Table Continuation variable in table title

[Leah Smaller]

Good day all,

I want to update a table format to include the Table continuation variable in 
the table title, so it is always there when I insert this type of table. I 
cannot seem to discover how to do this. I know that someone out there has the 
answer

TIA,
Leah Smaller
Technical Communicator
Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
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RE: Problems when exporting to PDF from FM8

[Diane Gaskill]

I am seeing the same errors, except that I print to PS using Adobe PDF and
then distill to PDF.   Headings, headers, and footers are sometimes munged,
but only during the first few pages of the file. the errors show up on the
screen as well as in print.

First, I'm going to update FM to 8.03 and then reprint to PS and distill.

I'm going to change the font and see if that fixes the problem. All of the
munged items use Tahoma. I'll also try changing the job options settings,
like embedding the fonts and see if that changes anything.

Meanwhile, if any of you know a fix or a workaround for this, I'd appreciate
it if you would post iot to the list.

Thanks,

Diane Gaskill

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Subject: RE: Problems when exporting to PDF from FM8


Erin Huff wrote:

 I have found a problem with exporting a FM8 book to PDF.
 When I export/save as PDF and then open the file in Acrobat I will
usually
 find that some of my information (Headers, table rows, variables,
etc...)
 are missing from my PDF, even though they are present in the FM8 file.
 I always update and save the book and all included files before
exporting.
 I have tried exporting to PDF every single way I can from FM and it
will
 not export all the information.
 I have the latest updates for FM8.
 Am using Distiller 7.0 and Acrobat Professional 7.0
 The last time I tried to PDF I spend over thirty minutes trying to PDF
and
 finally had to have a coworker PDF for me.
 Does anyone know of a way to solve this?

Is your coworker successfully creating PDFs from the books that give you
trouble? Then you need to analyze what the differences are between your
setup and your coworker's.

Are there any errors recorded in the log files?

It could be a font problem. Go to Distiller's Adobe PDF Settings dialog,
Fonts page, and make sure that it's set to embed fonts. And set When
embedding fails to Cancel job. That way, if it's a missing (or
unembeddable) font, at least you'll know. :-)

HTH!
Richard


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Booklet function with Framemaker

[Andersen, Verner Engell VEA]

Hey

Is there a plugin which enables to create a booklet with Framemaker.  I
am thinking of a function where  for example page 1 and page 62 is
printed on one side of the paper and page 2 and page 61 on the other
side of the paper.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Verner


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Akandevej 21 
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Denmark 
Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 
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Fwd: Booklet function with Framemaker

[Art Campbell]

The usual way to do this is to paginate the file normally and print
the file to PDF. Then use pre-press tools such as Quite Imposing
(there are many others that do the same thing) to set up the
imposition pattern. Note that it is a pre-press tool.

Most FM users can get into trouble with this if they're doing the work
for a commercial printer because the printer knows his equipment and
its required workflow better than the author. Because the author
doesn't work with the printer's equipment and is attempting to do a
job for which they aren't qualified, the author is likely to create
more work for the printer instead of less.

It's probably safe if you're designing a booklet that you think
someone would download from a www site and print on a home printer or
if you're printing a few copies for yourself on your own printer. But
even there you're likely to create a file that many people can't print
accurately because printer drivers print multi-page duplex files in
different ways. Again, unless you know the equipment and software in
use, it's hard to predict the right imposition pattern.

Cheers,
Art

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey

 Is there a plugin which enables to create a booklet with Framemaker.  I
 am thinking of a function where  for example page 1 and page 62 is
 printed on one side of the paper and page 2 and page 61 on the other
 side of the paper.





 Best regards,



 Verner
 

 Radiometer Medical ApS
 Akandevej 21
 DK-2700 Bronshoj
 Denmark
 Phone: +45 38 27 38 27
 CVR: 13496188
 


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another table question

[Leah Smaller]

Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format? 

TIA again,
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Re: another table question

[Art Campbell]

Not automatically generated words controlled directly by the table format, no.

However, you can set up a series of paragraph tags, one for each
column, and add text to each one's Autonumbering field. If the tag is
in the correct Heading Cell, the text will be too.

In most cases, if you create a table, set it up with the correct tags
in the correct columns, and then open and save the settings in Table
Designer, the next time you create a table, the tags should show up as
the default setup. I haven't tested this with multiple different tags,
though, just with one tag in each column. But that's the way I'd try
to automate it. Worst case is that you'd have to change a couple tags
after you create the table.

And, if you have FrameScript, you could also do the automatic words
with a script.

Art

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Leah Smaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?

 TIA again,
 Leah Smaller
 Technical Communicator
 Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Booklet function with Framemaker

[Jacob Schäffer]

Hello Verner,

I'm not sure there is a Plug-in for Framemaker that does it, but Quite Imposing 
(Plus) is a simple-to-use tool that creates booklets with PDF documents, see 
http://www.quite.com/imposing/index.htm.

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 Emne: Booklet function with Framemaker
 
 
 Hey
 
 Is there a plugin which enables to create a booklet with 
 Framemaker.  I am thinking of a function where  for example 
 page 1 and page 62 is printed on one side of the paper and 
 page 2 and page 61 on the other side of the paper.
 
  
 
  
 
 Best regards,
 
  
 
 Verner
 
 
 Radiometer Medical ApS 
 Akandevej 21 
 DK-2700 Bronshoj 
 Denmark 
 Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 
 CVR: 13496188
 
 
 
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Re: Table Continuation variable in table title

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Leah,

There is no way to do this automatically with FrameMaker. If you have 
FrameScript, you could automate this with a script.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



 Good day all,

 I want to update a table format to include the Table continuation variable 
 in the table title, so it is always there when I insert this type of 
 table. I cannot seem to discover how to do this. I know that someone out 
 there has the answer

 TIA,
 Leah Smaller
 Technical Communicator
 Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Booklet function with Framemaker

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

Hi,

A simple solution would be to create a regular PDF file
and then print a booklet to a PDF file via Acrobat.

CutePDF is cheap and is able to do this:
http://www.cutepdf.com/

Best regards

Winfried 

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 Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
 Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:52 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Booklet function with Framemaker
 
 Hey
 
 Is there a plugin which enables to create a booklet with 
 Framemaker.  I
 am thinking of a function where  for example page 1 and page 62 is
 printed on one side of the paper and page 2 and page 61 on the other
 side of the paper.
 
