FrameMaker 8.0p277 hanging problems

2009-02-25 Thread Shell, Robert
Hi Framers:
I have Vista Business edition with 4 gigs on a new machine.
I have quite a few years on FM so am fairly confident it is a FM problem but 
the only hard evidence is from a Vista Log file: viz.


Log Name:  Application
Source:Application Error
Date:  2009/01/10 11:58:39 AM
Event ID:  1000
Task Category: (100)
Level: Error
Keywords:  Classic
User:  N/A
Computer:  Porsche
Description:
Faulting application FrameMaker.exe, version 8.0.0.0, time stamp 0x48366e48, 
faulting module BIB.dll, version 1.2.1.1, time stamp 0x4691999f, exception 
code 0xc005, fault offset 0x1940, process id 0xddc, application 
start time 0x01c972f2a2c6cf00.
Event Xml:
http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event";>
  

1000
2
100
0x80

44723
Application
Porsche

  
  
FrameMaker.exe
8.0.0.0
48366e48
BIB.dll
1.2.1.1
4691999f
c005
1940
ddc
01c972f2a2c6cf00
  


FM hangs only while printing a .ps file from a book file. It has no problems 
generating the .ps file with low resolution images ticked, but hangs when it 
comes to the full Monty.

What is so frustrating is that there is no log file and Vista will not 
repond to 
Instead one gets the

"Logon process has failed to create the security options dialog" millions of 
queries on the web but nothing on MS sites

 and then a blue screen.

I have done subbooks and these work, but as soon as the file gets close to 
full size, the problem re-emerges.

FM 8.0p277 has worked flawlessly up to about two weeks ago. Since then there 
have been MS Vista updates but I cannot make up my mind whether this is some 
obscure service starting up or something I have not done within FM. I have 
installed nothing new

I am printing to smallest file size option within FM

Any ideas? Any fellow travelers?

Rob Shell
 > ***
> 




Using wickies

2009-02-25 Thread Richard Geiger
Our Honeywell doc group is currently using Frame 7.1, but we're considering 
using a wicki as a doc review "center."? Have any of you used a wicki as a 
joint-authorship medium--that is, have reviewers and/or customers actually 
collaborate on the same wicki file that eventually becomes the finished wicki 
(not Frame) document?





Can FrameMaker variables be part of a hypertext link without losing their formatting in CHMs generated by WebWorks?

2009-02-25 Thread Berman, Marta
Hello all.

This list has been so helpful to me, I'm hoping you can help once again!

The main question is, "Can FrameMaker variables be part of a hypertext link 
without losing their formatting in CHMs generated using WebWorks?"

The Context

* Using both FrameMaker 7.0 and 7.2 (not at the same time, of course!)
* Generating a CHM file using Webworks Publisher 2003

The Goal
--
To create a hypertext marker (in the format: "message URL 
.chm::/.htm") embedded in a phrase (such as " 
"), for example: "WidgitWorld Cool Schema Help".

Additional Factors and Complications

 is a FrameMaker variable containing the product name (for 
example, the variable contains "WidgitWorld").
 is FrameMaker text, three words (for example, "Cool Schema 
Help").
The entire phrase, productName> , has a character tag applied 
to it.
The entire phrase comprises the link; we want the entire phrase (all four 
words) to visually be part of the link.
The marker is somewhere in the middle of the phrase -- not before the variable, 
obviously not in the variable, and not right after the variable... The marker 
is applied by selecting the entire phrase.

The Problem
--
Sometimes, in an intermittent fashion, hypertext links of this sort don't 
display correctly in the CHM. Some do, some don't. The character tag format 
disappears off either the entire  text or just the first couple of 
letters of the  text.

The Solution
-
Is there one? Can FrameMaker handle variables that are part of hypertext links?

Thanks!
Marta


Marta Berman
API and Database Information Engineer  Work: 03-539-9267
Hewlett-Packard Software Cell:
052-833-7723
Building M3, Floor 3, Cube 369   Fax:03-533-1617
5 Altlafe Street
Yehud, Israel




[Techshoret] Re: FrameMaker index question

2009-02-25 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Thanks Shlomo. I tried your idea and it worked.

I just want to point out that it seems that making the fonts the same in 
index entry style and the page number style was not enough. I also had 
to click Update All to remove the overrides. I assume that is by design 
but it's a bit confusing. I wish Adobe could figure out how to simplify 
their interfaces.

