Re: Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document

[Amnon Yaish]

Press the Alt key and type your Unicode, then release the alt key.

Amnon.

Geoffrey Marnell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said on 1/06/08 at 10:37 :

...I want to enter some unicode (but non-ANSI) characters into an English
language document ... 


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Re: Running Header in a Continued File?

[John Pitt]

Pat,

Another way of skinning this particular cat works without needing to 
split chapter files (on Frame from 7.x anyway).

It boils down to adding particular parastyles to the 
UnstructMasterPageMaps table on Reference pages and selecting Apply 
Master Pages when you Update the book. Whenever the Update sees the 
first parastyle, it changes the Master page used to your Landscape; and 
returns to the standard Left/Right Masters when it sees the second 
parastyle.

We use it on Single-sided books with excellent results by adding two new 
paragraph styles (StartLandscape and FinishLandscape). I think it might 
be more difficult with Double-sided docs.

In the FM 8 help, the full instructos are in To assign a master page to 
body pages on which a paragraph tag appears.

HTH

jjj

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Re: FM updates on Adobe website not complete

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Hi Klaus,

I collected all available updates on my website:

http://cap-studio.de/wp/index.php/2008/06/framemaker-804/

Due to unknown processes it takes a while for all stuff to finally  
appear on the website. One can easily imagine that there is no direct  
access to the adobe.com website content, everything is (most  
probably) created on a staging server and then, after some final  
approvement process, uploaded to the public server. Those processes  
are not executed every day, because the QA load would be too heavy. I  
guess... wild guesses...

- Michael

Am 31.05.2008 um 15:32 schrieb Klaus Daube:

 Dear all,

 Is there a policy by Adobe when to provide FM updates on their web- 
 page
 http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp? 
 product=22platform=Windows ?

 Although there is talk about 8.0.4 only 8.0.2 is available there.

 I'm generally not a fan of automatic updates of software - i want  
 to have control over
 my PC and its programs. Sometimes I can catch the files in the temp  
 directory (and put
 them into a special folder: has_been_installed) - but with short  
 updates this is
 impossible. I'm not fast enough finding them...

 So my question to Adobe is: is there a policy about the updates  
 presented on the
 support page?

 Regards
 Klaus Daube


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Re: Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document

[Mike Wickham]

 I want to enter some unicode (but non-ANSI) characters into an English
 language document (such as primes and double primes-u2032; and u2033;
 respectively-being symbols use in specifying latitude and longitude). I'm
 stuffed if I can work out how to do this directly in FM.

The only method I'm aware of is to cut and paste characters from the Windows 
Character Map program.

Mike Wickham


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Re: Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document

[Mike Wickham]

 Press the Alt key and type your Unicode, then release the alt key.

That only works for the 256 extended ASCII characters for me. How are you 
entering the Unicode characters with higher values, such as U+0416? Alt-416 
and Alt-0416 both produce characters, but neither are the correct Unicode 
character. (I used the Arial Unicode MS font.)

Mike Wickham


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Re: Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document

[Amnon Yaish]

Mike,

For U+0416, you normally do alt/0,4,1,6 . I have already heard of such
problems as you describe because of Windows' bad implementation of
Unicode at lower levels. That might be sometimes related to interaction
with a specific font.

Have you tried switching fonts? You might also have a look at a very
convenient utility called PopChar Win, which you can find at http://
www.macility.com/products/popcharwin/ and which I use without a glitch
on Frame 8 / Windows XP (MacBook Pro+VMWare Fusion).

Good luck,

Amnon.



Mike Wickham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said on 1/06/08 at 13:23 :

 Press the Alt key and type your Unicode, then release the alt key.

That only works for the 256 extended ASCII characters for me. How are you 
entering the Unicode characters with higher values, such as U+0416? Alt-416 
and Alt-0416 both produce characters, but neither are the correct Unicode 
character. (I used the Arial Unicode MS font.)