  
 
  
 
 Best regards,
 
  
 
 Verner
 
 
 Radiometer Medical ApS 
 Akandevej 21 
 DK-2700 Bronshoj 
 Denmark 
 Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 
 CVR: 13496188
 
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Re: another table question

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Leah,

Not text per se, but since the paragraph formats for each cell are stored 
with the table format, you could use formats that have autonumbers to define 
the text you want. Here are the general steps you can use:

1) Insert a table with the desired format and the number of columns that you 
would normally use.

2) Click in each heading cell and create a paragraph format with the 
autonumber set to the text you want for each cell.

3) When you are done, open the Table Designer and click Update All.

The next time you insert one of these tables, you will get your heading 
text.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


 Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?

 TIA again,
 Leah Smaller
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 Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
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Re: another table question or automatic text in a heading row

[Leah Smaller]

I was hoping to avoid this solution, but if ya gotta, ya gotta. And guess 
what - there is a gotcha.
One of the columns is narrow, so the 2 word text wraps around. When these 2 
words are the autonumber value, they do not wrap around. They are squeezed 
onto one line and the second work overlays the first word! Any suggestions? 
FYI, I tried putting \t between the words in the autonumber field - no go.

- Original Message - 
From: Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Leah Smaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Frame Users framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 13:26
Subject: Re: another table question


 Not automatically generated words controlled directly by the table format, 
 no.

 However, you can set up a series of paragraph tags, one for each
 column, and add text to each one's Autonumbering field. If the tag is
 in the correct Heading Cell, the text will be too.

 In most cases, if you create a table, set it up with the correct tags
 in the correct columns, and then open and save the settings in Table
 Designer, the next time you create a table, the tags should show up as
 the default setup. I haven't tested this with multiple different tags,
 though, just with one tag in each column. But that's the way I'd try
 to automate it. Worst case is that you'd have to change a couple tags
 after you create the table.

 And, if you have FrameScript, you could also do the automatic words
 with a script.

 Art

 On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Leah Smaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?

 TIA again,
 Leah Smaller
 Technical Communicator
 Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own 
 discovery. (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)
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Re: another table question

[Rick Henkel]

On 5/20/08, Leah Smaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?



We use AutoText (www.siliconprairiesoftware.com) to insert certain
table formats with certain text already entered. We use it for a lot
of other things, too.

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[Accordion] Booklet function with Framemaker

[mathieu jacquet]

Hello,

Following the topic on issuing booklets from Frame (straight from Frame ou 
through Acrobat), here is an extra question: how do you (and do you have to, or 
is it the printer job?) prepare your document when the final format has been 
agreed to be an accordion booklet?

I am facing the problem today, since I have to issue a getting started guide 
in accordion format (6,5 cm x 10,5 cm), 10 pages.

Do the tools you previously mentioned (Quite Imposing / CleanPDF) have this 
kind of feature?

I am using FM 17.2 on PC.

Thanks for your help,

Mathieu.


 Subject: RE: Booklet function with Framemaker
 Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 13:49:19 +0200
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 
 Hi,
 
 A simple solution would be to create a regular PDF file
 and then print a booklet to a PDF file via Acrobat.
 
 CutePDF is cheap and is able to do this:
 http://www.cutepdf.com/
 
 Best regards
 
 Winfried 
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:52 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Booklet function with Framemaker
 
 Hey
 
 Is there a plugin which enables to create a booklet with 
 Framemaker.  I
 am thinking of a function where  for example page 1 and page 62 is
 printed on one side of the paper and page 2 and page 61 on the other
 side of the paper.
 
  
 
  
 
 Best regards,
 
  
 
 Verner
 
 
 Radiometer Medical ApS 
 Akandevej 21 
 DK-2700 Bronshoj 
 Denmark 
 Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 
 CVR: 13496188
 
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Re: [Accordion] Booklet function with Framemaker

[Art Campbell]

I believe that it does, but again, if you're having this printed
professionally and you receive specific instructions from the printer
that they want something non-standard, it is usually better to give
the printer a clean PDF file and let them do the pagination and
imposition.
That's part of their job; what you or your client is paying them to do.

That being said, an accordion fold card would use standard FM set up
of sequential pages. Page 1 is the cover and as you open the
accordion, 2,3,4, and 5 follow. Flip it over and 6,7,8,9, and 10
follow. So there isn't any unusual imposition required.

Art

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:48 AM, mathieu jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

 Following the topic on issuing booklets from Frame (straight from Frame ou 
 through Acrobat), here is an extra question: how do you (and do you have to, 
 or is it the printer job?) prepare your document when the final format has 
 been agreed to be an accordion booklet?

 I am facing the problem today, since I have to issue a getting started 
 guide in accordion format (6,5 cm x 10,5 cm), 10 pages.

 Do the tools you previously mentioned (Quite Imposing / CleanPDF) have this 
 kind of feature?

 I am using FM 17.2 on PC.

 Thanks for your help,

 Mathieu.

 
 Subject: RE: Booklet function with Framemaker
 Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 13:49:19 +0200
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

 Hi,

 A simple solution would be to create a regular PDF file
 and then print a booklet to a PDF file via Acrobat.

 CutePDF is cheap and is able to do this:
 http://www.cutepdf.com/

 Best regards

 Winfried

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 Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:52 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Booklet function with Framemaker

 Hey

 Is there a plugin which enables to create a booklet with
 Framemaker.  I
 am thinking of a function where  for example page 1 and page 62 is
 printed on one side of the paper and page 2 and page 61 on the other
 side of the paper.





 Best regards,



 Verner
 

 Radiometer Medical ApS
 Akandevej 21
 DK-2700 Bronshoj
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 Phone: +45 38 27 38 27
 CVR: 13496188
 
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Re: another table question or automatic text in a heading row

[Art Campbell]

A \t adds a tab stop which isn't going to do anything unless you also
set up a tab stop in the para tag.

See if it'll take a \r to force a return after the first word. That
should work, but it doesn't take on my system.

However, em spaces do work. Try putting a \sm or two between your
words to force a break.

