Table Footnotes
Hi Carla, I had this problem recently. Here's how I 'faked' it. I created a 'real' footnote reference in text outside the table, so the footnote text appears at the bottom of the page with the other 'real' footnotes. Then I 'hid' the footnote reference by making it white and very small. Lastly I added a superscript number in the table to resemble the footnote reference. Caution: Although this method will automatically update the footnotes if there are changes ahead of this table footnote, the fake footnote reference in the table is not updated automatically, and would have to be updated if necessary. There is probably a way of automating this. In my situation I had to make a Framemaker document look like an existing printed report. ...Chris -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla Sent: May-06-09 2:18 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Table Footnotes I haven't used table footnotes in ages, but I have a need for them in a current document. Am I losing my mind, or have they always appeared only at the *end* of the table, even when it spans pages? Pretty darn inconvenient if you've got a footnote on the first page of the table and have to go 2 pages later to find out what it means... I can't seem to find a setting to change this. -Carla - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as cseal at sympatico.ca. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/cseal%40sympatico.ca Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
Ask the engineer to save it as WMF. That keeps it as a vector graphic and you can relatively easily edit it in most drawing programs. (After you open the WMF you need to ungroup it before you can edit it.) If the engineer has some patience, ask him or her to save it in multiple formats in case one doesn't work - WMF, EMF and DXF. You can open DXF directly in CorelDraw. Good luck. If you need more details, let me know. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 Writer wrote: > I should have offered more information: > > I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to the "box" in this > illustration: http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg > > The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then received from the > engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. > > I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel Paintshop Pro, > but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with. > > Nadine > > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > > >> From: Shmuel Wolfson >> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing >> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca >> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM >> What format are they in? >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Shmuel Wolfson >> Technical Writer >> 052-763-7133 >> >> >> >> Writer wrote: >> >>> I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I >>> >> wasn't sure where else to ask this question. >> >>> I have some line drawings of our product to include in >>> >> a small hardware guide. I want to outline the illustrations >> in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it in a >> simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech >> illustrators here who are willing to let me in on their >> secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, >> and Corel Paintshop Pro. >> >>> Thank you for your indulgence, >>> >>> Nadine >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> You are currently subscribed to Framers as >>> >> shmuelw1 at gmail.com. >> >>> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >>> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >>> or visit >>> >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com >> >>> Send administrative questions to >>> >> listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> >>> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and >>> >> info. >> >>> > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as shmuelw1 at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
RE: Table Footnotes
Hi Carla, I had this problem recently. Here's how I 'faked' it. I created a 'real' footnote reference in text outside the table, so the footnote text appears at the bottom of the page with the other 'real' footnotes. Then I 'hid' the footnote reference by making it white and very small. Lastly I added a superscript number in the table to resemble the footnote reference. Caution: Although this method will automatically update the footnotes if there are changes ahead of this table footnote, the fake footnote reference in the table is not updated automatically, and would have to be updated if necessary. There is probably a way of automating this. In my situation I had to make a Framemaker document look like an existing printed report. ...Chris -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla Sent: May-06-09 2:18 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Table Footnotes I haven't used table footnotes in ages, but I have a need for them in a current document. Am I losing my mind, or have they always appeared only at the *end* of the table, even when it spans pages? Pretty darn inconvenient if you've got a footnote on the first page of the table and have to go 2 pages later to find out what it means... I can't seem to find a setting to change this. -Carla - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as cs...@sympatico.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/cseal%40sympatico.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Adobe TCS2--RoboHelp 8 integration with FrameMaker 9
