Webworks ePublisher

2009-04-16 Thread Maries, Anthony 
Hello Nancy, 

Webworks 7 is well out of date. We have been using Webworks 9.1 Standard
ePublisher for three years to create HTML and JavaHelp.

The first stage of the conversion process, to HTML is reliable and produces
a professional looking product which both ourselves and our customer is
happy with. 
The HTML to Java conversion we are not happy with. Despite a rock-solid
template and EDD from the FrameMaker source, the quality of the Java output
is erratic and unpredictable, with numerous formatting quirks. 

Normally we have to put in a great deal of work to produce an acceptable
product, and before you go down this route I would seriously investigate
whether there are other software packages available which can produce the
product you want.

Please feel free to email me off list if you want more information.

Tony
 

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set Aframe propertys (on import XML)

2009-04-16 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp 
Hi,

 

Would anyone know if it is possible to set  the Frame propertys of an
anchored frame (containing an imported graphic) - either by default or on
import of an XML file?

 

I would like to have the anchored frame a black border, but by default a
frame has no border.

 

Thanks . 

 

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RE: Conditional table rows

2009-04-16 Thread Lynn Durell 
Thanks Cathy,

I've got quite a few rows throughout a very long FM document, so I want to 
be sure I haven't missed any of it.

I don't have links where the conditions are used, so I luckily I haven't 
encountered the crashing problem.

Does anyone have a way of searching for these rows?

Thanks very much,
Lynn




Cathy Arthur cart...@rim.com 
15/04/2009 13:23

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Subject
RE: Conditional table rows






Hi Lynn,

I make the conditional text a very noticeable colour in the definition
for the condition. Then it is easy to spot. 

I rarely use conditional text, so this may have been fixed. If you have
a conditional table row that contains a cross-link, and the row is
hidden, FM has a real tendency to crash.

HTH

Cathy Arthur

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From: Lynn Durell [mailto:lynn.dur...@dds.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:28 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Conditional table rows

Hi Framers,

I can search for text marked with a conditional text tag no problem, but

this doesn't find table rows that are marked with that condition. Can 
someone direct me in how to search for these rows?

Thanks very much,
Lynn

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Re: Conditional table rows

2009-04-16 Thread Shlomo Perets 
Lynn,

You wrote:

  I can search for text marked with a conditional text tag no problem, but
  this doesn't find table rows that are marked with that condition. Can
  someone direct me in how to search for these rows?

Unfortunately, conditional table rows are skipped by the Find function, and 
are also not included in generated reports on conditions (IOR/LOR) [applies 
to all FM versions].
The workaround is to apply the condition to the text in the table row, in 
addition to marking the row as conditional.

This workaround helps with another problem: hypertext markers and 
cross-references in hidden conditional table rows are carried over to PDF 
as active links [applies to FM8 and earlier versions; this problem was 
fixed in FM9]


Shlomo Perets

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Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-16 Thread Joseph Lorenzini 
Hi Nancy,

I would recommend purchasing the technical communications suite 2.0 and then
using RoboHelp to create your help system. RoboHelp has built-in
functionality to import FrameMaker books directly into RoboHelp projects and
then  generate HTML files from the Frame files in the book.  I have done
this myself successfully, and as a bonus you can create Adobe AIR
applications for your help system as well.

Now there's a couple caveats to this recommendation. I am NOT suggesting
that RoboHelp is the best HAT out there, Mif2go is an excellent tool as is
Madcap Flare. However, if you already have to use Acrobat Professional and
FrameMaker, then you might as well purchase the suite and get the most bang
for your buck (the combined cost of acrobat and FM equals the suite). While
RH may not be the best tool out there is certainly good enough for creating
a help system.

On the other hand, if you aren't using FM and Acrobat professional, then my
advice may not appply.

-- 
Sincerely,

Joseph Lorenzini
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Re: Conditional table rows

2009-04-16 Thread Lynn Durell 
Hi,

Thanks, I'll see if we can alter the table rows.

Thanks for your help.

Lynn




Shlomo Perets shlo...@microtype.com 
16/04/2009 13:01

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Subject
Re: Conditional table rows






Lynn,

You wrote:

  I can search for text marked with a conditional text tag no problem, 
but
  this doesn't find table rows that are marked with that condition. Can
  someone direct me in how to search for these rows?

Unfortunately, conditional table rows are skipped by the Find function, 
and 
are also not included in generated reports on conditions (IOR/LOR) 
[applies 
to all FM versions].
The workaround is to apply the condition to the text in the table row, in 
addition to marking the row as conditional.