Art

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Leah Smaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was hoping to avoid this solution, but if ya gotta, ya gotta. And guess
 what - there is a gotcha.
 One of the columns is narrow, so the 2 word text wraps around. When these 2
 words are the autonumber value, they do not wrap around. They are squeezed
 onto one line and the second work overlays the first word! Any suggestions?
 FYI, I tried putting \t between the words in the autonumber field - no go.

 - Original Message - From: Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Leah Smaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Frame Users framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 13:26
 Subject: Re: another table question


 Not automatically generated words controlled directly by the table format,
 no.

 However, you can set up a series of paragraph tags, one for each
 column, and add text to each one's Autonumbering field. If the tag is
 in the correct Heading Cell, the text will be too.

 In most cases, if you create a table, set it up with the correct tags
 in the correct columns, and then open and save the settings in Table
 Designer, the next time you create a table, the tags should show up as
 the default setup. I haven't tested this with multiple different tags,
 though, just with one tag in each column. But that's the way I'd try
 to automate it. Worst case is that you'd have to change a couple tags
 after you create the table.

 And, if you have FrameScript, you could also do the automatic words
 with a script.

 Art

 On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Leah Smaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?

 TIA again,
 Leah Smaller
 Technical Communicator
 Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
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Re: another table question or automatic text in a heading row

[Art Campbell]

Yup, that's a problem. Especially if you believe the doc, which says
it is valid.
Damn tech writers ;- )

Art

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 Replying to Leah Smaller, Art Campbell wrote (in part):

 See if it'll take a \r to force a return after the first word. That
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 \r is not valid in autonumber strings. I would be nice if it were...

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Ignore missing files on open not possible

[Klaus Daube]

Dear all,

After finding a note from my first FM8 experience last fall about this issue, 
I'm 
sorry to present this issue again:

FM 8.0.2 on XP SP2, 1GB RAM, plenty of disk space on both machines.

A - on the workstation everything works as expected
B - on the laptop when opening a file whose pictures can not be found,
and activating ignore this/all missing files nothing happens.
I can only close the dialog and go back to the workstation to handle
this file.

The FM files in question can be on a hard-disk, on an USB stick or an USB-disk 
- this 
does not matter. The images were on the same drive as the fm files, hence the 
paths 
found in the (binary) files are relative.

The files are FM7, hence prior to the 'missing graphics' message I get the 
message 
about changing version.

On the laptop I now have removed Acrobat stuff and FrameMaker 8 and then 
re-installed 
Acrobat 8 and FrameMaker 8, 8.0.1, 8.0.2 = no positive result.

Converting the files on the workstation to FM8 then transfer to the laptop and 
open 
them with FM8 = does not help either (problem originally occurred with FM 8 
files).

That's the end of my latin - any clues where to look for that devil?Anzeige:
www.mymemo.ch und nie mehr einen Gedanken oder Termin 
verpassen.

Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich
Technical documentation  consultancy; On-line and paper
Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78
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Re: Ignore missing files on open not possible

[Art Campbell]

Klaus,

With all respect, this looks and sounds as if it's a configuration
problem on the laptop, not a FM bug or issue. Something isn't
identical...

Are the Windows user name and group memvership set up exactly the same
on both machines? Exactly, letter / case matches?

The FM setup is the same? Can you copy maker.ini file from one to the
other and nothing breaks? (BTW, there is a 8.0.3 patch out now...)

Virus checker is the same on both systems?

Art

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Klaus Daube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear all,

 After finding a note from my first FM8 experience last fall about this issue, 
 I'm
 sorry to present this issue again:

 FM 8.0.2 on XP SP2, 1GB RAM, plenty of disk space on both machines.

 A - on the workstation everything works as expected
 B - on the laptop when opening a file whose pictures can not be found,
and activating ignore this/all missing files nothing happens.
I can only close the dialog and go back to the workstation to handle
this file.

 The FM files in question can be on a hard-disk, on an USB stick or an 
 USB-disk - this
 does not matter. The images were on the same drive as the fm files, hence the 
 paths
 found in the (binary) files are relative.

 The files are FM7, hence prior to the 'missing graphics' message I get the 
 message
 about changing version.

 On the laptop I now have removed Acrobat stuff and FrameMaker 8 and then 
 re-installed
 Acrobat 8 and FrameMaker 8, 8.0.1, 8.0.2 = no positive result.

 Converting the files on the workstation to FM8 then transfer to the laptop 
 and open
 them with FM8 = does not help either (problem originally occurred with FM 8 
 files).

 That's the end of my latin - any clues where to look for that devil?Anzeige:
 www.mymemo.ch und nie mehr einen Gedanken oder Termin
 verpassen.
 
 Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich
 Technical documentation  consultancy; On-line and paper
 Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78
 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Web: www.daube.ch/

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RE: Haven't we learnt anything about usability? [wasRe: defaultreply-to-all ]

[Combs, Richard]

Mike Bradley wrote:
 
 Actually, it doesn't give us the effect we want at all. Not that I'm
 religious
 about it, but with Reply to All, the sender of the message to which I
 reply gets
 two copies, one sent to him/her and one to the list. This doubles the
 Internet
 traffic needlessly, whereas Reply to List sends only one message.
 Sometimes, as
 with this message, it quadruples the Internet traffic, because there
were
 3 cc's
 on the posting.
 
 Personally, I find getting duplicate replies annoying and I think
sending
 them
 is rude, but if everyone who posts messages doesn't mind getting
duplicate
 replies, so be it.

You can avoid getting those duplicates by changing your list membership
settings. Log into your mailing list account using the personalized URL
at the bottom of list messages to you. Scroll down to the gray table of
list options. The last option is: 

Avoid duplicate copies of messages?

When you are listed explicitly in the To: or Cc: headers of a list
message, you can opt to not receive another copy from the mailing list.
Select Yes to avoid receiving copies from the mailing list; select No to
receive copies.

Set this to Yes and click Submit My Changes. 

HTH!
Richard 


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Re: Haven't we learnt anything about usability? [was Re: defaultreply-to-all ]

[Paul Findon]

On 19 May 2008, at 21:16, Mike Bradley wrote:

 Does this list have a moderator? Could you poll the list so that  
 we can settle
 this the democratic way?

