Irgnore missing files on open not possible

2008-05-19 Thread Klaus Daube
Dear all,

I have a very strange situation with my two installations FM 8.0.2 en on 
Windows XP SP2 with all autmatic update:

A - on the workstation everything works as expected
B - on the laptop when opening a file whose pictures can not be found,
and activating "ignore this/all missing files" nothing happens.
I can only close the dialog and go back to the workstation to handle
this file.

I have not found any difference in the installed files. On both machines FM 
is installed in H:\Adobe\framemaker.8en. To be sure that both are same, i 
have copied the WS files to the laptop => no pos. effect.

Of course I have deleted the Document&Setting entries before starting FM to 
build them anew.

There may be a difference in the registry however - have not checked this 
yet.

Does anyone have a clue where this behaviour may come from?

Best regards
Klaus DaubeAnzeige:
www.mymemo.ch und nie mehr einen Gedanken oder Termin 
verpassen.

Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich
Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78
E-mail: ddd at daube.ch  Web: www.daube.ch/



[Fwd: Haven't we learnt anything about usability design? [was "Re: default "reply-to-all"]]

2008-05-19 Thread Hedley Finger
<>

All:

>> Hedley is not asking for a "reply-to-all." What he, I and, no doubt,
>> > others want is "reply-to-list." In other words, when you click your
>> > Reply button, by default, messages are addressed to the list.
>> 
>
> You're making a distinction without a difference. Alan and Jeremy
> weren't speaking _literally_ about "reply-to-all," but _functionally_.
> Your "reply-to-list" goes to everyone on the list, so it functions
> exactly as Alan described.
>
> You haven't countered Alan's argument, just stated that you prefer
> something different. OK, noted. :-)
>   

So, if a message sent to the list also has some C.c.s, and I hit 
Reply-to-All in Thunderbird/Penelope, is that "reply-to-all-all"?  
Seriously.

Alan and Jeremy were not speaking metaphorically, functionally, 
allegorically, etc. about "reply-to-all" in the list.  What they were 
doing was misunderstanding my explanation of how I use my  email client 
for only the framers list and none other:

1I hit the Reply-to-All button to get all the addresses in the To 
and C.c. fields.

2I delete the fields I don't want, usually all of them except the 
list address.

3I send the email.   So perhaps Alan and Jeremy were speaking 
operationally and figuratively.

Now if they had been speaking behaviourally, since every other list I 
subscribe to -- dozens of them (yes, I don't have a life) --  returns a 
Reply to the list, thus catering for the habitual behaviour of the 
millions of list users in the known multiverse who have become used to 
this and expect it.  Of course, there is always someone who will argue 
for the "technically" correct way of doing things rather than what meets 
people's expectations.  Which is why there are so many bad GUIs from 
developers who implement some ideological "pure" way rather than first 
asking what people do, what people want, and what people expect, and 
then implementing *that*.

Regards,
Hedley

P.S.  Bugger, just before sending this I noticed that the message was 
addressed to "Combs, Richard" and not the list.  Okay, let's correct the 
address yet again and send the message.

--

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Tel. +61 3 9809 1229   Fax. (call phone first)
Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558
Email. "Hedley Finger" 


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Tel. +61 3 9809 1229   Fax. (call phone first)
Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558
Email. "Hedley Finger" 


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Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558
Email. "Hedley Finger" 



Irgnore missing files on open not possible

2008-05-19 Thread Art Campbell
On each computers, is H: a logical drive on the local computer's hard
drive (a partition) or a network drive?
Are the missing files on a network drive?

Art

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Klaus Daube  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I have a very strange situation with my two installations FM 8.0.2 en on
> Windows XP SP2 with all autmatic update:
>
> A - on the workstation everything works as expected
> B - on the laptop when opening a file whose pictures can not be found,
>and activating "ignore this/all missing files" nothing happens.
>I can only close the dialog and go back to the workstation to handle
>this file.
>
> I have not found any difference in the installed files. On both machines FM
> is installed in H:\Adobe\framemaker.8en. To be sure that both are same, i
> have copied the WS files to the laptop => no pos. effect.
>
> Of course I have deleted the Document&Setting entries before starting FM to
> build them anew.
>
> There may be a difference in the registry however - have not checked this
> yet.
>
> Does anyone have a clue where this behaviour may come from?
>
> Best regards
> Klaus DaubeAnzeige:
> www.mymemo.ch und nie mehr einen Gedanken oder Termin
> verpassen.
> 
> Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich
> Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
> Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78
> E-mail: ddd at daube.ch  Web: www.daube.ch/
>
> ___
>
>

-- 
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 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358


RE: Haven't we learnt anything about usability? [was"Re: default"reply-to-all" "]

2008-05-19 Thread Syed.Hosain
Hi, Mike.

