RE: trademark symbol in text

[Kelly McDaniel]

Clarification:

There is no external legal require to use the marks. There may,
however, be an internal requirement. For example, our attorneys
require use of the marks on the legal statement page and on each
first-use-in-text...Kelly (a d00d)

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:21 AM
To: Deirdre Reagan; Frame Users
Subject: Re: trademark symbol in text

 What's the standard practice for using the trademark symbol in the
 text?  Don't use it?  Use it just for the first instance of the
 trademark name?  Use it ever time the trademark name is mentioned?

According to the Chicago Manual of Style, 15th edition:

8.162 Brand names that are registered trademarks-often so indicated in 
dictionaries-should be capitalized if they must be used. A better choice
is 
to substitute a generic term when available. Although the symbols (R)
and TM 
often accompany trademark names on product packaging and in promotional 
material, there is no legal requirement to use these symbols, and they 
should be omitted wherever possible. Note also that some companies want 
people to use both the proper and the generic terms in reference to
their 
products (Kleenex facial tissue, not just Kleenex), but here again
there 
is no legal requirement. 

Mike Wickham


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RE: Jumping to Figure Captions

[Martinek, Carla]

We had the same problem, and solved it by placing our figure captions
ABOVE the figures. All figure and table captions are above the item they
are referencing, which creates a consistent look throughout our docs.
Why the standard has always been for table titles to be ABOVE and figure
captions to be BELOW is beyond me.

I believe a FrameScript could be written (or may already be written)
that would automate moving the captions from below to above the
graphics.

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Re: How can I Find+Replace local formatting to a (Char) style

[Stuart Rogers]

Avraham Makeler wrote:
 Ok, I see now how in the Find window, you specify Character format  Blue
 and Underline.
 
 But I still don't see how you specify the new style to apply to all the hits
 you get from the Find.

If you follow Art's instructions, you will have copied the new Character 
Format onto your clipboard.  In the Find/Change dialog box, use the 
pull-down list to select Change By Pasting (instead of the default 
Change To Text).




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 Create your character style.
 Apply it to a word, then select it and Copy Special  Character Format.
 In the Find window, specify Character format  Blue and Underline.
 Replace by Pasting.

 There are also a couple of plugins that identify format over-rides,
 which may be useful.

 Art

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Re: trademark symbol in text

[Mike Wickham]

 What's the standard practice for using the trademark symbol in the
 text?  Don't use it?  Use it just for the first instance of the
 trademark name?  Use it ever time the trademark name is mentioned?

According to the Chicago Manual of Style, 15th edition:

8.162 Brand names that are registered trademarks-often so indicated in 
dictionaries-should be capitalized if they must be used. A better choice is 
to substitute a generic term when available. Although the symbols (R) and TM 
often accompany trademark names on product packaging and in promotional 
material, there is no legal requirement to use these symbols, and they 
should be omitted wherever possible. Note also that some companies want 
people to use both the proper and the generic terms in reference to their 
products (Kleenex facial tissue, not just Kleenex), but here again there 
is no legal requirement. 

Mike Wickham


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RE: Fixing lots of X-refs

[John Sgammato]

You're a genius!
That helped quite a lot. I was able to power through about half the
remaining broken links (about 50 of them). Another half are broken for
other reasons, but at least now the project feels much more manageable. 
Thank you Richard, and to everyone else who helped!
 john

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From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:50 AM
To: John Sgammato; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Fixing lots of X-refs

John Sgammato wrote:
 
 I am whiling away a snowy Boston day fixing hundreds of broken x-refs.
 
 My process: I update the book and get the long, long list of bum
links.
 Then I click on them one at a time, working my way patiently through
the
 list. But my patience is wearing thin, and maybe it doesn't have to...
 
 When I click the link, the file window appears, with the link
highlighted.
 
 I double-click the link to repair it, and see the Cannot find source 
 file... error message.
 
 I click OK and the Cross-Reference dialog opens.

Whoa! That's painful and unnecessary. Sorry I'm coming into this so
late, and it may be moot if you've finished -- but there's an easier way
to do this, and it doesn't require mucking around in MIF or plugins or
anything. 

Open all the files in the book and in each file containing unresolved
xrefs, do the following:

1) Select Edit  Update References. 

2) In the Update References dialog, click Commands, and select Update
Unresolved Cross-References. 

3) In the Update Unresolved Cross-References dialog, select one of the
files (other than Current) listed in the box at the top. (The names are
the old file names that the xrefs pointed to when they were created.)

4) If the number of unresolved xrefs to the selected file (displayed
below the box) is more than zero, find the new file name for that file
below, select it, and click Open. This fixes all the xrefs to that file.


5) Repeat the preceding two steps until the total number of unresolved
xrefs is zero. Then close the dialog and save the file.  