I think Lisa Bronson took over as list mom in 2005. Before that it  
was Bradley Anderson. Neither have posted anything to this list for  
awhile.  Perhaps there are some changes going on behind the scenes  
because the frameusers.com Web site has been down for sometime.

A poll sounds good.

Lisa, Brad, Anyone?

Paul
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RE: Booklet function with Framemaker

[Dov Isaacs]

I would most strongly endorse the Quite Imposing and Quite Imposing Plus
plug-ins from Quite Software. I've been using them for a number of years
as my imposition tool of choice when not having the luxury of going out
for professional printing. The software is highly reliable and efficient
with a tremendous amount of functionality. Page imposition and booklet making
as a primary example of such imposition tasks is really something that you
should not do in a page layout / authoring tool.

- Dov

 -Original Message-
 From: Jacob Schäffer
 Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:06 AM

 Hello Verner,

 I'm not sure there is a Plug-in for Framemaker that does it, but Quite 
 Imposing (Plus) is a simple-to-
 use tool that creates booklets with PDF documents, see 
 http://www.quite.com/imposing/index.htm.

 Best regards / Med venlig hilsen
 Jacob Schäffer  |  Chief Developer

  -Oprindelig meddelelse-
  Fra: Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
  Sendt: 20. maj 2008 12:52
 
  Hey
 
  Is there a plugin which enables to create a booklet with
  Framemaker.  I am thinking of a function where  for example
  page 1 and page 62 is printed on one side of the paper and
  page 2 and page 61 on the other side of the paper.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Verner
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RE: Haven't we learnt anything about usability? [wasRe: defaultreply-to-all ]

[Matt Sullivan]

Lisa Bronson is now Lisa Gielczyk (like SpellCheck, as she says)

Or so says the business card she handed me last summer. Which is the only
way I would have been able to get the spelling right.

I don't believe she still has a hand in moderation.

Sent via reply to all with little effort, but great anxiety about the
political and usability ramifications. 

-Matt Sullivan

 

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An Adobe Authorized Training Center

www.grafixtraining.com

888 882-2819 

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To: Framers
Subject: Re: Haven't we learnt anything about usability? [wasRe:
defaultreply-to-all ]

On 19 May 2008, at 21:16, Mike Bradley wrote:

 Does this list have a moderator? Could you poll the list so that  
 we can settle
 this the democratic way?

I think Lisa Bronson took over as list mom in 2005. Before that it  
was Bradley Anderson. Neither have posted anything to this list for  
awhile.  Perhaps there are some changes going on behind the scenes  
because the frameusers.com Web site has been down for sometime.

A poll sounds good.

Lisa, Brad, Anyone?

Paul
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Ann: GlossBase Available for Download - A free application for generating glossaries

[martin . smith]

GolehTek, LLC is pleased to announce the release of GlossBase Personal  
Edition, a freely-available application that greatly enhances the  
glossary features of Adobe FrameMaker.

GlossBase allows you to define glossary terms using an unlimited  
number of paragraphs, tables, graphics, and equations. GlossBase  
encodes terms and definitions in XML and stores them in a database.

When you  are ready to generate a glossary for a FrameMaker book,  
GlossBase compares every word combination from your FrameMaker  
chapters against the database and automatically builds a glossary of  
relevant terms.

If you are using WebWorks ePublisher Pro, GlossBase can also insert  
the markers and apply the character formats necessary for glossary  
definitions to automatically appear in a pop-up window in the on-line  
help.

GlossBase is compatible with FrameMaker versions 7.x and above.  
GlossBase also requires FrameScript version 4.1 or later.

GlossBase is available for download from the Free Scripts section of  
the GolehTek web site at http://www.golehtek.com.

Best regards,

Martin

Martin R. Smith
GolehTek, LLC

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TimeSavers

[obair81]

I am looking into asking our IT department to buy TimeSavers, the FrameMaker 
plugin.

Does anyone on this list use this product?  If so, could you email me through 
the list or directly and let me know how you are using it and your thoughts 
about the product?

Our IT budget is, well, wee, and I need to be able to truly justify new 
purchases.

Thanks.

best,
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Re: RE turkish sortorder

[Milan Davidovic]

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Anneke von den Hoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Ann,
 Thank you very much for the example.
 I have implemented your example in my document and it works fine!

My inbox does not show the response to which you refer; I've got a
similar problem with Danish.

Can we have responses to such questions ON the list, please?

Many thanks...

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http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
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RE: TimeSavers

[Linda G. Gallagher]

I use it to do two main things, but I know it can do more:

- Collapse bookmarks so only the chapter titles show

- Make sure the file opens to the first page of the PDF

I'll add that the TimeSavers menu in FM and GUI interface in the latest
version make using it a breeze. I had an older version that was not quite as
enjoyable to use.

[Just a satisfied customer.]


~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
WebWorks ePublisher templates




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Subject: TimeSavers

I am looking into asking our IT department to buy TimeSavers, the FrameMaker
plugin.

Does anyone on this list use this product?  If so, could you email me
through the list or directly and let me know how you are using it and your
thoughts about the product?

Our IT budget is, well, wee, and I need to be able to truly justify new
purchases.

Thanks.

best,
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Solution: Thai Docs/Font problem in FM8

[Susan . Corcoran]

I have found that the Thai fonts AngsanaNew and Angsana UPC, which were 
supported in FM7, are not supported in FM8.
I was able to download a free Thai font, DBThai, which is supported by 
FM8.  Replacing all Angsana fonts with DBThai fixed the problem.

~
Susan A. Corcoran
Honeywell Imaging and Mobility
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Susan Corcoran/DCD/Skan/WelchAllyn 
Sent by: Susan Corcoran
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Subject
Thai Docs/Font problem in FM8





Hi All,

I'm running FM8.0p273 on WinXP.  I have a couple of Thai documents that 
were created with an AngsanaUPC font.  In Frame 7, they show up fine and 
can be manipulated, printed, etc.  In Frame 8, the characters turn to 
garbage.  This happens on my laptop as well as another machine.  I've 
tried reapplying the font and changing it to Angsana New, but nothing 
works.  I took an old laptop and loaded Frame 7 onto it, and the Thai 
documents open fine.  Has anyone else seen this problem in Frame 8 or know 
how to fix it?
TIA.
(I'm on digest, so please apply directly.  I'll post to the list if a fix 
is found.)