Mike Wickham





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RE: Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document

[Mike Bradley]

It embarasses me to say, this, really it does, but … I looked in the Office 
online help!!!

To enter a Unicode character, enter codeALT+X. For instance, to type €, the 
Euro symbol, type 20ac then press ALT+X. It works in Office 2007; I don't 
know about earlier versions.


= Mike Bradley
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Re: Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document

[Klaus Mueller]

Geoffrey,

The first method described here (How to enter Unicode characters
in Microsoft Windows)
http://www.fileformat.info/tip/microsoft/enter_unicode.htm
does work for me in FM8.
You probably need to set the registry key EnableHexNumpad as described.

If you don't know your unicode (hex) values inside out, BabelMap
http://www.babelstone.co.uk/Software/BabelMap.html
is a cute tool to determine, convert and search for unicode chars
(valuable tip by Stefan Gentz).

Kind regards,
Klaus


--- Original Message ---
From: Geoffrey Marnell
Date: 01.06.2008 02:37
 Hi Framers,
  
 I'm tired of pulling my hair out trying to find an answer to this in the FM
 8 OLH, so over to you...
  
 I want to enter some unicode (but non-ANSI) characters into an English
 language document (such as primes and double primes-u2032; and u2033;
 respectively-being symbols use in specifying latitude and longitude). I'm
 stuffed if I can work out how to do this directly in FM. 
  
 There is a long-winded workaround: type the character in MSWord (2032 + ALT
 + x gives the prime, for example), copy it, and then paste it into FM (Paste
 Special -- Unicode Text). But surely there is an easier way than this.
 Ideas?
  
 Cheers
  
 
 Geoffrey Marnell
 Principal Consultant
 Abelard Consulting Pty Ltd
 T: (+61 3) 9596 3456
 F: (+61 3) 9596 3625
 W: http://www.abelard.com.au http://www.abelard.com.au/ 

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Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is independent?

[Syed.Hosain]

Hi, all.

I am trying to set up a mechanism to use an absolute numbering scheme for 
certain paragraphs that is *independent* of the other numbering in the document.

For example, I may have a Heading 1 that increases 1, 2, 3, etc., Heading 2 
that increases 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, etc. (and gets reset to .1 in each Heading 1), 
etc.

But, independent of these, I have some paragraphs (currently inside tables) 
that need to have a number that also auto-increments (like Spec 1, Spec 2, 
etc.) but *completely* independently from the chapter and section numbering! 
The reason I want to use *automatically* is obvious ... if I insert a paragraph 
into the document with that format, I want to have all the later ones after 
that point automatically get updated with the auto-number.

I looked for a Autonumber Format in Building Block that I could use for this 
purpose (in the Paragraph Designer), but no luck. Getting the letters Spec  
in there is easy, but there does not seem to be a numbering scheme that I can 
use for this ...

So ... is there any way to achieve the desired result?

Z
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pulling an image from an FM file

[Ken Poshedly]

I could have sworn I saw this mentioned here at at least one time in 
the past, but don't remember how long ago, but how to extract -- if 
possible-- an embedded image from an FM file. (This is what I was 
given to work with.)

It's either do that, edit it and then re-import it or ele scan in a 
hardcopy and save it as tif and go from there.

-- Kenpo in Atlanta on a Sunday night

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RE: Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is independent?

[Syed.Hosain]

Ah!

 

Thanks much, Pat!!!

 

I think I was missing one important piece in my knowledge/efforts ...
the x you mention below - to get the number into its own series. I
will try that!

 

Thanks again,

 

Z

 

From: Pat Fortino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 6:13 PM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]);
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is
independent?

 

Hi Z,

If I understand what you're asking, it should be pretty easy. Add this
to the para numbering style: n+. If you want it in it's own series, at
this: x:n+ where x is any letter that is not being used by another
number scheme.

 

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- Original Message 
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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2008 7:04:01 PM
Subject: Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is
independent?

Hi, all.

I am trying to set up a mechanism to use an absolute numbering scheme
for certain paragraphs that is *independent* of the other numbering in
the document.

