Re: Summation/Integral symbols show as ? in FM8

2008-12-05 Thread Shlomo Perets
Charles,

You wrote:

When using FrameMaker 8.0p277 (Windows XP), larger symbols (such as
Summation and Integral) in equations appear and print as question
marks.

The problem applies to new equations and to existing equations that
display/print correctly in FM 7.2.

When searching the web for info, I found similar reports relating to
the FM8.0 trial version, but no suggestions for fixes/workarounds.

Is it possible that this bug has not been addressed since? Anyone
successfully using FM8.0/Windows with equations?


[You posted the message on Nov. 8, but I do not see any responses.]

If the problem is still there, try the following:
In Windows' Regional and Language Options, under Advanced, select English 
under the field titled Select a language to match the language version of 
the non-Unicode programs you want to use:. Restart the computer (typically 
required) and try again.


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RE: FILENAME markers for mid-topic IDs

2008-12-05 Thread John Pitt
Olga and Richard,

eP changes the name of the topic's default html file to use the text of 
the Filename marker. This is fine if there is only one in a topic, but 
as soon it encounters another in the same topic, it changes the html 
filename again. This effectively deletes the location of Filename number 1.

If you always have only one marker in a topic, continue to use Filename. 
But if you have two or more you need to use TopicAlias markers instead.

TopicAlias markers are designed for situations where there are two or 
more markers in a topic. They do not change the filename, but instead 
append text of the TopicAlias marker PLUS the MIF paragraph number to 
the default eP filename. Because it has the MIF paragraph ID attached, 
the topic should appear already scrolled to display the location when 
called by the app.

You will need to change your Filename type markers to TopicAlias type, 
which you can do with a search and destroy of the .MIF. Sounds a lot of 
work, but in reality quickly done with a decent text editor. You will 
also need to create a new marker type called TopicAlias before doing 
this as it is not a standard Frame marker.

Your application should call the unique ID General (if that is the 
text in the TopicAlias marker inserted in Frame).

Unfortunately I don't have any examples here to make the above a bit 
simpler, but HTH anyway.

jjj


Olga Klenner wrote:

   We use filename markers in FM  to generate context-sensitive help with
   WWP.
   How can I create a filename marker for a mid-topic ID?
  
   e.g.
   Help page is  About.html = FILENAME marker input is About. This
is
   easy.
   But: Help page is Options.html#General = what do I have to enter
into
   the FILENAME marker? If I type Options#General into the FILENAME
marker
   a page is created called Options#General.html which in not what is
   needed.

I recently needed to do something like that in ePublisher Pro 9.2. The
solution there was to insert TopicAlias markers, not Filename markers,
in FM.

In ePP, the TopicAlias marker type is set to a value of Topic alias.
Since I started from an existing FM/ePP project, I'm not sure if someone
had to set this up manually or it's there by default.

I still have a minor annoyance, though (and maybe some WebWorks guru can
straighten me out). Although ePP obediently inserts an anchor tag in the
HTML where the TopicAlias marker was, the anchor's name attribute is a
numeric value instead of my marker text.

In the application's onlinehelp.props file, which provides the
context-sensitive help mapping, I'd much rather specify the topic as,
say, Options.html#General instead of Options.html#123456. Is there a
simple way to tell ePP to use the marker text for the anchor name?

Richard


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Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics

2008-12-05 Thread Christopher Seal
FrameMaker 7.2
Windows XP Pro

I have a FrameMaker document that incorporates PDF graphics within anchored 
frames. When trying to make a PDF of this document the process stops once 
the first PDF page is encountered.

What do I need to do to create a PDF from a FrameMaker document that 
contains referenced PDF pages? The document displays OK and prints OK.

BTW. The referenced PDFs are a sequence of pages from a PDF document. They 
are inserted by reference.

Regards...Chris


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RE: Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics

2008-12-05 Thread Combs, Richard
Christopher Seal wrote: 
 
 I have a FrameMaker document that incorporates PDF graphics within
anchored
 frames. When trying to make a PDF of this document the process stops
once
 the first PDF page is encountered.
 
 What do I need to do to create a PDF from a FrameMaker document that
 contains referenced PDF pages? The document displays OK and prints OK.

You shouldn't need to do anything special, it should just work. Many of
my FM books contain referenced PDFs -- sixty-odd flow diagrams from
Visio, in one case (PDF is the best way to get Visio output into FM,
IMHO). I've never had a problem. 