~
Susan A. Corcoran
Honeywell Imaging and Mobility
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Re: RE turkish sortorder

[Milan Davidovic]

Problem solved; the answer is in the User Guide, and it's fairly
clear. I had to look up the Danish alphabet, then use it on the
reference page to re-order the index group titles and to replace the
$alphabetics building block.

Of course, if someone knows an easier way I could have done this, or
knows of any pitfalls inherent in changing sort order (other than the
obvious one of getting the order wrong), you response would be
helpful.

Thanks again...   Milan


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 Thank you very much for the example.
 I have implemented your example in my document and it works fine!

 My inbox does not show the response to which you refer; I've got a
 similar problem with Danish.
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Re: Booklet function with Framemaker

[Stuart Rogers]

Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote:
 Hey
 
 Is there a plugin which enables to create a booklet with Framemaker.  I
 am thinking of a function where  for example page 1 and page 62 is
 printed on one side of the paper and page 2 and page 61 on the other
 side of the paper.
 

I use Clickbook from bluesquirrel.com for page imposition -- but my 
needs are quite restricted, and all my printing is done in-house.  I 
also don't need to use EPS graphics, which Clickbook does not support.


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Phoenix Geophysics Limited
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Re: roundtrip documentation and help (Framemaker/Robohelp - chicken or egg?

[Ben Hechter]

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Table Continuation variable in table title

[Leah Smaller]

Good day all,

I want to update a table format to include the Table continuation variable in 
the table title, so it is always there when I insert this type of table. I 
cannot seem to discover how to do this. I know that someone out there has the 
answer

TIA,
Leah Smaller
Technical Communicator
Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
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"What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own discovery." 
(Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)

Problems when exporting to PDF from FM8

[Diane Gaskill]

I am seeing the same errors, except that I print to PS using "Adobe PDF" and
then distill to PDF.   Headings, headers, and footers are sometimes munged,
but only during the first few pages of the file. the errors show up on the
screen as well as in print.

First, I'm going to update FM to 8.03 and then reprint to PS and distill.

I'm going to change the font and see if that fixes the problem. All of the
munged items use Tahoma. I'll also try changing the job options settings,
like embedding the fonts and see if that changes anything.

Meanwhile, if any of you know a fix or a workaround for this, I'd appreciate
it if you would post iot to the list.

Thanks,

Diane Gaskill

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Combs, Richard
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:12 AM
To: Erin Huff; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Problems when exporting to PDF from FM8


Erin Huff wrote:

> I have found a problem with exporting a FM8 book to PDF.
> When I export/save as PDF and then open the file in Acrobat I will
usually
> find that some of my information (Headers, table rows, variables,
etc...)
> are missing from my PDF, even though they are present in the FM8 file.
> I always update and save the book and all included files before
exporting.
> I have tried exporting to PDF every single way I can from FM and it
will
> not export all the information.
> I have the latest updates for FM8.
> Am using Distiller 7.0 and Acrobat Professional 7.0
> The last time I tried to PDF I spend over thirty minutes trying to PDF
and
> finally had to have a coworker PDF for me.
> Does anyone know of a way to solve this?

Is your coworker successfully creating PDFs from the books that give you
trouble? Then you need to analyze what the differences are between your
setup and your coworker's.

Are there any errors recorded in the log files?

It could be a font problem. Go to Distiller's Adobe PDF Settings dialog,
Fonts page, and make sure that it's set to embed fonts. And set When
embedding fails to Cancel job. That way, if it's a missing (or
unembeddable) font, at least you'll know. :-)

HTH!
Richard


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Booklet function with Framemaker

[Andersen, Verner Engell VEA]

Hey

Is there a plugin which enables to create a booklet with Framemaker.  I
am thinking of a function where  for example page 1 and page 62 is
printed on one side of the paper and page 2 and page 61 on the other
side of the paper.





Best regards,



Verner


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Denmark 
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Fwd: Booklet function with Framemaker

[Art Campbell]

The usual way to do this is to paginate the file normally and print
the file to PDF. Then use pre-press tools such as Quite Imposing
(there are many others that do the same thing) to set up the
imposition pattern. Note that it is a pre-press tool.

Most FM users can get into trouble with this if they're doing the work
for a commercial printer because the printer knows his equipment and
its required workflow better than the author. Because the author
doesn't work with the printer's equipment and is attempting to do a
job for which they aren't qualified, the author is likely to create
more work for the printer instead of less.

It's probably safe if you're designing a booklet that you think
someone would download from a www site and print on a home printer or
if you're printing a few copies for yourself on your own printer. But
even there you're likely to create a file that many people can't print
accurately because printer drivers print multi-page duplex files in
different ways. Again, unless you know the equipment and software in
use, it's hard to predict the right imposition pattern.

Cheers,
Art

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 6:51 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
 wrote:
> Hey
>
> Is there a plugin which enables to create a booklet with Framemaker.  I
> am thinking of a function where  for example page 1 and page 62 is
> printed on one side of the paper and page 2 and page 61 on the other
> side of the paper.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Verner
> 
>
> Radiometer Medical ApS
> Akandevej 21
> DK-2700 Bronshoj
> Denmark
> Phone: +45 38 27 38 27
> CVR: 13496188
> 
>
>
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Booklet function with Framemaker

[Jacob Schäffer]

Hello Verner,

I'm not sure there is a Plug-in for Framemaker that does it, but Quite Imposing 
(Plus) is a simple-to-use tool that creates booklets with PDF documents, see 
http://www.quite.com/imposing/index.htm.

Best regards / Med venlig hilsen
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DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark
Phone: +45 4439 4400
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> Emne: Booklet function with Framemaker
> 
> 
> Hey
> 
> Is there a plugin which enables to create a booklet with 
> Framemaker.  I am thinking of a function where  for example 
> page 1 and page 62 is printed on one side of the paper and 
> page 2 and page 61 on the other side of the paper.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Verner
> 
> 
> Radiometer Medical ApS 
> Akandevej 21 
> DK-2700 Bronshoj 
> Denmark 
> Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 
> CVR: 13496188
> 
> 
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another table question

[Leah Smaller]

Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format? 