Hello everybody, I just tried evaluating the Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and found that RoboHelp 8 in particular did not produce consistent results. I managed to corrupt every project I created only by continuously making changes in the style mappings from FM to RH and then regenerating. Sometimes the TOC would not generate at all. Has anyone been using RH8 and has anyone been able to get good results? If so what are you doing right? Yes I watched the tutorial Adobe produced on FM9 and RH8, which helped improve my results but it doesn't change the fact that RH8 seems unstable. Best, Peter
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Table Footnotes
Hi Carla, AFAIK, table footnotes have always behaved that way. We also have tables in our manuals that span several pages and all of the footnotes are at the bottom of the table. My big pet peeve is when the table is long enough that the footnotes flip to the top of the next page, without taking the last row of the table with them. That just looks dumb. Berny Gagne Lead Writer Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd. Bolton, Ontario, Canada -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 2:18 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Table Footnotes I haven't used table footnotes in ages, but I have a need for them in a current document. Am I losing my mind, or have they always appeared only at the *end* of the table, even when it spans pages? Pretty darn inconvenient if you've got a footnote on the first page of the table and have to go 2 pages later to find out what it means... I can't seem to find a setting to change this. -Carla
Table Footnotes
One answer is to not use the Table Footnote feature per se. Instead, create a footer row (with spanned cells) and put autonumbered notes inside it. Then in your table cells, insert cross-references to the numbers of the notes. This approach allows you to reference the same note from multiple cells, and all notes will appear on each page if the table breaks across pages. -Fred Ridder > Subject: Table Footnotes > Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:17:48 -0500 > From: CMartinek at zebra.com > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > > I haven't used table footnotes in ages, but I have a need for them in a > current document. > > Am I losing my mind, or have they always appeared only at the *end* of > the table, even when it spans pages? Pretty darn inconvenient if you've > got a footnote on the first page of the table and have to go 2 pages > later to find out what it means... > > I can't seem to find a setting to change this. > > -Carla
Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9
Hi Jen, Yes, I've downloaded both FM9 updates. The second one successfully fixed the missing Building Blocks, but this paragraph designer bug persists. Susan Corcoran Technical Writer III Honeywell Scanning & Mobility > -Original Message- > From: Jenny Greenleaf [mailto:jgreenleaf at mac.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:16 PM > To: Corcoran, Susan > Subject: Re: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9 > > I see this bug sometimes. I'm not sure what causes it. It > seems that there are several places where FM gets itself in > the wrong state. > > I am also working with a template with variables, and when I > select them in the "pod," it doesn't always show the proper > information in the Add/Edit property sheet. It seems to be > one off (i.e., showing the information for the variable > following the one selected.) Clicking around seems to solve > the problem eventually. > > I downloaded an update, but it wouldn't run on my system, and > I haven't gotten around to trying again. Has anyone > successfully updated FM9? It seems fairly buggy and has > crashed on me several times. > > Jenny Greenleaf > Greenleaf Agency, LLC > > > On May 6, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Corcoran, Susan wrote: > > > Hello fellow Framers, > > > > I've upgraded to FM9 recently and I've found an odd quirk. > I wonder > > if anyone else has seen the paragraph designer get stuck on > a single > > panel? > > I can be working along just fine, and suddenly the > paragraph designer > > refuses to switch views between Basic, Default Font, > Pagination, etc. > > I can get the dropdown list of tags, but cannot change the > tag name. > > I can get rid of the panel or pod, but each time I bring up > paragraph > > designer, it's still stuck. Occasionally I can fix this by closing > > and reopening the doc, but more often I have to restart > Framemaker. I > > work with it in both structured and unstructured and it has > happened > > with both. > > > > Has anyone else seen this or know what could cause it? > > I'm running FM9 through Tech Comm Suite on Windows XP. > > > > > > Susan Corcoran > > > > Technical Writer III > > Honeywell Scanning & Mobility > > > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as jgreenleaf at mac.com. > > > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > > or visit > > > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jgreenleaf%40mac.c > > om > > > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
Table Footnotes
Thanks. Fred & Berny's explanations remind me why I quit using table footnotes years ago, and rewriting the documentation to avoid them. Now I gotta fix these... Grrr Several tables in several files. -Carla - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email.
Table Footnotes
I haven't used table footnotes in ages, but I have a need for them in a current document. Am I losing my mind, or have they always appeared only at the *end* of the table, even when it spans pages? Pretty darn inconvenient if you've got a footnote on the first page of the table and have to go 2 pages later to find out what it means... I can't seem to find a setting to change this. -Carla - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email.