> > May I simply suggest that you and Paul (and others who want that
e-mail
> > client behavior) simply do a "Reply to All" *each and every time*
you
> > want to reply to a Frame Users List message, and you will get the
effect
> > you want?
> 
> Actually, it doesn't give us the effect we want at all. Not that I'm
religious
> about it, but with Reply to All, the sender of the message to which I
reply gets
> two copies, one sent to him/her and one to the list. This doubles the
Internet
> traffic needlessly, whereas Reply to List sends only one message.

A point ...  but this is pretty darn minor, I would think(?) It is not a
busy list per se.

> Sometimes, as with this message, it quadruples the Internet traffic,
because
> there were 3 cc's on the posting.

But, if the same person is included three (or more) times on a Cc, mail
servers filter that out anyway.

> Does this list have a moderator? Could you poll the list so that we
can settle
> this the democratic way?

I'd rather not see it change, because I am used to the way this list
operates currently. But, if the consensus is to go the other way, then I
will change my expectations too and work without letting it bug me.

I think we are worrying about this more than we need to - the real
object is to deal with FrameMaker questions. So, I will go quiet now on
this topic ...

Z
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Haven't we learnt anything about usability? [was"Re: default"reply-to-all" "]

2008-05-19 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
Hi, Mike.

> > May I simply suggest that you and Paul (and others who want that
e-mail
> > client behavior) simply do a "Reply to All" *each and every time*
you
> > want to reply to a Frame Users List message, and you will get the
effect
> > you want?
> 
> Actually, it doesn't give us the effect we want at all. Not that I'm
religious
> about it, but with Reply to All, the sender of the message to which I
reply gets
> two copies, one sent to him/her and one to the list. This doubles the
Internet
> traffic needlessly, whereas Reply to List sends only one message.

A point ...  but this is pretty darn minor, I would think(?) It is not a
busy list per se.

> Sometimes, as with this message, it quadruples the Internet traffic,
because
> there were 3 cc's on the posting.

But, if the same person is included three (or more) times on a Cc, mail
servers filter that out anyway.

> Does this list have a moderator? Could you poll the list so that we
can settle
> this the democratic way?

I'd rather not see it change, because I am used to the way this list
operates currently. But, if the consensus is to go the other way, then I
will change my expectations too and work without letting it bug me.

I think we are worrying about this more than we need to - the real
object is to deal with FrameMaker questions. So, I will go quiet now on
this topic ...

Z


Re: FrameMaker Uses

2008-05-19 Thread Steven Miller
Just to add to the list, I have used FrameMaker for years to create
"J-cards" for cassette mix tapes (and later jewelcase inserts for mix
CDs) that I make for friends. FrameMaker makes it easy to format text
and images exactly as I want them for these projects *and* I can
generate LOP lists of songs I've sent to a particular friend to whom
I've sent many tapes/CDs so I don't send duplicates.  I pretty much
jumped directly from WordStar to FrameMaker for all of my personal-use
document projects...

 

s

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FrameMaker Uses

2008-05-19 Thread Steven Miller
Just to add to the list, I have used FrameMaker for years to create
"J-cards" for cassette mix tapes (and later jewelcase inserts for mix
CDs) that I make for friends. FrameMaker makes it easy to format text
and images exactly as I want them for these projects *and* I can
generate LOP lists of songs I've sent to a particular friend to whom
I've sent many tapes/CDs so I don't send duplicates.  I pretty much
jumped directly from WordStar to FrameMaker for all of my personal-use
document projects...



s



RE: Haven't we learnt anything about usability?

2008-05-19 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
Just so everyone on this list has an idea of what 
one alternative method of posting to a list looks 
like, I've included the principle headers from 
another list to which I subscribe. Mind you, my 
subscription is set up to receive "digests" 
several times daily rather than individual 
postings as they are sent to the list server. A 
digest contains a collection of postings, 
concatenated down the page. A typical digest will 
contain from 2 to 12 postings, each basically an 
email message sent by the posting member. I do 
not recommend using digests; I just include the 
header information to show what the Reply-To: and From: lines look like.

One possibly major disadvantage of this method of 
posting is the latency involved. That is, a 
posting may not appear for several hours, whereas 
direct email may be quicker—perhaps near 
instantaneous. I don't recall how quickly 
individual postings appeared prior to when I 
changed over to a digest format. Timeliness may 
be a good reason for leaving things the way they are.

The FOLKDJ-L subscriber list comprises folk music 
artists, radio DJs that play folk music, 
publicity agents, record label staffers and so 
on. It is used to share radio program playlists 
and occasionally to make announcements of one kind or another.

This list is a LISTSERV list. I suppose MAILMAN could do something similar:

Date:  Mon, 19 May 2008 11:57:29 -0400
Reply-To: Folk and Bluegrass DJs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sender: Folk and Bluegrass DJs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: FOLKDJ-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FOLKDJ-L - 19 May 2008 - Special issue (#2008-427)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Note that a Reply to any message in the digest is a Reply to the list.

Dennis...