What do you mean by the process stops? Is Distiller reporting an error
and aborting the job? What does the log say? Distiller error messages
are generally somewhat inscrutable to me, but there are people on this
list who can translate them into English for you. :-)

Are you using Save As PDF or Print to Adobe PDF? Try the other. 

If you're always getting an error on the first page containing a PDF, it
might be just that specific PDF, or even something else on that page.
Try printing other pages containing PDFs, one at a time, to the Adobe
PDF printer. 

HTH!
Richard


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RE: Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics

2008-12-05 Thread Christopher Seal
Thank you to those who responded.

I found there is a problem with one of the PDF pages. The error message I 
got was:
-
%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
%%[Page: 1]%%
%%[ Error: invalidfont; OffendingCommand: definefont; ErrorInfo: .notdef 
--nostringval-- ]%%

Stack:
/Font
-dict-
/Garamond-BookCondensedItalic


%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%

Now I have to find out how to fix this issue in the PDF.

Regards...Chris


From: Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Christopher Seal [EMAIL PROTECTED],framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:09:09 -0700

Christopher Seal wrote:

  I have a FrameMaker document that incorporates PDF graphics within
anchored
  frames. When trying to make a PDF of this document the process stops
once
  the first PDF page is encountered.
 
  What do I need to do to create a PDF from a FrameMaker document that
  contains referenced PDF pages? The document displays OK and prints OK.

You shouldn't need to do anything special, it should just work. Many of
my FM books contain referenced PDFs -- sixty-odd flow diagrams from
Visio, in one case (PDF is the best way to get Visio output into FM,
IMHO). I've never had a problem.

What do you mean by the process stops? Is Distiller reporting an error
and aborting the job? What does the log say? Distiller error messages
are generally somewhat inscrutable to me, but there are people on this
list who can translate them into English for you. :-)

Are you using Save As PDF or Print to Adobe PDF? Try the other.

If you're always getting an error on the first page containing a PDF, it
might be just that specific PDF, or even something else on that page.
Try printing other pages containing PDFs, one at a time, to the Adobe
PDF printer.

HTH!
Richard


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RE: Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics

2008-12-05 Thread Christopher Seal
Thanks Jo.
The problem was a bad PDF page. See my follow up post ...

Regards...Chris


From: Jo Watkiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Christopher Seal [EMAIL PROTECTED],framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:09:18 -

The only time I've witnessed this is when the referenced PDF is
encrypted.  Worth a check?

Jo Watkiss

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Subject: Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics

FrameMaker 7.2
Windows XP Pro

I have a FrameMaker document that incorporates PDF graphics within
anchored frames. When trying to make a PDF of this document the process
stops once the first PDF page is encountered.

What do I need to do to create a PDF from a FrameMaker document that
contains referenced PDF pages? The document displays OK and prints OK.

BTW. The referenced PDFs are a sequence of pages from a PDF document.
They are inserted by reference.

Regards...Chris


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RE: Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics

2008-12-05 Thread Christopher Seal
My work around is to type the offending page in FrameMaker and use available 
fonts.

The other PDF pages are OK.