For example, I may have a Heading 1 that increases 1, 2, 3, etc.,
Heading 2 that increases 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, etc. (and gets reset to .1 in
each Heading 1), etc.

But, independent of these, I have some paragraphs (currently inside
tables) that need to have a number that also auto-increments (like Spec
1, Spec 2, etc.) but *completely* independently from the chapter and
section numbering! The reason I want to use *automatically* is obvious
... if I insert a paragraph into the document with that format, I want
to have all the later ones after that point automatically get updated
with the auto-number.

I looked for a Autonumber Format in Building Block that I could use for
this purpose (in the Paragraph Designer), but no luck. Getting the
letters Spec  in there is easy, but there does not seem to be a
numbering scheme that I can use for this ...

So ... is there any way to achieve the desired result?

Z

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RE: Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is independent?

[Syed.Hosain]

Worked perfectly, Pat!

In fact, if I had just tried it with the word Spec  like I showed
below, I would have not even had to ask the question! Those letters
appear to act like the x you mentioned.

I did make a new paragraph format for this table cell too, and that also
may have been part of the knowledge that I was missing before.

Thanks much again,

Z

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Syed Zaeem Hosain ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 6:16 PM
 To: Pat Fortino; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is
independent?
 
 Ah!
 
 Thanks much, Pat!!!
 
 I think I was missing one important piece in my knowledge/efforts ...
 the x you mention below - to get the number into its own series. I
 will try that!
 
 Thanks again,
 
 Z
 
 From: Pat Fortino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 6:13 PM
 To: Syed Zaeem Hosain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]);
 framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is
 independent?
 
 Hi Z,
 
 If I understand what you're asking, it should be pretty easy. Add this
 to the para numbering style: n+. If you want it in it's own series,
at
 this: x:n+ where x is any letter that is not being used by another
 number scheme.
 
 Pat Fortino
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 - Original Message 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2008 7:04:01 PM
 Subject: Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is
 independent?
 
 Hi, all.
 
 I am trying to set up a mechanism to use an absolute numbering scheme
 for certain paragraphs that is *independent* of the other numbering in
 the document.
 
 For example, I may have a Heading 1 that increases 1, 2, 3, etc.,
 Heading 2 that increases 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, etc. (and gets reset to .1 in
 each Heading 1), etc.
 
 But, independent of these, I have some paragraphs (currently inside
 tables) that need to have a number that also auto-increments (like
Spec
 1, Spec 2, etc.) but *completely* independently from the chapter
and
 section numbering! The reason I want to use *automatically* is obvious
 ... if I insert a paragraph into the document with that format, I want
 to have all the later ones after that point automatically get updated
 with the auto-number.
 
 I looked for a Autonumber Format in Building Block that I could use
for
 this purpose (in the Paragraph Designer), but no luck. Getting the
 letters Spec  in there is easy, but there does not seem to be a
 numbering scheme that I can use for this ...
 
 So ... is there any way to achieve the desired result?
 
 Z
 
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Re: Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document

[Mike Wickham]

 The first method described here (How to enter Unicode characters
 in Microsoft Windows)
 http://www.fileformat.info/tip/microsoft/enter_unicode.htm
 does work for me in FM8.
 You probably need to set the registry key EnableHexNumpad as described.

Thanks! Adding the registry key got it working for me.

Mike Wickham


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RE: unresolved x-ref to a heading in a text inset

[Johnson, Kathleen]

An even easier method, which lets you keep the heading in the inset, is
to initially insert the cross-reference marker in the inset. After the
inset is updated in the container file, re-create the cross-reference to
the container file, which will use the marker contained inside the
inset. It won't matter how many manuals you have or where you use the
inset, and you can keep headings with their associated text.
Kathleen

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Subject: RE: unresolved x-ref to a heading in a text inset