-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


Shlomo Perets wrote:
> Shmuel,
>
> You wrote:
>
>  > When I make an index in FM, only the page number is hyperlinked.
>  > Someone asked me to make the text in the index also hyperlinked.
>  > Is this possible, and if so, how would I do this?
>
> If there is no character formatting present in the index, differentiating 
> the page number from the index term, the hypertext marker present in front 
> of the first page number extends its active area on both sides of the 
> marker: to the beginning of the paragraph (including the index term), and 
> to the end of the paragraph or the beginning of the next hypertext marker 
> (when there are two entries). The link defined for the index term is the 
> same as the first entry.
>
> Character formatting variations present in the reference page (IX flow) or 
> in the index entries themselves (through the source marker) will interfere 
> with this default behavior and will limit the active area to the page 
> number only.
>
>
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FrameMaker 8.0p277 hanging problems

2009-02-25 Thread Art Campbell
Are you opening all files in the book before printing?

If there are any network delays that time Frame out when it's going
through opening and printing component files, that can cause problems.

Art

Art Campbell
   art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Shell, Robert  wrote:
> Hi Framers:
> I have Vista Business edition with 4 gigs on a new machine.
> I have quite a few years on FM so am fairly confident it is a FM problem but
> the only hard evidence is from a Vista Log file: viz.
>
>
> Log Name: ? ? ?Application
> Source: ? ? ? ?Application Error
> Date: ? ? ? ? ?2009/01/10 11:58:39 AM
> Event ID: ? ? ?1000
> Task Category: (100)
> Level: ? ? ? ? Error
> Keywords: ? ? ?Classic
> User: ? ? ? ? ?N/A
> Computer: ? ? ?Porsche
> Description:
> Faulting application FrameMaker.exe, version 8.0.0.0, time stamp 0x48366e48,
> faulting module BIB.dll, version 1.2.1.1, time stamp 0x4691999f, exception
> code 0xc005, fault offset 0x1940, process id 0xddc, application
> start time 0x01c972f2a2c6cf00.
> Event Xml:
> http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event";>
> ?
> ? ?
> ? ?1000
> ? ?2
> ? ?100
> ? ?0x80
> ? ?
> ? ?44723
> ? ?Application
> ? ?Porsche
> ? ?
> ?
> ?
> ? ?FrameMaker.exe
> ? ?8.0.0.0
> ? ?48366e48
> ? ?BIB.dll
> ? ?1.2.1.1
> ? ?4691999f
> ? ?c005
> ? ?1940
> ? ?ddc
> ? ?01c972f2a2c6cf00
> ?
> 
>
> FM hangs only while printing a .ps file from a book file. It has no problems
> generating the .ps file with low resolution images ticked, but hangs when it
> comes to the full Monty.
>
> What is so frustrating is that there is no log file and Vista will not
> repond to 
> Instead one gets the
>
> "Logon process has failed to create the security options dialog" millions of
> queries on the web but nothing on MS sites
>
> ?and then a blue screen.
>
> I have done subbooks and these work, but as soon as the file gets close to
> full size, the problem re-emerges.
>
> FM 8.0p277 has worked flawlessly up to about two weeks ago. Since then there
> have been MS Vista updates but I cannot make up my mind whether this is some
> obscure service starting up or something I have not done within FM. I have
> installed nothing new
>
> I am printing to smallest file size option within FM
>
> Any ideas? Any fellow travelers?
>
> Rob Shell
> ?> ***
>>
>
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RoboSource Control

2009-02-25 Thread Joseph
Hi all,

I've recently started using RoboHelp for documentation in addition to
FrameMaker. One of the features that comes with RoboHelp is a program called
RoboSource Control. RoboSource Control is a light weight version control
program and database. I love it. It tracks every change made to a file and
because you are checking files out instead of working on a LAN, there is
very little latency like there can be with FrameMaker.

Here's my FrameMaker question: has anyone tried using RoboSource with
FrameMaker? What were your results?

I am thinking that if RoboSource could be used with FrameMaker, it would
solve the major latency issues I have been having working with large books.

-- 
Sincerely,

Joseph Lorenzini


Numbering question

2009-02-25 Thread Angela Provan
Thanks everyone for your help! I got it working.