TIA again,
Leah Smaller
Technical Communicator
Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
leah at compulite.com

"What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own discovery." 
(Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)

Table Continuation variable in table title

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Leah,

There is no way to do this automatically with FrameMaker. If you have 
FrameScript, you could automate this with a script.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



> Good day all,
>
> I want to update a table format to include the Table continuation variable 
> in the table title, so it is always there when I insert this type of 
> table. I cannot seem to discover how to do this. I know that someone out 
> there has the answer
>
> TIA,
> Leah Smaller
> Technical Communicator
> Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
> leah at compulite.com
>

Booklet function with Framemaker

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

Hi,

A simple solution would be to create a regular PDF file
and then print a booklet to a PDF file via Acrobat.

CutePDF is cheap and is able to do this:
http://www.cutepdf.com/

Best regards

Winfried 

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:52 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Booklet function with Framemaker
> 
> Hey
> 
> Is there a plugin which enables to create a booklet with 
> Framemaker.  I
> am thinking of a function where  for example page 1 and page 62 is
> printed on one side of the paper and page 2 and page 61 on the other
> side of the paper.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Verner
> 
> 
> Radiometer Medical ApS 
> Akandevej 21 
> DK-2700 Bronshoj 
> Denmark 
> Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 
> CVR: 13496188
> 

another table question

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Leah,

Not "text" per se, but since the paragraph formats for each cell are stored 
with the table format, you could use formats that have autonumbers to define 
the text you want. Here are the general steps you can use:

1) Insert a table with the desired format and the number of columns that you 
would normally use.

2) Click in each heading cell and create a paragraph format with the 
autonumber set to the text you want for each cell.

3) When you are done, open the Table Designer and click Update All.

The next time you insert one of these tables, you will get your heading 
text.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?
>
> TIA again,
> Leah Smaller
> Technical Communicator
> Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
> leah at compulite.com
>

another table question or automatic text in a heading row

[Leah Smaller]

I was hoping to avoid this solution, but if ya gotta, ya gotta. And guess 
what - there is a gotcha.
One of the columns is narrow, so the 2 word text wraps around. When these 2 
words are the autonumber value, they do not wrap around. They are squeezed 
onto one line and the second work overlays the first word! Any suggestions? 
FYI, I tried putting \t between the words in the autonumber field - no go.

- Original Message - 
From: "Art Campbell" 
To: "Leah Smaller" 
Cc: "Frame Users" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 13:26
Subject: Re: another table question


> Not automatically generated words controlled directly by the table format, 
> no.
>
> However, you can set up a series of paragraph tags, one for each
> column, and add text to each one's Autonumbering field. If the tag is
> in the correct Heading Cell, the text will be too.
>
> In most cases, if you create a table, set it up with the correct tags
> in the correct columns, and then open and save the settings in Table
> Designer, the next time you create a table, the tags should show up as
> the default setup. I haven't tested this with multiple different tags,
> though, just with one tag in each column. But that's the way I'd try
> to automate it. Worst case is that you'd have to change a couple tags
> after you create the table.
>
> And, if you have FrameScript, you could also do the automatic words
> with a script.
>
> Art
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Leah Smaller  wrote:
>> Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?
>>
>> TIA again,
>> Leah Smaller
>> Technical Communicator
>> Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
>> leah at compulite.com
>>
>> "What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own 
>> discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)
>> ___
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
> "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
> No disclaimers apply.
> DoD 358 

another table question

[Rick Henkel]

On 5/20/08, Leah Smaller  wrote:
> Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?



We use AutoText (www.siliconprairiesoftware.com) to insert certain
table formats with certain text already entered. We use it for a lot
of other things, too.

-- 
Rick Henkel
http://rickhenkel.googlepages.com/index.htm

[Accordion] Booklet function with Framemaker

[mathieu jacquet]

Hello,

Following the topic on issuing booklets from Frame (straight from Frame ou 
through Acrobat), here is an extra question: how do you (and do you have to, or 
is it the printer job?) prepare your document when the final format has been 
agreed to be an accordion booklet?

I am facing the problem today, since I have to issue a "getting started guide" 
in accordion format (6,5 cm x 10,5 cm), 10 pages.

Do the tools you previously mentioned (Quite Imposing / CleanPDF) have this 
kind of feature?

I am using FM 17.2 on PC.

Thanks for your help,

Mathieu.


> Subject: RE: Booklet function with Framemaker
> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 13:49:19 +0200
> From: wreng at tycoint.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> Hi,
> 
> A simple solution would be to create a regular PDF file
> and then print a booklet to a PDF file via Acrobat.
> 
> CutePDF is cheap and is able to do this:
> http://www.cutepdf.com/
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Winfried 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
>> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:52 PM
>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Booklet function with Framemaker
>> 
>> Hey
>> 
>> Is there a plugin which enables to create a booklet with 
>> Framemaker.  I
>> am thinking of a function where  for example page 1 and page 62 is
>> printed on one side of the paper and page 2 and page 61 on the other
>> side of the paper.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Verner
>> 
>> 
>> Radiometer Medical ApS 
>> Akandevej 21 
>> DK-2700 Bronshoj 
>> Denmark 
>> Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 
>> CVR: 13496188
>> 
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[Accordion] Booklet function with Framemaker

[Art Campbell]

I believe that it does, but again, if you're having this printed
professionally and you receive specific instructions from the printer
that they want something non-standard, it is usually better to give
the printer a clean PDF file and let them do the pagination and
imposition.
That's part of their job; what you or your client is paying them to do.

That being said, an accordion fold card would use standard FM set up
of sequential pages. Page 1 is the cover and as you open the
accordion, 2,3,4, and 5 follow. Flip it over and 6,7,8,9, and 10
follow. So there isn't any unusual imposition required.