Verner,

Cross-references with text insets are tricky. X-refs to text insets
require that the container file be specified for the inset. Since the
inset is in two different manuals (Manual A and Manual B), when you set
a reference to the inset in Manual A, then Manual A's file name and
location become part of that x-reference, so that's why the x-ref
becomes unresolved for Manual B. Conversely, when you set a reference to
the inset in Manual B, then  Manual B's file name and location become
part of that x-reference, so that's why the x-ref becomes unresolved for
Manual A. There are a variety of ways to solve this (framescript,
manually making two x-refs with conditional text, etc.) but the most
consistent and easiest way is NOT to have headings in insets. Keep the
headings in the container file and import the inset less the heading.
This way, you can set up x-refs to headings to two different manuals as
you would always in FM and not have this problem.

Let me know if you need any more help.

TVB

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Hello

 

2 different manuals use the same text inset and each of them have an
x-ref to the same heading in the text inset.

 

Whenever I open one manual and solve the unresolved x-ref, the other
manual will get an unresolved x-ref to that heading.

 

How do you suggest that I solve this?

 

Best regards,

 

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Re: Running Header in a Continued File?

[Pat Fortino]

Hi John,

I tried the method you described and it works. However, I want it use the Range 
Indicator is Until changed This requires that I specify and end paragraph 
style, but the frame instructions don't say where to enter the second para 
style or if you need to use some separator; eg a ; or :.

Where
do you enter the second (ending) paragraph style; eg, you said you used
StartLandscape and FinishLandscape. Do you put both in the first
column? Do they need any special separator? I tried putting both in the first 
column, but that didn't work.

 
=

Pat,

Another way of skinning this particular cat works without needing to 
split chapter files (on Frame from 7.x anyway).

It boils down to adding particular parastyles to the 
UnstructMasterPageMaps table on Reference pages and selecting Apply 
Master Pages when you Update the book. Whenever the Update sees the 
first parastyle, it changes the Master page used to your Landscape; and 
returns to the standard Left/Right Masters when it sees the second 
parastyle.

We use it on Single-sided books with excellent results by adding two new 
paragraph styles (StartLandscape and FinishLandscape). I think it might 
be more difficult with Double-sided docs.

In the FM 8 help, the full instructos are in To assign a master page to 
body pages on which a paragraph tag appears.

HTH

jjj

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Re: Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is independent?

[Pat Fortino]

Hi Z,

If I understand what you're asking, it should be pretty easy. Add this to the 
para numbering style: n+. If you want it in it's own series, at this: x:n+ 
where x is any letter that is not being used by another number scheme.

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Subject: Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is independent?

Hi, all.

I am trying to set up a mechanism to use an absolute numbering scheme for 
certain paragraphs that is *independent* of the other numbering in the document.

For example, I may have a Heading 1 that increases 1, 2, 3, etc., Heading 2 
that increases 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, etc. (and gets reset to .1 in each Heading 1), 
etc.

But, independent of these, I have some paragraphs (currently inside tables) 
that need to have a number that also auto-increments (like Spec 1, Spec 2, 
etc.) but *completely* independently from the chapter and section numbering! 
The reason I want to use *automatically* is obvious ... if I insert a paragraph 
into the document with that format, I want to have all the later ones after 
that point automatically get updated with the auto-number.

I looked for a Autonumber Format in Building Block that I could use for this 
purpose (in the Paragraph Designer), but no luck. Getting the letters Spec  
in there is easy, but there does not seem to be a numbering scheme that I can 
use for this ...

So ... is there any way to achieve the desired result?

Z
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Adobe FrameMaker 8.0.4 failed to install

[Hedley Finger]

The Adobe Updater recognised that I didn't have the latest update.  
Captivate and RoboHelp were updated successfully but not FrameMaker.  
Why is this?  I have also set preferences so that the updater will check 
automatically but it never does.  This is a bog standard installation in 
the default directory on Windows XP, which itself has had all updates 
installed.

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Running Header in a Continued File?

[John Pitt]

Pat,

Another way of skinning this particular cat works without needing to 
split chapter files (on Frame from 7.x anyway).