2009/2/24 Angela Provan 

> Hi All,
>
> I have a quick question about simple numbering options. I am creating a
> doco with numbered paragraphs i.e.
>
> 2
> 2.1
> 2.1.1
>
> 2.2
> 2.2.1
>
> I have set these as heading 1, heading 2 and heading 3 but having
> difficulty with the numbering.
> I'm still new to FM and therefore fumbling my way through it so any help
> would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Angela Provan
> Maptek | Technical Writer
>
>


Zapf Dingbats mystery

2009-02-25 Thread Steve Rickaby
Here is some additional information from colleague in response to the queries 
that Art, Lester and other raised...

At 09:18 +0100 25/2/09, White Brian wrote:

>1- Yes Zapfdingbats works OK in MS Word, Open Office, FM5.5 & FM6.
>
>2- Hard printing displays exactly as shown on screen.  I've tried
>Postscript printer, non-postscript printer and Adobe PDF from Acrobat3D.
>Same result in all.
>
>3- The Framemaker Console only displays the following message- The
>"Times" Font is not available.  It will be replaced by "Times New
>Roman". (I always get this message - in FM5.5 & 6 also so it is not the
>cause of the problem).
>
>4- The latest version (I assume) of zapf dingbats would have been
>installed with FM7.
>
>I would like to reinstall the zapfdingbats font but do not know how to
>or where to get it from. I am also considering reinstalling FM7 as a last 
>resort.

-- 
Steve


Re: FrameMaker 8.0p277 hanging problems

2009-02-25 Thread Art Campbell
Are you opening all files in the book before printing?

If there are any network delays that time Frame out when it's going
through opening and printing component files, that can cause problems.

Art

Art Campbell
   art.campb...@gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Shell, Robert  wrote:
> Hi Framers:
> I have Vista Business edition with 4 gigs on a new machine.
> I have quite a few years on FM so am fairly confident it is a FM problem but
> the only hard evidence is from a Vista Log file: viz.
>
>
> Log Name:      Application
> Source:        Application Error
> Date:          2009/01/10 11:58:39 AM
> Event ID:      1000
> Task Category: (100)
> Level:         Error
> Keywords:      Classic
> User:          N/A
> Computer:      Porsche
> Description:
> Faulting application FrameMaker.exe, version 8.0.0.0, time stamp 0x48366e48,
> faulting module BIB.dll, version 1.2.1.1, time stamp 0x4691999f, exception
> code 0xc005, fault offset 0x1940, process id 0xddc, application
> start time 0x01c972f2a2c6cf00.
> Event Xml:
> http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event";>
>  
>    
>    1000
>    2
>    100
>    0x80
>    
>    44723
>    Application
>    Porsche
>    
>  
>  
>    FrameMaker.exe
>    8.0.0.0
>    48366e48
>    BIB.dll
>    1.2.1.1
>    4691999f
>    c005
>    1940
>    ddc
>    01c972f2a2c6cf00
>  
> 
>
> FM hangs only while printing a .ps file from a book file. It has no problems
> generating the .ps file with low resolution images ticked, but hangs when it
> comes to the full Monty.
>
> What is so frustrating is that there is no log file and Vista will not
> repond to 
> Instead one gets the
>
> "Logon process has failed to create the security options dialog" millions of
> queries on the web but nothing on MS sites
>
>  and then a blue screen.
>
> I have done subbooks and these work, but as soon as the file gets close to
> full size, the problem re-emerges.
>
> FM 8.0p277 has worked flawlessly up to about two weeks ago. Since then there
> have been MS Vista updates but I cannot make up my mind whether this is some
> obscure service starting up or something I have not done within FM. I have
> installed nothing new
>
> I am printing to smallest file size option within FM
>
> Any ideas? Any fellow travelers?
>
> Rob Shell
>  > ***
>>
>
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Can FrameMaker variables be part of a hypertext link without losing their formatting in CHMs generated by WebWorks?

2009-02-25 Thread Art Campbell
You don't really give details of your entire workflow... for instance
if you output to RoboHelp or MIF2go or something else...

But it I were you, given the unpredictable nature of the results and
that you're on an old version, I'd think about adding a step in
production that uses FrameScript to check and convert the variables to
text after the edit cycles are complete.

However, it would probably be worth your while to evaluate the Tech
Comm Suite 2 to see if the newer software and integrated workflow
solves your problem.

