FrameMaker to PDF color shift problem

2008-11-11 Thread D L Reynolds
I need to use a slate blue color in a manual I'm creating -- rules  
and heading text. But no matter what color model I specify in  
FrameMaker, I get a garish cyan when the file is converted to PDF.  
This is only a problem with elements and text created in FrameMaker.  
Linked EPS files and screenshots are working just fine. And the color  
looks fine in FrameMaker; it only goes south in the PDF.

For the record, I've tried Pantone spot and process, RGB, web-safe,  
you name it. And I just keep getting shades of cyan. I've tried  
FrameMaker 7 and 8, same result. I'm using Windows XP and WebWorks  
Rasterizer to create the .ps file for distilling. (The Adobe PDF  
driver crashes FrameMaker on this machine.) From within Distiller,  
I've selected the Leave Color Unchanged option, but no luck.

Has anyone had experience with this sort of problem?

Many thanks,

--Donna Reynolds


Getting into Condition

2008-11-11 Thread Jeff Schweiner
John,

If I understand your production cycle correctly, there may be an easier
way than moving files around and tweaking your .book structure.  I do
something similar where I generate 2 books (call them A and B) from a
set of common chapter files.  I use a combination of two .book files
(including corresponding separate TOC, LOF, LOT files) and conditional
text to extract what I want for each book.  This method minimizes
duplicate files (e.g. two Introduction files) and minimizes what needs
to be tagged as conditional.

A given chapter file may contain context for:
- only book A
- only book B
- both A and B

Each .book file determines which chapter files are used in that book.
Files that contain only A-specific content are included only the A.book
file. Files that contain only B specific content are only in the B.book
file. Files that contain content for both books are included in both
.book files.

Conditional text is only required in the files that are used in both
books A and B. Content that is specific for only one book is must be
marked with the appropriate conditional tag.  This includes using
conditional tags on my master pages for the book title. Content that is
common to both books does not have to be tagged.  

When I want to update/print book A, I select all files in the A.book
window, show A-conditional text, and hide all B-conditional text.  Flip
the conditional settings when building book B.

If I did not use the two .book files, I would have a lot more
conditional tagging to do.  It really saves a ton of work. 

I have not tried this with four books, but I assume it works.  I also
don't use Structured Frame, so I can't comment on that.


HTH

--
Jeff Schweiner
Hardware Engineering Writer
Cray Inc.
(715) 726-4801



John wrote:


After years and years of working with FrameMaker, I am finally venturing
into (for me) uncharted territory: the wild world of conditional text.
I am not completely sure I understand what I am getting into, so I hope
for some advice from this august body.
I produce three types of deliverables from a single source, and am
adding a fourth deliverable: Printed, OnlineDoc, OnlineHelp, and now
Training. So far I have managed it all without conditions. The Training
materials will have some content that is not in the others, so
conditional text seems the way to go. 

My normal routine is to finish the writing phase and then to movine into
production of each deliverable one at a time, moving the source files
into a series of output folders for each deliverable. I go to Online Doc
folder and generate the color PDF. Then I go to Print Doc folder and
generate the hi-res B/W PDF. Then I go to Online Help, change the book
structure around a bit, and generate help with Mif2Go. Now I am adding a
fourth output, Training Materials, which will be PDF workbooks with
another different book structure.

Does it make sense to have four conditions (listed above), each of which
is shown throughout the writing phase of the project, and then
shown/hidden as I produce each of the deliverables? 

I hope to move into Structured FrameMaker soon - am I making that
project more complex by introducing conditions now?

A Lucky Strike! Extra question: the trainer wants x-refs to books in the
printed doc set. I know how to keep live x-refs within the training
materials, but I really can't imagine a way to keep good references to
external books.

John Sgammato
Principal Technical Writer
Imprivata, Inc.
[v] (781) 674-2441




long target names in xref dialog

2008-11-11 Thread Lin Sims
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Laurie Little  wrote:
> We have a document that is set up with the H1s as the menu path name (so as
> to facilitate auto-population of  online help).
>
> Some of these paths are quite long, with the result that the targets listed
> in the cross-reference dialog are indistinguishable because many start the
> same way, and the dialog box is not resizable.
>
> We have identified a few workarounds for this, including manually creating
> distinct cross-reference markers in the text, or (less desirable for this
> project) changing the structure of the H1s.
>
> Does anyone have any other ideas?
> Thanks,

Someone has a free plugin that will modify the size of a lot of the
dialogue boxes in Frame. It's listed as being good through about 7.1
or 7.2, but I think it'll work up to 8 (I'm trying it out now, in
fact).

http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker36.html



-- 
Lin Sims


long target names in xref dialog

2008-11-11 Thread Laurie Little
Thanks Stuart - I've received two offline suggestions along these lines and
am looking at it right now!
Thanks for all the on- and off-line responses!
Laurie


-Original Message-
From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:18 PM
To: Laurie Little
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: long target names in xref dialog


Laurie Little wrote:
> We have a document that is set up with the H1s as the menu path name (so
as
> to facilitate auto-population of  online help).
>
> Some of these paths are quite long, with the result that the targets
listed
> in the cross-reference dialog are indistinguishable because many start the
> same way, and the dialog box is not resizable.
>
> We have identified a few workarounds for this, including manually creating
> distinct cross-reference markers in the text, or (less desirable for this
> project) changing the structure of the H1s.
>
> Does anyone have any other ideas?
> Thanks,
>

You could use a Resource Editor like http://angusj.com/resourcehacker/
to resize your x-ref_main dialog box to accommodate longer names.