It boils down to adding particular parastyles to the 
UnstructMasterPageMaps table on Reference pages and selecting Apply 
Master Pages when you Update the book. Whenever the Update sees the 
first parastyle, it changes the Master page used to your Landscape; and 
returns to the standard Left/Right Masters when it sees the second 
parastyle.

We use it on Single-sided books with excellent results by adding two new 
paragraph styles (StartLandscape and FinishLandscape). I think it might 
be more difficult with Double-sided docs.

In the FM 8 help, the full instructos are in "To assign a master page to 
body pages on which a paragraph tag appears".

HTH

jjj

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FM updates on Adobe website not complete

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

Hi Klaus,

I collected all available updates on my website:



Due to unknown processes it takes a while for all stuff to finally  
appear on the website. One can easily imagine that there is no direct  
access to the adobe.com website content, everything is (most  
probably) created on a staging server and then, after some final  
approvement process, uploaded to the public server. Those processes  
are not executed every day, because the QA load would be too heavy. I  
guess... wild guesses...

- Michael

Am 31.05.2008 um 15:32 schrieb Klaus Daube:

> Dear all,
>
> Is there a policy by Adobe when to provide FM updates on their web- 
> page
> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp? 
> product=22=Windows ?
>
> Although there is talk about 8.0.4 only 8.0.2 is available there.
>
> I'm generally not a fan of automatic updates of software - i want  
> to have control over
> my PC and its programs. Sometimes I can catch the files in the temp  
> directory (and put
> them into a special folder: has_been_installed) - but with short  
> updates this is
> impossible. I'm not fast enough finding them...
>
> So my question to Adobe is: is there a policy about the updates  
> presented on the
> support page?
>
> Regards
> Klaus Daube


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Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document

[Mike Wickham]

> I want to enter some unicode (but non-ANSI) characters into an English
> language document (such as primes and double primes-u2032; and u2033;
> respectively-being symbols use in specifying latitude and longitude). I'm
> stuffed if I can work out how to do this directly in FM.

The only method I'm aware of is to cut and paste characters from the Windows 
Character Map program.

Mike Wickham

Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document

[Mike Wickham]

> Press the Alt key and type your Unicode, then release the alt key.

That only works for the 256 extended ASCII characters for me. How are you 
entering the Unicode characters with higher values, such as U+0416? Alt-416 
and Alt-0416 both produce characters, but neither are the correct Unicode 
character. (I used the Arial Unicode MS font.)

Mike Wickham

Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document

[Amnon Yaish]

Mike,

For U+0416, you normally do alt/0,4,1,6 . I have already heard of such
problems as you describe because of Windows' bad implementation of
Unicode at lower levels. That might be sometimes related to interaction
with a specific font.

Have you tried switching fonts? You might also have a look at a very
convenient utility called PopChar Win, which you can find at  and which I use without a glitch
on Frame 8 / Windows XP (MacBook Pro+VMWare Fusion).

Good luck,

Amnon.



Mike Wickham (mewickham at compuserve.com) said on 1/06/08 at 13:23 :

>> Press the Alt key and type your Unicode, then release the alt key.
>
>That only works for the 256 extended ASCII characters for me. How are you 
>entering the Unicode characters with higher values, such as U+0416? Alt-416 
>and Alt-0416 both produce characters, but neither are the correct Unicode 
>character. (I used the Arial Unicode MS font.)
>
>Mike Wickham
>
>
>

Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document

[Mike Bradley]

It embarasses me to say, this, really it does, but ? I looked in the Office 
online help!!!

To enter a Unicode character, enter ALT+X. For instance, to type ?, the 
Euro symbol, type "20ac" then press ALT+X. It works in Office 2007; I don't 
know about earlier versions.


= Mike Bradley
  www.techpubs.com

Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is independent?

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

Hi, all.

I am trying to set up a mechanism to use an absolute numbering scheme for 
certain paragraphs that is *independent* of the other numbering in the document.