Art

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:48 AM, mathieu jacquet  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Following the topic on issuing booklets from Frame (straight from Frame ou 
> through Acrobat), here is an extra question: how do you (and do you have to, 
> or is it the printer job?) prepare your document when the final format has 
> been agreed to be an accordion booklet?
>
> I am facing the problem today, since I have to issue a "getting started 
> guide" in accordion format (6,5 cm x 10,5 cm), 10 pages.
>
> Do the tools you previously mentioned (Quite Imposing / CleanPDF) have this 
> kind of feature?
>
> I am using FM 17.2 on PC.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Mathieu.
>
> 
>> Subject: RE: Booklet function with Framemaker
>> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 13:49:19 +0200
>> From: wreng at tycoint.com
>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> A simple solution would be to create a regular PDF file
>> and then print a booklet to a PDF file via Acrobat.
>>
>> CutePDF is cheap and is able to do this:
>> http://www.cutepdf.com/
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Winfried
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
>>> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:52 PM
>>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>>> Subject: Booklet function with Framemaker
>>>
>>> Hey
>>>
>>> Is there a plugin which enables to create a booklet with
>>> Framemaker.  I
>>> am thinking of a function where  for example page 1 and page 62 is
>>> printed on one side of the paper and page 2 and page 61 on the other
>>> side of the paper.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Verner
>>> 
>>>
>>> Radiometer Medical ApS
>>> Akandevej 21
>>> DK-2700 Bronshoj
>>> Denmark
>>> Phone: +45 38 27 38 27
>>> CVR: 13496188
>>> 
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another table question or automatic text in a heading row

[Art Campbell]

A \t adds a tab stop which isn't going to do anything unless you also
set up a tab stop in the para tag.

See if it'll take a \r to force a return after the first word. That
should work, but it doesn't take on my system.

However, em spaces do work. Try putting a \sm or two between your
words to force a break.

Art

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Leah Smaller  wrote:
> I was hoping to avoid this solution, but if ya gotta, ya gotta. And guess
> what - there is a gotcha.
> One of the columns is narrow, so the 2 word text wraps around. When these 2
> words are the autonumber value, they do not wrap around. They are squeezed
> onto one line and the second work overlays the first word! Any suggestions?
> FYI, I tried putting \t between the words in the autonumber field - no go.
>
> - Original Message - From: "Art Campbell" 
> To: "Leah Smaller" 
> Cc: "Frame Users" 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 13:26
> Subject: Re: another table question
>
>
>> Not automatically generated words controlled directly by the table format,
>> no.
>>
>> However, you can set up a series of paragraph tags, one for each
>> column, and add text to each one's Autonumbering field. If the tag is
>> in the correct Heading Cell, the text will be too.
>>
>> In most cases, if you create a table, set it up with the correct tags
>> in the correct columns, and then open and save the settings in Table
>> Designer, the next time you create a table, the tags should show up as
>> the default setup. I haven't tested this with multiple different tags,
>> though, just with one tag in each column. But that's the way I'd try
>> to automate it. Worst case is that you'd have to change a couple tags
>> after you create the table.
>>
>> And, if you have FrameScript, you could also do the automatic words
>> with a script.
>>
>> Art
>>
>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Leah Smaller  wrote:
>>>
>>> Is it possible to include text for heading rows in the table format?
>>>
>>> TIA again,
>>> Leah Smaller
>>> Technical Communicator
>>> Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
>>> leah at compulite.com
>>>
>>> "What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own
>>> discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)
>>> ___
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
>> "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
>> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>> No disclaimers apply.
>> DoD 358
>
>



-- 
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 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

another table question or automatic text in a heading row

[Fred Ridder]

Replying to Leah Smaller, Art Campbell wrote (in part):
> See if it'll take a \r to force a return after the first word. That
> should work, but it doesn't take on my system.

\r is not valid in autonumber strings. I would be nice if it were...

-FR




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another table question or automatic text in a heading row

[Art Campbell]

Yup, that's a problem. Especially if you believe the doc, which says
it is valid.
Damn tech writers ;- )

Art

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Fred Ridder  wrote:
> Replying to Leah Smaller, Art Campbell wrote (in part):
>
>> See if it'll take a \r to force a return after the first word. That
>> should work, but it doesn't take on my system.
>
> \r is not valid in autonumber strings. I would be nice if it were...
>
> -FR
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

Ignore missing files on open not possible

[Klaus Daube]

Dear all,

After finding a note from my first FM8 experience last fall about this issue, 
I'm 
sorry to present this issue again:

FM 8.0.2 on XP SP2, 1GB RAM, plenty of disk space on both machines.

A - on the workstation everything works as expected
B - on the laptop when opening a file whose pictures can not be found,
and activating "ignore this/all missing files" nothing happens.
I can only close the dialog and go back to the workstation to handle
this file.

The FM files in question can be on a hard-disk, on an USB stick or an USB-disk 
- this 
does not matter. The images were on the same drive as the fm files, hence the 
paths 
found in the (binary) files are relative.

The files are FM7, hence prior to the 'missing graphics' message I get the 
message 
about changing version.

On the laptop I now have removed Acrobat stuff and FrameMaker 8 and then 
re-installed 
Acrobat 8 and FrameMaker 8, 8.0.1, 8.0.2 => no positive result.

Converting the files on the workstation to FM8 then transfer to the laptop and 
open 
them with FM8 => does not help either (problem originally occurred with FM 8 
files).

That's the end of my latin - any clues where to look for that devil?Anzeige:
www.mymemo.ch und nie mehr einen Gedanken oder Termin 
verpassen.

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Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78
E-mail: ddd at daube.ch  Web: www.daube.ch/

Ignore missing files on open not possible

[Art Campbell]

Klaus,

With all respect, this looks and sounds as if it's a configuration
problem on the laptop, not a FM bug or issue. Something isn't
identical...

Are the Windows user name and group memvership set up exactly the same
on both machines? Exactly, letter / case matches?

The FM setup is the same? Can you copy maker.ini file from one to the
other and nothing breaks? (BTW, there is a 8.0.3 patch out now...)

Virus checker is the same on both systems?

