Re: Words dropping out when a PDF is generated

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

This I have experienced (besides what is due to the FNTCACHE.DAT
problem) when Structured FrameMaker has gobbled up too much memory.
The only solution (until Micro$oft sometime in the next ten years
solves it with a brand new Hotfix ;-) ) is to quit FM and restart or
even to reboot.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:52 PM, John Posada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, guys.

 Has anyone experienced the problem of when generating a PDF from a Frame
 book, of random words dropping out; not appearing in the PDF, but their
 space still reserved.

 From what we can tell, it only happens on XP Pro OS and is more prone
 (though not always) in text inserted by reference.


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Re: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix now available

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Seems that this is only for Vista. That is the only option I get and
the file I received was a Vista installation file. I even opened it
using the expand function, but this showed only Windows 6.0 related
files (mum and cab).  Is there a way to get this working on XP SP2?

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Yves Barbion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Framers

 Good news for those of you who have experienced the following problems:

   - Save as PDF leading to a crash.
   - Text dropping out of PDF created from FrameMaker.

 The only workaround for this nasty problem was to delete fntcache.dat and
 restart Windows. This is no longer necessary (fingers crossed), because a
 Windows Hotfix is now available:

 http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2008/07/hotfix_for_framemaker_1.html

 Hurray, hurray!



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Re: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix now available

[Art Campbell]

When I downloaded from the site, you had to specify your OS, I assume
in order to get an OS-specific file. I think this is because it is an
expidited hot fix that isn't available for general release yet. But
I specified XP, and it gave me a file that installed fine.
348411_ENU_i386_zip.exe at 715 K

Art

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Seems that this is only for Vista. That is the only option I get and
 the file I received was a Vista installation file. I even opened it
 using the expand function, but this showed only Windows 6.0 related
 files (mum and cab).  Is there a way to get this working on XP SP2?

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

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RE: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix nowavailable

[John Sgammato]

I downloaded and installed the XP file. 
Since then FM has crashed three times. I never had that problem before.
 
john



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Art Campbell
Sent: Tue 7/8/2008 7:41 AM
To: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson; FrameUsers List
Subject: Re: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix 
nowavailable



When I downloaded from the site, you had to specify your OS, I assume
in order to get an OS-specific file. I think this is because it is an
expidited hot fix that isn't available for general release yet. But
I specified XP, and it gave me a file that installed fine.
348411_ENU_i386_zip.exe at 715 K

Art

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Seems that this is only for Vista. That is the only option I get and
 the file I received was a Vista installation file. I even opened it
 using the expand function, but this showed only Windows 6.0 related
 files (mum and cab).  Is there a way to get this working on XP SP2?

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

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Re: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix now available

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Thanks for the info, Art. The link was not quite that obvious. But the
odd thing is that all the XP versions seem to assume SP4. I am running
SP2 and only new installations in my company are SP3. None is SP4. I
hope it will not result in some disaster. ;-)

Bodvar

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I downloaded from the site, you had to specify your OS, I assume
 in order to get an OS-specific file. I think this is because it is an
 expidited hot fix that isn't available for general release yet. But
 I specified XP, and it gave me a file that installed fine.
 348411_ENU_i386_zip.exe at 715 K

 Art

 On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Seems that this is only for Vista. That is the only option I get and
 the file I received was a Vista installation file. I even opened it
 using the expand function, but this showed only Windows 6.0 related
 files (mum and cab).  Is there a way to get this working on XP SP2?

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

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Paste Special - Embedded vs. Linked - PowerPoint

[John Pilla]

Hi;

Our Co's template requires (I do not have control over) Linked Microsoft
PowerPoint slides.
With a course of many PowerPoint Slides, it is a lot of extra work to use
Paste Special to choose 'Linked Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Object' since we
can not use Paste because 'Embedded Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Object' is
the default.

Yes, there are the key strokes for Paste Special.
However, I looked at Maker.ini file and help, and could not find where to
change.

Any suggestions?

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RE: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix nowavailable

[Syed.Hosain]

 Thanks for the info, Art. The link was not quite that obvious. But the
 odd thing is that all the XP versions seem to assume SP4. I am running
 SP2 and only new installations in my company are SP3. None is SP4. I
 hope it will not result in some disaster. ;-)

1. There is no XP SP4 available yet.

2. The download apparently contains (internally) two versions of the
ATMFD.DLL file, and the installation picks the correct one based on the
version of XP you are running.