It's still manual, but at least you're fixing xrefs 6 or 8 at a time
(more or less) instead of individually, and you're only addressing
what's broken -- the file name -- instead of re-identifying the
destination paragraph and re-creating the marker (neither of which is
necessary, since the xref markers are still there undisturbed in the
renamed files). 

HTH, if not now, maybe next time. :-)

Richard 


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Re: trademark symbol in text

[David Spreadbury]

Deirdre,
If the trademark symbol is for your product, check with your corporate 
marketing folks or legal counsel.
 
If the trademark is for someone else's product, i.e., Microsoft, go to that 
companies website and search for something like Trademark Usage; i.e., 
http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/trademarks/usage/default.mspx for 
Microsoft.
s guidelines.
--- On Mon, 1/5/09, Deirdre Reagan deirdre.rea...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Deirdre Reagan deirdre.rea...@gmail.com
Subject: trademark symbol in text
To: Framer's List framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 9:44 AM

Hi Framers!

This is technically not an FM question, but perhaps you all can help?

What's the standard practice for using the trademark symbol in the
text?  Don't use it?  Use it just for the first instance of the
trademark name?  Use it ever time the trademark name is mentioned?

And is there a style guide ruling on this?  I usually use APA and / or
GPO Style Guide, but I haven't been able to find any ruling.

Thanks so much!

Happy New Year!

Deirdre Reagan
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Re: Discretionary Hyphen Gripe

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Mike,

Another way to do this is to set all paragraph tags' language seetings
to None. Then the discretionary hyphens will work as expected with the
Hyphenation set. Fastest way to do this is probably search/replace one
file (template) in MIF format (searching for the language setting) and
then import the template's paragraph formats to all the other files in
the book.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

2008/12/31 Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com:
 Does anyone find discretionary hyphens as useless as I do? It appears that
 they only work if hyphenation is turned on in the paragraph style, but if
 the paragraph already hyphenates itself, there is little need for them.

 I turn hyphenation off because I prefer not to have hyphenated paragraphs.
 However, there are occasional instances where a word is so long that it
 wraps to the next line and leaves a huge white gap in the line above. It's
 ugly as hell. In those instances, I would like to make an exception and
 allow hyphenation for that word. A discretionary hyphen is supposed to do
 this, but won't. I could use a hard hyphen to break the text, but then if an
 edit ever creates reflow, it creates a problem.

 Since a discretionary hyphen is an override, why isn't it set up to also
 work in unhyphenated paragraphs? If anyone agrees with me that it should be,
 please add your voice to the feature request form at Adobe:

 http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

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RE: trademark symbol in text

[Kelly McDaniel]

There are two symbols: the superscript TM and the superscript R in a
circle.

The first means that the user is claiming trademark status. The second
means that the trademark is registered.

The accepted practice is to use the appropriate mark the first time the
mark-worthy term is encountered in the text and omit it thereafter.

If you include a legal page, your trademark statements should be
included depending on the style of the legal statement. For most
purposes, the display of the mark on the legal page fulfills the first
time encountered guideline.

There is no legal requirement to use either or any mark...regards,
Kelly.




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Reagan
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 9:45 AM
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Subject: trademark symbol in text

Hi Framers!

This is technically not an FM question, but perhaps you all can help?

What's the standard practice for using the trademark symbol in the
text?  Don't use it?  Use it just for the first instance of the
trademark name?  Use it ever time the trademark name is mentioned?

And is there a style guide ruling on this?  I usually use APA and / or
GPO Style Guide, but I haven't been able to find any ruling.

Thanks so much!

Happy New Year!

Deirdre Reagan
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Re: trademark symbol in text

[Art Campbell]

Kelly is correct; although you may want to visit the trademark owner's
www site to see which flavor (tm) or (R) is correct for a particular
trademark.

The citation could be the Chicago Manual of Style, which echos her,
but this really isn't a style issue -- it's a legal one, which may be
the reason for omission in many style guides.

Art

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On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Kelly McDaniel kmcdan...@pavtech.com wrote:
 There are two symbols: the superscript TM and the superscript R in a
 circle.

 The first means that the user is claiming trademark status. The second
 means that the trademark is registered.

 The accepted practice is to use the appropriate mark the first time the
 mark-worthy term is encountered in the text and omit it thereafter.

 If you include a legal page, your trademark statements should be
 included depending on the style of the legal statement. For most
 purposes, the display of the mark on the legal page fulfills the first
 time encountered guideline.

 There is no legal requirement to use either or any mark...regards,
 Kelly.




 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deirdre
 Reagan
 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 9:45 AM
 To: Framer's List
 Subject: trademark symbol in text

 Hi Framers!

 This is technically not an FM question, but perhaps you all can help?

 What's the standard practice for using the trademark symbol in the
 text?  Don't use it?  Use it just for the first instance of the
 trademark name?  Use it ever time the trademark name is mentioned?