Regards...Chris


From: Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:33:20 -0500


My guess would be that the PDF you are inserting does not have
fonts embedded and that your system does not have the matching
fonts installed to allow you to embed them in the PDF you are making.If so, 
there is no nice way out of the situation other than obtaining
a legitimate installation of the font for your system.-Fred Ridder
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: 
Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics Date: Fri, 
5 Dec 2008 17:27:52 + CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thank you to 
those who responded.  I found there is a problem with one of the PDF 
pages. The error message I  got was: - %%[ 
ProductName: Distiller ]%% %%[Page: 1]%% %%[ Error: invalidfont; 
OffendingCommand: definefont; ErrorInfo: .notdef  --nostringval-- ]%%  
Stack: /Font -dict- /Garamond-BookCondensedItalic   %%[ Flushing: 
rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% %%[ Warning: PostScript 
error. No PDF file produced. ] %%  Now I have to 
find out how to fix this issue in the PDF.  Regards...Chris   From: 
Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Christopher Seal 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Making 
PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics Date: Fri, 5 Dec 
2008 10:09:09 -0700  Christopher Seal wrote:I have a 
FrameMaker document that incorporates PDF graphics within anchored   
frames. When trying to make a PDF of this document the process stops 
 once   the first PDF page is encountered. What do I need to 
do to create a PDF from a FrameMaker document that   contains referenced 
PDF pages? The document displays OK and prints OK.  You shouldn't need 
to do anything special, it should just work. Many of my FM books contain 
referenced PDFs -- sixty-odd flow diagrams from Visio, in one case (PDF 
is the best way to get Visio output into FM, IMHO). I've never had a 
problem.  What do you mean by the process stops? Is Distiller 
reporting an error and aborting the job? What does the log say? Distiller 
error messages are generally somewhat inscrutable to me, but there are 
people on this list who can translate them into English for you. :-)  
 Are you using Save As PDF or Print to Adobe PDF? Try the other.  If 
you're always getting an error on the first page containing a PDF, it 
 might be just that specific PDF, or even something else on that page. 
 Try printing other pages containing PDFs, one at a time, to the Adobe 
 PDF printer.  HTH! Richard   Richard G. Combs Senior 
Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 
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RE: Framers Digest, Vol 38, Issue 4 - Structured Markers/IXGen

2008-12-05 Thread Indira Rimkeit
Hi Gary,

We have elements in our EDD (M-Index and others), which use FrameMaker markers. 
When you insert one from the element catalog, it brings up the Insert Marker 
dialog. These are XML elements, which are preserved on XML round-tripping. 
However, if you insert an unstructured marker using Special  Markers, when you 
save as XML, they are dropped.

Indira Rimkeit
Technical Publications
Redback Networks, an Ericsson company
---snip
Can you explain what you mean by structured markers? I thought markers
were the same regardless of whether or not you are using structure.

 We also used IXGen for editing indexes before we moved to structure,
but found that is doesn't work with structured markers.
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Re: Merged Project

2008-12-05 Thread Judy Bragg
Art wrote: This probably isn't the kind of advice that you're hoping to get, 
but
the way that you're setting stuff up is so far from the standard way
that FM and RH work that you're way off the edge.
As you probably know, the normal way to work, and the way the programs
work best, is to build a book in FM that contains all the chapter
files. IF... it really takes forever to update files and that's your
reason for not using a standard workflow, that would tell me that
there's something wrong with your setup. I know that I'm working on
several books with 500-600 pages and all the files are on a server...
and it takes maybe 2-3 minutes to update all insets, graphics, and
generate the TOC and Index. Which I can live with.
Your note that the system fails when you try to work correctly is
another key that you've got basic system or configuration problems.
Normal work doesn't cause systems to fail.
So the right direction would be to find and fix the underlying
problem, rather than look for additional kludges. Which would involve
supplying a lot more details about your system, RAM, free space,
network config and so on...I have no idea what is standard for setting up 
FM. It makes sense to me,
but if I need to change it somehow I'll be glad to know what the proper way is! 
 Here's what I've done:StructuredFM-Ch1
-Ch2
-Ch3...etc
-Graphics-Ch1
 -ch2
 -Ch3-TextInsets (Sub-files by subject matter)
-Books
 
The Books folder contains all books--Full Manual, as well as the smaller 
chapter books--and their TOC and IX files.There is no network involved 
anywhere.  I'm a lone writer so everything remains on my laptop.My system: 
Windows XP SP3, Intel Core Duo CPU (2GHz) and 3.49Gb RAM.  
I have almost 73Gb of free HD space and the current size of that whole 
StructuredFM folder is only 4.6Gb.
My full manual is about 1350 pgs.Also, it's not updating the books' TOC, IX, 
Xrefs, etc that takes so long.  It's updating their references in RH that takes 
forever.I look forward to hearing your suggestions.  Thanks so much for your 
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asterisks and footnote numbers

2008-12-05 Thread Tina Ricks
Hello,

 

I'm doing editing and layout of a large set of academic papers that have
loads of footnotes. The organization I'm working for wants to use both
asterisks AND footnotes in the papers.

 

An asterisk is usually after the paper title, and has notes about where this
paper was previously published. Some papers have asterisks on the titles,
some do not.

 

The footnotes in the main body of the text are typical footnotes (source
citations, etc.) and are numbered 1, 2, 3, etc.

 

Frame doesn't handle this well. Footnote numbering (Format  Document 
Numbering  Footnote) either has numeric or custom (symbols) but not both
mixed in the same footnote series. 

