampling. This is the key task to reduce the > file size & bloat. I don't think it would work as well on a PDF > produced directly from > 4. Import into FM. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Acrobat PDF Message
You wrote: < When I delete a page I get this message "There was a problem reading this document (16)". Any advice? > What tool do you use for deleting PDF pages? Some older Adobe Acrobat versions actually had a problem with printing and/or saving edited PDF content when certain rare conditions happened regarding fonts. Best regards Jacob Schäffer | Chief Developer Paradis Allé 22, Ramløse DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark Phone: +45 4439 4400 Web: www.grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af > Danny G Green > Sendt: 11. marts 2008 15:57 > Til: FrameList > Emne: Acrobat PDF Message > > > All, > > I have been producing PDF files from FrameMaker 7 for some > time and have > just recently experienced this problem. After I produce a pdf file I > will clean it up by deleting some blank pages within the > document. When > I delete a page I get this message "There was a problem reading this > document (16)". Any advice? > > Thanks > > Danny Green > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Acrobat PDF Message
Danny G Green wrote: > I have been producing PDF files from FrameMaker 7 for some > time and have just recently experienced this problem. After > I produce a pdf file I will clean it up by deleting some > blank pages within the document. When I delete a page I get > this message "There was a problem reading this document > (16)". Any advice? Can't help with the Acrobat message. (Does it prevent you from deleting the page or have any other consequence, or is it merely annoying?) But why are you creating PDFs with blank pages that need deleting? Do you have disconnected pages or empty pages that use custom master pages at the end of some of your FM files? Do you need help with FM's pagination settings? The correct place to fix this is in FM. Then you won't have to worry about that Acrobat error message. :-) Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Table of contents question
Hi everybody, I have a problem with my table of contents in a structured FM application. It seems I cannot make my authors stick to writing short headings in their documents. The result is that when we create TOCs some headings take up more than one line in the TOC. Is there any method, (short of reverting to framescript or other code solutions) to make sure that my long headings in the TOC does not look like this: 1 Heading 1 .. 1 1.1 heading 2 .. 1 1.2 This is a long heading that does not fit in on a single line .. 1 1.3 Another heading 2 2 For the heading 1.2 above I want the first line to have a right indent long enough to ensure that the line breaks not further from the edge than where the leader stops. Is this possible with FM. I am used to working with FOSI formats in EPIC and this would not cause me any problem there. I am sure this problem has been discussed before in Framers but I cannot find any discussions on the issue in my frameusers archives. Any ideas on the subject Thanks Åke * Posts can be sent to the list or other email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Esc m p
I have a large quantity of anchored frames that are configured every different which-way. I am using Esc m p to shrinkwrap the frames, but this defaults to At Insertion Point. I then must select the dropdown and config the frame to Below Current Line/Center/no cropping/no floating. This is a lot of keyboard-to-mouse-to-keyboard work. Question: Is there a shrinkwrap keyboard shortcut that places the frame Below Current Line. If so, what? If not, can I mod the maker.ini to change the default for Esc m p? If so, how? Thanks...Kelly. "Short words are better. Old words, when short, are best." Churchill ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Esc m p
A known bug (feature?) in FrameMaker is that if you use the Esc-m-p Shrinkwrap command, it changes the anchor of the graphic from whatever it was to At Insertion Point. A smart Frame user wrote a small FDK plugin that preserves the settings for an anchored frame when shrink wrapping. I received permission from the developer to post the utility. It's at: http://www.martinek.us/shrinkwrap.html -Carla -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly McDaniel Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:19 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Esc m p I have a large quantity of anchored frames that are configured every different which-way. I am using Esc m p to shrinkwrap the frames, but this defaults to At Insertion Point. I then must select the dropdown and config the frame to Below Current Line/Center/no cropping/no floating. This is a lot of keyboard-to-mouse-to-keyboard work. Question: Is there a shrinkwrap keyboard shortcut that places the frame Below Current Line. If so, what? If not, can I mod the maker.ini to change the default for Esc m p? If so, how? Thanks...Kelly. "Short words are better. Old words, when short, are best." Churchill ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/cmartinek%40zebra.co m Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Esc m p
> -Original Message- > From: Martinek, Carla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:23 AM > To: Kelly McDaniel; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Esc m p > > A known bug (feature?) in FrameMaker is that if you use the Esc-m-p > Shrinkwrap command, it changes the anchor of the graphic from whatever > it was to At Insertion Point. [Kelly] But that's not a bug, it's a feature...really. It's coded and documented. > > A smart Frame user wrote a small FDK plugin that preserves the settings > for an anchored frame when shrink wrapping. I received permission from > the developer to post the utility. It's at: > > http://www.martinek.us/shrinkwrap.html [Kelly] Downloaded, installed in FM8, and using it! Thank you, thank you!...K. > > -Carla > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly > McDaniel > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:19 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Esc m p > > > I have a large quantity of anchored frames that are configured every > different which-way. I am using Esc m p to shrinkwrap the frames, but > this defaults to At Insertion Point. I then must select the dropdown and > config the frame to Below Current Line/Center/no cropping/no floating. > This is a lot of keyboard-to-mouse-to-keyboard work. > Question: Is there a shrinkwrap keyboard shortcut that places the frame > Below Current Line. If so, what? > If not, can I mod the maker.ini to change the default for Esc m p? If > so, how? > > Thanks...Kelly. > > "Short words are better. Old words, when short, are best." Churchill > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/cmartinek%40zebra.co > m > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > - CONFIDENTIAL- > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may > also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you > may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this > email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and > then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273)