 And is there a style guide ruling on this?  I usually use APA and / or
 GPO Style Guide, but I haven't been able to find any ruling.

 Thanks so much!

 Happy New Year!

 Deirdre Reagan
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trademark symbol in text

[Deirdre Reagan]

Hi Framers!

This is technically not an FM question, but perhaps you all can help?

What's the standard practice for using the trademark symbol in the
text?  Don't use it?  Use it just for the first instance of the
trademark name?  Use it ever time the trademark name is mentioned?

And is there a style guide ruling on this?  I usually use APA and / or
GPO Style Guide, but I haven't been able to find any ruling.

Thanks so much!

Happy New Year!

Deirdre Reagan
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Re: trademark symbol in text

[Deirdre Reagan]

Mike and all:

Thank you so much for the answers! I think Mike's comment here best
answers my particular questions, but the others answers have been very
helpful as well.

Deirdre

On 1/5/09, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com wrote:
  What's the standard practice for using the trademark symbol in the
  text?  Don't use it?  Use it just for the first instance of the
  trademark name?  Use it ever time the trademark name is mentioned?
 

 According to the Chicago Manual of Style, 15th edition:

 8.162 Brand names that are registered trademarks-often so indicated in
 dictionaries-should be capitalized if they must be used. A better choice is
 to substitute a generic term when available. Although the symbols (R) and TM
 often accompany trademark names on product packaging and in promotional
 material, there is no legal requirement to use these symbols, and they
 should be omitted wherever possible. Note also that some companies want
 people to use both the proper and the generic terms in reference to their
 products (Kleenex facial tissue, not just Kleenex), but here again there
 is no legal requirement. 

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Re: FrameMaker/ePublisher issue

[Art Campbell]

I'd say neither; it's probably a system/font problem.

For example, the % sign is showing up because your system (or Acrobat
Distiller) can't find the Wingdings font and is substituting another
font. I'd check the Distiller settings to make sure that the Font
Location is correct and maps all the fonts on the system.

And, do you have the Adobe printer instance set as the system default printer?

It's possible your Autotext string may munged up and isn't inserting
the correct font info, but that should show up in Frame -- if it's
correct in FM, the problem is happening in another program.

Art


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On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Eichelberger, Mark
mark.eichelber...@aftech.fiserv.com wrote:
 Folks, I honestly do not know if this is a FrameMaker or ePublisher
 issue, but I thought I would first ask here first.



 We are currently using FrameMaker version 7 and have just upgraded to
 ePublisher version 2008.3.  We also use a 3rd Party plugin for FM called
 AutoText to define tables or graphic items for selection via a pull down
 menu in FM.  What we have noticed in the HTML and PDF output of our FM
 source files generated by the 2008.3 version of ePublisher is that
 symbols within the FM AutoText tables, such as the Monotype Sorts
 Pointing Finger or the Wingdings Warning Bell, are being substituted
 by other symbols in the resulting HTML and PDF output.  For example, the
 warning bell symbol displays as a percentage symbol in the pdf output.
 We noticed these issues after upgrading to the 2008.3 version of
 ePublisher.   All symbols appear correctly in the html and pdf output
 when generating via our earlier version of ePublisher.



 Has anyone else run into an issue such as this?  If so, is it a FM issue
 or an ePublisher issue?



 Thanks in advance,



 Mark Eichelberger

 Senior Technical Writer

 Fiserv CU7

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RE: FrameMaker/ePublisher issue

[Mary Anthony]

Mark,

This is an ePublisher issue. I have run into it.  You can search characters on 
the ePublisher support page:

Wingdings characters present a particular challenge when working with 
HTML-based content. Since Wingdings (as well as a few other symbol fonts) 
conflicts with the Unicode character map, many browsers simply don't support 
it. Internet Explorer skirts the issue and displays these characters correctly.

A solution is to use the character map to do a translation from one character 
to another.

To modify the ePublisher character map, you'll need to perform a simple 
overide of a file called 'mapentrysets.xml', which is located by default in the 
ePublisher Pro installation directory:
ePublisher Pro\Formats\Shared\html

For information on performing target overrides, please see their online 
knowledge base article here:
http://www.webworks.com/technotes/articles/ePublisherPro/EX_ePub_Project_Format_Overrides.36.1.aspx

Mary

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
 boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Eichelberger, Mark
 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:09 AM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: FrameMaker/ePublisher issue

 Folks, I honestly do not know if this is a FrameMaker or ePublisher
 issue, but I thought I would first ask here first.



