Re: Black frame on OLE objects in PDF

2008-05-27 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Alison,

I didn't receive any replies to this post (or I must have missed them), 
so I don't have a solution yet.

Fortunately, I don't use Excel OLE objects often in Frame (only in 
tables where I need the Excel formulas). My current workaround is to 
select the black frame in the PDF file and delete it (using Acrobat 3D 8).


Yves Barbion 
Managing Director
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
www.scripto.nu




Alison Carrico wrote:
 Hi Yves: 

 I am experiencing the same issue with an Excel OLE object  was
 wondering whether you ever found a solution to this vexing problem.  I
 have a doc that has been translated from English to French  the Excel
 tables were edited to insert the translated material. The original
 English version of the file prints perfectly, but if I edit the Excel
 objects in either language I get the black frame you described. 

 I would be most grateful for any insight you can offer.

 Thanks very much!
 Alison 



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 Subject: Black frame on OLE objects in PDF

 Hi Framers,

 I include a part of a spreadsheet in FrameMaker as OLE object (copy in 
 Excel, paste link in FM). When I create a PDF, a black frame is placed 
 on top of the OLE object in my PDF file.

 Is this a known bug?

 I've tested this with FrameMaker 7.2p158 + Acrobat Distiller 6.0 and 
 FrameMaker 8, both with the same results.

 Any ideas?

   
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RE: Of Templates and Legacy Docs

2008-05-27 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Whoa, Will! I'm not saying unequivocally they won't. It is a distinct
possibility because the company really is not penurious. But part of the
question is timing and part of it is picking what you ask for. We've got
a big software upgrade purchase going through the channels for myself
and a colleague, and I don't want to do anything right now that might
derail or delay that. Template Mapper may be an option, but I'm
operating under the assumption that now is not the right moment to ask.
I phrased the question as I did because I didn't want to get hung up on
something that very well might not happen now when other options could
be available. The responses that have come have borne out some very
useful possibilities.

Not so grumpy after a long weekend :)
Jim

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Subject: Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs

Jim -
So my understanding is that the company you work for will not spring for
$200 for SW that will end up saving you dozens of hours of grunt work
and the company possibly thousands of dollars in your salary.
For discussion's sake, let's say buy Template Mapper with your own
funds, use it for this project, and uninstall it when you leave to go to
a wiser and less penurious employer.
Unless your children are truly going to do without milk and shoes, I'd
say spend the $200.

Feeling rather grumpy this Friday afternoon,

Will White
ViaLogy LLC

On May 23, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Pinkham, Jim wrote:

 Hello, all --

 I've just spent a couple of days getting our standard manual template 
 tweaked and polished and localized from its timeworn Germanic origins 
 (we inherited from our corporate parent across the pond). Now the task

 is to begin applying the template to new docs that are often based 
 upon old manuals that used the old template. Looks like Template 
 Mapper would be perfect for the task, but let's assume that no matter 
 how wise and cost-effective and practical it might be, that $200 is 
 not an option in the near future. So let's not go there. We'll just 
 postulate that's a good idea, and leave it at that. For discussion's 
 sake, this is a $0 project.

 The question is this: Just using the normal set of tools that comes 
 with Frame (7.1 on Windows XP SP-2), and possibly freeware, what is 
 the fastest, most effective way to migrate a new template into old 
 docs. Am I doomed to paragraph-by-paragraph, table-by-table, and 
 cell-by-cell transformations? Or are there better alternatives?

 Jim
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Re: Conditional text xref problem - P276 REGRESSION

2008-05-27 Thread Art Campbell
They released a patch today to patch the patch. 8.0.4 is supposed to
fix 8.0.3...

Art

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Adam Schweitzer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 p276 definately seems to be causing this issue - as when I restored the
 p273 backup files, the problem goes away (still, leaving the xrefs that
 the p276 mangled unresolved - but at least no new ones are wrecked).