RE: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9
I don't know if this will resolve your specific issue, but I find that I must reboot my computer at the end of the day every day; otherwise, FM (and other Adobe products) tend to act in weird and unpredictable ways. Nadine --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Corcoran, Susan wrote: > From: Corcoran, Susan > Subject: RE: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9 > To: "Jenny Greenleaf" , framers@lists.frameusers.com > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 2:27 PM > Hi Jen, > > Yes, I've downloaded both FM9 updates. The second one > successfully > fixed the missing Building Blocks, but this paragraph > designer bug > persists. > > > Susan Corcoran > > Technical Writer III > Honeywell Scanning & Mobility > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jenny Greenleaf [mailto:jgreenl...@mac.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:16 PM > > To: Corcoran, Susan > > Subject: Re: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9 > > > > I see this bug sometimes. I'm not sure what causes > it. It > > seems that there are several places where FM gets > itself in > > the wrong state. > > > > I am also working with a template with variables, and > when I > > select them in the "pod," it doesn't > always show the proper > > information in the Add/Edit property sheet. It seems > to be > > one off (i.e., showing the information for the > variable > > following the one selected.) Clicking around seems to > solve > > the problem eventually. > > > > I downloaded an update, but it wouldn't run on my > system, and > > I haven't gotten around to trying again. Has > anyone > > successfully updated FM9? It seems fairly buggy and > has > > crashed on me several times. > > > > Jenny Greenleaf > > Greenleaf Agency, LLC > > > > > > On May 6, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Corcoran, Susan wrote: > > > > > Hello fellow Framers, > > > > > > I've upgraded to FM9 recently and I've > found an odd quirk. > > I wonder > > > if anyone else has seen the paragraph designer > get stuck on > > a single > > > panel? > > > I can be working along just fine, and suddenly > the > > paragraph designer > > > refuses to switch views between Basic, Default > Font, > > Pagination, etc. > > > I can get the dropdown list of tags, but cannot > change the > > tag name. > > > I can get rid of the panel or pod, but each time > I bring up > > paragraph > > > designer, it's still stuck. Occasionally I > can fix this by closing > > > and reopening the doc, but more often I have to > restart > > Framemaker. I > > > work with it in both structured and unstructured > and it has > > happened > > > with both. > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this or know what could > cause it? > > > I'm running FM9 through Tech Comm Suite on > Windows XP. > > > > > > > > > Susan Corcoran > > > > > > Technical Writer III > > > Honeywell Scanning & Mobility > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > jgreenl...@mac.com. > > > > > > Send list messages to > fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > > > or visit > > > > > > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jgreenleaf%40mac.c > > > om > > > > > > Send administrative questions to > listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > generic...@yahoo.ca. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. > Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9
I don't know if this will resolve your specific issue, but I find that I must reboot my computer at the end of the day every day; otherwise, FM (and other Adobe products) tend to act in weird and unpredictable ways. Nadine --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Corcoran, Susan wrote: > From: Corcoran, Susan > Subject: RE: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9 > To: "Jenny Greenleaf" , framers at lists.frameusers.com > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 2:27 PM > Hi Jen, > > Yes, I've downloaded both FM9 updates. The second one > successfully > fixed the missing Building Blocks, but this paragraph > designer bug > persists. > > > Susan Corcoran > > Technical Writer III > Honeywell Scanning & Mobility > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jenny Greenleaf [mailto:jgreenleaf at mac.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:16 PM > > To: Corcoran, Susan > > Subject: Re: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9 > > > > I see this bug sometimes. I'm not sure what causes > it. It > > seems that there are several places where FM gets > itself in > > the wrong state. > > > > I am also working with a template with variables, and > when I > > select them in the "pod," it doesn't > always show the proper > > information in the Add/Edit property sheet. It seems > to be > > one off (i.e., showing the information for the > variable > > following the one selected.) Clicking around seems to > solve > > the problem eventually. > > > > I downloaded an update, but it wouldn't run on my > system, and > > I haven't gotten around to trying again. Has > anyone > > successfully updated FM9? It seems fairly buggy and > has > > crashed on me several times. > > > > Jenny Greenleaf > > Greenleaf Agency, LLC > > > > > > On May 6, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Corcoran, Susan wrote: > > > > > Hello fellow Framers, > > > > > > I've upgraded to FM9 recently and I've > found an odd quirk. > > I wonder > > > if anyone else has seen the paragraph designer > get stuck on > > a single > > > panel? > > > I can be working along just fine, and suddenly > the > > paragraph designer > > > refuses to switch views between Basic, Default > Font, > > Pagination, etc. > > > I can get the dropdown list of tags, but cannot > change the > > tag name. > > > I can get rid of the panel or pod, but each time > I bring up > > paragraph > > > designer, it's still stuck. Occasionally I > can fix this by closing > > > and reopening the doc, but more often I have to > restart > > Framemaker. I > > > work with it in both structured and unstructured > and it has > > happened > > > with both. > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this or know what could > cause it? > > > I'm running FM9 through Tech Comm Suite on > Windows XP. > > > > > > > > > Susan Corcoran > > > > > > Technical Writer III > > > Honeywell Scanning & Mobility > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > jgreenleaf at mac.com. > > > > > > Send list messages to > framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > > > or visit > > > > > > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jgreenleaf%40mac.c > > > om > > > > > > Send administrative questions to > listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > generic668 at yahoo.ca. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. > Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table Footnotes