3. You can verify this easily after the install by looking at the
detailed file properties (as shown in the description of the hotfix).
Indeed, in my version of the file (after the fix) the correct file
properties are shown.

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Can a Framescript event script interact with an external program?

[Rick Spiegel]

I would like to attach a FrameScript event script to the Open command in 
Frame. I would like this script to run an external program and pop up a 
warning in Frame based on the results of the external program. The 
external program can return either an exit code or a string.

And a related question: the external program referred to above is 
Perforce. Does anyone know of a plug in that would allow Frame and 
Perforce to communicate?

Thanks in advance,
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RE: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix nowavailable

[John Sgammato]

I uninstalled some other potential problems and now all is well - no
more crashes today.  

-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:05 AM
To: John Sgammato; FrameUsers List
Subject: Re: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix
nowavailable

John,
Have you tried uninstalling the fix yet, to compare? (No crashes here,
yet, but I haven't put it on a production system yet.)

Art

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:59 AM, John Sgammato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I downloaded and installed the XP file.
 Since then FM has crashed three times. I never had that problem
before.

 john

 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Art Campbell
 Sent: Tue 7/8/2008 7:41 AM
 To: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson; FrameUsers List
 Subject: Re: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix

 nowavailable



 When I downloaded from the site, you had to specify your OS, I assume 
 in order to get an OS-specific file. I think this is because it is an 
 expidited hot fix that isn't available for general release yet. But 
 I specified XP, and it gave me a file that installed fine.
 348411_ENU_i386_zip.exe at 715 K

 Art

 On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Seems that this is only for Vista. That is the only option I get and 
 the file I received was a Vista installation file. I even opened it 
 using the expand function, but this showed only Windows 6.0 related

 files (mum and cab).  Is there a way to get this working on XP SP2?

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

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FM8 benefits

[Rene Stephenson]

Hi All,

I am working up a justification for a client to move from FM 7.2 to FM 8.0. 
Theirs is an unstructured FM environment with a shared-file architecture that 
uses a lot of text insets and condition tags and variables. I have told them 
that FM 8 would greatly simplify their condition catalog due to the use of 
boolean expressions to show/hide conditions, which would eliminate a lot of 
their x+y tags. But, since they already got the unlimited undo (well, more or 
less) in FM 7, they're not convinced that just the boolean conditions would be 
sufficient to justify the expense. I'm wondering if there's something else I'm 
missing, like being able to apply conditions to a column at a time, rather than 
just complete rows or text within a table cell...? Maybe there's something 
better about how FM 8 handles text insets?

It would help, I think, if they were a structured shop, because it seems most 
of the FM 8 benefits are targeted to the structured use of FM...but I'm happy 
to be corrected!

Thanks,

 
Rene L. Stephenson
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RE: FM8 benefits

[Linda G. Gallagher]

Rene,

I'm using the track edits feature so that my reviewers and I can see the
exact changes I make. It's a lot like Word's feature. Now, if only they'd
put all the controls at the book level, too.

HTH.


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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:18 PM
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Subject: FM8 benefits

Hi All,

I am working up a justification for a client to move from FM 7.2 to FM 8.0.
Theirs is an unstructured FM environment with a shared-file architecture
that uses a lot of text insets and condition tags and variables. I have told
them that FM 8 would greatly simplify their condition catalog due to the use
of boolean expressions to show/hide conditions, which would eliminate a lot
of their x+y tags. But, since they already got the unlimited undo (well,
more or less) in FM 7, they're not convinced that just the boolean
conditions would be sufficient to justify the expense. I'm wondering if
there's something else I'm missing, like being able to apply conditions to a
column at a time, rather than just complete rows or text within a table
cell...? Maybe there's something better about how FM 8 handles text insets?

It would help, I think, if they were a structured shop, because it seems
most of the FM 8 benefits are targeted to the structured use of FM...but I'm
happy to be corrected!

Thanks,

 
Rene L. Stephenson
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RE: FM8 benefits

[Matt Sullivan]

There are a ton of features related to the TCS integration.

Specifically:
embedded 3d
interactive simulations
output to Help with simulations 
using FM conditions to output to multiple help formats  versions

If applicable, these more than justify the upgrade, but you need to upgrade
to the TCS, not just FM8

 

-Matt Sullivan

 

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An Adobe Authorized Training Center

www.grafixtraining.com

888 882-2819 


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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:18 PM
To: FrameUsers
Subject: FM8 benefits

Hi All,

I am working up a justification for a client to move from FM 7.2 to FM 8.0.
Theirs is an unstructured FM environment with a shared-file architecture
that uses a lot of text insets and condition tags and variables. I have told
them that FM 8 would greatly simplify their condition catalog due to the use
of boolean expressions to show/hide conditions, which would eliminate a lot
of their x+y tags. But, since they already got the unlimited undo (well,
more or less) in FM 7, they're not convinced that just the boolean
conditions would be sufficient to justify the expense. I'm wondering if
there's something else I'm missing, like being able to apply conditions to a
column at a time, rather than just complete rows or text within a table
cell...? Maybe there's something better about how FM 8 handles text insets?