 I'm disappointed in Adobe for this..

 

 From: Adam Schweitzer
 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:17 PM
 To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
 Subject: Conditional text xref problem - regression in FM8 p276?


 I am having a problem with xrefs to conditional text (where the xref
 also has the same condition applied).  What happens is, after changing
 the conditional text settings (just what is shown), saving, and then
 opening the document, the xrefs become unresolved.
 Steps:
 Initial setup - Document with two conditions - English and French, with
 English xrefs pointing to English text, and French xrefs pointing to
 French text.  No unresolved xrefs.
 1) Hide French text using special-Conditional text-Show/hide
 conditional text
 (Check for unresolved xrefs - none found)
 2) Show both English and French, as before
 (Check for unresolved xrefs - none found)
 3) Save document, close and re-open.
 Get pop-up message saying unresolved xrefs.  The French ones are
 unresolved.
 (NB: The affected xrefs point to paragraph tags.  Other xrefs which
 point to elements are unaffected).

 This behaviour only occurs on one machine in our office - and that
 machine is the only one that happens to have p276 (rest are still on
 p273) installed.  I'm wondering if anyone has seen this before?  Is this
 a problem introduced by p276, or is something else going on here?

 Thanks,
 Adam Schweitzer
 Orenda Aerospace Corporation
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RE: Conditional text xref problem - P276 REGRESSION

2008-05-27 Thread Adam Schweitzer
p276 definately seems to be causing this issue - as when I restored the
p273 backup files, the problem goes away (still, leaving the xrefs that
the p276 mangled unresolved - but at least no new ones are wrecked).
 
I'm disappointed in Adobe for this..



From: Adam Schweitzer 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:17 PM
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: Conditional text xref problem - regression in FM8 p276?


I am having a problem with xrefs to conditional text (where the xref
also has the same condition applied).  What happens is, after changing
the conditional text settings (just what is shown), saving, and then
opening the document, the xrefs become unresolved.
Steps:
Initial setup - Document with two conditions - English and French, with
English xrefs pointing to English text, and French xrefs pointing to
French text.  No unresolved xrefs.
1) Hide French text using special-Conditional text-Show/hide
conditional text
(Check for unresolved xrefs - none found)
2) Show both English and French, as before
(Check for unresolved xrefs - none found)
3) Save document, close and re-open.
Get pop-up message saying unresolved xrefs.  The French ones are
unresolved.
(NB: The affected xrefs point to paragraph tags.  Other xrefs which
point to elements are unaffected).
 
This behaviour only occurs on one machine in our office - and that
machine is the only one that happens to have p276 (rest are still on
p273) installed.  I'm wondering if anyone has seen this before?  Is this
a problem introduced by p276, or is something else going on here?
 
Thanks,
Adam Schweitzer
Orenda Aerospace Corporation
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FrameMaker v8.0.4 (p277)

2008-05-27 Thread Doug Cuff
According to the readme, patch 277 contains one fix:

=-=-=

Adobe  nbsp;FrameMaker  nbsp;8.0.4 ReadMe nbsp;

This update resolves the critical issue found in FM 8.0.3.

After installing FM 8.0.3 ,CrossRef marker present in Framemaker file is 
deleted during Show/Hide
condition because of which Cross-reference gets unresolved.

=-=-

In the meantime, some of the bugs fixed in 8.0.3 are still very much with me. 
For example, Next
Pgf Tag is still broken when the paragraph tag has no text in it except for the 
autonumbering.

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Black frame on OLE objects in PDF

2008-05-27 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Alison,

I didn't receive any replies to this post (or I must have missed them), 
so I don't have a solution yet.

Fortunately, I don't use Excel OLE objects often in Frame (only in 
tables where I need the Excel formulas). My current workaround is to 
select the black frame in the PDF file and delete it (using Acrobat 3D 8).