Thanks. Fred & Berny's explanations remind me why I quit using table footnotes years ago, and rewriting the documentation to avoid them. Now I gotta fix these... Grrr Several tables in several files. -Carla - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table Footnotes
Hi Carla, AFAIK, table footnotes have always behaved that way. We also have tables in our manuals that span several pages and all of the footnotes are at the bottom of the table. My big pet peeve is when the table is long enough that the footnotes flip to the top of the next page, without taking the last row of the table with them. That just looks dumb. Berny Gagne Lead Writer Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd. Bolton, Ontario, Canada -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 2:18 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Table Footnotes I haven't used table footnotes in ages, but I have a need for them in a current document. Am I losing my mind, or have they always appeared only at the *end* of the table, even when it spans pages? Pretty darn inconvenient if you've got a footnote on the first page of the table and have to go 2 pages later to find out what it means... I can't seem to find a setting to change this. -Carla ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9
Hello fellow Framers, I've upgraded to FM9 recently and I've found an odd quirk. I wonder if anyone else has seen the paragraph designer get stuck on a single panel? I can be working along just fine, and suddenly the paragraph designer refuses to switch views between Basic, Default Font, Pagination, etc. I can get the dropdown list of tags, but cannot change the tag name. I can get rid of the panel or pod, but each time I bring up paragraph designer, it's still stuck. Occasionally I can fix this by closing and reopening the doc, but more often I have to restart Framemaker. I work with it in both structured and unstructured and it has happened with both. Has anyone else seen this or know what could cause it? I'm running FM9 through Tech Comm Suite on Windows XP. Susan Corcoran Technical Writer III Honeywell Scanning & Mobility
RE: Table Footnotes
One answer is to not use the Table Footnote feature per se. Instead, create a footer row (with spanned cells) and put autonumbered notes inside it. Then in your table cells, insert cross-references to the numbers of the notes. This approach allows you to reference the same note from multiple cells, and all notes will appear on each page if the table breaks across pages. -Fred Ridder > Subject: Table Footnotes > Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:17:48 -0500 > From: cmarti...@zebra.com > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > > I haven't used table footnotes in ages, but I have a need for them in a > current document. > > Am I losing my mind, or have they always appeared only at the *end* of > the table, even when it spans pages? Pretty darn inconvenient if you've > got a footnote on the first page of the table and have to go 2 pages > later to find out what it means... > > I can't seem to find a setting to change this. > > -Carla ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9
Hi Jen, Yes, I've downloaded both FM9 updates. The second one successfully fixed the missing Building Blocks, but this paragraph designer bug persists. Susan Corcoran Technical Writer III Honeywell Scanning & Mobility > -Original Message- > From: Jenny Greenleaf [mailto:jgreenl...@mac.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:16 PM > To: Corcoran, Susan > Subject: Re: Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9 > > I see this bug sometimes. I'm not sure what causes it. It > seems that there are several places where FM gets itself in > the wrong state. > > I am also working with a template with variables, and when I > select them in the "pod," it doesn't always show the proper > information in the Add/Edit property sheet. It seems to be > one off (i.e., showing the information for the variable > following the one selected.) Clicking around seems to solve > the problem eventually. > > I downloaded an update, but it wouldn't run on my system, and > I haven't gotten around to trying again. Has anyone > successfully updated FM9? It seems fairly buggy and has > crashed on me several times. > > Jenny Greenleaf > Greenleaf Agency, LLC > > > On May 6, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Corcoran, Susan wrote: > > > Hello fellow Framers, > > > > I've upgraded to FM9 recently and I've found an odd quirk. > I wonder > > if anyone else has seen the paragraph designer get stuck on > a single > > panel? > > I can be working along just fine, and suddenly the > paragraph designer > > refuses to switch views between Basic, Default Font, > Pagination, etc. > > I can get the dropdown list of tags, but cannot change the > tag name. > > I can get rid of the panel or pod, but each time I bring up > paragraph > > designer, it's still stuck. Occasionally I can fix this by closing > > and reopening the doc, but more often I have to restart > Framemaker. I > > work with it in both structured and unstructured and it has > happened > > with both. > > > > Has anyone else seen this or know what could cause it? > > I'm running FM9 through Tech Comm Suite on Windows XP. > > > > > > Susan Corcoran > > > > Technical Writer III > > Honeywell Scanning & Mobility > > > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as jgreenl...@mac.com. > > > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > > or visit > > > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jgreenleaf%40mac.c > > om > > > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Table Footnotes
I haven't used table footnotes in ages, but I have a need for them in a current document. Am I losing my mind, or have they always appeared only at the *end* of the table, even when it spans pages? Pretty darn inconvenient if you've got a footnote on the first page of the table and have to go 2 pages later to find out what it means... I can't seem to find a setting to change this. -Carla - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