It would help, I think, if they were a structured shop, because it seems
most of the FM 8 benefits are targeted to the structured use of FM...but I'm
happy to be corrected!

Thanks,

 
Rene L. Stephenson
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question about moving around in tables

[Deirdre Reagan]

Hi all:

Anyone know if we can use arrows to move from row to row in a table?

I'm on FM 8.0 on Windows XP.

The arrows don't move the cursor at all.

Thanks,

Deirdre
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Re: question about moving around in tables

[Paul Wilbraham]

Dierdre

You can use the shortcuts as follows:

Esc t m u (table move up)
Esc t m d

You can also make changes in a configuration file to replace these 
keystrokes with shorter sequences.

I have remapped them to F11 and F12.

--Paul Wilbraham

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Subject: question about moving around in tables


 Hi all:

 Anyone know if we can use arrows to move from row to row in a table?

 I'm on FM 8.0 on Windows XP.

 The arrows don't move the cursor at all.

 Thanks,

 Deirdre
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RE: question about moving around in tables

[Lester C. Smalley]

You can also just use TAB to move to the next cell across a row, then
back to the first cell of the next row, and it will wrap from the end of
the table back to the beginning.  Shift-tab moves backward through the
same cycle.

And there's also alt-control-tab to move downward through a column (and
loop back to the top) or alt-control-shift-tab to move upward in a
column.

I haven't tried it, but I presume you could remap these to the arrow
keys, but then you may lose their 'normal' insertion point motion which
I doubt you would want.  Take a look at the Customizing Frame online
manual (Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf, found at C:\Program
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\OnlineManuals in a typical Windows
installation)

On Tuesday, July 08, 2008 16:54, Paul Wilbraham wrote:
 
| Dierdre
| 
| You can use the shortcuts as follows:
| 
| Esc t m u (table move up)
| Esc t m d
| 
| You can also make changes in a configuration file to replace these
| keystrokes with shorter sequences.
| 
| I have remapped them to F11 and F12.
| 
| --Paul Wilbraham
| 
| - Original Message -
| 
|  Hi all:
| 
|  Anyone know if we can use arrows to move from row to row in a table?
| 
|  I'm on FM 8.0 on Windows XP.
| 
|  The arrows don't move the cursor at all.
| 
|  Thanks,
| 
|  Deirdre

- Lester 
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Re: question about moving around in tables

[Klaus Mueller]

Hello Deirdre,

 Anyone know if we can use arrows to move from row to row in a table?

If you have FrameScript installed, there's a free script
TableNavigation.fsl that allows you to navigate in tables
using the arrow keys.
http://www.itl.eu/framescript_download.html?L=1#c1973
(registration required)

Kind regards,
Klaus Müller, itl AG

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Re: FM8 benefits

[Rene Stephenson]

Thanks, Matt. They already use WebWorks to get multiple help outputs using FM 
conditions for multiple versions and product-specific and market-specific 
versions, but I have mentioned the use of embedded 3D images and interactive 
drawings...until one of them went to the Adobe site and found out it's not as 
straight-forward as the marketing presentation made it seem, due to the need 
for a 3D graphic rendering program. And, RH in TCS doesn't work as 
transparently with the native FM files for single-sourcing as the old WWP, 
either. (As a matter of fact, I think it was someone on this list who pointed 
out that part...)  Personally, I think it's such a tight fiscal climate for 
them that any expenditure over about $200 is going to be a hard sell. I 
personally see the TCS value and will upgrade my personal copies, regardless of 
what the client does.

 
Rene L. Stephenson


- Original Message 
From: Matt Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There are a ton of features related to the TCS integration.

Specifically:
embedded 3d
interactive simulations
output to Help with simulations 
using FM conditions to output to multiple help formats  versions

If applicable, these more than justify the upgrade, but you need to upgrade
to the TCS, not just FM8



-Matt Sullivan



GRAFIX Training, Inc.