This workaround helps with another problem: hypertext markers and 
cross-references in hidden conditional table rows are carried over to PDF 
as active links [applies to FM8 and earlier versions; this problem was 
fixed in FM9]


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
FrameMaker/Acrobat training  consulting * FM-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants
Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-PDF  Acrobat courses




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Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-16 Thread Jim Owens 
Nancy mentioned that her client insists on Webworks 7, so all other 
options are moot.

Without knowing anything about the situation, I'd still venture that 
it's not in her client's interest to use something that's been 
discontinued. Can they be talked into a more sensible decision?


Joseph Lorenzini wrote:
. . . if you already have to use Acrobat Professional and
 FrameMaker, then you might as well purchase the suite and get the most bang
 for your buck (the combined cost of acrobat and FM equals the suite). While
 RH may not be the best tool out there is certainly good enough for creating
 a help system.

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Re: Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-16 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith 
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:13:06 -0400, Jim Owens jow...@magma.ca wrote:

Nancy mentioned that her client insists on Webworks 7, so all other 
options are moot.

Without knowing anything about the situation, I'd still venture that 
it's not in her client's interest to use something that's been 
discontinued. Can they be talked into a more sensible decision?

I just checked in the FM7 book Sarah O'Keefe wrote, and it 
appears Webworks *Standard*, the one Nancy was required
to use, does not even support HTML Help at all.  You'd have
to use the regular HTML output, then create the index, toc,
project file, alias and map files by hand, or at best do it
with HTML Help Workshop, which is almost as bad.

If the client is merely trying to save money by using a
free tool, we'll *give* her a copy of Mif2Go.  Nobody
should have to go through that process to keep a job...

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
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Import MS Word index markers into Framemaker? [RESEND]

2009-04-16 Thread Leonard Anderson 
[I posted this question about a week ago, but got no response. Perhaps
no one on this list has encountered/solved these problems before. Or
perhaps they just missed the mail.  Resending in case the latter is
true.]

Hi all,

I need to import a book, created using MS Word, into Framemaker.
Mostly this works fine, but there are problems importing the index
markers created by the author using Word. Importing simple markers
goes fine, but I have the problems listed below. (The first of these
is the most serious problem.)

1. Range index markers (e.g., "some item, pages 12-17") created using
Word's facility to create a range index based on a bookmark, don't
import correctly. The problem is that when I create the index in FM,
all that is created is a single page reference (looks like it
corresponds to the actual page where the index marker was placed in
Word), rather than a range reference. Is there a way to import MS Word
range index markers into FM?

2. In some of the MS Word index entries, fonts and italicization are
applied to the index entry text. (In MS Word, I mean that the text
"some_term" in an index entry of the form { "some_term" } may be,
e.g., italicized, or be set in a monospace font. When Word creates an
index from these markers, the font and italicization are preserved in
the index, but when the document is imported in FM, these text
attributes are lost when FM creates the index.  Is there a way of
getting FM to preserve these text attributes of the index during an
import?

3. In some of the MS Word index entries, boldfacing and italicization
are applied to the page numbering format. (In MS Word, I mean that the
index entry has, e.g., the form { "some_term" \b } or { "some_term" \b
\i }. When Word creates an index from these markers, the page numbers
are italicized and/or boldfaced, but when the document is imported in
FM, these formatting attributes are lost when FM creates the index. Is
there a way of getting FM to preserve these formatting attributes of
the index page numbers during an import?

Software versions: MS Word 2000, Framemaker 7.2.

Can anyone help with these problems, especially the first?

Thanks.

set Aframe propertys (on import XML)

2009-04-16 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp 
Hi,



Would anyone know if it is possible to set  the Frame propertys of an
anchored frame (containing an imported graphic) - either by default or on
import of an XML file?



I would like to have the anchored frame a black border, but by default a
frame has no border.



Thanks . 



Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,

Wim Hooghwinkel

Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

iDTP

International DTP and Documentation Consultancy

tel. +31652036811
  info at idtp.eu 
www.idtp.eu

Conditional table rows

2009-04-16 Thread Lynn Durell 
Thanks Cathy,

I've got quite a few rows throughout a very long FM document, so I want to 
be sure I haven't missed any of it.

I don't have links where the conditions are used, so I luckily I haven't 
encountered the crashing problem.

Does anyone have a way of searching for these rows?

Thanks very much,
Lynn




"Cathy Arthur"  
15/04/2009 13:23

To
"Lynn Durell" 
cc

Subject
RE: Conditional table rows






Hi Lynn,

I make the conditional text a very noticeable colour in the definition
for the condition. Then it is easy to spot. 

I rarely use conditional text, so this may have been fixed. If you have
a conditional table row that contains a cross-link, and the row is
hidden, FM has a real tendency to crash.