Art

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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Berman, Marta  wrote:
> Hello all.
>
> This list has been so helpful to me, I'm hoping you can help once again!
>
> The main question is, "Can FrameMaker variables be part of a hypertext link 
> without losing their formatting in CHMs generated using WebWorks?"
>
> The Context
> 
> * Using both FrameMaker 7.0 and 7.2 (not at the same time, of course!)
> * Generating a CHM file using Webworks Publisher 2003
>
> The Goal
> --
> To create a hypertext marker (in the format: "message URL 
> .chm::/.htm") embedded in a phrase (such as 
> " "), for example: "WidgitWorld Cool Schema 
> Help".
>
> Additional Factors and Complications
> 
>  is a FrameMaker variable containing the product name (for 
> example, the variable contains "WidgitWorld").
>  is FrameMaker text, three words (for example, "Cool Schema 
> Help").
> The entire phrase, productName> , has a character tag applied 
> to it.
> The entire phrase comprises the link; we want the entire phrase (all four 
> words) to visually be part of the link.
> The marker is somewhere in the middle of the phrase -- not before the 
> variable, obviously not in the variable, and not right after the variable... 
> The marker is applied by selecting the entire phrase.
>
> The Problem
> --
> Sometimes, in an intermittent fashion, hypertext links of this sort don't 
> display correctly in the CHM. Some do, some don't. The character tag format 
> disappears off either the entire  text or just the first couple 
> of letters of the  text.
>
> The Solution
> -
> Is there one? Can FrameMaker handle variables that are part of hypertext 
> links?
>
> Thanks!
> Marta
>
>
> Marta Berman
> API and Database Information Engineer ? ? ? ? ?Work: ? ? 03-539-9267
> Hewlett-Packard Software ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Cell: ? ? ? 
> ?052-833-7723
> Building M3, Floor 3, Cube 369 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Fax: ? ? ? 
> ?03-533-1617
> 5 Altlafe Street
> Yehud, Israel
>
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Zapf Dingbats mystery

2009-02-25 Thread Art Campbell
But he still doesn't say if the system default printer is set to Adobe
PDF or a hard printer somewhere, which is a key diagnostic...

Are there any other users at his site who can open the file?

Given that it works on your system, that he may be running three
unsupported versions of (FM 5-7) on a system, that he gets continual
missing fonts messages but hasn't cleared them, and that he doesn't
know how to install fonts would make me wonder about his level of
system setup expertise

Art

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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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   DoD 358



On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Steve Rickaby
 wrote:
> Here is some additional information from colleague in response to the queries 
> that Art, Lester and other raised...
>
> At 09:18 +0100 25/2/09, White Brian wrote:
>
>>1- Yes Zapfdingbats works OK in MS Word, Open Office, FM5.5 & FM6.
>>
>>2- Hard printing displays exactly as shown on screen. ?I've tried
>>Postscript printer, non-postscript printer and Adobe PDF from Acrobat3D.
>>Same result in all.
>>
>>3- The Framemaker Console only displays the following message- The
>>"Times" Font is not available. ?It will be replaced by "Times New
>>Roman". (I always get this message - in FM5.5 & 6 also so it is not the
>>cause of the problem).
>>
>>4- The latest version (I assume) of zapf dingbats would have been
>>installed with FM7.
>>
>>I would like to reinstall the zapfdingbats font but do not know how to
>>or where to get it from. I am also considering reinstalling FM7 as a last 
>>resort.
>
> --
> Steve
>


FrameMaker 8.0p277 hanging problems

2009-02-25 Thread Shell, Robert
Hi Framers:
I have Vista Business edition with 4 gigs on a new machine.
I have quite a few years on FM so am fairly confident it is a FM problem but 
the only hard evidence is from a Vista Log file: viz.


Log Name:  Application
Source:Application Error
Date:  2009/01/10 11:58:39 AM
Event ID:  1000
Task Category: (100)
Level: Error
Keywords:  Classic
User:  N/A
Computer:  Porsche
Description:
Faulting application FrameMaker.exe, version 8.0.0.0, time stamp 0x48366e48, 
faulting module BIB.dll, version 1.2.1.1, time stamp 0x4691999f, exception 
code 0xc005, fault offset 0x1940, process id 0xddc, application 
start time 0x01c972f2a2c6cf00.
Event Xml:
http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event";>
  

1000
2
100
0x80

44723
Application
Porsche

  
  
FrameMaker.exe
8.0.0.0
48366e48
BIB.dll
1.2.1.1
4691999f
c005
1940
ddc
01c972f2a2c6cf00
  


FM hangs only while printing a .ps file from a book file. It has no problems 
generating the .ps file with low resolution images ticked, but hangs when it 
comes to the full Monty.