An Adobe Authorized Training Center

www.grafixtraining.com

888 882-2819 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rene Stephenson
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:18 PM
To: FrameUsers
Subject: FM8 benefits

Hi All,

I am working up a justification for a client to move from FM 7.2 to FM 8.0.
Theirs is an unstructured FM environment with a shared-file architecture
that uses a lot of text insets and condition tags and variables. I have told
them that FM 8 would greatly simplify their condition catalog due to the use
of boolean expressions to show/hide conditions, which would eliminate a lot
of their x+y tags. But, since they already got the unlimited undo (well,
more or less) in FM 7, they're not convinced that just the boolean
conditions would be sufficient to justify the expense. I'm wondering if
there's something else I'm missing, like being able to apply conditions to a
column at a time, rather than just complete rows or text within a table
cell...? Maybe there's something better about how FM 8 handles text insets?

It would help, I think, if they were a structured shop, because it seems
most of the FM 8 benefits are targeted to the structured use of FM...but I'm
happy to be corrected!

Thanks,


Rene L. Stephenson
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Re: FM8 benefits

[Rene Stephenson]

Book-level missing controls...de ja vous... like 5.5 all over again! Sounds 
like a job for (da-da-dahn) Super Frame Developer!  In fly the heroes from 
Silicon Prairie, FrameExpert, Systec, Cudspan, [itl], et al...!

 
Rene L. Stephenson




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Rene,

I'm using the track edits feature so that my reviewers and I can see the
exact changes I make. It's a lot like Word's feature. Now, if only they'd
put all the controls at the book level, too.
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Importing Ventura files

[Alan Litchfield]

Here is a tool that you can use to do a find and replace on tag markers to,
for example, html. It is designed to convert Wordperfect to x but apparently
works the other way around too.
http://wptoolbox.com/library/Code2txt.html

Of course you could do the same thing with a decent text editor like Vim.

If there are images you will need to convert them to an appropriate format.

Alternatively there is this. It converts Ventura to rtf then do whatever you
want with it.
http://tagwrite.com/ventura.html

Cheers
Alan
-- 
Alan Litchfield MBus (Hons), MNZCS
AlphaByte
PO Box 1941, Auckland
http://www.alphabyte.co.nz

Words dropping out when a PDF is generated

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

This I have experienced (besides what is due to the FNTCACHE.DAT
problem) when Structured FrameMaker has gobbled up too much memory.
The only solution (until Micro$oft sometime in the next ten years
solves it with a brand new Hotfix ;-) ) is to quit FM and restart or
even to reboot.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:52 PM, John Posada  wrote:
> Hi, guys.
>
> Has anyone experienced the problem of when generating a PDF from a Frame
> book, of random words dropping out; not appearing in the PDF, but their
> space still reserved.
>
> >From what we can tell, it only happens on XP Pro OS and is more prone
> (though not always) in text inserted by reference.
>
>
> --
> John Posada
> Senior Technical Writer
> NYMetro STC President
>
> 'Half this game is ninety percent mental.'
> -- Danny Ozark, Philadelphia Phillies manager

Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix now available

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Seems that this is only for Vista. That is the only option I get and
the file I received was a Vista installation file. I even opened it
using the "expand" function, but this showed only Windows 6.0 related
files (mum and cab).  Is there a way to get this working on XP SP2?

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Yves Barbion  wrote:
> Hi Framers
>
> Good news for those of you who have experienced the following problems:
>
>   - Save as PDF leading to a crash.
>   - Text dropping out of PDF created from FrameMaker.
>
> The only workaround for this nasty problem was to delete fntcache.dat and
> restart Windows. This is no longer necessary (fingers crossed), because a
> Windows Hotfix is now available:
>
> http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2008/07/hotfix_for_framemaker_1.html
>
> Hurray, hurray!
>
>
>
> --
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> Instructor
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Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix now available

[Art Campbell]

When I downloaded from the site, you had to specify your OS, I assume
in order to get an OS-specific file. I think this is because it is an
expidited "hot" fix that isn't available for general release yet. But
I specified XP, and it gave me a file that installed fine.
348411_ENU_i386_zip.exe at 715 K

Art

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson  wrote:
> Seems that this is only for Vista. That is the only option I get and
> the file I received was a Vista installation file. I even opened it
> using the "expand" function, but this showed only Windows 6.0 related
> files (mum and cab).  Is there a way to get this working on XP SP2?
>
> Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

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and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix nowavailable

[John Sgammato]

I downloaded and installed the XP file. 
Since then FM has crashed three times. I never had that problem before.

