Single sourcing 2 manuals and one help

[Andersen, Verner Engell VEA]

Hi
I am single-sourcing 2 paper manuals and one online help in one. The
online help is implemented in Webworks Publisher where you globally can
define what conditions to hide and what to show.
 
What do you suggest for the manual order number: Variables or
conditional text?
How do you handle conditions that only exist in some documents, to make
sure that you get the right output?
 
I have the following output combinations:
 
online + release 14
online + release 15
Paper + release 14 + variant a  (as either conditional text or
variables) 
Paper + release 15 + variant b (as either conditional text or variables)

 
Some of the chapters only belong to the paper manual.
 
I believe that the foolproof thing is to import all conditions to all
files in the book and set the whole book to the various output
combinations.
 
On the other and it seems a bit superfluos to have files with
conditional text definitions that are not used.
 
 
Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
Verner Andersen
Technical Writer

Radiometer Medical ApS
Phone +45 3827 3612
Fax +45 3827 2727
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Globally updating x-refs

[Nancy Allison]

Hello. I'm about to break a 70-page chapter into three chapters.

Having split chapters before, I know what's going to happen: All of the 
x-refs to targets in the newly-created chapter will break. In other 
words:

Chapter 4 becomes Chapter 4,  5, and 6.

Now, all x-refs to the text that is now in chapters 5 and 6 will break.

Is there a global way to avoid this problem, or to fix it?

Thanks.

--Nancy
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Re: Globally updating x-refs

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Nancy,

After you split the files, open each one and choose Edit  Update 
References. Check the All Cross-References check box and click Update. In 
the resulting dialog box, you have an oportunity to point to the other 
documents. All of the unresolved cross-references will be to the current 
document, but go ahead and point to one of the other documents and click 
Open. Keep doing this until the number of cross-references ends up being 
zero and click Cancel to exit the dialog box.

Note that if you do a lot of splitting, I have a FrameScript script that 
will split the files based on paragraph formats and will automatically 
resolve the references. If you are interested in this, please contact me 
offlist. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

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From: Nancy Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:38 AM
Subject: Globally updating x-refs



 Hello. I'm about to break a 70-page chapter into three chapters.

 Having split chapters before, I know what's going to happen: All of the
 x-refs to targets in the newly-created chapter will break. In other
 words:

 Chapter 4 becomes Chapter 4,  5, and 6.

 Now, all x-refs to the text that is now in chapters 5 and 6 will break.

 Is there a global way to avoid this problem, or to fix it?

 Thanks.

 --Nancy
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Re: Globally updating x-refs

[Nancy Allison]

  Thanks, guys!

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Art Campbell wrote:

 What you can try (works for me, but because you didn't post your
version / OS info, there may be some gotchas involved).
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Re: Globally updating x-refs

[Art Campbell]

What you can try (works for me, but because you didn't post your
version / OS info, there may be some gotchas involved).

ON DISK, copy your source chapter file (S-0) to create the two
additional chapter files (S-1 and S-2).

IN THE BOOK FILE:

* Add the two new files in the appropriate place. You now have three
copies of the original chapter in the book, with different file names.
But all the cross-refs should still be working. Update and save the
book file.

* Open your S-0 and cut all the material that's moving to S-1 and S-2.
Save the file and update the book.

* Open S-1 and cut the material that's in the other chapters. Save the
file and update the book.

* Repeat for S-2.

Art


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Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Nancy Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello. I'm about to break a 70-page chapter into three chapters.

 Having split chapters before, I know what's going to happen: All of the
 x-refs to targets in the newly-created chapter will break. In other
 words:

 Chapter 4 becomes Chapter 4,  5, and 6.

 Now, all x-refs to the text that is now in chapters 5 and 6 will break.

 Is there a global way to avoid this problem, or to fix it?

 Thanks.

 --Nancy
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RE: Globally updating x-refs

[Lester C. Smalley]

This works for XRefs that were within the original chapter.  But XRefs
in other chapters pointing to targets in the file being split may still
end up breaking because the target filename changes.

FrameMaker's fix unresolved cross-references dialog will allow you to
point to a new target file for all broken links, so may need to be run
twice (once to fix targets in each of the newly created files) for each
other chapter which references info in the original chapter.

On Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:57, Art Campbell wrote:
 
| What you can try (works for me, but because you didn't post your
| version / OS info, there may be some gotchas involved).
| 
| ON DISK, copy your source chapter file (S-0) to create the two
| additional chapter files (S-1 and S-2).
| 
| IN THE BOOK FILE:
| 
| * Add the two new files in the appropriate place. You now have three
| copies of the original chapter in the book, with different file names.
| But all the cross-refs should still be working. Update and save the
| book file.
| 
| * Open your S-0 and cut all the material that's moving to S-1 and S-2.
| Save the file and update the book.
| 
| * Open S-1 and cut the material that's in the other chapters. Save the
| file and update the book.
| 
| * Repeat for S-2.
| 
| Art
| 
| 
| Art Campbell
|   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
| Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
|   No disclaimers apply.
|   DoD 358
| 
| On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Nancy Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| wrote:
|
|  Hello. I'm about to break a 70-page chapter into three chapters.
| 
|  Having split chapters before, I know what's going to happen: All
|  of the x-refs to targets in the newly-created chapter will break.
|  In other words:
| 
|  Chapter 4 becomes Chapter 4,  5, and 6.
| 
|  Now, all x-refs to the text that is now in chapters 5 and 6 will
|  break.
| 
|  Is there a global way to avoid this problem, or to fix it?
| 
|  Thanks.
| 
|  --Nancy

- Lester 
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Footnote placement

[Christopher Seal]

FrameMaker 7.2 on WinXP

A document I am working on has many footnotes.

Sometimes a footnote reference in text is on one page but the footnote is on 
the following page.

From an editorial viewpoint is it OK to have a footnote on the page 
following the in-text reference?
If not OK, how do I get FrameMaker to ensure the footnote is on the same 
page as its reference?

...Chris


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Single sourcing 2 manuals and one help

[Andersen, Verner Engell VEA]

Hi
I am single-sourcing 2 paper manuals and one online help in one. The
online help is implemented in Webworks Publisher where you globally can
define what conditions to hide and what to show.

What do you suggest for the manual order number: Variables or
conditional text?
How do you handle conditions that only exist in some documents, to make
sure that you get the right output?

I have the following output combinations:

online + release 14
online + release 15
Paper + release 14 + variant a  (as either conditional text or
variables) 
Paper + release 15 + variant b (as either conditional text or variables)


Some of the chapters only belong to the paper manual.

I believe that the foolproof thing is to import all conditions to all
files in the book and set the whole book to the various output
combinations.

On the other and it seems a bit superfluos to have files with
conditional text definitions that are not used.


Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
Verner Andersen
Technical Writer

Radiometer Medical ApS
Phone +45 3827 3612
Fax +45 3827 2727
verner.andersen at radiometer.dk




Radiometer Medical ApS 
Akandevej 21 
2700 Bronshoj 
Denmark 
Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 
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Globally updating x-refs

[Nancy Allison]

Hello. I'm about to break a 70-page chapter into three chapters.

Having split chapters before, I know what's going to happen: All of the 
x-refs to targets in the newly-created chapter will break. In other 
words:

Chapter 4 becomes Chapter 4,  5, and 6.

Now, all x-refs to the text that is now in chapters 5 and 6 will break.

Is there a global way to avoid this problem, or to fix it?

Thanks.

--Nancy

Globally updating x-refs

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Nancy,

After you split the files, open each one and choose Edit > Update 
References. Check the All Cross-References check box and click Update. In 
the resulting dialog box, you have an oportunity to point to the other 
documents. All of the unresolved cross-references will be to the current 
document, but go ahead and point to one of the other documents and click 
Open. Keep doing this until the number of cross-references ends up being 
zero and click Cancel to exit the dialog box.

Note that if you do a lot of splitting, I have a FrameScript script that 
will split the files based on paragraph formats and will automatically 
resolve the references. If you are interested in this, please contact me 
offlist. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Nancy Allison" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:38 AM
Subject: Globally updating x-refs


>
> Hello. I'm about to break a 70-page chapter into three chapters.
>
> Having split chapters before, I know what's going to happen: All of the
> x-refs to targets in the newly-created chapter will break. In other
> words:
>
> Chapter 4 becomes Chapter 4,  5, and 6.
>
> Now, all x-refs to the text that is now in chapters 5 and 6 will break.
>
> Is there a global way to avoid this problem, or to fix it?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --Nancy
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Globally updating x-refs

[Nancy Allison]

  Thanks, guys!