 We are currently using FrameMaker version 7 and have just upgraded to
 ePublisher version 2008.3.  We also use a 3rd Party plugin for FM
 called
 AutoText to define tables or graphic items for selection via a pull
 down
 menu in FM.  What we have noticed in the HTML and PDF output of our FM
 source files generated by the 2008.3 version of ePublisher is that
 symbols within the FM AutoText tables, such as the Monotype Sorts
 Pointing Finger or the Wingdings Warning Bell, are being
 substituted
 by other symbols in the resulting HTML and PDF output.  For example,
 the
 warning bell symbol displays as a percentage symbol in the pdf output.
 We noticed these issues after upgrading to the 2008.3 version of
 ePublisher.   All symbols appear correctly in the html and pdf output
 when generating via our earlier version of ePublisher.



 Has anyone else run into an issue such as this?  If so, is it a FM
 issue
 or an ePublisher issue?



 Thanks in advance,



 Mark Eichelberger

 Senior Technical Writer

 Fiserv CU7

 mark.eichelber...@aftech.fiserv.com





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Re: FrameMaker/ePublisher issue

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:50:50 -0800, Mary Anthony 
manth...@palantirtech.com wrote:

This is an ePublisher issue. I have run into it.  You can search 
characters on the ePublisher support page:

Wingdings characters present a particular challenge when working 
with HTML-based content. Since Wingdings (as well as a few other 
symbol fonts) conflicts with the Unicode character map, many 
browsers simply don't support it. Internet Explorer skirts the 
issue and displays these characters correctly.