john



From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Art Campbell
Sent: Tue 7/8/2008 7:41 AM
To: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson; FrameUsers List
Subject: Re: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix 
nowavailable



When I downloaded from the site, you had to specify your OS, I assume
in order to get an OS-specific file. I think this is because it is an
expidited "hot" fix that isn't available for general release yet. But
I specified XP, and it gave me a file that installed fine.
348411_ENU_i386_zip.exe at 715 K

Art

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson  wrote:
> Seems that this is only for Vista. That is the only option I get and
> the file I received was a Vista installation file. I even opened it
> using the "expand" function, but this showed only Windows 6.0 related
> files (mum and cab).  Is there a way to get this working on XP SP2?
>
> Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

--
Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358
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Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix nowavailable

[Art Campbell]

John,
Have you tried uninstalling the fix yet, to compare? (No crashes here,
yet, but I haven't put it on a production system yet.)

Art

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:59 AM, John Sgammato  
wrote:
> I downloaded and installed the XP file.
> Since then FM has crashed three times. I never had that problem before.
>
> john
>
> 
>
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Art Campbell
> Sent: Tue 7/8/2008 7:41 AM
> To: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson; FrameUsers List
> Subject: Re: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix 
> nowavailable
>
>
>
> When I downloaded from the site, you had to specify your OS, I assume
> in order to get an OS-specific file. I think this is because it is an
> expidited "hot" fix that isn't available for general release yet. But
> I specified XP, and it gave me a file that installed fine.
> 348411_ENU_i386_zip.exe at 715 K
>
> Art
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson  
> wrote:
>> Seems that this is only for Vista. That is the only option I get and
>> the file I received was a Vista installation file. I even opened it
>> using the "expand" function, but this showed only Windows 6.0 related
>> files (mum and cab).  Is there a way to get this working on XP SP2?
>>
>> Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
>
> --
> Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
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> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No disclaimers apply.
>  DoD 358
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 DoD 358

Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix now available

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Thanks for the info, Art. The link was not quite that obvious. But the
odd thing is that all the XP versions seem to assume SP4. I am running
SP2 and only new installations in my company are SP3. None is SP4. I
hope it will not result in some disaster. ;-)

Bodvar

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Art Campbell  wrote:
> When I downloaded from the site, you had to specify your OS, I assume
> in order to get an OS-specific file. I think this is because it is an
> expidited "hot" fix that isn't available for general release yet. But
> I specified XP, and it gave me a file that installed fine.
> 348411_ENU_i386_zip.exe at 715 K
>
> Art
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson  
> wrote:
>> Seems that this is only for Vista. That is the only option I get and
>> the file I received was a Vista installation file. I even opened it
>> using the "expand" function, but this showed only Windows 6.0 related
>> files (mum and cab).  Is there a way to get this working on XP SP2?
>>
>> Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
>
> --
> Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No disclaimers apply.
>  DoD 358
>

Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix now available

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

This is a snippet of the list I got:
Select  Product Language  Platform  Release  File name   Version
Build  File size (bytes)  Modified date
Windows XP  English x86 sp4Fix227700  WxP   
2600
731166 5/28/2008 4:45:28 AM
   Windows Server 2003  English x64 sp3Fix233056  win2003
3790  959273  5/28/2008 9:13:53 AM
   Windows Vista  All (Global) ia64 sp2   Fix233053
Vista   6000979687  5/28/2008 8:56:46 PM

Hopefully the Release refers to the number of the hotfix. ?

Bodvar

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Art Campbell  wrote:
> There's still something wrong with that picture, Bodvar. As far as I
> know, there is no SP4.
> SP3 is only a couple months old, and that was supposed to be the last SP for 
> XP.
> Could you be looking at Server 2003 or something else?
>
> Art
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson  
> wrote:
>> Thanks for the info, Art. The link was not quite that obvious. But the
>> odd thing is that all the XP versions seem to assume SP4. I am running
>> SP2 and only new installations in my company are SP3. None is SP4. I
>> hope it will not result in some disaster. ;-)
>>
>> Bodvar
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Art Campbell  
>> wrote:
>>> When I downloaded from the site, you had to specify your OS, I assume
>>> in order to get an OS-specific file. I think this is because it is an
>>> expidited "hot" fix that isn't available for general release yet. But
>>> I specified XP, and it gave me a file that installed fine.
>>> 348411_ENU_i386_zip.exe at 715 K
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson  
>>> wrote:
 Seems that this is only for Vista. That is the only option I get and
 the file I received was a Vista installation file. I even opened it
 using the "expand" function, but this showed only Windows 6.0 related
 files (mum and cab).  Is there a way to get this working on XP SP2?