 

I tried setting up a custom numbering format (*1234 etc.) but Frame's
numbering feature gives error messages when one chapter is different from
the rest in the book, and changes it back to the way the rest of the book
is.

 

Has anyone dealt with this? Word actually allows symbols and numbers in the
same series, but Frame doesn't.

 

Tina Ricks, Editor
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www.trialguides.com http://www.trialguides.com/  

 

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Cross reference links - Loss of color formatting

2008-12-05 Thread Venkat
Hello,

I was wonder if this problem can be solved.

I have a large amount of cross-references in my documents. I am using 2
formatting instructions

1. <$paratext>
2. Appendix <$paranum[Chapter Num]>,
<$paratext>

This cross-ref formats are used predominantly through the document.

The above formats are not applied in some cases and in most of the others it
is applied properly. I do "update references" every time. I do not get
consistent results.

What could be the issue and how can i solve this ?

Regards,
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Cross reference links - Loss of color formatting

2008-12-05 Thread Shlomo Perets
Venkatesh,

You wrote:

>I have a large amount of cross-references in my documents. I am using 2
>formatting instructions
>
>1. <$paratext>
>2. Appendix <$paranum[Chapter Num]>,
><$paratext>
>
>This cross-ref formats are used predominantly through the document.
>
>The above formats are not applied in some cases and in most of the others it
>is applied properly. I do "update references" every time. I do not get
>consistent results.
>
>What could be the issue and how can i solve this ?

When the cross-reference format uses multiple character formats, the book's 
Generate/Update function ignores the first one.
(This applies to FM5 through FM8).

Workaround: Create a single character format that has all the properties 
you need, and modify the cross-reference format accordingly.

For example: Define a "Link" character format that sets both blue and 
italic, and modify the cross-reference format to <$paratext>


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Summation/Integral symbols show as ? in FM8

2008-12-05 Thread Shlomo Perets
Charles,

You wrote:

>When using FrameMaker 8.0p277 (Windows XP), larger symbols (such as
>Summation and Integral) in equations appear and print as question
>marks.
>
>The problem applies to new equations and to existing equations that
>display/print correctly in FM 7.2.
>
>When searching the web for info, I found similar reports relating to
>the FM8.0 trial version, but no suggestions for fixes/workarounds.
>
>Is it possible that this bug has not been addressed since? Anyone
>successfully using FM8.0/Windows with equations?


[You posted the message on Nov. 8, but I do not see any responses.]

If the problem is still there, try the following:
In Windows' Regional and Language Options, under Advanced, select English 
under the field titled "Select a language to match the language version of 
the non-Unicode programs you want to use:". Restart the computer (typically 
required) and try again.


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FILENAME markers for mid-topic IDs

2008-12-05 Thread John Pitt
Olga and Richard,

eP changes the name of the topic's default html file to use the text of 
the Filename marker. This is fine if there is only one in a topic, but 
as soon it encounters another in the same topic, it changes the html 
filename again. This effectively deletes the location of Filename number 1.

If you always have only one marker in a topic, continue to use Filename. 
But if you have two or more you need to use TopicAlias markers instead.

TopicAlias markers are designed for situations where there are two or 
more markers in a topic. They do not change the filename, but instead 
append text of the TopicAlias marker PLUS the MIF paragraph number to 
the default eP filename. Because it has the MIF paragraph ID attached, 
the topic should appear already scrolled to display the location when 
called by the app.

You will need to change your Filename type markers to TopicAlias type, 
which you can do with a search and destroy of the .MIF. Sounds a lot of 
work, but in reality quickly done with a decent text editor. You will 
also need to create a new marker type called TopicAlias before doing 
this as it is not a standard Frame marker.

Your application should call the unique ID "General" (if that is the 
text in the TopicAlias marker inserted in Frame).

Unfortunately I don't have any examples here to make the above a bit 
simpler, but HTH anyway.

jjj


Olga Klenner wrote:

 > > We use filename markers in FM  to generate context-sensitive help with
 > > WWP.
 > > How can I create a filename marker for a mid-topic ID?
 > >
 > > e.g.
 > > Help page is  "About.html" => FILENAME marker input is "About". This
is
 > > easy.
 > > But: Help page is "Options.html#General" => what do I have to enter
into
 > > the FILENAME marker? If I type "Options#General" into the FILENAME
marker
 > > a page is created called "Options#General.html which in not what is
 > > needed.