Dennis Brunnenmeyer
Director of Engineering
CEDAR RIDGE SYSTEMS
15019 Rattlesnake Road
Grass Valley, CA 95945-8710
Office: (530) 477-9015
Fax:  (530) 477-9085
Mobile: (530) 320-9025
eMail:  dennisb /at/ chronometrics /dot/ com
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Haven't we learnt anything about usability?

2008-05-19 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
Just so everyone on this list has an idea of what 
one alternative method of posting to a list looks 
like, I've included the principle headers from 
another list to which I subscribe. Mind you, my 
subscription is set up to receive "digests" 
several times daily rather than individual 
postings as they are sent to the list server. A 
digest contains a collection of postings, 
concatenated down the page. A typical digest will 
contain from 2 to 12 postings, each basically an 
email message sent by the posting member. I do 
not recommend using digests; I just include the 
header information to show what the Reply-To: and From: lines look like.

One possibly major disadvantage of this method of 
posting is the latency involved. That is, a 
posting may not appear for several hours, whereas 
direct email may be quicker?perhaps near 
instantaneous. I don't recall how quickly 
individual postings appeared prior to when I 
changed over to a digest format. Timeliness may 
be a good reason for leaving things the way they are.

The FOLKDJ-L subscriber list comprises folk music 
artists, radio DJs that play folk music, 
publicity agents, record label staffers and so 
on. It is used to share radio program playlists 
and occasionally to make announcements of one kind or another.

This list is a LISTSERV list. I suppose MAILMAN could do something similar:

Date:  Mon, 19 May 2008 11:57:29 -0400
Reply-To: Folk and Bluegrass DJs 
Sender: Folk and Bluegrass DJs 
From: FOLKDJ-L 
Subject: FOLKDJ-L - 19 May 2008 - Special issue (#2008-427)
To: FOLKDJ-L at LISTS.PSU.EDU

Note that a Reply to any message in the digest is a Reply to the list.

Dennis...

Dennis Brunnenmeyer
Director of Engineering
CEDAR RIDGE SYSTEMS
15019 Rattlesnake Road
Grass Valley, CA 95945-8710
Office: (530) 477-9015
Fax:  (530) 477-9085
Mobile: (530) 320-9025
eMail:  dennisb /at/ chronometrics /dot/ com


Re: Irgnore missing files on open not possible

2008-05-19 Thread Art Campbell
On each computers, is H: a logical drive on the local computer's hard
drive (a partition) or a network drive?
Are the missing files on a network drive?

Art

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Klaus Daube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I have a very strange situation with my two installations FM 8.0.2 en on
> Windows XP SP2 with all autmatic update:
>
> A - on the workstation everything works as expected
> B - on the laptop when opening a file whose pictures can not be found,
>and activating "ignore this/all missing files" nothing happens.
>I can only close the dialog and go back to the workstation to handle
>this file.
>
> I have not found any difference in the installed files. On both machines FM
> is installed in H:\Adobe\framemaker.8en. To be sure that both are same, i
> have copied the WS files to the laptop => no pos. effect.
>
> Of course I have deleted the Document&Setting entries before starting FM to
> build them anew.
>
> There may be a difference in the registry however - have not checked this
> yet.
>
> Does anyone have a clue where this behaviour may come from?
>
> Best regards
> Klaus DaubeAnzeige:
> www.mymemo.ch und nie mehr einen Gedanken oder Termin
> verpassen.
> 
> Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich
> Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
> Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Web: www.daube.ch/
>
> ___
>
>

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Irgnore missing files on open not possible

2008-05-19 Thread Klaus Daube
Dear all,

I have a very strange situation with my two installations FM 8.0.2 en on 
Windows XP SP2 with all autmatic update:

A - on the workstation everything works as expected
B - on the laptop when opening a file whose pictures can not be found,
and activating "ignore this/all missing files" nothing happens.
I can only close the dialog and go back to the workstation to handle
this file.

I have not found any difference in the installed files. On both machines FM 
is installed in H:\Adobe\framemaker.8en. To be sure that both are same, i 
have copied the WS files to the laptop => no pos. effect.

Of course I have deleted the Document&Setting entries before starting FM to 
build them anew.

There may be a difference in the registry however - have not checked this 
yet.

Does anyone have a clue where this behaviour may come from?

Best regards
Klaus DaubeAnzeige:
www.mymemo.ch und nie mehr einen Gedanken oder Termin 
verpassen.

Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich
Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Web: www.daube.ch/

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Haven't we learnt anything about usability? [was "Re: default "reply-to-all" "]

2008-05-19 Thread Alan Litchfield
Ayup. I can understand the rationale for it, but this is the only list to
which I am subscribed that replies in this way.