Yes, there is a browser issue here, but it is tractable.  Mif2Go
handles it automatically for almost all Wingdings and Symbol chars,
and provides a simple way to map any others.  From the User's Guide:

~~~
20.5.6 Mapping characters in a special font

Characters in special fonts such as Wingdings or Webdings might 
not be rendered correctly by non-Microsoft browsers; see §20.6.5, 
Accommodating browser font-rendering differences. However, you 
can direct Mif2Go to replace a character in any font with its 
Unicode equivalent, or with an image, or with any HTML code, by 
providing a macro section for that font in your configuration file.

The following Web site suggests mappings from Symbol and Wingdings 
characters to the closest Unicode code points:

http://www.alanwood.net 

With the kind permission of Alan Wood, we have incorporated these 
mappings as defaults for all Mif2Go HTML conversions. The defaults 
should handle all Symbol characters (except for one, the radical 
extender) and the majority of Wingdings characters. You can override 
the defaults, or set mappings for any characters that have no 
equivalent Unicode representation.
~~

We suggest that other vendors may want to do the same; Alan Wood's
mappings are free for the asking, and the programming task is simple.

WRT the OP's question, the Alan Wood site has mappings for your 
Wingdings, but not for your Monotype Sorts.  You can, however,
scan through the Unicode tables Wood references to find Unicode
equivalents, which *all* browsers should support.

HTH!


HTH!

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RE: Looking for Freelance jobs (project)

[David A. Flynn]

Hi Swaminathan,


I am also a technical writer.

Checkout Getafreelancer.com

 
Regards,
 
 
David
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Hello All,

I am Swaminathan from New Delhi, Inida. I have eleven years experience in
Typesetting industry. (Especially 5 years in Framemaker
(structure/unstructure)). 

I am looking freelance projects from any one.  Please keep in touch.

Thanks
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RE: Placing icons in side heads

[Diane Gaskill]

Leah,

Place an anchored frame set to left at the insertion point of the
instruction. Create a text frame inside the anchored frame and place the
icon it in.  You'll need to set the size of the anchored frame adn text
frame to be just big enough to hold the icon.

HTH
Diane Gaskill
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To: fram...@frameusers.com
Subject: Placing icons in side heads


FM 7.0 ; Windows XP

In one of our products, users can choose between 2 programming syntaxes.
Until now we have produced 2 different versions of the Reference Guide
(using conditional text).

We now want to produce 1 book that includes both syntaxes. The files use
side heads. I want to construct soemthing like this:

Syntax A icon (in sidehead)To tie shoelaces
1.
2.
To untie  shoelaces
   1.
   2.

Syntax B icon (in sidehead)To tie shoelaces
1.
2.
To untie  shoelaces
   1.
   2.

Questions:
1. How do I get those icons into the sideheads?
2. How do I make sure that they automatically line up with the procedure
title pgf?

TIA,

Leah Smaller
Technical Writer
Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
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Discretionary Hyphen Gripe

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Mike,

Another way to do this is to set all paragraph tags' language seetings
to None. Then the discretionary hyphens will work as expected with the
Hyphenation set. Fastest way to do this is probably search/replace one
file (template) in MIF format (searching for the language setting) and
then import the template's paragraph formats to all the other files in
the book.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

2008/12/31 Mike Wickham :
> Does anyone find discretionary hyphens as useless as I do? It appears that
> they only work if hyphenation is turned on in the paragraph style, but if
> the paragraph already hyphenates itself, there is little need for them.
>
> I turn hyphenation off because I prefer not to have hyphenated paragraphs.
> However, there are occasional instances where a word is so long that it
> wraps to the next line and leaves a huge white gap in the line above. It's
> ugly as hell. In those instances, I would like to make an exception and
> allow hyphenation for that word. A discretionary hyphen is supposed to do
> this, but won't. I could use a hard hyphen to break the text, but then if an
> edit ever creates reflow, it creates a problem.
>
> Since a discretionary hyphen is an override, why isn't it set up to also
> work in unhyphenated paragraphs? If anyone agrees with me that it should be,
> please add your voice to the feature request form at Adobe:
>
> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
>
> Mike Wickham
>
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How can I Find+Replace local formatting to a (Char) style

[Stuart Rogers]

Avraham Makeler wrote:
> Ok, I see now how in the Find window, you specify Character format > Blue
> and Underline.
> 
> But I still don't see how you specify the new style to apply to all the hits
> you get from the Find.

If you follow Art's instructions, you will have copied the new Character 
Format onto your clipboard.  In the Find/Change dialog box, use the 
pull-down list to select Change By Pasting (instead of the default 
Change To Text).



>>
>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Art Campbell > gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Create your character style.
>>> Apply it to a word, then select it and Copy Special > Character Format.
>>> In the Find window, specify Character format > Blue and Underline.
>>> Replace by Pasting.
>>>
>>> There are also a couple of plugins that identify format over-rides,
>>> which may be useful.
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>> Art Campbell

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trademark symbol in text

[Deirdre Reagan]

Hi Framers!

This is technically not an FM question, but perhaps you all can help?

What's the standard practice for using the trademark symbol in the
text?  Don't use it?  Use it just for the first instance of the
trademark name?  Use it ever time the trademark name is mentioned?

And is there a style guide ruling on this?  I usually use APA and / or
GPO Style Guide, but I haven't been able to find any ruling.

Thanks so much!

Happy New Year!

Deirdre Reagan

trademark symbol in text

[David Spreadbury]

Deirdre,
If the trademark symbol is for your product, check with your corporate 
marketing folks or legal counsel.
?
If the trademark is for someone else's product, i.e., Microsoft, go to that 
companies website and search for something like "Trademark Usage"; i.e., 
http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/trademarks/usage/default.mspx?for 
Microsoft.
s guidelines.
--- On Mon, 1/5/09, Deirdre Reagan  wrote:

From: Deirdre Reagan 
Subject: trademark symbol in text
To: "Framer's List" 
Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 9:44 AM

Hi Framers!

This is technically not an FM question, but perhaps you all can help?

What's the standard practice for using the trademark symbol in the
text?  Don't use it?  Use it just for the first instance of the
trademark name?  Use it ever time the trademark name is mentioned?

And is there a style guide ruling on this?  I usually use APA and / or
GPO Style Guide, but I haven't been able to find any ruling.

Thanks so much!

Happy New Year!

Deirdre Reagan
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trademark symbol in text

[Kelly McDaniel]

There are two symbols: the superscript "TM" and the superscript "R" in a
circle.

The first means that the user is claiming trademark status. The second
means that the trademark is registered.

The accepted practice is to use the appropriate mark the first time the
mark-worthy term is encountered in the text and omit it thereafter.

If you include a legal page, your trademark statements should be