I recently needed to do something like that in ePublisher Pro 9.2. The
solution there was to insert TopicAlias markers, not Filename markers,
in FM.

In ePP, the TopicAlias marker type is set to a value of "Topic alias."
Since I started from an existing FM/ePP project, I'm not sure if someone
had to set this up manually or it's there by default.

I still have a minor annoyance, though (and maybe some WebWorks guru can
straighten me out). Although ePP obediently inserts an anchor tag in the
HTML where the TopicAlias marker was, the anchor's name attribute is a
numeric value instead of my marker text.

In the application's onlinehelp.props file, which provides the
context-sensitive help mapping, I'd much rather specify the topic as,
say, "Options.html#General" instead of "Options.html#123456." Is there a
simple way to tell ePP to use the marker text for the anchor name?

Richard


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Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics

2008-12-05 Thread Christopher Seal
FrameMaker 7.2
Windows XP Pro

I have a FrameMaker document that incorporates PDF graphics within anchored 
frames. When trying to make a PDF of this document the process stops once 
the first PDF page is encountered.

What do I need to do to create a PDF from a FrameMaker document that 
contains referenced PDF pages? The document displays OK and prints OK.

BTW. The referenced PDFs are a sequence of pages from a PDF document. They 
are inserted by reference.

Regards...Chris




Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics

2008-12-05 Thread Combs, Richard
Christopher Seal wrote: 

> I have a FrameMaker document that incorporates PDF graphics within
anchored
> frames. When trying to make a PDF of this document the process stops
once
> the first PDF page is encountered.
> 
> What do I need to do to create a PDF from a FrameMaker document that
> contains referenced PDF pages? The document displays OK and prints OK.

You shouldn't need to do anything special, it should just work. Many of
my FM books contain referenced PDFs -- sixty-odd flow diagrams from
Visio, in one case (PDF is the best way to get Visio output into FM,
IMHO). I've never had a problem. 

What do you mean by "the process stops"? Is Distiller reporting an error
and aborting the job? What does the log say? Distiller error messages
are generally somewhat inscrutable to me, but there are people on this
list who can translate them into English for you. :-)

Are you using Save As PDF or Print to Adobe PDF? Try the other. 

If you're always getting an error on the first page containing a PDF, it
might be just that specific PDF, or even something else on that page.
Try printing other pages containing PDFs, one at a time, to the Adobe
PDF printer. 

HTH!
Richard


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
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303-777-0436
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Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics

2008-12-05 Thread Christopher Seal
Thank you to those who responded.

I found there is a problem with one of the PDF pages. The error message I 
got was:
-
%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
%%[Page: 1]%%
%%[ Error: invalidfont; OffendingCommand: definefont; ErrorInfo: .notdef 
--nostringval-- ]%%

Stack:
/Font
-dict-
/Garamond-BookCondensedItalic


%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%

Now I have to find out how to fix this issue in the PDF.

Regards...Chris


>From: "Combs, Richard" 
>To: "Christopher Seal" ,lists.frameusers.com>
>Subject: RE: Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics
>Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:09:09 -0700
>
>Christopher Seal wrote:
>
> > I have a FrameMaker document that incorporates PDF graphics within
>anchored
> > frames. When trying to make a PDF of this document the process stops
>once
> > the first PDF page is encountered.
> >
> > What do I need to do to create a PDF from a FrameMaker document that
> > contains referenced PDF pages? The document displays OK and prints OK.
>
>You shouldn't need to do anything special, it should just work. Many of
>my FM books contain referenced PDFs -- sixty-odd flow diagrams from
>Visio, in one case (PDF is the best way to get Visio output into FM,
>IMHO). I've never had a problem.
>
>What do you mean by "the process stops"? Is Distiller reporting an error
>and aborting the job? What does the log say? Distiller error messages
>are generally somewhat inscrutable to me, but there are people on this
>list who can translate them into English for you. :-)
>
>Are you using Save As PDF or Print to Adobe PDF? Try the other.
>
>If you're always getting an error on the first page containing a PDF, it
>might be just that specific PDF, or even something else on that page.
>Try printing other pages containing PDFs, one at a time, to the Adobe
>PDF printer.
>
>HTH!
>Richard
>
>
>Richard G. Combs
>Senior Technical Writer
>Polycom, Inc.
>richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
>303-223-5111
>--
>rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
>303-777-0436
>--
>
>
>
>
>




Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics

2008-12-05 Thread Christopher Seal
Thanks Jo.
The problem was a bad PDF page. See my follow up post ...