Make a backup of fmdlg.dll in Program Files > Adobe > Framemaker >
fminit before you mess with it though!

HTH,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If
we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people
for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love
of power."

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long target names in xref dialog

2008-11-11 Thread Stuart Rogers
Laurie Little wrote:
> We have a document that is set up with the H1s as the menu path name (so as
> to facilitate auto-population of  online help).
> 
> Some of these paths are quite long, with the result that the targets listed
> in the cross-reference dialog are indistinguishable because many start the
> same way, and the dialog box is not resizable.
> 
> We have identified a few workarounds for this, including manually creating
> distinct cross-reference markers in the text, or (less desirable for this
> project) changing the structure of the H1s.
> 
> Does anyone have any other ideas?
> Thanks,
> 

You could use a Resource Editor like http://angusj.com/resourcehacker/ 
to resize your x-ref_main dialog box to accommodate longer names.

Make a backup of fmdlg.dll in Program Files > Adobe > Framemaker > 
fminit before you mess with it though!

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If 
we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people 
for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love 
of power."

  ? P.J. O?Rourke


Wild Card Searches

2008-11-11 Thread qui...@airmail.net
The Frame search (wild card) feature is based upon grep. It's not a 
real implementation, or a full implementation in any stretch of the 
imagination. It's not fully documented as a search engine because 
it's only a small feature of the program.

However, if you spend sometime studying how grep works, then you will 
understand how Wildcards are used. Think of character patterns.

For instance the bracket wildcard allows you to search for characters 
except those in the brackets when you place a caret at the beginning 
of the string. You can search for specific patterns, or groups of 
patterns.

For instance:

[0-9]*.

Searches for a numerical pattern which can consist of single digits 
or multiple digits ending with a period. If you are replacing or 
removing a manually created list for example. That pattern will find 
1. as well as 100. as both fit the repeating pattern.

You could also search for a alphabetic string with a specific pattern 
and replace it by pasting in a variable.

Scott

At 8:25 AM -0600 11/11/08, Joseph wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I am using Frame 8 and I would like to take advantage of the wild card
>search functionality.  For example, I discovered that I could strip out
>empty paragraph tags by using \P\p.  Unfortunately, I have not been able to
>find much documentation about this feature.
>
>This leads me to the following questions.
>
>1. Does anyone know some good documentation about creating wild card
>searches in FrameMaker?  I found some basic information about the different
>characters you can use to create one, but very little about constructing
>useful searches.
>2. In addition, what wild card searches does everyone use?
>
>--
>Sincerely,
>
>Joseph Lorenzini


Re: Wild Card Searches

2008-11-11 Thread quills
The Frame search (wild card) feature is based upon grep. It's not a 
real implementation, or a full implementation in any stretch of the 
imagination. It's not fully documented as a search engine because 
it's only a small feature of the program.

However, if you spend sometime studying how grep works, then you will 
understand how Wildcards are used. Think of character patterns.

For instance the bracket wildcard allows you to search for characters 
except those in the brackets when you place a caret at the beginning 
of the string. You can search for specific patterns, or groups of 
patterns.

For instance:

[0-9]*.

Searches for a numerical pattern which can consist of single digits 
or multiple digits ending with a period. If you are replacing or 
removing a manually created list for example. That pattern will find 
1. as well as 100. as both fit the repeating pattern.

You could also search for a alphabetic string with a specific pattern 
and replace it by pasting in a variable.

Scott

At 8:25 AM -0600 11/11/08, Joseph wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I am using Frame 8 and I would like to take advantage of the wild card
>search functionality.  For example, I discovered that I could strip out
>empty paragraph tags by using \P\p.  Unfortunately, I have not been able to
>find much documentation about this feature.
>
>This leads me to the following questions.
>
>1. Does anyone know some good documentation about creating wild card
>searches in FrameMaker?  I found some basic information about the different
>characters you can use to create one, but very little about constructing
>useful searches.
>2. In addition, what wild card searches does everyone use?
>
>--
>Sincerely,
>
>Joseph Lorenzini
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Re: long target names in xref dialog

2008-11-11 Thread Dave Reynolds
I have used Resource Hacker with Frame 6 and 8 to resize various dialog 
boxes, including the cross reference dialog.  It's a very useful tool. 
And, yes, back up the fmdlg.dll before messing with it.  Just in case!  
Let me know if you need any help with this.