And, you know, I just about did it again with this post :/

Alan

Hedley Finger wrote:
> Paul Findon wrote:
>
>> What normally happens to me with Framers is that I reply to a message
>> with some info that I believe will of interest to other Framers and
>> may trigger a response, or I add a new sub question. Then, after
>> several days I remember the thread and wonder why no one has
>> responded. I check the message I sent and discover that once again
>> I've been fooled by Framers non-standard reply mechanism.
>>
> Me, too!   Sorry to me-too but I bet there are others who have fallen
> into this trap.
>


-- 
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AlphaByte
PO Box 1941, Auckland
http://www.alphabyte.co.nz



RE: Haven't we learnt anything about usability? [was "Re: default"reply-to-all" "]

2008-05-19 Thread Mike Bradley
> May I simply suggest that you and Paul (and others who want that e-mail
> client behavior) simply do a "Reply to All" *each and every time* you
> want to reply to a Frame Users List message, and you will get the effect
> you want?

Actually, it doesn't give us the effect we want at all. Not that I'm religious
about it, but with Reply to All, the sender of the message to which I reply gets
two copies, one sent to him/her and one to the list. This doubles the Internet
traffic needlessly, whereas Reply to List sends only one message. Sometimes, as
with this message, it quadruples the Internet traffic, because there were 3 cc's
on the posting. 

Personally, I find getting duplicate replies annoying and I think sending them
is rude, but if everyone who posts messages doesn't mind getting duplicate
replies, so be it.

Does this list have a moderator? Could you poll the list so that we can settle
this the democratic way?

= Mike Bradley
  www.techpubs.com


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Haven't we learnt anything about usability? [was "Re: default"reply-to-all" "]

2008-05-19 Thread Mike Bradley
> May I simply suggest that you and Paul (and others who want that e-mail
> client behavior) simply do a "Reply to All" *each and every time* you
> want to reply to a Frame Users List message, and you will get the effect
> you want?

Actually, it doesn't give us the effect we want at all. Not that I'm religious
about it, but with Reply to All, the sender of the message to which I reply gets
two copies, one sent to him/her and one to the list. This doubles the Internet
traffic needlessly, whereas Reply to List sends only one message. Sometimes, as
with this message, it quadruples the Internet traffic, because there were 3 cc's
on the posting. 

Personally, I find getting duplicate replies annoying and I think sending them
is rude, but if everyone who posts messages doesn't mind getting duplicate
replies, so be it.

Does this list have a moderator? Could you poll the list so that we can settle
this the democratic way?

= Mike Bradley
  www.techpubs.com




Haven't we learnt anything about usability design? [was "Re: default "reply-to-all"]

2008-05-19 Thread Hedley Finger
All:

>> Hedley is not asking for a "reply-to-all." What he, I and, no doubt,
>> > others want is "reply-to-list." In other words, when you click your
>> > Reply button, by default, messages are addressed to the list.
>> 
>
> You're making a distinction without a difference. Alan and Jeremy
> weren't speaking _literally_ about "reply-to-all," but _functionally_.
> Your "reply-to-list" goes to everyone on the list, so it functions
> exactly as Alan described.
>
> You haven't countered Alan's argument, just stated that you prefer
> something different. OK, noted. :-)
>   

So, if a message sent to the list also has some C.c.s, and I hit 
Reply-to-All in Thunderbird/Penelope, is that "reply-to-all-all"?  
Seriously.

Alan and Jeremy were not speaking metaphorically, functionally, 
allegorically, etc. about "reply-to-all" in the list.  What they were 
doing was misunderstanding my explanation of how I use my  email client 
for only the framers list and none other:

1I hit the Reply-to-All button to get all the addresses in the To 
and C.c. fields.

2I delete the fields I don't want, usually all of them except the 
list address.

3I send the email.   So perhaps Alan and Jeremy were speaking 
operationally and figuratively.

Now if they had been speaking behaviourally, since every other list I 
subscribe to -- dozens of them (yes, I don't have a life) --  returns a 
Reply to the list, thus catering for the habitual behaviour of the 
millions of list users in the known multiverse who have become used to 
this and expect it.  Of course, there is always someone who will argue 
for the "technically" correct way of doing things rather than what meets 
people's expectations.  Which is why there are so many bad GUIs from 
developers who implement some ideological "pure" way rather than first 
asking what people do, what people want, and what people expect, and 
then implementing *that*.

Regards,
Hedley

P.S.  Bugger, just before sending this I noticed that the message was 
addressed to "Combs, Richard" and not the list.  Okay, let's correct the 
address yet again and send the message.

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Tel. +61 3 9809 1229   Fax. (call phone first)
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Frame and Distiller Crash Update

2008-05-19 Thread Art Campbell
This may be a rhetorical question, but you're using the same settings
that you used for the book for the individual files, correct? Unless
you're printing them from within the book (print selected files), each
component is using its own printer/PDF settings and they're likely to
be the same ones that were causing a problem with the book

So the problem is getting the same, working settings in place as your
default setup.