I'd open the supplied PDF in Illustrator, select the object (you may need to select lines and create an object), then bump the line width. Or Live trace may work. Then SaveAs to create a new PDF. As Fred and others pointed out, avoid JPG at all costs. You're already in one of the most correct formats for what you want to do, so don't mess with that part of it. As Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:49 AM, David Spreadbury wrote: > Because you are posting this question to frameusers, I assume you are using > Framemaker as your authoring tool. > > You can do this in several ways: > If the graphics don't require additional editting, in Frame you can open the > Graphics tools, select the anchored frame, select the Pen Pattern in the > Graphics icons and set it to whatever color you like. You can set the line > width from the Graphics tools as well. > > If there is some additional work to be done to the graphics in Illustrator, > Photoshop, or Corel, you can create a rectangle, larger than you graphic, and > then position the graphic within the rectangle. > > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Writer wrote: > > From: Writer > Subject: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 8:42 AM > > I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I wasn't sure where > else to ask this question. > > I have some line drawings of our product to include in a small hardware guide. > I want to outline the illustrations in a heavier line, but I don't know how > to do it in a simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech > illustrators > here who are willing to let me in on their secret? I have access to Adobe > Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, and Corel Paintshop Pro. > > Thank you for your indulgence, > > Nadine > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as dspreadb at yahoo.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
David Spreadbury wrote: > Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the SolidWorks PDF > in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector image. > > In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase the line width to > the desired thickness. > > Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking for. Sounds like good advice, except for the JPEG part. JPEG (Joint Photographic Experts Group) is a format optimized for photographs, and should NEVER be used for any other graphic type (especially not for line drawings). Better choices would be PNG, TIFF, PDF, or EPS. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "Ah, but a man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?" --with apologies to Robert Browning and the people next door
OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
Responding to Nadine, David Spreadbury wrote: > Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the SolidWorks PDF > in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector image. > > In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase the line width to > the desired thickness. > > Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking for. That's the same advice I was going to offer--right up to the last step. Exporting to JPEG is the worst of all possible options. The best advice is to use the PDF directly in the FrameMaker file. Using PDF graphics in a FrameMaker document has almost no compromises. The graphic is fully scalable with no loss of quality since it is still in vector form. It prints perfectly, and the on-screen display is excellent (EPS prints fine, but uses an ugly, low-res bitmap rendering for on-screen display). Next best would be to export to EPS, EMF, or WMF, since all of those are vector formats which allow the image to be rescaled witout loss of quality. Next in line would be exporting to PNG or GIF or TIFF, all of which are raster image formats. These are fixed-resolution formats which do compromise scalability, but other than freezingf the resolution they are lossless. Last on the list would be JPEG, which is an inherently lossy format that was designed specifically for *photographic* images where the properties of the image conceal the image degradation and artifacts that are inevitably produced by the format's area-based image compression algorithm. JPEG is particularly ill-suited for line art or images containing text because it produces artifacts (a kind of gray smudginess) surrounding letters in text or alongside lines in a drawing. -Fred Ridder
OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
Fred, I was going with what the original poster mentioned, assuming the customer was specifying JPEG. I recently ran into this issue and am not having any problems with the Illustrator-to-JPEG graphics. Personally, I would opt for GIF, but not from Illustrator. I would export the Illustrator file to Photoshop and then use Photoshop to create the GIG. I have run into too many issues with GIFs from Illustrator. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:50 AM To: generic668 at yahoo.ca; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing Responding to Nadine, David Spreadbury wrote: > Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the SolidWorks PDF > in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector image. > > In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase the line width to > the desired thickness. > > Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking for. That's the same advice I was going to offer--right up to the last step. Exporting to JPEG is the worst of all possible options. The best advice is to use the PDF directly in the FrameMaker file. Using PDF graphics in a FrameMaker document has almost no compromises. The graphic is fully scalable with no loss of quality since it is still in vector form. It prints perfectly, and the on-screen display is excellent (EPS prints fine, but uses an ugly, low-res bitmap rendering for on-screen display). Next best would be to export to EPS, EMF, or WMF, since all of those are vector formats which allow the image to be rescaled witout loss of quality. Next in line would be exporting to PNG or GIF or TIFF, all of which are raster image formats. These are fixed-resolution formats which do compromise scalability, but other than freezingf the resolution they are lossless. Last on the list would be JPEG, which is an inherently lossy format that was designed specifically for *photographic* images where the properties of the image conceal the image degradation and artifacts that are inevitably produced by the format's area-based image compression algorithm. JPEG is particularly ill-suited for line art or images containing text because it produces artifacts (a kind of gray smudginess) surrounding letters in text or alongside lines in a drawing. -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dspreadb at yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the SolidWorks PDF in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector image. In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase the line width to the desired thickness. Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking for. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:30 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing I should have offered more information: I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to the "box" in this illustration: http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then received from the engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel Paintshop Pro, but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with. Nadine --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > From: Shmuel Wolfson > Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing > To: generic668 at yahoo.ca > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM > What format are they in? > > -- > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > Technical Writer > 052-763-7133 > > > > Writer wrote: > > I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I > wasn't sure where else to ask this question. > > > > I have some line drawings of our product to include in > a small hardware guide. I want to outline the illustrations > in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it in a > simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech > illustrators here who are willing to let me in on their > secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, > and Corel Paintshop Pro. > > > > Thank you for your indulgence, > > > > Nadine > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > shmuelw1 at gmail.com. > > > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > > > Send administrative questions to > listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > > > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dspreadb at yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
If you can't select individual lines from the pdf in illustrator, try using the Live Trace tool (technical illustration preset) to create a new vector version of the illustration. Expand the result and you can select and modify the stroke of individual lines. Live Trace may be CS3 and newer only. Jona On May 6, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Writer wrote: > > I don't think the engineer saved it as a vectored drawing, because I > can't seem to select individual parts of the illustration. I'll see > if he can do that, and then I'll try it in Illustrator again. > > Thanks, folks. > > Nadine > > > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, David Spreadbury wrote: > >> From: David Spreadbury >> Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing >> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca, framers at lists.frameusers.com >> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:34 AM >> Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the >> SolidWorks PDF >> in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector >> image. >> >> In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase >> the line width to >> the desired thickness. >> >> Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking >> for. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com >> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of >> Writer >> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:30 AM >> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line >> drawing >> >> >> I should have offered more information: >> >> I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to >> the "box" in >> this illustration: >> http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg >> >> The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then >> received from the >> engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. >> >> I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel >> Paintshop Pro, >> but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with. >> >> Nadine >> >> --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson >> wrote: >> >>> From: Shmuel Wolfson >>> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a >> line drawing >>> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca >>> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM >>> What format are they in? >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Shmuel Wolfson >>> Technical Writer >>> 052-763-7133 >>> >>> >>> >>> Writer wrote: I apologize for the OT nature of this question, >> but I >>> wasn't sure where else to ask this question. I have some line drawings of our product to >> include in >>> a small hardware guide. I want to outline the >> illustrations >>> in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it >> in a >>> simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech >>> illustrators here who are willing to let me in on >> their >>> secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe >> Photoshop, >>> and Corel Paintshop Pro. Thank you for your indulgence, Nadine ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as >>> shmuelw1 at gmail.com. Send list messages to >> framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit >>> >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to >>> listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and >>> info. >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as >> dspreadb at yahoo.com. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. >> Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as jsteenbrink at bluefinrobotics.com > . > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsteenbrink%40bluefinrobotics.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. Jona Steenbrink Technical Writer Bluefin Robotics email: jsteenbrink at bluefinrobotics.com phone: 720-379-7502 AIM: pjsteenbrink Skype: jonasteenbrink www.bluefinrobotics.com