For example, I may have a Heading 1 that increases 1, 2, 3, etc., Heading 2 
that increases 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, etc. (and gets reset to .1 in each Heading 1), 
etc.

But, independent of these, I have some paragraphs (currently inside tables) 
that need to have a number that also auto-increments (like "Spec 1", "Spec 2", 
etc.) but *completely* independently from the chapter and section numbering! 
The reason I want to use *automatically* is obvious ... if I insert a paragraph 
into the document with that format, I want to have all the later ones after 
that point automatically get updated with the auto-number.

I looked for a Autonumber Format in Building Block that I could use for this 
purpose (in the Paragraph Designer), but no luck. Getting the letters "Spec " 
in there is easy, but there does not seem to be a numbering scheme that I can 
use for this ...

So ... is there any way to achieve the desired result?

Z

pulling an image from an FM file

[Ken Poshedly]

I could have sworn I saw this mentioned here at at least one time in 
the past, but don't remember how long ago, but how to extract -- if 
possible-- an embedded image from an FM file. (This is what I was 
given to work with.)

It's either do that, edit it and then re-import it or ele scan in a 
hardcopy and save it as tif and go from there.

-- Kenpo in Atlanta on a Sunday night

Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is independent?

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

Ah!



Thanks much, Pat!!!



I think I was missing one important piece in my knowledge/efforts ...
the "x" you mention below - to get the number into its own series. I
will try that!



Thanks again,



Z



From: Pat Fortino [mailto:patfort...@writenowdesign.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 6:13 PM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net);
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is
independent?



Hi Z,

If I understand what you're asking, it should be pretty easy. Add this
to the para numbering style: . If you want it in it's own series, at
this: x: where x is any letter that is not being used by another
number scheme.



Pat Fortino
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- Original Message 
From: "Syed.Hosain at aeris.net" 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2008 7:04:01 PM
Subject: Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is
independent?

Hi, all.

I am trying to set up a mechanism to use an absolute numbering scheme
for certain paragraphs that is *independent* of the other numbering in
the document.

For example, I may have a Heading 1 that increases 1, 2, 3, etc.,
Heading 2 that increases 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, etc. (and gets reset to .1 in
each Heading 1), etc.

But, independent of these, I have some paragraphs (currently inside
tables) that need to have a number that also auto-increments (like "Spec
1", "Spec 2", etc.) but *completely* independently from the chapter and
section numbering! The reason I want to use *automatically* is obvious
... if I insert a paragraph into the document with that format, I want
to have all the later ones after that point automatically get updated
with the auto-number.

I looked for a Autonumber Format in Building Block that I could use for
this purpose (in the Paragraph Designer), but no luck. Getting the
letters "Spec " in there is easy, but there does not seem to be a
numbering scheme that I can use for this ...

So ... is there any way to achieve the desired result?

Z

Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is independent?

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

Worked perfectly, Pat!

In fact, if I had just tried it with the word "Spec " like I showed
below, I would have not even had to ask the question! Those letters
appear to act like the "x" you mentioned.

I did make a new paragraph format for this table cell too, and that also
may have been part of the knowledge that I was missing before.