Yves Barbion 
Managing Director
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
www.scripto.nu




Alison Carrico wrote:
> Hi Yves: 
>
> I am experiencing the same issue with an Excel OLE object & was
> wondering whether you ever found a solution to this vexing problem.  I
> have a doc that has been translated from English to French & the Excel
> tables were edited to insert the translated material. The original
> English version of the file prints perfectly, but if I edit the Excel
> objects in either language I get the black frame you described. 
>
> I would be most grateful for any insight you can offer.
>
> Thanks very much!
> Alison 
>
>
>
> Alison Carrico
> IDTP Manager
> Adams Globalization 
> a division of Translations.com 
> 10435 Burnet Road
> Suite 125
> Austin, TX 78758 
> t +1 512.615.5119 | f +1 512.821.1888 
> www.adamsglobalization.com  
> Celebrating 25 Years of Excellence!
>
> Adams Globalization (AG), a division of Translations.com (TDC)
> Confidentiality Notice: 
> This message and all attachments from AG-TDC are intended solely for the
> use of the addressees shown above.  They may contain confidential and/or
> proprietary trade secret information not to be disclosed to others under
> applicable law.  If you are not the intended recipient of this message,
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> framers-bounces+acarrico=adamsglobalization.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+acarrico=adamsglobalization.com at lists.frameusers
> .com] On Behalf Of Yves Barbion
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 9:01 AM
> To: Frame Users
> Subject: Black frame on OLE objects in PDF
>
> Hi Framers,
>
> I include a part of a spreadsheet in FrameMaker as OLE object (copy in 
> Excel, paste link in FM). When I create a PDF, a black frame is placed 
> on top of the OLE object in my PDF file.
>
> Is this a known bug?
>
> I've tested this with FrameMaker 7.2p158 + Acrobat Distiller 6.0 and 
> FrameMaker 8, both with the same results.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>   


Conditional text xref problem - P276 REGRESSION

2008-05-27 Thread Adam Schweitzer
p276 definately seems to be causing this issue - as when I restored the
p273 backup files, the problem goes away (still, leaving the xrefs that
the p276 mangled unresolved - but at least no new ones are wrecked).

I'm disappointed in Adobe for this..



From: Adam Schweitzer 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:17 PM
To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: Conditional text xref problem - regression in FM8 p276?


I am having a problem with xrefs to conditional text (where the xref
also has the same condition applied).  What happens is, after changing
the conditional text settings (just what is shown), saving, and then
opening the document, the xrefs become unresolved.
Steps:
Initial setup - Document with two conditions - English and French, with
English xrefs pointing to English text, and French xrefs pointing to
French text.  No unresolved xrefs.
1) Hide French text using special->Conditional text->Show/hide
conditional text
(Check for unresolved xrefs - none found)
2) Show both English and French, as before
(Check for unresolved xrefs - none found)
3) Save document, close and re-open.
Get pop-up message saying unresolved xrefs.  The French ones are
unresolved.
(NB: The affected xrefs point to paragraph tags.  Other xrefs which
point to elements are unaffected).

This behaviour only occurs on one machine in our office - and that
machine is the only one that happens to have p276 (rest are still on
p273) installed.  I'm wondering if anyone has seen this before?  Is this
a problem introduced by p276, or is something else going on here?

Thanks,
Adam Schweitzer
Orenda Aerospace Corporation


Conditional text xref problem - P276 REGRESSION

2008-05-27 Thread Art Campbell
They released a patch today to patch the patch. 8.0.4 is supposed to
fix 8.0.3...