Art

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Klaus Daube  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> After finding a note from my first FM8 experience last fall about this issue, 
> I'm
> sorry to present this issue again:
>
> FM 8.0.2 on XP SP2, 1GB RAM, plenty of disk space on both machines.
>
> A - on the workstation everything works as expected
> B - on the laptop when opening a file whose pictures can not be found,
>and activating "ignore this/all missing files" nothing happens.
>I can only close the dialog and go back to the workstation to handle
>this file.
>
> The FM files in question can be on a hard-disk, on an USB stick or an 
> USB-disk - this
> does not matter. The images were on the same drive as the fm files, hence the 
> paths
> found in the (binary) files are relative.
>
> The files are FM7, hence prior to the 'missing graphics' message I get the 
> message
> about changing version.
>
> On the laptop I now have removed Acrobat stuff and FrameMaker 8 and then 
> re-installed
> Acrobat 8 and FrameMaker 8, 8.0.1, 8.0.2 => no positive result.
>
> Converting the files on the workstation to FM8 then transfer to the laptop 
> and open
> them with FM8 => does not help either (problem originally occurred with FM 8 
> files).
>
> That's the end of my latin - any clues where to look for that devil?Anzeige:
> www.mymemo.ch und nie mehr einen Gedanken oder Termin
> verpassen.
> 
> Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich
> Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
> Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78
> E-mail: ddd at daube.ch  Web: www.daube.ch/
>
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 No disclaimers apply.
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Haven't we learnt anything about usability? [was"Re: default"reply-to-all" "]

[Combs, Richard]

Mike Bradley wrote:

> Actually, it doesn't give us the effect we want at all. Not that I'm
> religious
> about it, but with Reply to All, the sender of the message to which I
> reply gets
> two copies, one sent to him/her and one to the list. This doubles the
> Internet
> traffic needlessly, whereas Reply to List sends only one message.
> Sometimes, as
> with this message, it quadruples the Internet traffic, because there
were
> 3 cc's
> on the posting.
> 
> Personally, I find getting duplicate replies annoying and I think
sending
> them
> is rude, but if everyone who posts messages doesn't mind getting
duplicate
> replies, so be it.

You can avoid getting those duplicates by changing your list membership
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Haven't we learnt anything about usability? [was "Re: default"reply-to-all" "]

[Paul Findon]

On 19 May 2008, at 21:16, Mike Bradley wrote:

>> Does this list have a moderator? Could you poll the list so that  
>> we can settle
> this the democratic way?

I think Lisa Bronson took over as list mom in 2005. Before that it  
was Bradley Anderson. Neither have posted anything to this list for  
awhile.  Perhaps there are some changes going on behind the scenes  
because the frameusers.com Web site has been down for sometime.

A poll sounds good.

Lisa, Brad, Anyone?

Paul

Booklet function with Framemaker

[Dov Isaacs]

I would most strongly endorse the Quite Imposing and Quite Imposing Plus
plug-ins from Quite Software. I've been using them for a number of years
as my imposition tool of choice when not having the luxury of going out
for professional printing. The software is highly reliable and efficient
with a tremendous amount of functionality. Page imposition and booklet making
as a primary example of such imposition tasks is really something that you
should not do in a page layout / authoring tool.

- Dov

> -Original Message-
> From: Jacob Sch?ffer
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:06 AM
>
> Hello Verner,
>
> I'm not sure there is a Plug-in for Framemaker that does it, but Quite 
> Imposing (Plus) is a simple-to-
> use tool that creates booklets with PDF documents, see 
> http://www.quite.com/imposing/index.htm.
>
> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen
> Jacob Sch?ffer  |  Chief Developer
>
> > -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> > Fra: Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
> > Sendt: 20. maj 2008 12:52
> >
> > Hey
> >
> > Is there a plugin which enables to create a booklet with
> > Framemaker.  I am thinking of a function where  for example
> > page 1 and page 62 is printed on one side of the paper and
> > page 2 and page 61 on the other side of the paper.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Verner

Haven't we learnt anything about usability? [was"Re: default"reply-to-all" "]

[Matt Sullivan]

Lisa Bronson is now Lisa Gielczyk (like "SpellCheck, as she says)

Or so says the business card she handed me last summer. Which is the only
way I would have been able to get the spelling right.

I don't believe she still has a hand in moderation.

Sent via "reply to all" with little effort, but great anxiety about the
political and usability ramifications. 

-Matt Sullivan



GRAFIX Training, Inc.

An Adobe Authorized Training Center

www.grafixtraining.com

888 882-2819 

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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Paul Findon
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 8:13 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Re: Haven't we learnt anything about usability? [was"Re:
default"reply-to-all" "]

On 19 May 2008, at 21:16, Mike Bradley wrote:

>> Does this list have a moderator? Could you poll the list so that  
>> we can settle
> this the democratic way?

I think Lisa Bronson took over as list mom in 2005. Before that it  
was Bradley Anderson. Neither have posted anything to this list for  
awhile.  Perhaps there are some changes going on behind the scenes  
because the frameusers.com Web site has been down for sometime.

A poll sounds good.

Lisa, Brad, Anyone?

Paul
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how to get list of variables and values

[Karene Millar]

Does anyone know of a way to get a complete list (text is fine) of all
the variables in a FM file and their values?

I'm using FM 7.1

Thank you!

Karene

Conditional Text Just Won't Go Away

[Jona Steenbrink]

Disclaimer: I apologize if this message appears on the list twice. The  
first time I sent it, I did not use the email address that is  
registered with framers.


Hi.

FM  8.0p273
Windows XP (running on parallels on a Mac)

I am fast approaching the end of my tether working with conditional  
text.

FM won't let me make some segments of text unconditional. In fact,  
when I try to remove the conditional tag, the text turns bright green  
with a strikethrough effect. What's more... when I try again, it's now  
bright red with a strikethrough effect. And, (hullo, what's this?) now  
it's bright red with a strikethrough effect and a change bar.

All three conditions in the document are set to Style: As Is, and  
three different colors (green, olive, and magenta).

I cannot make this text unconditional.  Selecting (or deselecting)  
Special > Conditional Text > Show Conditional Text at the document  
level or the book level affects all of the conditionally tagged  
paragraphs except for these red, struck through, paragraphs.

What's going on? Is it FM telling me that I'm doing something very  
wrong? I've looked at the FM documentation, and it's giving me  
nothing. Does anyone have any idea what might be happening here?

Update: I also cannot copy and paste any of the affected text. If I  
select it, ctrl+c and then ctrl+v somewhere else, it won't paste.  
Although I can Edit > Undo Paste. Go figure. Is it possible that these  
segments of text have, through some action or combination of actions,  
become hopelessly corrupted? Is that even possible?

Thanks,

Jona Steenbrink