Thanks much again,

Z

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 6:16 PM
> To: Pat Fortino; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is
independent?
> 
> Ah!
> 
> Thanks much, Pat!!!
> 
> I think I was missing one important piece in my knowledge/efforts ...
> the "x" you mention below - to get the number into its own series. I
> will try that!
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Z
> 
> From: Pat Fortino [mailto:patfortino at writenowdesign.com]
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 6:13 PM
> To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net);
> framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is
> independent?
> 
> Hi Z,
> 
> If I understand what you're asking, it should be pretty easy. Add this
> to the para numbering style: . If you want it in it's own series,
at
> this: x: where x is any letter that is not being used by another
> number scheme.
> 
> Pat Fortino
> writenowdesign.com
> 
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> - Original Message 
> From: "Syed.Hosain at aeris.net" 
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2008 7:04:01 PM
> Subject: Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is
> independent?
> 
> Hi, all.
> 
> I am trying to set up a mechanism to use an absolute numbering scheme
> for certain paragraphs that is *independent* of the other numbering in
> the document.
> 
> For example, I may have a Heading 1 that increases 1, 2, 3, etc.,
> Heading 2 that increases 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, etc. (and gets reset to .1 in
> each Heading 1), etc.
> 
> But, independent of these, I have some paragraphs (currently inside
> tables) that need to have a number that also auto-increments (like
"Spec
> 1", "Spec 2", etc.) but *completely* independently from the chapter
and
> section numbering! The reason I want to use *automatically* is obvious
> ... if I insert a paragraph into the document with that format, I want
> to have all the later ones after that point automatically get updated
> with the auto-number.
> 
> I looked for a Autonumber Format in Building Block that I could use
for
> this purpose (in the Paragraph Designer), but no luck. Getting the
> letters "Spec " in there is easy, but there does not seem to be a
> numbering scheme that I can use for this ...
> 
> So ... is there any way to achieve the desired result?
> 
> Z
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Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document

[Mike Wickham]

> The first method described here ("How to enter Unicode characters
> in Microsoft Windows")
> http://www.fileformat.info/tip/microsoft/enter_unicode.htm
> does work for me in FM8.
> You probably need to set the registry key EnableHexNumpad as described.

Thanks! Adding the registry key got it working for me.

Mike Wickham

pulling an image from an FM file

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:13:06 -0400, Ken Poshedly  
wrote:

>I could have sworn I saw this mentioned here at at least one time in 
>the past, but don't remember how long ago, but how to extract -- if 
>possible-- an embedded image from an FM file. (This is what I was 
>given to work with.)
>
>It's either do that, edit it and then re-import it or ele scan in a 
>hardcopy and save it as tif and go from there.

Yes.  We posted this info here May 2, in response to a similar query.  
Mif2Go can do that for you, and it works fine with the demo version; 
you don't have to buy it:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

The process is described in the User's Guide, par. 29.2.3, "Exporting 
and converting embedded graphics".  It works best if the image is alone
in its anchored frame; then you get the original format at full original
resolution back.  You do *not* get the original name, because Frame does
not store it; yet another reason never to embed graphics.

Worst case, Mif2Go exports the graphic at screen resolution, in the
format you select (usually GIF or JPEG), using Frame's native graphic
export filters.  In that case, callouts, montages, etc., are retained,
but the resolution is generally much worse than the original was.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

unresolved x-ref to a heading in a text inset

[Johnson, Kathleen]

An even easier method, which lets you keep the heading in the inset, is
to initially insert the cross-reference marker in the inset. After the
inset is updated in the container file, re-create the cross-reference to
the container file, which will use the marker contained inside the
inset. It won't matter how many manuals you have or where you use the
inset, and you can keep headings with their associated text.
Kathleen

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van
Boening
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:47 PM
To: Andersen, Verner Engell VEA; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: unresolved x-ref to a heading in a text inset

Verner,

Cross-references with text insets are tricky. X-refs to text insets
require that the container file be specified for the inset. Since the
inset is in two different manuals (Manual A and Manual B), when you set
a reference to the inset in Manual A, then Manual A's file name and
location become part of that x-reference, so that's why the x-ref
becomes unresolved for Manual B. Conversely, when you set a reference to
the inset in Manual B, then  Manual B's file name and location become
part of that x-reference, so that's why the x-ref becomes unresolved for
Manual A. There are a variety of ways to solve this (framescript,
manually making two x-refs with conditional text, etc.) but the most
consistent and easiest way is NOT to have headings in insets. Keep the
headings in the container file and import the inset less the heading.
This way, you can set up x-refs to headings to two different manuals as
you would always in FM and not have this problem.

Let me know if you need any more help.

TVB

-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Andersen,
Verner Engell VEA
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 1:46 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: unresolved x-ref to a heading in a text inset

Hello



2 different manuals use the same text inset and each of them have an
x-ref to the same heading in the text inset.