Regards...Chris


>From: "Jo Watkiss" 
>To: "Christopher Seal" ,lists.frameusers.com>
>Subject: RE: Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics
>Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:09:18 -
>
>The only time I've witnessed this is when the referenced PDF is
>encrypted.  Worth a check?
>
>Jo Watkiss
>
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>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics
>
>FrameMaker 7.2
>Windows XP Pro
>
>I have a FrameMaker document that incorporates PDF graphics within
>anchored frames. When trying to make a PDF of this document the process
>stops once the first PDF page is encountered.
>
>What do I need to do to create a PDF from a FrameMaker document that
>contains referenced PDF pages? The document displays OK and prints OK.
>
>BTW. The referenced PDFs are a sequence of pages from a PDF document.
>They are inserted by reference.
>
>Regards...Chris
>
>
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Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics

2008-12-05 Thread Christopher Seal
My work around is to type the offending page in FrameMaker and use available 
fonts.

The other PDF pages are OK.

Regards...Chris


>From: Fred Ridder 
>To: 
>Subject: RE: Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics
>Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:33:20 -0500
>
>
>My guess would be that the PDF you are inserting does not have
>fonts embedded and that your system does not have the matching
>fonts installed to allow you to embed them in the PDF you are making.If so, 
>there is no nice way out of the situation other than obtaining
>a legitimate installation of the font for your system.-Fred Ridder
> > From: cseal at sympatico.ca> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com> Subject: 
> > RE: 
>Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics> Date: Fri, 
>5 Dec 2008 17:27:52 +> CC: richard.combs at Polycom.com> > Thank you to 
>those who responded.> > I found there is a problem with one of the PDF 
>pages. The error message I > got was:> -> %%[ 
>ProductName: Distiller ]%%> %%[Page: 1]%%> %%[ Error: invalidfont; 
>OffendingCommand: definefont; ErrorInfo: .notdef > --nostringval-- ]%%> > 
>Stack:> /Font> -dict-> /Garamond-BookCondensedItalic> > > %%[ Flushing: 
>rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%> %%[ Warning: PostScript 
>error. No PDF file produced. ] %%> > Now I have to 
>find out how to fix this issue in the PDF.> > Regards...Chris> > > >From: 
>"Combs, Richard" > >To: "Christopher Seal" 
>,> >Subject: RE: 
>Making 
>PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics> >Date: Fri, 5 Dec 
>2008 10:09:09 -0700> >> >Christopher Seal wrote:> >> > > I have a 
>FrameMaker document that incorporates PDF graphics within> >anchored> > > 
>frames. When trying to make a PDF of this document the process stops> 
> >once> > > the first PDF page is encountered.> > >> > > What do I need to 
>do to create a PDF from a FrameMaker document that> > > contains referenced 
>PDF pages? The document displays OK and prints OK.> >> >You shouldn't need 
>to do anything special, it should just work. Many of> >my FM books contain 
>referenced PDFs -- sixty-odd flow diagrams from> >Visio, in one case (PDF 
>is the best way to get Visio output into FM,> >IMHO). I've never had a 
>problem.> >> >What do you mean by "the process stops"? Is Distiller 
>reporting an error> >and aborting the job? What does the log say? Distiller 
>error messages> >are generally somewhat inscrutable to me, but there are 
>people on this> >list who can translate them into English for you. :-)> >> 
> >Are you using Save As PDF or Print to Adobe PDF? Try the other.> >> >If 
>you're always getting an error on the first page containing a PDF, it> 
> >might be just that specific PDF, or even something else on that page.> 
> >Try printing other pages containing PDFs, one at a time, to the Adobe> 
> >PDF printer.> >> >HTH!> >Richard> >> >> >Richard G. Combs> >Senior 
>Technical Writer> >Polycom, Inc.> >richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom> 
> >303-223-5111> >--> >rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom> >303-777-0436> >--> 
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Framers Digest, Vol 38, Issue 4 - Structured Markers/IXGen

2008-12-05 Thread Indira Rimkeit
Hi Gary,

We have elements in our EDD (M-Index and others), which use FrameMaker markers. 
When you insert one from the element catalog, it brings up the Insert Marker 
dialog. These are XML elements, which are preserved on XML round-tripping. 
However, if you insert an unstructured marker using Special > Markers, when you 
save as XML, they are dropped.