included depending on the style of the legal statement. For most
purposes, the display of the mark on the legal page fulfills the "first
time encountered" guideline.

There is no legal requirement to use either or any mark...regards,
Kelly.




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Subject: trademark symbol in text

Hi Framers!

This is technically not an FM question, but perhaps you all can help?

What's the standard practice for using the trademark symbol in the
text?  Don't use it?  Use it just for the first instance of the
trademark name?  Use it ever time the trademark name is mentioned?

And is there a style guide ruling on this?  I usually use APA and / or
GPO Style Guide, but I haven't been able to find any ruling.

Thanks so much!

Happy New Year!

Deirdre Reagan
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Jumping to Figure Captions

[Martinek, Carla]

We had the same problem, and solved it by placing our figure captions
ABOVE the figures. All figure and table captions are above the item they
are referencing, which creates a consistent look throughout our docs.
Why the standard has always been for table titles to be ABOVE and figure
captions to be BELOW is beyond me.

I believe a FrameScript could be written (or may already be written)
that would automate moving the captions from below to above the
graphics.

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trademark symbol in text

[Mike Wickham]

> What's the standard practice for using the trademark symbol in the
> text?  Don't use it?  Use it just for the first instance of the
> trademark name?  Use it ever time the trademark name is mentioned?

According to the Chicago Manual of Style, 15th edition:

"8.162 Brand names that are registered trademarks-often so indicated in 
dictionaries-should be capitalized if they must be used. A better choice is 
to substitute a generic term when available. Although the symbols (R) and TM 
often accompany trademark names on product packaging and in promotional 
material, there is no legal requirement to use these symbols, and they 
should be omitted wherever possible. Note also that some companies want 
people to use both the proper and the generic terms in reference to their 
products ("Kleenex facial tissue," not just "Kleenex"), but here again there 
is no legal requirement. "

Mike Wickham

trademark symbol in text

[Kelly McDaniel]

Clarification:

There is no "external" legal require to use the marks. There may,
however, be an "internal" requirement. For example, our attorneys
require use of the marks on the legal statement page and on each
first-use-in-text...Kelly (a d00d)

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Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:21 AM
To: Deirdre Reagan; Frame Users
Subject: Re: trademark symbol in text

> What's the standard practice for using the trademark symbol in the
> text?  Don't use it?  Use it just for the first instance of the
> trademark name?  Use it ever time the trademark name is mentioned?

According to the Chicago Manual of Style, 15th edition:

"8.162 Brand names that are registered trademarks-often so indicated in 
dictionaries-should be capitalized if they must be used. A better choice
is 
to substitute a generic term when available. Although the symbols (R)
and TM 
often accompany trademark names on product packaging and in promotional 
material, there is no legal requirement to use these symbols, and they 
should be omitted wherever possible. Note also that some companies want 
people to use both the proper and the generic terms in reference to
their 
products ("Kleenex facial tissue," not just "Kleenex"), but here again
there 
is no legal requirement. "

Mike Wickham


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trademark symbol in text

[Deirdre Reagan]

Mike and all:

Thank you so much for the answers! I think Mike's comment here best
answers my particular questions, but the others answers have been very
helpful as well.

Deirdre

On 1/5/09, Mike Wickham  wrote:
> > What's the standard practice for using the trademark symbol in the
> > text?  Don't use it?  Use it just for the first instance of the
> > trademark name?  Use it ever time the trademark name is mentioned?
> >
>
> According to the Chicago Manual of Style, 15th edition:
>
> "8.162 Brand names that are registered trademarks-often so indicated in
> dictionaries-should be capitalized if they must be used. A better choice is
> to substitute a generic term when available. Although the symbols (R) and TM
> often accompany trademark names on product packaging and in promotional
> material, there is no legal requirement to use these symbols, and they
> should be omitted wherever possible. Note also that some companies want
> people to use both the proper and the generic terms in reference to their
> products ("Kleenex facial tissue," not just "Kleenex"), but here again there
> is no legal requirement. "
>
> Mike Wickham
>
>
>

Fixing lots of X-refs

[John Sgammato]

You're a genius!
That helped quite a lot. I was able to power through about half the
remaining broken links (about 50 of them). Another half are broken for
other reasons, but at least now the project feels much more manageable. 
Thank you Richard, and to everyone else who helped!
 john

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:50 AM
To: John Sgammato; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Fixing lots of X-refs

John Sgammato wrote:

> I am whiling away a snowy Boston day fixing hundreds of broken x-refs.
> 
> My process: I update the book and get the long, long list of bum
links.
> Then I click on them one at a time, working my way patiently through
the
> list. But my patience is wearing thin, and maybe it doesn't have to...
> 
> When I click the link, the file window appears, with the link
highlighted.
> 
> I double-click the link to repair it, and see the "Cannot find source 
> file..." error message.
> 
> I click OK and the Cross-Reference dialog opens.

Whoa! That's painful and unnecessary. Sorry I'm coming into this so
late, and it may be moot if you've finished -- but there's an easier way
to do this, and it doesn't require mucking around in MIF or plugins or
anything. 

Open all the files in the book and in each file containing unresolved
xrefs, do the following:

1) Select Edit > Update References. 

2) In the Update References dialog, click Commands, and select Update
Unresolved Cross-References. 

3) In the Update Unresolved Cross-References dialog, select one of the
files (other than Current) listed in the box at the top. (The names are
the old file names that the xrefs pointed to when they were created.)

4) If the number of unresolved xrefs to the selected file (displayed
below the box) is more than zero, find the new file name for that file
below, select it, and click Open. This fixes all the xrefs to that file.


5) Repeat the preceding two steps until the total number of unresolved
xrefs is zero. Then close the dialog and save the file.  

It's still manual, but at least you're fixing xrefs 6 or 8 at a time
(more or less) instead of individually, and you're only addressing
what's broken -- the file name -- instead of re-identifying the
destination paragraph and re-creating the marker (neither of which is
necessary, since the xref markers are still there undisturbed in the
renamed files). 

HTH, if not now, maybe next time. :-)

Richard 


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Polycom, Inc.
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FrameMaker/ePublisher issue

[Eichelberger, Mark]

Folks, I honestly do not know if this is a FrameMaker or ePublisher
issue, but I thought I would first ask here first.  



We are currently using FrameMaker version 7 and have just upgraded to
ePublisher version 2008.3.  We also use a 3rd Party plugin for FM called
AutoText to define tables or graphic items for selection via a pull down
menu in FM.  What we have noticed in the HTML and PDF output of our FM
source files generated by the 2008.3 version of ePublisher is that