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
>>>
>>> --
>>> Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
>>>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
>>> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>>>  No disclaimers apply.
>>>  DoD 358
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No disclaimers apply.
>  DoD 358
>



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Paste Special - Embedded vs. Linked - PowerPoint

[John Pilla]

Hi;

Our Co's template requires (I do not have control over) Linked Microsoft
PowerPoint slides.
With a course of many PowerPoint Slides, it is a lot of extra work to use
Paste Special to choose 'Linked Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Object' since we
can not use Paste because 'Embedded Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Object' is
the default.

Yes, there are the key strokes for Paste Special.
However, I looked at Maker.ini file and help, and could not find where to
change.

Any suggestions?

~ John ~
Sr. Learning Specialist
John.Pilla at us.ibm.com
Home Office Phone: +1.603.864.6797
IBM Tivoli Provisioning and Maximo Enablement

Maximo 5 Certified
IBM Certified Deployment Professional - Maximo V6 EAM
IBM Certified Deployment Professional - Maximo V6 ITSM
Foundation Certificate in IT Service Management

Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix nowavailable

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

> Thanks for the info, Art. The link was not quite that obvious. But the
> odd thing is that all the XP versions seem to assume SP4. I am running
> SP2 and only new installations in my company are SP3. None is SP4. I
> hope it will not result in some disaster. ;-)

1. There is no XP SP4 available yet.

2. The download apparently contains (internally) two versions of the
ATMFD.DLL file, and the installation picks the correct one based on the
version of XP you are running.

3. You can verify this easily after the install by looking at the
detailed file properties (as shown in the description of the hotfix).
Indeed, in my version of the file (after the fix) the correct file
properties are shown.

Z

FM patch 8.0.4 has a problem

[Klaus Daube]

Dear all,

Although I was able to install the patch 8.0.4 on my laptop, on the workstation 
with 
the same state of FM I get the message (not my grammar):

You do not have correct version of FM install on your system.
This patch installer will work only with Version 8 p273 build.
Patch installer will quit now.

IMHO the current version is only written in maker.ini (including that in the 
Document 
& settings). And there it is written as 8.0p273 (as it is on the laptop).

Where else can the installer find an incorrect value?

Thanks for Your ideas
Klaus Daubehttp://mymemo.ch und nie mehr einen Gedanken oder Termin  
verpassen.

Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich
Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78
E-mail: ddd at daube.ch  Web: www.daube.ch/

Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix nowavailable

[John Sgammato]

I uninstalled some other potential problems and now all is well - no
more crashes today.  

-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:05 AM
To: John Sgammato; FrameUsers List
Subject: Re: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix
nowavailable

John,
Have you tried uninstalling the fix yet, to compare? (No crashes here,
yet, but I haven't put it on a production system yet.)

Art

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:59 AM, John Sgammato 
wrote:
> I downloaded and installed the XP file.
> Since then FM has crashed three times. I never had that problem
before.
>
> john
>
> 
>
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Art Campbell
> Sent: Tue 7/8/2008 7:41 AM
> To: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson; FrameUsers List
> Subject: Re: Deleting fntcache.dat no longer necessary: Windows Hotfix

> nowavailable
>
>
>
> When I downloaded from the site, you had to specify your OS, I assume 
> in order to get an OS-specific file. I think this is because it is an 
> expidited "hot" fix that isn't available for general release yet. But 
> I specified XP, and it gave me a file that installed fine.
> 348411_ENU_i386_zip.exe at 715 K
>
> Art
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson 
wrote:
>> Seems that this is only for Vista. That is the only option I get and 
>> the file I received was a Vista installation file. I even opened it 
>> using the "expand" function, but this showed only Windows 6.0 related

>> files (mum and cab).  Is there a way to get this working on XP SP2?
>>
>> Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
>
> --
> Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent

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>  DoD 358
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 DoD 358

FM8 benefits

[Rene Stephenson]

Hi All,

I am working up a justification for a client to move from FM 7.2 to FM 8.0. 
Theirs is an unstructured FM environment with a shared-file architecture that 
uses a lot of text insets and condition tags and variables. I have told them 
that FM 8 would greatly simplify their condition catalog due to the use of 
boolean expressions to show/hide conditions, which would eliminate a lot of 
their "x+y" tags. But, since they already got the unlimited undo (well, more or 
less) in FM 7, they're not convinced that just the boolean conditions would be 
sufficient to justify the expense. I'm wondering if there's something else I'm 
missing, like being able to apply conditions to a column at a time, rather than 
just complete rows or text within a table cell...? Maybe there's something 
better about how FM 8 handles text insets?