HTH

Cathy Arthur

-Original Message-
From: Lynn Durell [mailto:lynn.dur...@dds.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:28 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Conditional table rows

Hi Framers,

I can search for text marked with a conditional text tag no problem, but

this doesn't find table rows that are marked with that condition. Can 
someone direct me in how to search for these rows?

Thanks very much,
Lynn

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Conditional table rows

2009-04-16 Thread Shlomo Perets 
Lynn,

You wrote:

 > I can search for text marked with a conditional text tag no problem, but
 > this doesn't find table rows that are marked with that condition. Can
 > someone direct me in how to search for these rows?

Unfortunately, conditional table rows are skipped by the Find function, and 
are also not included in generated reports on conditions (IOR/LOR) [applies 
to all FM versions].
The workaround is to apply the condition to the text in the table row, in 
addition to marking the row as conditional.

This workaround helps with another problem: hypertext markers and 
cross-references in hidden conditional table rows are carried over to PDF 
as active links [applies to FM8 and earlier versions; this problem was 
fixed in FM9]


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants
Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-PDF & Acrobat courses

Conditional table rows

2009-04-16 Thread Lynn Durell 
Hi,

Thanks, I'll see if we can alter the table rows.

Thanks for your help.

Lynn




Shlomo Perets  
16/04/2009 13:01

To
Lynn Durell 
cc
Framers at Frameusers.com
Subject
Re: Conditional table rows






Lynn,

You wrote:

 > I can search for text marked with a conditional text tag no problem, 
but
 > this doesn't find table rows that are marked with that condition. Can
 > someone direct me in how to search for these rows?

Unfortunately, conditional table rows are skipped by the Find function, 
and 
are also not included in generated reports on conditions (IOR/LOR) 
[applies 
to all FM versions].
The workaround is to apply the condition to the text in the table row, in 
addition to marking the row as conditional.

This workaround helps with another problem: hypertext markers and 
cross-references in hidden conditional table rows are carried over to PDF 
as active links [applies to FM8 and earlier versions; this problem was 
fixed in FM9]


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants
Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-PDF & Acrobat courses

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-16 Thread Jim Owens 
Nancy mentioned that her client insists on Webworks 7, so all other 
options are moot.

Without knowing anything about the situation, I'd still venture that 
it's not in her client's interest to use something that's been 
discontinued. Can they be talked into a more sensible decision?


Joseph Lorenzini wrote:
. . . if you already have to use Acrobat Professional and
> FrameMaker, then you might as well purchase the suite and get the most bang
> for your buck (the combined cost of acrobat and FM equals the suite). While
> RH may not be the best tool out there is certainly good enough for creating
> a help system.

Usage of WebWorks (ePublisher)

2009-04-16 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith 
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:13:06 -0400, Jim Owens  wrote:

>Nancy mentioned that her client insists on Webworks 7, so all other 
>options are moot.
>
>Without knowing anything about the situation, I'd still venture that 
>it's not in her client's interest to use something that's been 
>discontinued. Can they be talked into a more sensible decision?

I just checked in the FM7 book Sarah O'Keefe wrote, and it 
appears Webworks *Standard*, the one Nancy was "required"
to use, does not even support HTML Help at all.  You'd have
to use the regular HTML output, then create the index, toc,
project file, alias and map files by hand, or at best do it
with HTML Help Workshop, which is almost as bad.

If the client is merely trying to save money by using a
"free" tool, we'll *give* her a copy of Mif2Go.  Nobody
should have to go through that process to keep a job...

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Frame Displays and Prints "Squished" .cgm files

2009-04-16 Thread Lisa Freeman 
We have a user here that is working in Frame 6.0 +SGML in a structured
document (yes we are trying to get the customer to update), on a Windows
XP machine. When he views and/or prints a page that contains a .cgm
illustration, the text is squished or flattened a bit. The same files
display fine on some other machines but not all. We have not been able
to find a common thread that causes this. We have tried checking every
setting in Frame that we can find, copied all the fonts from a "good"
machine to his, and tried every print driver in the house including
postscript, PCL, and Adobe. IT tells us that all settings on the
computers are the same as is the hardware. Strangely enough, it does
appear correctly in Frame 8. Has anyone else experienced this dilemma?
He can work around it for now by using another system to create his
deliverables, but this is driving several of us here totally batty!
Thanks in advance for any ideas you can provide.



Sincerely,

Lisa Freeman

Publications Support Analyst

O'Neil & Associates

495 Byers Road

Miamisburg, OH 45342

Phone: (937)865-0846 Ext. 3709

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