Art

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Anderson, Ben
 wrote:
> First, thanks to Art for their suggested fixes to my problem
> (select/deselect the Generate Tagged PDF setting and delete fntcache.dat
> file).
>
> Now on to part II of my problem!!
>
> Frame and distiller no longer crash  when I generate a single PDF of the
> entire book, but when I generate individual PDFs, both applications
> crash.  I've tried to isolate a specific file, but the crash doesn't
> happen on the same file each time.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks!
> --Ben
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Anderson, Ben
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 10:41 AM
> To: Framers at frameusers.com
> Subject: Frame and Distiller Crash
>
> Frame Gang,
>
> I'm in the process of testing the evaluation copy of Technical
> Communication Suite and have run into a couple of crashes.
>
> I've got a book (created in Frame 7.2) that I've opened in Frame 8.0
> (p273) and tried to convert to PDF.  I can get the book to update just
> fine, but when I "save as PDF", Frame crashes.  I've also printed the
> book to postscript and then tried to distill the files to PDF, but then
> distiller crashes.
>
> I have all of the system requirements (i.e., disk space, RAM, etc.), so
> I don't think that's an issue, but I'm not positive.
>
> Also, I'm using the standard Adobe PDF printer that comes with the Tech
> Comm Suite install.
>
> Any info would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> --Ben
>
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Use of TemplateMapper for converting from Word?

2008-05-19 Thread David Kuhn


Regarding the issue of using TemplateMapper to convert from word,
Caroline Tabach wrote:



To try and make this more useful, Save the Word document as rtf

Then open the RTF file in FrameMaker.

Now all of your styles are preserved.

Obviously this might not solve your other issue, but does help with the
paragraph styles.



I found that I lost more by importing from RTF. There was still no
differentiation between Word styles. But graphics were no longer in
anchored frames and, although references can in very funny by importing
the word doc, at least they were working references. But this was lost
when importing the RTF.



Then I dug out an old message from Fred Ridder, I think, who suggested
using word macros to help map the styles.

This led to my discovery that the non-differentiation between styles was
actually an issue with the Word template being used. An older template
version did convert better with TemplateMapper because it differentiated
more between styles. So the current word template can be prepped for
conversion to Frame by macros. 







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Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:09 PM

To: framers at lists.frameusers.com

Subject: Use of TemplateMapper for converting from Word?



When I first heard of TemplateMapper, I wondered if this could be used

to help convert from Word to FrameMaker.

Then I saw some postings on the list that confirmed that some people do

use it for this.



Now that I have TemplateMapper, I cannot figure out how it is helpful

for this. 

If you Import a Word document, selecting Copy into Document, then all

the paragraph tags (except headings and captions) become *BodyText with

no distinction between bullets or numbers, for example.



Other issues:

* It doesn't look like the TemplateMapper can help with the

cross-references because, for instance, there's no way to distinguish

between the cross-reference types. 



* Because our notes are in tables, it doesn't look like there is

any way around redoing them all manually.



* It doesn't actually convert the tables. I need to go over them

with TableCleaner.









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Case Change (a la Word)?

2008-05-19 Thread Art Campbell
Go into Catalyst >  Control Center > Hotkeys. Change the default key
assignment to something else.

***
The keyboard shortcuts and Character Designer are two different
issues...  No idea on the second one.

Art

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Deirdre Reagan
 wrote:
> CRTL + ALT + c brings up a dialog box for a software program called
> ATI Catalyst.  I wonder why it's overridding the FrameMaker control.
> CRTL + ALT + u and CRTL + ALT + l worked just fine.
>
> Even more strangely, I just went into character designer and clicked
> Small Caps Apply and nothing happened.  Then I clicked Uppercase Apply
> and nothing happened.  Character designer appears to have stopped
> working.
>
> ?
>
> Deirdre
>
>
> On 5/17/08, Art Campbell  wrote:
>> Ctrl-Alt and u, l, or c for UPPER, lower, or Cap(Case)
>>
>> Art
>>
>> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Ken Poshedly  
>> wrote:
>> > Maybe I just haven't found it yet (it's not really a top priority but
>> > would oftentimes make some tasks a bit quicker), but does FM have a
>> > similar feature as in Word whee you can choose to change the case of
>> > a selection of highlighted words (ALL CAPS, all lowercase, Initial
>> > Case, or Title case like this).
>> >
>> > I'm using FM7.0 at home and 8.0 a the office -- both on a Windows XP 
>> > platform.
>> >
>> > -- Kenpo in Atlanta
>> > ___
>> >
>>
>> --
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[Fwd: Haven't we learnt anything about usability design? [was "Re: default "reply-to-all"]]

2008-05-19 Thread Bill Swallow
Old dogs... ;-)

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Frame and Distiller Crash Update

2008-05-19 Thread Anderson, Ben
First, thanks to Art for their suggested fixes to my problem
(select/deselect the Generate Tagged PDF setting and delete fntcache.dat
file).

Now on to part II of my problem!!