It would help, I think, if they were a structured shop, because it seems most 
of the FM 8 benefits are targeted to the structured use of FM...but I'm happy 
to be corrected!

Thanks,


Rene L. Stephenson

FM8 benefits

[Linda G. Gallagher]

Rene,

I'm using the track edits feature so that my reviewers and I can see the
exact changes I make. It's a lot like Word's feature. Now, if only they'd
put all the controls at the book level, too.

HTH.


~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
User guides, online help, FrameMaker and
WebWorks ePublisher templates




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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rene Stephenson
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:18 PM
To: FrameUsers
Subject: FM8 benefits

Hi All,

I am working up a justification for a client to move from FM 7.2 to FM 8.0.
Theirs is an unstructured FM environment with a shared-file architecture
that uses a lot of text insets and condition tags and variables. I have told
them that FM 8 would greatly simplify their condition catalog due to the use
of boolean expressions to show/hide conditions, which would eliminate a lot
of their "x+y" tags. But, since they already got the unlimited undo (well,
more or less) in FM 7, they're not convinced that just the boolean
conditions would be sufficient to justify the expense. I'm wondering if
there's something else I'm missing, like being able to apply conditions to a
column at a time, rather than just complete rows or text within a table
cell...? Maybe there's something better about how FM 8 handles text insets?

It would help, I think, if they were a structured shop, because it seems
most of the FM 8 benefits are targeted to the structured use of FM...but I'm
happy to be corrected!

Thanks,


Rene L. Stephenson
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FM8 benefits

[Matt Sullivan]

There are a ton of features related to the TCS integration.

Specifically:
embedded 3d
interactive simulations
output to Help with simulations 
using FM conditions to output to multiple help formats & versions

If applicable, these more than justify the upgrade, but you need to upgrade
to the TCS, not just FM8



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-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rene Stephenson
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:18 PM
To: FrameUsers
Subject: FM8 benefits

Hi All,

I am working up a justification for a client to move from FM 7.2 to FM 8.0.
Theirs is an unstructured FM environment with a shared-file architecture
that uses a lot of text insets and condition tags and variables. I have told
them that FM 8 would greatly simplify their condition catalog due to the use
of boolean expressions to show/hide conditions, which would eliminate a lot
of their "x+y" tags. But, since they already got the unlimited undo (well,
more or less) in FM 7, they're not convinced that just the boolean
conditions would be sufficient to justify the expense. I'm wondering if
there's something else I'm missing, like being able to apply conditions to a
column at a time, rather than just complete rows or text within a table
cell...? Maybe there's something better about how FM 8 handles text insets?

It would help, I think, if they were a structured shop, because it seems
most of the FM 8 benefits are targeted to the structured use of FM...but I'm
happy to be corrected!

Thanks,


Rene L. Stephenson
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question about moving around in tables

[Deirdre Reagan]

Hi all:

Anyone know if we can use arrows to move from row to row in a table?

I'm on FM 8.0 on Windows XP.

The arrows don't move the cursor at all.

Thanks,

Deirdre

question about moving around in tables

[Paul Wilbraham]

Dierdre

You can use the "shortcuts" as follows:

Esc t m u (table move up)
Esc t m d

You can also make changes in a configuration file to replace these 
keystrokes with shorter sequences.

I have remapped them to F11 and F12.

--Paul Wilbraham

- Original Message - 
From: "Deirdre Reagan" 
To: "Framer's List" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:44 PM
Subject: question about moving around in tables


> Hi all:
>
> Anyone know if we can use arrows to move from row to row in a table?
>
> I'm on FM 8.0 on Windows XP.
>
> The arrows don't move the cursor at all.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deirdre
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question about moving around in tables

[Lester C. Smalley]

You can also just use TAB to move to the next cell across a row, then
back to the first cell of the next row, and it will wrap from the end of
the table back to the beginning.  Shift-tab moves backward through the
same cycle.

And there's also alt-control-tab to move downward through a column (and
loop back to the top) or alt-control-shift-tab to move upward in a
column.