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Art Campbell wrote:

> What you can try (works for me, but because you didn't post your
version / OS info, there may be some gotchas involved).

Globally updating x-refs

[Art Campbell]

What you can try (works for me, but because you didn't post your
version / OS info, there may be some gotchas involved).

ON DISK, copy your source chapter file (S-0) to create the two
additional chapter files (S-1 and S-2).

IN THE BOOK FILE:

* Add the two new files in the appropriate place. You now have three
copies of the original chapter in the book, with different file names.
But all the cross-refs should still be working. Update and save the
book file.

* Open your S-0 and cut all the material that's moving to S-1 and S-2.
Save the file and update the book.

* Open S-1 and cut the material that's in the other chapters. Save the
file and update the book.

* Repeat for S-2.

Art


Art Campbell
  art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Nancy Allison  wrote:
>
> Hello. I'm about to break a 70-page chapter into three chapters.
>
> Having split chapters before, I know what's going to happen: All of the
> x-refs to targets in the newly-created chapter will break. In other
> words:
>
> Chapter 4 becomes Chapter 4,  5, and 6.
>
> Now, all x-refs to the text that is now in chapters 5 and 6 will break.
>
> Is there a global way to avoid this problem, or to fix it?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --Nancy
> ___
>
>
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Globally updating x-refs

[Lester C. Smalley]

This works for XRefs that were within the original chapter.  But XRefs
in other chapters pointing to targets in the file being split may still
end up breaking because the target filename changes.

FrameMaker's fix unresolved cross-references dialog will allow you to
point to a new target file for all broken links, so may need to be run
twice (once to fix targets in each of the newly created files) for each
other chapter which references info in the original chapter.

On Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:57, Art Campbell wrote:

| What you can try (works for me, but because you didn't post your
| version / OS info, there may be some gotchas involved).
| 
| ON DISK, copy your source chapter file (S-0) to create the two
| additional chapter files (S-1 and S-2).
| 
| IN THE BOOK FILE:
| 
| * Add the two new files in the appropriate place. You now have three
| copies of the original chapter in the book, with different file names.
| But all the cross-refs should still be working. Update and save the
| book file.
| 
| * Open your S-0 and cut all the material that's moving to S-1 and S-2.
| Save the file and update the book.
| 
| * Open S-1 and cut the material that's in the other chapters. Save the
| file and update the book.
| 
| * Repeat for S-2.
| 
| Art
| 
| 
| Art Campbell
|   art.campbell at gmail.com
|  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
| Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
|   No disclaimers apply.
|   DoD 358
| 
| On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Nancy Allison 
| wrote:
|
| > Hello. I'm about to break a 70-page chapter into three chapters.
| >
| > Having split chapters before, I know what's going to happen: All
| > of the x-refs to targets in the newly-created chapter will break.
| > In other words:
| >
| > Chapter 4 becomes Chapter 4,  5, and 6.
| >
| > Now, all x-refs to the text that is now in chapters 5 and 6 will
| > break.
| >
| > Is there a global way to avoid this problem, or to fix it?
| >
| > Thanks.
| >
| > --Nancy

- Lester 
---
Lester C. Smalley   lsmalley AT infocon DOT com 
Information Consultants, Inc.   302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712  
Yorklyn, DE  19736  www.infocon.com 
---

Footnote placement

[Christopher Seal]

FrameMaker 7.2 on WinXP

A document I am working on has many footnotes.

Sometimes a footnote reference in text is on one page but the footnote is on 
the following page.

>From an editorial viewpoint is it OK to have a footnote on the page 
following the in-text reference?
If not OK, how do I get FrameMaker to ensure the footnote is on the same 
page as its reference?

...Chris

Import picture problem

[Smriga, James Andrew (Jim)]

Hi,

When I try to import object into a ancored fram, I get two dots and not
the picture.

Any ideas to why this is happening. 

Thanks,

Jim