Frame and distiller no longer crash  when I generate a single PDF of the
entire book, but when I generate individual PDFs, both applications
crash.  I've tried to isolate a specific file, but the crash doesn't
happen on the same file each time.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
--Ben

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Subject: Frame and Distiller Crash

Frame Gang,

I'm in the process of testing the evaluation copy of Technical
Communication Suite and have run into a couple of crashes.

I've got a book (created in Frame 7.2) that I've opened in Frame 8.0
(p273) and tried to convert to PDF.  I can get the book to update just
fine, but when I "save as PDF", Frame crashes.  I've also printed the
book to postscript and then tried to distill the files to PDF, but then
distiller crashes.

I have all of the system requirements (i.e., disk space, RAM, etc.), so
I don't think that's an issue, but I'm not positive.

Also, I'm using the standard Adobe PDF printer that comes with the Tech
Comm Suite install.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
--Ben

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Case Change (a la Word)?

2008-05-19 Thread Sam Beard
Art,

   Yes, thank you! I've wondered the same thing before, so I appreciate
Ken for asking! I don't remember ever seeing this anywhere, either!

Samuel I. Beard, Jr.
Technical Writer
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979 690-1711 Ext. 222
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Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 9:51 AM
To: Art Campbell
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Case Change (a la Word)?

Ah . . what a list!

Thank you, Art!

-- Ken


At 10:11 AM 5/17/2008, Art Campbell wrote:
>Ctrl-Alt and u, l, or c for UPPER, lower, or Cap(Case)
>
>Art
>
>On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Ken Poshedly 
wrote:
> > Maybe I just haven't found it yet (it's not really a top priority
but
> > would oftentimes make some tasks a bit quicker), but does FM have a
> > similar feature as in Word whee you can choose to change the case of
> > a selection of highlighted words (ALL CAPS, all lowercase, Initial
> > Case, or Title case like this).
> >
> > I'm using FM7.0 at home and 8.0 a the office -- both on a Windows 
> XP platform.
> >
> > -- Kenpo in Atlanta
> > ___
> >
>
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Color of table borders...

2008-05-19 Thread Hedley Finger
Scott:

>> Through the GUI?  Table->Custom Ruling & Shading lets you change
>> properties of ruling styles, or create new ruling styles with
>> different properties.

Table > Custom Ruling & Shading > Edit Ruling Style.  If you type a new 
ruling name it is added.  The new ruling style then becomes available in 
the Table Designer.

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Haven't we learnt anything about usability? [was "Re: default "reply-to-all" "]

2008-05-19 Thread Hedley Finger
Paul Findon wrote:

> What normally happens to me with Framers is that I reply to a message
> with some info that I believe will of interest to other Framers and
> may trigger a response, or I add a new sub question. Then, after
> several days I remember the thread and wonder why no one has
> responded. I check the message I sent and discover that once again
> I've been fooled by Framers non-standard reply mechanism.
>   
Me, too!   Sorry to me-too but I bet there are others who have fallen 
into this trap.

-- Hedley

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Case Change (a la Word)?

2008-05-19 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
And: FM not only changes the presentation of the characters, like Word
does, but actually changes them (the character code).
Besides the shortcuts, there is a toolbar with these options. Click
View > Quick Access Bar, if it is not showing.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson


On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Ken Poshedly  wrote:
> Ah . . what a list!
>
> Thank you, Art!
>
> -- Ken
>
>
> At 10:11 AM 5/17/2008, Art Campbell wrote:
>>Ctrl-Alt and u, l, or c for UPPER, lower, or Cap(Case)
>>
>>Art
>>
>>On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Ken Poshedly  
>>wrote:
>> > Maybe I just haven't found it yet (it's not really a top priority but
>> > would oftentimes make some tasks a bit quicker), but does FM have a
>> > similar feature as in Word whee you can choose to change the case of
>> > a selection of highlighted words (ALL CAPS, all lowercase, Initial
>> > Case, or Title case like this).
>> >
>> > I'm using FM7.0 at home and 8.0 a the office -- both on a Windows
>> XP platform.
>> >
>> > -- Kenpo in Atlanta
>> > ___
>> >
>>
>>--
>>Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com


Case Change (a la Word)?

2008-05-19 Thread Deirdre Reagan
CRTL + ALT + c brings up a dialog box for a software program called
ATI Catalyst.  I wonder why it's overridding the FrameMaker control.
CRTL + ALT + u and CRTL + ALT + l worked just fine.

Even more strangely, I just went into character designer and clicked
Small Caps Apply and nothing happened.  Then I clicked Uppercase Apply
and nothing happened.  Character designer appears to have stopped
working.

?