Paragraph Designer Sticks in FM9
Hello fellow Framers, I've upgraded to FM9 recently and I've found an odd quirk. I wonder if anyone else has seen the paragraph designer get stuck on a single panel? I can be working along just fine, and suddenly the paragraph designer refuses to switch views between Basic, Default Font, Pagination, etc. I can get the dropdown list of tags, but cannot change the tag name. I can get rid of the panel or pod, but each time I bring up paragraph designer, it's still stuck. Occasionally I can fix this by closing and reopening the doc, but more often I have to restart Framemaker. I work with it in both structured and unstructured and it has happened with both. Has anyone else seen this or know what could cause it? I'm running FM9 through Tech Comm Suite on Windows XP. Susan Corcoran Technical Writer III Honeywell Scanning & Mobility ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
I'd open the supplied PDF in Illustrator, select the object (you may need to select lines and create an object), then bump the line width. Or Live trace may work. Then SaveAs to create a new PDF. As Fred and others pointed out, avoid JPG at all costs. You're already in one of the most correct formats for what you want to do, so don't mess with that part of it. As Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:49 AM, David Spreadbury wrote: > Because you are posting this question to frameusers, I assume you are using > Framemaker as your authoring tool. > > You can do this in several ways: > If the graphics don't require additional editting, in Frame you can open the > Graphics tools, select the anchored frame, select the Pen Pattern in the > Graphics icons and set it to whatever color you like. You can set the line > width from the Graphics tools as well. > > If there is some additional work to be done to the graphics in Illustrator, > Photoshop, or Corel, you can create a rectangle, larger than you graphic, and > then position the graphic within the rectangle. > > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Writer wrote: > > From: Writer > Subject: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 8:42 AM > > I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I wasn't sure where > else to ask this question. > > I have some line drawings of our product to include in a small hardware guide. > I want to outline the illustrations in a heavier line, but I don't know how > to do it in a simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech > illustrators > here who are willing to let me in on their secret? I have access to Adobe > Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, and Corel Paintshop Pro. > > Thank you for your indulgence, > > Nadine > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
Fred, I was going with what the original poster mentioned, assuming the customer was specifying JPEG. I recently ran into this issue and am not having any problems with the Illustrator-to-JPEG graphics. Personally, I would opt for GIF, but not from Illustrator. I would export the Illustrator file to Photoshop and then use Photoshop to create the GIG. I have run into too many issues with GIFs from Illustrator. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:50 AM To: generic...@yahoo.ca; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing Responding to Nadine, David Spreadbury wrote: > Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the SolidWorks PDF > in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector image. > > In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase the line width to > the desired thickness. > > Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking for. That's the same advice I was going to offer--right up to the last step. Exporting to JPEG is the worst of all possible options. The best advice is to use the PDF directly in the FrameMaker file. Using PDF graphics in a FrameMaker document has almost no compromises. The graphic is fully scalable with no loss of quality since it is still in vector form. It prints perfectly, and the on-screen display is excellent (EPS prints fine, but uses an ugly, low-res bitmap rendering for on-screen display). Next best would be to export to EPS, EMF, or WMF, since all of those are vector formats which allow the image to be rescaled witout loss of quality. Next in line would be exporting to PNG or GIF or TIFF, all of which are raster image formats. These are fixed-resolution formats which do compromise scalability, but other than freezingf the resolution they are lossless. Last on the list would be JPEG, which is an inherently lossy format that was designed specifically for *photographic* images where the properties of the image conceal the image degradation and artifacts that are inevitably produced by the format's area-based image compression algorithm. JPEG is particularly ill-suited for line art or images containing text because it produces artifacts (a kind of gray smudginess) surrounding letters in text or alongside lines in a drawing. -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
David Spreadbury wrote: > Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the SolidWorks PDF > in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector image. > > In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase the line width to > the desired thickness. > > Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking for. Sounds like good advice, except for the JPEG part. JPEG (Joint Photographic Experts Group) is a format optimized for photographs, and should NEVER be used for any other graphic type (especially not for line drawings). Better choices would be PNG, TIFF, PDF, or EPS. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "Ah, but a man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?" --with apologies to Robert Browning and the people next door ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