Indira Rimkeit
Technical Publications
Redback Networks, an Ericsson company
---snip
Can you explain what you mean by "structured" markers? I thought markers
were the same regardless of whether or not you are using structure.

> We also used IXGen for editing indexes before we moved to structure,
but found that is doesn't work with structured markers.


Merged Project

2008-12-05 Thread Judy Bragg
Art wrote: "This probably isn't the kind of advice that you're hoping to get, 
but
the way that you're setting stuff up is so far from the standard way
that FM and RH work that you're way off the edge.
"As you probably know, the normal way to work, and the way the programs
work best, is to build a book in FM that contains all the chapter
files. IF... it really "takes forever" to update files and that's your
reason for not using a standard workflow, that would tell me that
there's something wrong with your setup. I know that I'm working on
several books with 500-600 pages and all the files are on a server...
and it takes maybe 2-3 minutes to update all insets, graphics, and
generate the TOC and Index. Which I can live with.
"Your note that the system fails when you try to work correctly is
another key that you've got basic system or configuration problems.
Normal work doesn't cause systems to fail.
"So the right direction would be to find and fix the underlying
problem, rather than look for additional kludges. Which would involve
supplying a lot more details about your system, RAM, free space,
network config and so on..."I have no idea what is "standard" for setting up 
FM. It makes sense to me,
but if I need to change it somehow I'll be glad to know what the proper way is! 
 Here's what I've done:StructuredFM-Ch1
-Ch2
-Ch3...etc
-Graphics-Ch1
?-ch2
?-Ch3-TextInsets (Sub-files by subject matter)
-Books
?
The Books folder contains all books--Full Manual, as well as the smaller 
chapter books--and their TOC and IX files.There is no network involved 
anywhere.  I'm a lone writer so everything remains on my laptop.My system: 
Windows XP SP3, Intel Core Duo CPU (2GHz) and 3.49Gb RAM.  
I have almost 73Gb of free HD space and the current size of that whole 
StructuredFM folder is only 4.6Gb.
My full manual is about 1350 pgs.Also, it's not updating the books' TOC, IX, 
Xrefs, etc that takes so long.  It's updating their references in RH that takes 
forever.I look forward to hearing your suggestions.  Thanks so much for your 
willingness to help.Judy


asterisks and footnote numbers

2008-12-05 Thread Tina Ricks
Hello,



I'm doing editing and layout of a large set of academic papers that have
loads of footnotes. The organization I'm working for wants to use both
asterisks AND footnotes in the papers.



An asterisk is usually after the paper title, and has notes about where this
paper was previously published. Some papers have asterisks on the titles,
some do not.



The footnotes in the main body of the text are typical footnotes (source
citations, etc.) and are numbered 1, 2, 3, etc.



Frame doesn't handle this well. Footnote numbering (Format > Document >
Numbering > Footnote) either has numeric or custom (symbols) but not both
mixed in the same footnote series. 



I tried setting up a custom numbering format (*1234 etc.) but Frame's
numbering feature gives error messages when one chapter is different from
the rest in the book, and changes it back to the way the rest of the book
is.



Has anyone dealt with this? Word actually allows symbols and numbers in the
same series, but Frame doesn't.



Tina Ricks, Editor
tina at trialguides.com
Trial Guides
www.trialguides.com   





Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics

2008-12-05 Thread Jo Watkiss
The only time I've witnessed this is when the referenced PDF is
encrypted.  Worth a check?

Jo Watkiss 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Seal
Sent: 05 December 2008 16:31
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Making PDF of a FrameMaker document that contains PDF graphics

FrameMaker 7.2
Windows XP Pro

I have a FrameMaker document that incorporates PDF graphics within
anchored frames. When trying to make a PDF of this document the process
stops once the first PDF page is encountered.

What do I need to do to create a PDF from a FrameMaker document that
contains referenced PDF pages? The document displays OK and prints OK.

BTW. The referenced PDFs are a sequence of pages from a PDF document.
They are inserted by reference.

Regards...Chris


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