Cheers

Dave


Stuart Rogers wrote, on 12/11/2008 8:18 a.m.:
> Laurie Little wrote:
>   
>> We have a document that is set up with the H1s as the menu path name (so as
>> to facilitate auto-population of  online help).
>>
>> Some of these paths are quite long, with the result that the targets listed
>> in the cross-reference dialog are indistinguishable because many start the
>> same way, and the dialog box is not resizable.
>>
>> We have identified a few workarounds for this, including manually creating
>> distinct cross-reference markers in the text, or (less desirable for this
>> project) changing the structure of the H1s.
>>
>> Does anyone have any other ideas?
>> Thanks,
>>
>> 
>
> You could use a Resource Editor like http://angusj.com/resourcehacker/ 
> to resize your x-ref_main dialog box to accommodate longer names.
>
> Make a backup of fmdlg.dll in Program Files > Adobe > Framemaker > 
> fminit before you mess with it though!
>
> HTH,
>
>   

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Re: long target names in xref dialog

2008-11-11 Thread Lin Sims
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Laurie Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We have a document that is set up with the H1s as the menu path name (so as
> to facilitate auto-population of  online help).
>
> Some of these paths are quite long, with the result that the targets listed
> in the cross-reference dialog are indistinguishable because many start the
> same way, and the dialog box is not resizable.
>
> We have identified a few workarounds for this, including manually creating
> distinct cross-reference markers in the text, or (less desirable for this
> project) changing the structure of the H1s.
>
> Does anyone have any other ideas?
> Thanks,

Someone has a free plugin that will modify the size of a lot of the
dialogue boxes in Frame. It's listed as being good through about 7.1
or 7.2, but I think it'll work up to 8 (I'm trying it out now, in
fact).

http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker36.html



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long target names in xref dialog

2008-11-11 Thread Laurie Little
We have a document that is set up with the H1s as the menu path name (so as
to facilitate auto-population of  online help).

Some of these paths are quite long, with the result that the targets listed
in the cross-reference dialog are indistinguishable because many start the
same way, and the dialog box is not resizable.

We have identified a few workarounds for this, including manually creating
distinct cross-reference markers in the text, or (less desirable for this
project) changing the structure of the H1s.

Does anyone have any other ideas?
Thanks,


Laurie Little
Words That Work
905-947-1557

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Re: long target names in xref dialog

2008-11-11 Thread Stuart Rogers
Laurie Little wrote:
> We have a document that is set up with the H1s as the menu path name (so as
> to facilitate auto-population of  online help).
> 
> Some of these paths are quite long, with the result that the targets listed
> in the cross-reference dialog are indistinguishable because many start the
> same way, and the dialog box is not resizable.
> 
> We have identified a few workarounds for this, including manually creating
> distinct cross-reference markers in the text, or (less desirable for this
> project) changing the structure of the H1s.
> 
> Does anyone have any other ideas?
> Thanks,
> 

You could use a Resource Editor like http://angusj.com/resourcehacker/ 
to resize your x-ref_main dialog box to accommodate longer names.

Make a backup of fmdlg.dll in Program Files > Adobe > Framemaker > 
fminit before you mess with it though!

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If 
we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people 
for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love 
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long target names in xref dialog

2008-11-11 Thread Laurie Little
We have a document that is set up with the H1s as the menu path name (so as
to facilitate auto-population of  online help).

Some of these paths are quite long, with the result that the targets listed
in the cross-reference dialog are indistinguishable because many start the
same way, and the dialog box is not resizable.

We have identified a few workarounds for this, including manually creating
distinct cross-reference markers in the text, or (less desirable for this
project) changing the structure of the H1s.

Does anyone have any other ideas?
Thanks,


Laurie Little
Words That Work
905-947-1557



Wild Card Searches

2008-11-11 Thread Joseph
Hi All,

I am using Frame 8 and I would like to take advantage of the wild card
search functionality.  For example, I discovered that I could strip out
empty paragraph tags by using \P\p.  Unfortunately, I have not been able to
find much documentation about this feature.

This leads me to the following questions.

1. Does anyone know some good documentation about creating wild card
searches in FrameMaker?  I found some basic information about the different
characters you can use to create one, but very little about constructing
useful searches.
2. In addition, what wild card searches does everyone use?

-- 
Sincerely,

Joseph Lorenzini
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Wild Card Searches

2008-11-11 Thread Joseph
Hi All,

I am using Frame 8 and I would like to take advantage of the wild card
search functionality.  For example, I discovered that I could strip out
empty paragraph tags by using \P\p.  Unfortunately, I have not been able to
find much documentation about this feature.

This leads me to the following questions.

1. Does anyone know some good documentation about creating wild card
searches in FrameMaker?  I found some basic information about the different
characters you can use to create one, but very little about constructing
useful searches.
2. In addition, what wild card searches does everyone use?

-- 
Sincerely,

Joseph Lorenzini