What is so frustrating is that there is no log file and Vista will not 
repond to 
Instead one gets the

"Logon process has failed to create the security options dialog" millions of 
queries on the web but nothing on MS sites

 and then a blue screen.

I have done subbooks and these work, but as soon as the file gets close to 
full size, the problem re-emerges.

FM 8.0p277 has worked flawlessly up to about two weeks ago. Since then there 
have been MS Vista updates but I cannot make up my mind whether this is some 
obscure service starting up or something I have not done within FM. I have 
installed nothing new

I am printing to smallest file size option within FM

Any ideas? Any fellow travelers?

Rob Shell
 > ***
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RoboSource Control

2009-02-25 Thread Joseph
Hi all,

I've recently started using RoboHelp for documentation in addition to
FrameMaker. One of the features that comes with RoboHelp is a program called
RoboSource Control. RoboSource Control is a light weight version control
program and database. I love it. It tracks every change made to a file and
because you are checking files out instead of working on a LAN, there is
very little latency like there can be with FrameMaker.

Here's my FrameMaker question: has anyone tried using RoboSource with
FrameMaker? What were your results?

I am thinking that if RoboSource could be used with FrameMaker, it would
solve the major latency issues I have been having working with large books.

-- 
Sincerely,

Joseph Lorenzini
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Re: Can FrameMaker variables be part of a hypertext link without losing their formatting in CHMs generated by WebWorks?

2009-02-25 Thread Art Campbell
You don't really give details of your entire workflow... for instance
if you output to RoboHelp or MIF2go or something else...

But it I were you, given the unpredictable nature of the results and
that you're on an old version, I'd think about adding a step in
production that uses FrameScript to check and convert the variables to
text after the edit cycles are complete.

However, it would probably be worth your while to evaluate the Tech
Comm Suite 2 to see if the newer software and integrated workflow
solves your problem.

Art

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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Berman, Marta  wrote:
> Hello all.
>
> This list has been so helpful to me, I'm hoping you can help once again!
>
> The main question is, "Can FrameMaker variables be part of a hypertext link 
> without losing their formatting in CHMs generated using WebWorks?"
>
> The Context
> 
> * Using both FrameMaker 7.0 and 7.2 (not at the same time, of course!)
> * Generating a CHM file using Webworks Publisher 2003
>
> The Goal
> --
> To create a hypertext marker (in the format: "message URL 
> .chm::/.htm") embedded in a phrase (such as 
> " "), for example: "WidgitWorld Cool Schema 
> Help".
>
> Additional Factors and Complications
> 
>  is a FrameMaker variable containing the product name (for 
> example, the variable contains "WidgitWorld").
>  is FrameMaker text, three words (for example, "Cool Schema 
> Help").
> The entire phrase, productName> , has a character tag applied 
> to it.
> The entire phrase comprises the link; we want the entire phrase (all four 
> words) to visually be part of the link.
> The marker is somewhere in the middle of the phrase -- not before the 
> variable, obviously not in the variable, and not right after the variable... 
> The marker is applied by selecting the entire phrase.
>
> The Problem
> --
> Sometimes, in an intermittent fashion, hypertext links of this sort don't 
> display correctly in the CHM. Some do, some don't. The character tag format 
> disappears off either the entire  text or just the first couple 
> of letters of the  text.
>
> The Solution
> -
> Is there one? Can FrameMaker handle variables that are part of hypertext 
> links?
>
> Thanks!
> Marta
>
>
> Marta Berman
> API and Database Information Engineer          Work:     03-539-9267
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Re: Zapf Dingbats mystery

2009-02-25 Thread Art Campbell
But he still doesn't say if the system default printer is set to Adobe
PDF or a hard printer somewhere, which is a key diagnostic...

Are there any other users at his site who can open the file?