symbols within the FM AutoText tables, such as the Monotype Sorts
"Pointing Finger" or the Wingdings "Warning Bell", are being substituted
by other symbols in the resulting HTML and PDF output.  For example, the
warning bell symbol displays as a percentage symbol in the pdf output.
We noticed these issues after upgrading to the 2008.3 version of
ePublisher.   All symbols appear correctly in the html and pdf output
when generating via our earlier version of ePublisher.



Has anyone else run into an issue such as this?  If so, is it a FM issue
or an ePublisher issue? 



Thanks in advance,



Mark Eichelberger

Senior Technical Writer

Fiserv CU7

Mark.Eichelberger at Aftech.Fiserv.com

FrameMaker/ePublisher issue

[Art Campbell]

I'd say neither; it's probably a system/font problem.

For example, the % sign is showing up because your system (or Acrobat
Distiller) can't find the Wingdings font and is substituting another
font. I'd check the Distiller settings to make sure that the Font
Location is correct and maps all the fonts on the system.

And, do you have the Adobe printer instance set as the system default printer?

It's possible your Autotext string may munged up and isn't inserting
the correct font info, but that should show up in Frame -- if it's
correct in FM, the problem is happening in another program.

Art


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On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Eichelberger, Mark
 wrote:
> Folks, I honestly do not know if this is a FrameMaker or ePublisher
> issue, but I thought I would first ask here first.
>
>
>
> We are currently using FrameMaker version 7 and have just upgraded to
> ePublisher version 2008.3.  We also use a 3rd Party plugin for FM called
> AutoText to define tables or graphic items for selection via a pull down
> menu in FM.  What we have noticed in the HTML and PDF output of our FM
> source files generated by the 2008.3 version of ePublisher is that
> symbols within the FM AutoText tables, such as the Monotype Sorts
> "Pointing Finger" or the Wingdings "Warning Bell", are being substituted
> by other symbols in the resulting HTML and PDF output.  For example, the
> warning bell symbol displays as a percentage symbol in the pdf output.
> We noticed these issues after upgrading to the 2008.3 version of
> ePublisher.   All symbols appear correctly in the html and pdf output
> when generating via our earlier version of ePublisher.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else run into an issue such as this?  If so, is it a FM issue
> or an ePublisher issue?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> Mark Eichelberger
>
> Senior Technical Writer
>
> Fiserv CU7
>
> Mark.Eichelberger at Aftech.Fiserv.com
>
>
>
>
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FrameMaker/ePublisher issue

[David Spreadbury]

Mark,
My .02 cents.
?
I am assuming that you are outputting to HTML. If this is the case, it is an 
HTML issue.
?
Unless the basic font you are using contains the special character symbols, the 
HTML will interpret the character code for the symbol in the base font. We ran 
into this when using a Star (Zaph Dingbats capital H). In Frame it was fine. In 
the HTML it was an 'H', the base font equivalent..

--- On Mon, 1/5/09, Eichelberger, Mark  
wrote:

From: Eichelberger, Mark 
Subject: FrameMaker/ePublisher issue
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 9:08 AM

Folks, I honestly do not know if this is a FrameMaker or ePublisher
issue, but I thought I would first ask here first.  



We are currently using FrameMaker version 7 and have just upgraded to
ePublisher version 2008.3.  We also use a 3rd Party plugin for FM called
AutoText to define tables or graphic items for selection via a pull down
menu in FM.  What we have noticed in the HTML and PDF output of our FM
source files generated by the 2008.3 version of ePublisher is that
symbols within the FM AutoText tables, such as the Monotype Sorts
"Pointing Finger" or the Wingdings "Warning Bell", are
being substituted
by other symbols in the resulting HTML and PDF output.  For example, the
warning bell symbol displays as a percentage symbol in the pdf output.
We noticed these issues after upgrading to the 2008.3 version of
ePublisher.   All symbols appear correctly in the html and pdf output
when generating via our earlier version of ePublisher.



Has anyone else run into an issue such as this?  If so, is it a FM issue
or an ePublisher issue? 



Thanks in advance,



Mark Eichelberger

Senior Technical Writer

Fiserv CU7

Mark.Eichelberger at Aftech.Fiserv.com





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FrameMaker/ePublisher issue

[Mary Anthony]

Mark,

This is an ePublisher issue. I have run into it.  You can search characters on 
the ePublisher support page:

"Wingdings characters present a particular challenge when working with 
HTML-based content. Since Wingdings (as well as a few other "symbol" fonts) 
conflicts with the Unicode character map, many browsers simply don't support 
it. Internet Explorer skirts the issue and displays these characters correctly."

A solution is to use the character map to do a translation from one character 
to another.

"To modify the ePublisher character map, you'll need to perform a simple 
overide of a file called 'mapentrysets.xml', which is located by default in the 
ePublisher Pro installation directory:
ePublisher Pro\Formats\Shared\html

For information on performing target overrides, please see their online 
knowledge base article here:
http://www.webworks.com/technotes/articles/ePublisherPro/EX_ePub_Project_Format_Overrides.36.1.aspx

Mary

> -Original Message-
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> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Eichelberger, Mark
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:09 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: FrameMaker/ePublisher issue
>
> Folks, I honestly do not know if this is a FrameMaker or ePublisher
> issue, but I thought I would first ask here first.
>
>
>
> We are currently using FrameMaker version 7 and have just upgraded to
> ePublisher version 2008.3.  We also use a 3rd Party plugin for FM
> called
> AutoText to define tables or graphic items for selection via a pull
> down
> menu in FM.  What we have noticed in the HTML and PDF output of our FM
> source files generated by the 2008.3 version of ePublisher is that
> symbols within the FM AutoText tables, such as the Monotype Sorts
> "Pointing Finger" or the Wingdings "Warning Bell", are being
> substituted
> by other symbols in the resulting HTML and PDF output.  For example,
> the
> warning bell symbol displays as a percentage symbol in the pdf output.
> We noticed these issues after upgrading to the 2008.3 version of
> ePublisher.   All symbols appear correctly in the html and pdf output
> when generating via our earlier version of ePublisher.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else run into an issue such as this?  If so, is it a FM
> issue
> or an ePublisher issue?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> Mark Eichelberger
>
> Senior Technical Writer
>
> Fiserv CU7
>
> Mark.Eichelberger at Aftech.Fiserv.com
>
>
>
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FrameMaker/ePublisher issue

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:50:50 -0800, Mary Anthony 
 wrote:

>This is an ePublisher issue. I have run into it.  You can search 
>characters on the ePublisher support page:
>
>"Wingdings characters present a particular challenge when working 
>with HTML-based content. Since Wingdings (as well as a few other 
>"symbol" fonts) conflicts with the Unicode character map, many 
>browsers simply don't support it. Internet Explorer skirts the 
>issue and displays these characters correctly."

Yes, there is a browser issue here, but it is tractable.  Mif2Go
handles it automatically for almost all Wingdings and Symbol chars,
and provides a simple way to map any others.  From the User's Guide:

~~~
20.5.6 Mapping characters in a special font

Characters in special fonts such as Wingdings or Webdings might 
not be rendered correctly by non-Microsoft browsers; see ?20.6.5, 
"Accommodating browser font-rendering differences." However, you 
can direct Mif2Go to replace a character in any font with its 
Unicode equivalent, or with an image, or with any HTML code, by 
providing a macro section for that font in your configuration file.

The following Web site suggests mappings from Symbol and Wingdings 
characters to the closest Unicode code points:

http://www.alanwood.net 

With the kind permission of Alan Wood, we have incorporated these 
mappings as defaults for all Mif2Go HTML conversions. The defaults 
should handle all Symbol characters (except for one, the radical 
extender) and the majority of Wingdings characters. You can override 
the defaults, or set mappings for any characters that have no 
equivalent Unicode representation.
~~

We suggest that other vendors may want to do the same; Alan Wood's
mappings are free for the asking, and the programming task is simple.

WRT the OP's question, the Alan Wood site has mappings for your 
Wingdings, but not for your Monotype Sorts.  You can, however,
scan through the Unicode tables Wood references to find Unicode
equivalents, which *all* browsers should support.

HTH!


HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Placing icons in side heads

[Diane Gaskill]

Leah,

Place an anchored frame set to  at the insertion point of the
instruction. Create a text frame inside the anchored frame and place the
icon it in.  You'll need to set the size of the anchored frame adn text
frame to be just big enough to hold the icon.

HTH
Diane Gaskill
=

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Leah
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 3:19 AM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Placing icons in side heads


FM 7.0 ; Windows XP

In one of our products, users can choose between 2 programming syntaxes.
Until now we have produced 2 different versions of the Reference Guide
(using conditional text).

We now want to produce 1 book that includes both syntaxes. The files use
side heads. I want to construct soemthing like this:

Syntax A icon (in sidehead)To tie shoelaces
1.
2.
To untie  shoelaces
   1.
   2.

Syntax B icon (in sidehead)To tie shoelaces
1.
2.
To untie  shoelaces
   1.
   2.

Questions:
1. How do I get those icons into the sideheads?
2. How do I make sure that they automatically line up with the procedure
title pgf?

TIA,

Leah Smaller
Technical Writer
Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
leah at compulite.com

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