Deirdre


On 5/17/08, Art Campbell  wrote:
> Ctrl-Alt and u, l, or c for UPPER, lower, or Cap(Case)
>
> Art
>
> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Ken Poshedly  
> wrote:
> > Maybe I just haven't found it yet (it's not really a top priority but
> > would oftentimes make some tasks a bit quicker), but does FM have a
> > similar feature as in Word whee you can choose to change the case of
> > a selection of highlighted words (ALL CAPS, all lowercase, Initial
> > Case, or Title case like this).
> >
> > I'm using FM7.0 at home and 8.0 a the office -- both on a Windows XP 
> > platform.
> >
> > -- Kenpo in Atlanta
> > ___
> >
>
> --
> Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
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> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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Re: Frame and Distiller Crash Update

2008-05-19 Thread Art Campbell
This may be a rhetorical question, but you're using the same settings
that you used for the book for the individual files, correct? Unless
you're printing them from within the book (print selected files), each
component is using its own printer/PDF settings and they're likely to
be the same ones that were causing a problem with the book

So the problem is getting the same, working settings in place as your
default setup.

Art

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Anderson, Ben
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First, thanks to Art for their suggested fixes to my problem
> (select/deselect the Generate Tagged PDF setting and delete fntcache.dat
> file).
>
> Now on to part II of my problem!!
>
> Frame and distiller no longer crash  when I generate a single PDF of the
> entire book, but when I generate individual PDFs, both applications
> crash.  I've tried to isolate a specific file, but the crash doesn't
> happen on the same file each time.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks!
> --Ben
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anderson, Ben
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 10:41 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Frame and Distiller Crash
>
> Frame Gang,
>
> I'm in the process of testing the evaluation copy of Technical
> Communication Suite and have run into a couple of crashes.
>
> I've got a book (created in Frame 7.2) that I've opened in Frame 8.0
> (p273) and tried to convert to PDF.  I can get the book to update just
> fine, but when I "save as PDF", Frame crashes.  I've also printed the
> book to postscript and then tried to distill the files to PDF, but then
> distiller crashes.
>
> I have all of the system requirements (i.e., disk space, RAM, etc.), so
> I don't think that's an issue, but I'm not positive.
>
> Also, I'm using the standard Adobe PDF printer that comes with the Tech
> Comm Suite install.
>
> Any info would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> --Ben
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Frame and Distiller Crash Update

2008-05-19 Thread Anderson, Ben
First, thanks to Art for their suggested fixes to my problem
(select/deselect the Generate Tagged PDF setting and delete fntcache.dat
file).

Now on to part II of my problem!!

Frame and distiller no longer crash  when I generate a single PDF of the
entire book, but when I generate individual PDFs, both applications
crash.  I've tried to isolate a specific file, but the crash doesn't
happen on the same file each time.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
--Ben

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anderson, Ben
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 10:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Frame and Distiller Crash

Frame Gang,

I'm in the process of testing the evaluation copy of Technical
Communication Suite and have run into a couple of crashes.

I've got a book (created in Frame 7.2) that I've opened in Frame 8.0
(p273) and tried to convert to PDF.  I can get the book to update just
fine, but when I "save as PDF", Frame crashes.  I've also printed the
book to postscript and then tried to distill the files to PDF, but then
distiller crashes.

I have all of the system requirements (i.e., disk space, RAM, etc.), so
I don't think that's an issue, but I'm not positive.

Also, I'm using the standard Adobe PDF printer that comes with the Tech
Comm Suite install.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
--Ben

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RE: Case Change (a la Word)?

2008-05-19 Thread Sam Beard
Art,

   Yes, thank you! I've wondered the same thing before, so I appreciate
Ken for asking! I don't remember ever seeing this anywhere, either!

Samuel I. Beard, Jr.
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Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 9:51 AM
To: Art Campbell
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Case Change (a la Word)?

Ah . . what a list!

Thank you, Art!

-- Ken


At 10:11 AM 5/17/2008, Art Campbell wrote:
>Ctrl-Alt and u, l, or c for UPPER, lower, or Cap(Case)
>
>Art
>
>On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Ken Poshedly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > Maybe I just haven't found it yet (it's not really a top priority
but
> > would oftentimes make some tasks a bit quicker), but does FM have a
> > similar feature as in Word whee you can choose to change the case of
> > a selection of highlighted words (ALL CAPS, all lowercase, Initial
> > Case, or Title case like this).
> >
> > I'm using FM7.0 at home and 8.0 a the office -- both on a Windows 
> XP platform.
> >
> > -- Kenpo in Atlanta
> > ___
> >
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Re: Case Change (a la Word)?

2008-05-19 Thread Art Campbell
Go into Catalyst >  Control Center > Hotkeys. Change the default key
assignment to something else.