Given that it works on your system, that he may be running three
unsupported versions of (FM 5-7) on a system, that he gets continual
missing fonts messages but hasn't cleared them, and that he doesn't
know how to install fonts would make me wonder about his level of
system setup expertise

Art

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On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Steve Rickaby
 wrote:
> Here is some additional information from colleague in response to the queries 
> that Art, Lester and other raised...
>
> At 09:18 +0100 25/2/09, White Brian wrote:
>
>>1- Yes Zapfdingbats works OK in MS Word, Open Office, FM5.5 & FM6.
>>
>>2- Hard printing displays exactly as shown on screen.  I've tried
>>Postscript printer, non-postscript printer and Adobe PDF from Acrobat3D.
>>Same result in all.
>>
>>3- The Framemaker Console only displays the following message- The
>>"Times" Font is not available.  It will be replaced by "Times New
>>Roman". (I always get this message - in FM5.5 & 6 also so it is not the
>>cause of the problem).
>>
>>4- The latest version (I assume) of zapf dingbats would have been
>>installed with FM7.
>>
>>I would like to reinstall the zapfdingbats font but do not know how to
>>or where to get it from. I am also considering reinstalling FM7 as a last 
>>resort.
>
> --
> Steve
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Can FrameMaker variables be part of a hypertext link without losing their formatting in CHMs generated by WebWorks?

2009-02-25 Thread Berman, Marta
Hello all.

This list has been so helpful to me, I'm hoping you can help once again!

The main question is, "Can FrameMaker variables be part of a hypertext link 
without losing their formatting in CHMs generated using WebWorks?"

The Context

* Using both FrameMaker 7.0 and 7.2 (not at the same time, of course!)
* Generating a CHM file using Webworks Publisher 2003

The Goal
--
To create a hypertext marker (in the format: "message URL 
.chm::/.htm") embedded in a phrase (such as " 
"), for example: "WidgitWorld Cool Schema Help".

Additional Factors and Complications

 is a FrameMaker variable containing the product name (for 
example, the variable contains "WidgitWorld").
 is FrameMaker text, three words (for example, "Cool Schema 
Help").
The entire phrase, productName> , has a character tag applied 
to it.
The entire phrase comprises the link; we want the entire phrase (all four 
words) to visually be part of the link.
The marker is somewhere in the middle of the phrase -- not before the variable, 
obviously not in the variable, and not right after the variable... The marker 
is applied by selecting the entire phrase.

The Problem
--
Sometimes, in an intermittent fashion, hypertext links of this sort don't 
display correctly in the CHM. Some do, some don't. The character tag format 
disappears off either the entire  text or just the first couple of 
letters of the  text.

The Solution
-
Is there one? Can FrameMaker handle variables that are part of hypertext links?

Thanks!
Marta


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Hewlett-Packard Software Cell:
052-833-7723
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Re: [Techshoret] Re: FrameMaker index question

2009-02-25 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Thanks Shlomo. I tried your idea and it worked.

I just want to point out that it seems that making the fonts the same in 
index entry style and the page number style was not enough. I also had 
to click Update All to remove the overrides. I assume that is by design 
but it's a bit confusing. I wish Adobe could figure out how to simplify 
their interfaces.

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Shlomo Perets wrote:
> Shmuel,
>
> You wrote:
>
>  > When I make an index in FM, only the page number is hyperlinked.
>  > Someone asked me to make the text in the index also hyperlinked.
>  > Is this possible, and if so, how would I do this?
>
> If there is no character formatting present in the index, differentiating 
> the page number from the index term, the hypertext marker present in front 
> of the first page number extends its active area on both sides of the 
> marker: to the beginning of the paragraph (including the index term), and 
> to the end of the paragraph or the beginning of the next hypertext marker 
> (when there are two entries). The link defined for the index term is the 
> same as the first entry.
>
> Character formatting variations present in the reference page (IX flow) or 
> in the index entries themselves (through the source marker) will interfere 
> with this default behavior and will limit the active area to the page 
> number only.
>
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Re: Zapf Dingbats mystery

2009-02-25 Thread Steve Rickaby
Here is some additional information from colleague in response to the queries 
that Art, Lester and other raised...

At 09:18 +0100 25/2/09, White Brian wrote:

>1- Yes Zapfdingbats works OK in MS Word, Open Office, FM5.5 & FM6.
>
>2- Hard printing displays exactly as shown on screen.  I've tried
>Postscript printer, non-postscript printer and Adobe PDF from Acrobat3D.
>Same result in all.
>
>3- The Framemaker Console only displays the following message- The
>"Times" Font is not available.  It will be replaced by "Times New
>Roman". (I always get this message - in FM5.5 & 6 also so it is not the
>cause of the problem).
>
>4- The latest version (I assume) of zapf dingbats would have been
>installed with FM7.
>
>I would like to reinstall the zapfdingbats font but do not know how to
>or where to get it from. I am also considering reinstalling FM7 as a last 
>resort.

-- 
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