This could end up being an issue for my company. Do you know if it happens with v7 MIFs when opened with v8? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Broberg, Mats Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 3:47 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273) Jeremy, Thanks, good to hear you could replicate the behavior on your side. Now we definitely can remove the word "Possible" from the topic title... I will talk to our vendors and see if they can use this workaround. In the meantime, I hope that the men and women at Adobe understands how serious this bug is and will provide a patch as soon as possible. Thanks for the test work you did, Jeremy! Best regards, Mats Broberg www.flirthermography.com From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 2008-03-09 05:53 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Broberg, Mats Subject: Re: Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273) On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 16:24:48 +0100, "Broberg, Mats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Concise problem statement: >Opening edited (translated) MIF files in FrameMaker 8 causes some >of the extended characters disappear. Text containing extended >characters for different languages are missing characters in >FrameMaker, although all characters are present in the MIF file. >The missing characters follow no particular pattern, most of the >time all characters are there. We can confirm this bug in Frame 8.0p273. In your test case, the last UTF-8 character was dropped; the others were kept. We investigated a bit further and may have a workaround for you. We noticed the string content was fairly long, at 214 bytes (counting the five UTF-8 instances as two bytes each). While that doesn't exceed the 254-byte limit, we thought it would be worth examining. When we cut the string into three ParaLines as Frame would, where the first two were about 100 bytes each, all characters remained. We understand that a TM tool is generating the MIF. Is there a way to limit the maximum line length it allows in a single to, say, 128? The length doesn't really matter to Frame, since the line breaks are reset anyway upon loading the MIF. HTH! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/acarrico%40adamsglob alization.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame has stopped sorting table content
Esteemed colleagues, Frame has stopped sorting table content. No warning, No weeping and gnashing of teeth. It just stopped. I KNOW it's something that I have done, I just don't know what. The sort command I disabled on the Table menu. Can anyone help? TIA. Tom Scalise Manager, Information Development Cross Match Technologies, Inc 561-622-5416 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I've been told one should have a goal. Mine is to live forever. So far, so good." Mir ist erzählt worden, dass jeder ein Ziel haben sollte. Meins ist, ewig zu leben. So weit, so gut. This e-mail message from Cross Match Technologies, Inc. is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail by accident, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail and all copies of it. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273)
Hi Alison, No, I am only familiar with a MIF8/FM8 workflow in this translation case. Perhaps Jeremy knows? Best regards, Mats Broberg From: Alison Carrico [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 2008-03-12 17:45 To: Broberg, Mats; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273) This could end up being an issue for my company. Do you know if it happens with v7 MIFs when opened with v8? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Broberg, Mats Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 3:47 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273) Jeremy, Thanks, good to hear you could replicate the behavior on your side. Now we definitely can remove the word "Possible" from the topic title... I will talk to our vendors and see if they can use this workaround. In the meantime, I hope that the men and women at Adobe understands how serious this bug is and will provide a patch as soon as possible. Thanks for the test work you did, Jeremy! Best regards, Mats Broberg www.flirthermography.com From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 2008-03-09 05:53 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Broberg, Mats Subject: Re: Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273) On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 16:24:48 +0100, "Broberg, Mats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Concise problem statement: >Opening edited (translated) MIF files in FrameMaker 8 causes some >of the extended characters disappear. Text containing extended >characters for different languages are missing characters in >FrameMaker, although all characters are present in the MIF file. >The missing characters follow no particular pattern, most of the >time all characters are there. We can confirm this bug in Frame 8.0p273. In your test case, the last UTF-8 character was dropped; the others were kept. We investigated a bit further and may have a workaround for you. We noticed the string content was fairly long, at 214 bytes (counting the five UTF-8 instances as two bytes each). While that doesn't exceed the 254-byte limit, we thought it would be worth examining. When we cut the string into three ParaLines as Frame would, where the first two were about 100 bytes each, all characters remained. We understand that a TM tool is generating the MIF. Is there a way to limit the maximum line length it allows in a single to, say, 128? The length doesn't really matter to Frame, since the line breaks are reset anyway upon loading the MIF. HTH! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/acarrico%40adamsglob alization.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Trouble splitting a chapter into two files using FrameMaker....