***
The keyboard shortcuts and Character Designer are two different
issues...  No idea on the second one.

Art

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Deirdre Reagan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> CRTL + ALT + c brings up a dialog box for a software program called
> ATI Catalyst.  I wonder why it's overridding the FrameMaker control.
> CRTL + ALT + u and CRTL + ALT + l worked just fine.
>
> Even more strangely, I just went into character designer and clicked
> Small Caps Apply and nothing happened.  Then I clicked Uppercase Apply
> and nothing happened.  Character designer appears to have stopped
> working.
>
> ?
>
> Deirdre
>
>
> On 5/17/08, Art Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ctrl-Alt and u, l, or c for UPPER, lower, or Cap(Case)
>>
>> Art
>>
>> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Ken Poshedly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Maybe I just haven't found it yet (it's not really a top priority but
>> > would oftentimes make some tasks a bit quicker), but does FM have a
>> > similar feature as in Word whee you can choose to change the case of
>> > a selection of highlighted words (ALL CAPS, all lowercase, Initial
>> > Case, or Title case like this).
>> >
>> > I'm using FM7.0 at home and 8.0 a the office -- both on a Windows XP 
>> > platform.
>> >
>> > -- Kenpo in Atlanta
>> > ___
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
>> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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Re: [Fwd: Haven't we learnt anything about usability design? [was "Re: default "reply-to-all"]]

2008-05-19 Thread Bill Swallow
Old dogs... ;-)

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Re: Case Change (a la Word)?

2008-05-19 Thread Deirdre Reagan
CRTL + ALT + c brings up a dialog box for a software program called
ATI Catalyst.  I wonder why it's overridding the FrameMaker control.
CRTL + ALT + u and CRTL + ALT + l worked just fine.

Even more strangely, I just went into character designer and clicked
Small Caps Apply and nothing happened.  Then I clicked Uppercase Apply
and nothing happened.  Character designer appears to have stopped
working.

?

Deirdre


On 5/17/08, Art Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ctrl-Alt and u, l, or c for UPPER, lower, or Cap(Case)
>
> Art
>
> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Ken Poshedly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Maybe I just haven't found it yet (it's not really a top priority but
> > would oftentimes make some tasks a bit quicker), but does FM have a
> > similar feature as in Word whee you can choose to change the case of
> > a selection of highlighted words (ALL CAPS, all lowercase, Initial
> > Case, or Title case like this).
> >
> > I'm using FM7.0 at home and 8.0 a the office -- both on a Windows XP 
> > platform.
> >
> > -- Kenpo in Atlanta
> > ___
> >
>
> --
> Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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Re: Case Change (a la Word)?

2008-05-19 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
And: FM not only changes the presentation of the characters, like Word
does, but actually changes them (the character code).
Besides the shortcuts, there is a toolbar with these options. Click
View > Quick Access Bar, if it is not showing.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson


On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Ken Poshedly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ah . . what a list!
>
> Thank you, Art!
>
> -- Ken
>
>
> At 10:11 AM 5/17/2008, Art Campbell wrote:
>>Ctrl-Alt and u, l, or c for UPPER, lower, or Cap(Case)
>>
>>Art
>>
>>On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Ken Poshedly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Maybe I just haven't found it yet (it's not really a top priority but
>> > would oftentimes make some tasks a bit quicker), but does FM have a
>> > similar feature as in Word whee you can choose to change the case of
>> > a selection of highlighted words (ALL CAPS, all lowercase, Initial
>> > Case, or Title case like this).
>> >
>> > I'm using FM7.0 at home and 8.0 a the office -- both on a Windows
>> XP platform.
>> >
>> > -- Kenpo in Atlanta
>> > ___
>> >
>>
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RE: Use of TemplateMapper for converting from Word?

2008-05-19 Thread David Kuhn
 

Regarding the issue of using TemplateMapper to convert from word,
Caroline Tabach wrote:

 

To try and make this more useful, Save the Word document as rtf

Then open the RTF file in FrameMaker.

Now all of your styles are preserved.

Obviously this might not solve your other issue, but does help with the
paragraph styles.

 

I found that I lost more by importing from RTF. There was still no
differentiation between Word styles. But graphics were no longer in
anchored frames and, although references can in very funny by importing
the word doc, at least they were working references. But this was lost
when importing the RTF.

 

Then I dug out an old message from Fred Ridder, I think, who suggested
using word macros to help map the styles.

This led to my discovery that the non-differentiation between styles was
actually an issue with the Word template being used. An older template
version did convert better with TemplateMapper because it differentiated
more between styles. So the current word template can be prepped for
conversion to Frame by macros. 

 

 

 

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Subject: Use of TemplateMapper for converting from Word?

 

When I first heard of TemplateMapper, I wondered if this could be used

to help convert from Word to FrameMaker.

Then I saw some postings on the list that confirmed that some people do

use it for this.

 

Now that I have TemplateMapper, I cannot figure out how it is helpful

for this. 

If you Import a Word document, selecting Copy into Document, then all

the paragraph tags (except headings and captions) become *BodyText with

no distinction between bullets or numbers, for example.

 

Other issues:

* It doesn't look like the TemplateMapper can help with the

cross-references because, for instance, there's no way to distinguish

between the cross-reference types. 

 

* Because our notes are in tables, it doesn't look like there is

any way around redoing them all manually.

 

* It doesn't actually convert the tables. I need to go over them

with TableCleaner.

 

 

 

 

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