I haven't tried it, but I presume you could remap these to the arrow
keys, but then you may lose their 'normal' insertion point motion which
I doubt you would want.  Take a look at the Customizing Frame online
manual (Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf, found at C:\Program
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\OnlineManuals in a typical Windows
installation)

On Tuesday, July 08, 2008 16:54, Paul Wilbraham wrote:

| Dierdre
| 
| You can use the "shortcuts" as follows:
| 
| Esc t m u (table move up)
| Esc t m d
| 
| You can also make changes in a configuration file to replace these
| keystrokes with shorter sequences.
| 
| I have remapped them to F11 and F12.
| 
| --Paul Wilbraham
| 
| - Original Message -
| 
| > Hi all:
| >
| > Anyone know if we can use arrows to move from row to row in a table?
| >
| > I'm on FM 8.0 on Windows XP.
| >
| > The arrows don't move the cursor at all.
| >
| > Thanks,
| >
| > Deirdre

- Lester 
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FM8 benefits

[Rene Stephenson]

Thanks, Matt. They already use WebWorks to get multiple help outputs using FM 
conditions for multiple versions and product-specific and market-specific 
versions, but I have mentioned the use of embedded 3D images and interactive 
drawings...until one of them went to the Adobe site and found out it's not as 
straight-forward as the marketing presentation made it seem, due to the need 
for a 3D graphic rendering program. And, RH in TCS doesn't work as 
transparently with the native FM files for single-sourcing as the old WWP, 
either. (As a matter of fact, I think it was someone on this list who pointed 
out that part...)  Personally, I think it's such a tight fiscal climate for 
them that any expenditure over about $200 is going to be a hard sell. I 
personally see the TCS value and will upgrade my personal copies, regardless of 
what the client does.


Rene L. Stephenson


- Original Message 
From: Matt Sullivan 
There are a ton of features related to the TCS integration.

Specifically:
embedded 3d
interactive simulations
output to Help with simulations 
using FM conditions to output to multiple help formats & versions

If applicable, these more than justify the upgrade, but you need to upgrade
to the TCS, not just FM8



-Matt Sullivan



GRAFIX Training, Inc.

An Adobe Authorized Training Center

www.grafixtraining.com

888 882-2819 


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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rene Stephenson
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:18 PM
To: FrameUsers
Subject: FM8 benefits

Hi All,

I am working up a justification for a client to move from FM 7.2 to FM 8.0.
Theirs is an unstructured FM environment with a shared-file architecture
that uses a lot of text insets and condition tags and variables. I have told
them that FM 8 would greatly simplify their condition catalog due to the use
of boolean expressions to show/hide conditions, which would eliminate a lot
of their "x+y" tags. But, since they already got the unlimited undo (well,
more or less) in FM 7, they're not convinced that just the boolean
conditions would be sufficient to justify the expense. I'm wondering if
there's something else I'm missing, like being able to apply conditions to a
column at a time, rather than just complete rows or text within a table
cell...? Maybe there's something better about how FM 8 handles text insets?

It would help, I think, if they were a structured shop, because it seems
most of the FM 8 benefits are targeted to the structured use of FM...but I'm
happy to be corrected!

Thanks,


Rene L. Stephenson
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FM8 benefits

[Rene Stephenson]

Book-level missing controls...de ja vous... like 5.5 all over again! Sounds 
like a job for (da-da-dahn) Super Frame Developer!  In fly the heroes from 
Silicon Prairie, FrameExpert, Systec, Cudspan, [itl], et al...!


Rene L. Stephenson




- Original Message 
From: Linda G. Gallagher 


Rene,

I'm using the track edits feature so that my reviewers and I can see the
exact changes I make. It's a lot like Word's feature. Now, if only they'd
put all the controls at the book level, too.

FM8 benefits

[Gutierrez, Dorianne]

Vista compatibility.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Stephenson
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:18 PM
To: FrameUsers
Subject: FM8 benefits

Hi All,

I am working up a justification for a client to move from FM 7.2 to FM
8.0. Theirs is an unstructured FM environment with a shared-file
architecture that uses a lot of text insets and condition tags and
variables. I have told them that FM 8 would greatly simplify their
condition catalog due to the use of boolean expressions to show/hide
conditions, which would eliminate a lot of their "x+y" tags. But, since
they already got the unlimited undo (well, more or less) in FM 7,
they're not convinced that just the boolean conditions would be
sufficient to justify the expense. I'm wondering if there's something
else I'm missing, like being able to apply conditions to a column at a
time, rather than just complete rows or text within a table cell...?
Maybe there's something better about how FM 8 handles text insets?

It would help, I think, if they were a structured shop, because it seems
most of the FM 8 benefits are targeted to the structured use of FM...but
I'm happy to be corrected!

Thanks,


Rene L. Stephenson
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