Glad to hear you fixed it. Cheers Alan Susan Herrin wrote: > Thanks everyone who replied!!! This solution -- plus looking at the doc at > 400 percent magnification -- did the trick. > > After everyone validated the right way to do this, I took a closer look at > the blank pages at the beginning of the second file. The second file was > supposed to begin with a tag that starts at the top of the page. Yeah, it > started at the top of the page, but prior to that page there were multiple > blank pages. I finally found a teeny tiny cross-reference marker stranded at > the very beginning of the chapter. After I deleted it, voila! the chapter > paginated correctly! > > Thanks again > > Susan > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Alan Litchfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Susan, >> >> I'm assuming that from the book file you have right clicked on each >> of the chapter files: >> 1. In the first chapter file you have set the pagination to delete >> empty pages; and, >> 2. in the second file you have set the first page to "next available". >> >> Cheers >> Alan >> >> On 7/03/2008, at 9:54 AM, Fred Ridder wrote: >> >> > >> > Susan Herrin wrote: >> > >> >> I have a chapter that is so large that it is causing FrameMaker to >> >> crash >> >> whenever I do an update. >> >> >> >> I've spit the chapter into two files, and so at least frame isn't >> >> crashing >> >> at the moment >> >> >> >> But I'm having problems with pagination and empty pages being >> >> inserted at >> >> the point where the chapter jumps from one file to the next. Anyone >> >> have >> >> expertise to share about this problem? >> >> -- >> Alan Litchfield MBus(Hons), MNZCS >> AlphaByte >> PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140 >> >> >> >> > -- Alan Litchfield MBus (Hons), MNZCS AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273)
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:45:45 -0500, "Alison Carrico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >This could end up being an issue for my company. Do you know if it >happens with v7 MIFs when opened with v8? Since the bug specifically affects UTF-8 sequences, and those are not used in Frame 7 MIF, it seems unlikely. -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Trouble splitting a chapter into two files using FrameMaker....
Thanks everyone who replied!!! This solution -- plus looking at the doc at 400 percent magnification -- did the trick. After everyone validated the right way to do this, I took a closer look at the blank pages at the beginning of the second file. The second file was supposed to begin with a tag that starts at the top of the page. Yeah, it started at the top of the page, but prior to that page there were multiple blank pages. I finally found a teeny tiny cross-reference marker stranded at the very beginning of the chapter. After I deleted it, voila! the chapter paginated correctly! Thanks again Susan On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Alan Litchfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Susan, > > I'm assuming that from the book file you have right clicked on each > of the chapter files: > 1. In the first chapter file you have set the pagination to delete > empty pages; and, > 2. in the second file you have set the first page to "next available". > > Cheers > Alan > > On 7/03/2008, at 9:54 AM, Fred Ridder wrote: > > > > > Susan Herrin wrote: > > > >> I have a chapter that is so large that it is causing FrameMaker to > >> crash > >> whenever I do an update. > >> > >> I've spit the chapter into two files, and so at least frame isn't > >> crashing > >> at the moment > >> > >> But I'm having problems with pagination and empty pages being > >> inserted at > >> the point where the chapter jumps from one file to the next. Anyone > >> have > >> expertise to share about this problem? > > -- > Alan Litchfield MBus(Hons), MNZCS > AlphaByte > PO Box 1941, Auckland, NZ. 1140 > > > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
cross references in topics used as text insets
Using FrameMaker 8 (unstructured). No FrameScript. No content-management system. Hoping to realize some efficiencies through the reuse of content, we are considering how to disassemble content in legacy documents into separate topics that will be inserted as needed into container documents. There will be three kinds of cross references in these documents: Topic to Topic, Topic to Container, and Container to Topic. We will want to set up XREFs to heading numbers, table numbers, figure numbers, and, probably, page numbers, all of which use a two-level (for example, "Figure 1-1. A Picture") format. In addition, all graphics are imported by reference into the individual topic documents. The deliverables will be PDFs with (we hope) working links. What is the best practice for achieving this using unstructured FrameMaker? Will moving to structured FrameMaker make this effort any easier? On 3 March, Rene Stephenson wrote, "the sure-fire way to handle xrefs in a text inset is actually by using hypertext links rather than xrefs." One challenge I have with this is in creating the GOTOLINK spot. For example, we currently identify graphics with the chapnum and the figure number followed by a text label. Is the best way to create a hypertext link to insert the XREF to the figure name (no numerals--I'm guessing that they won't necessarily update properly in the container doc), convert that XREF to text, mark the converted XREF with a character tag, and then insert the GOTOLINK command? (Whew! I can almost hear the gnashing of teeth.) I realize that this is a complex issue (even putting aside the issue of whether it is safer to put headings... also numbered...in the topics or in the container docs). Can anyone can recommend resources for resolving this issue? Doug Eaton ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