Art

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Adam Schweitzer
 wrote:
> p276 definately seems to be causing this issue - as when I restored the
> p273 backup files, the problem goes away (still, leaving the xrefs that
> the p276 mangled unresolved - but at least no new ones are wrecked).
>
> I'm disappointed in Adobe for this..
>
> 
>
> From: Adam Schweitzer
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:17 PM
> To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
> Subject: Conditional text xref problem - regression in FM8 p276?
>
>
> I am having a problem with xrefs to conditional text (where the xref
> also has the same condition applied).  What happens is, after changing
> the conditional text settings (just what is shown), saving, and then
> opening the document, the xrefs become unresolved.
> Steps:
> Initial setup - Document with two conditions - English and French, with
> English xrefs pointing to English text, and French xrefs pointing to
> French text.  No unresolved xrefs.
> 1) Hide French text using special->Conditional text->Show/hide
> conditional text
> (Check for unresolved xrefs - none found)
> 2) Show both English and French, as before
> (Check for unresolved xrefs - none found)
> 3) Save document, close and re-open.
> Get pop-up message saying unresolved xrefs.  The French ones are
> unresolved.
> (NB: The affected xrefs point to paragraph tags.  Other xrefs which
> point to elements are unaffected).
>
> This behaviour only occurs on one machine in our office - and that
> machine is the only one that happens to have p276 (rest are still on
> p273) installed.  I'm wondering if anyone has seen this before?  Is this
> a problem introduced by p276, or is something else going on here?
>
> Thanks,
> Adam Schweitzer
> Orenda Aerospace Corporation
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Of Templates and Legacy Docs

2008-05-27 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Whoa, Will! I'm not saying unequivocally they won't. It is a distinct
possibility because the company really is not penurious. But part of the
question is timing and part of it is picking what you ask for. We've got
a big software upgrade purchase going through the channels for myself
and a colleague, and I don't want to do anything right now that might
derail or delay that. Template Mapper may be an option, but I'm
operating under the assumption that now is not the right moment to ask.
I phrased the question as I did because I didn't want to get hung up on
something that very well might not happen now when other options could
be available. The responses that have come have borne out some very
useful possibilities.

Not so grumpy after a long weekend :)
Jim

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Whites
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 8:32 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs

Jim -
So my understanding is that the company you work for will not spring for
$200 for SW that will end up saving you dozens of hours of grunt work
and the company possibly thousands of dollars in your salary.
"For discussion's sake," let's say buy Template Mapper with your own
funds, use it for this project, and uninstall it when you leave to go to
a wiser and less penurious employer.
Unless your children are truly going to do without milk and shoes, I'd
say spend the $200.

Feeling rather grumpy this Friday afternoon,

Will White
ViaLogy LLC

On May 23, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Pinkham, Jim wrote:

> Hello, all --
>
> I've just spent a couple of days getting our standard manual template 
> tweaked and polished and localized from its timeworn Germanic origins 
> (we inherited from our corporate parent across the pond). Now the task

> is to begin applying the template to new docs that are often based 
> upon old manuals that used the old template. Looks like Template 
> Mapper would be perfect for the task, but let's assume that no matter 
> how wise and cost-effective and practical it might be, that $200 is 
> not an option in the near future. So let's not go there. We'll just 
> postulate that's a good idea, and leave it at that. For discussion's 
> sake, this is a $0 project.
>
> The question is this: Just using the normal set of tools that comes 
> with Frame (7.1 on Windows XP SP-2), and possibly freeware, what is 
> the fastest, most effective way to migrate a new template into old 
> docs. Am I doomed to paragraph-by-paragraph, table-by-table, and 
> cell-by-cell transformations? Or are there better alternatives?
>
> Jim
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FrameMaker v8.0.4 (p277)

2008-05-27 Thread Doug Cuff
According to the readme, patch 277 contains one fix:

=-=-=

Adobe  FrameMaker  8.0.4 ReadMe 

This update resolves the critical issue found in FM 8.0.3.

After installing FM 8.0.3 ,CrossRef marker present in Framemaker file is 
deleted during Show/Hide
condition because of which Cross-reference gets unresolved.

=-=-

In the meantime, some of the bugs "fixed" in 8.0.3 are still very much with me. 
For example, Next
Pgf Tag is still broken when the paragraph tag has no text in it except for the 
autonumbering.