Whenever I open one manual and solve the unresolved x-ref, the other
manual will get an unresolved x-ref to that heading.



How do you suggest that I solve this?



Best regards,



Verner Andersen


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Running Header in a Continued File?

[Pat Fortino]

Hi John,

I tried the method you described and it works. However, I want it use the Range 
Indicator is "Until changed" This requires that I specify and end paragraph 
style, but the frame instructions don't say where to enter the second para 
style or if you need to use some separator; eg a ; or :.

Where
do you enter the second (ending) paragraph style; eg, you said you used
StartLandscape and FinishLandscape. Do you put both in the first
column? Do they need any special separator? I tried putting both in the first 
column, but that didn't work.


=

Pat,

Another way of skinning this particular cat works without needing to 
split chapter files (on Frame from 7.x anyway).

It boils down to adding particular parastyles to the 
UnstructMasterPageMaps table on Reference pages and selecting Apply 
Master Pages when you Update the book. Whenever the Update sees the 
first parastyle, it changes the Master page used to your Landscape; and 
returns to the standard Left/Right Masters when it sees the second 
parastyle.

We use it on Single-sided books with excellent results by adding two new 
paragraph styles (StartLandscape and FinishLandscape). I think it might 
be more difficult with Double-sided docs.

In the FM 8 help, the full instructos are in "To assign a master page to 
body pages on which a paragraph tag appears".

HTH

jjj

Two down: only George to go!
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47 Gottenham St
Glebe NSW 2037
Ph: 02 9692 8096
Mob: 0438 92 8096
john at pitt.net.au
www.pitt.net.au

Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is independent?

[Pat Fortino]

Hi Z,

If I understand what you're asking, it should be pretty easy. Add this to the 
para numbering style: . If you want it in it's own series, at this: x: 
where x is any letter that is not being used by another number scheme.

 Pat Fortino
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- Original Message 
From: "Syed.Hosain at aeris.net" 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2008 7:04:01 PM
Subject: Any way to set an absolute numbering scheme that is independent?

Hi, all.

I am trying to set up a mechanism to use an absolute numbering scheme for 
certain paragraphs that is *independent* of the other numbering in the document.

For example, I may have a Heading 1 that increases 1, 2, 3, etc., Heading 2 
that increases 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, etc. (and gets reset to .1 in each Heading 1), 
etc.

But, independent of these, I have some paragraphs (currently inside tables) 
that need to have a number that also auto-increments (like "Spec 1", "Spec 2", 
etc.) but *completely* independently from the chapter and section numbering! 
The reason I want to use *automatically* is obvious ... if I insert a paragraph 
into the document with that format, I want to have all the later ones after 
that point automatically get updated with the auto-number.

I looked for a Autonumber Format in Building Block that I could use for this 
purpose (in the Paragraph Designer), but no luck. Getting the letters "Spec " 
in there is easy, but there does not seem to be a numbering scheme that I can 
use for this ...

So ... is there any way to achieve the desired result?

Z
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Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document

[Amnon Yaish]

Press the Alt key and type your Unicode, then release the alt key.

Amnon.

Geoffrey Marnell (geoffrey at abelard.com.au) said on 1/06/08 at 10:37 :

>...>I want to enter some unicode (but non-ANSI) characters into an English
>language document ...> 

Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document

[Geoffrey Marnell]

Hi Framers,

I'm tired of pulling my hair out trying to find an answer to this in the FM
8 OLH, so over to you...

I want to enter some unicode (but non-ANSI) characters into an English
language document (such as primes and double primes-u2032; and u2033;
respectively-being symbols use in specifying latitude and longitude). I'm
stuffed if I can work out how to do this directly in FM. 

There is a long-winded workaround: type the character in MSWord (2032 + ALT
+ x gives the prime, for example), copy it, and then paste it into FM (Paste
Special --> Unicode Text). But surely there is an easier way than this.
Ideas?

Cheers


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