If you can't select individual lines from the pdf in illustrator, try using the Live Trace tool (technical illustration preset) to create a new vector version of the illustration. Expand the result and you can select and modify the stroke of individual lines. Live Trace may be CS3 and newer only. Jona On May 6, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Writer wrote: > > I don't think the engineer saved it as a vectored drawing, because I > can't seem to select individual parts of the illustration. I'll see > if he can do that, and then I'll try it in Illustrator again. > > Thanks, folks. > > Nadine > > > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, David Spreadbury wrote: > >> From: David Spreadbury >> Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing >> To: generic...@yahoo.ca, framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:34 AM >> Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the >> SolidWorks PDF >> in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector >> image. >> >> In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase >> the line width to >> the desired thickness. >> >> Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking >> for. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com >> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of >> Writer >> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:30 AM >> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line >> drawing >> >> >> I should have offered more information: >> >> I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to >> the "box" in >> this illustration: >> http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg >> >> The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then >> received from the >> engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. >> >> I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel >> Paintshop Pro, >> but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with. >> >> Nadine >> >> --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson >> wrote: >> >>> From: Shmuel Wolfson >>> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a >> line drawing >>> To: generic...@yahoo.ca >>> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM >>> What format are they in? >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Shmuel Wolfson >>> Technical Writer >>> 052-763-7133 >>> >>> >>> >>> Writer wrote: I apologize for the OT nature of this question, >> but I >>> wasn't sure where else to ask this question. I have some line drawings of our product to >> include in >>> a small hardware guide. I want to outline the >> illustrations >>> in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it >> in a >>> simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech >>> illustrators here who are willing to let me in on >> their >>> secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe >> Photoshop, >>> and Corel Paintshop Pro. Thank you for your indulgence, Nadine ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as >>> shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to >> fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit >>> >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to >>> listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and >>> info. >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as >> dspre...@yahoo.com. >> >> Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com >> >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. >> Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as jsteenbr...@bluefinrobotics.com > . > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsteenbrink%40bluefinrobotics.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. Jona Steenbrink Technical Writer Bluefin Robotics email: jsteenbr...@bluefinrobotics.com phone: 720-379-7502 AIM: pjsteenbrink Skype: jonasteenbrink www.bluefinrobotics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%
Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
Thanks, Shmuel. You guys are awesome (and patient). Nadine --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > From: Shmuel Wolfson > Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing > To: generic...@yahoo.ca, "Framers" > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:50 AM > Ask the engineer to save it as WMF. That keeps it as a > vector graphic and you can relatively easily edit it in most > drawing programs. (After you open the WMF you need to > ungroup it before you can edit it.) If the engineer has some > patience, ask him or her to save it in multiple formats in > case one doesn't work - WMF, EMF and DXF. You can open > DXF directly in CorelDraw. > > Good luck. If you need more details, let me know. > > -- Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > Technical Writer > 052-763-7133 > > > Writer wrote: > > I should have offered more information: > > > > I want to create an outline to the actual object > similar to the "box" in this illustration: > http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg > > > > The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I > then received from the engineer in PDF format. I converted > the PDF to .jpg. > > I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in > Corel Paintshop Pro, but it doesn't give me a smooth > outline to work with. > > > > Nadine > > > > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson > wrote: > > > > > >> From: Shmuel Wolfson > >> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - > Outlining a line drawing > >> To: generic...@yahoo.ca > >> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM > >> What format are they in? > >> > >> -- Regards, > >> Shmuel Wolfson > >> Technical Writer > >> 052-763-7133 > >> > >> > >> > >> Writer wrote: > >> > >>> I apologize for the OT nature of this > question, but I > >>> > >> wasn't sure where else to ask this question. > >> > >>> I have some line drawings of our product to > include in > >>> > >> a small hardware guide. I want to outline the > illustrations > >> in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do > it in a > >> simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any > tech > >> illustrators here who are willing to let me in on > their > >> secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe > Photoshop, > >> and Corel Paintshop Pro. > >> > >>> Thank you for your indulgence, > >>> > >>> Nadine > >>> > ___ > >>> > >>> > >>> You are currently subscribed to Framers as > >>> > >> shmue...@gmail.com. > >> > >>> Send list messages to > fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > >>> > >>> To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > >>> or visit > >>> > >> > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > >> > >>> Send administrative questions to > >>> > >> listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > >> > >>> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources > and > >>> > >> info. > >> > >>> > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > shmue...@gmail.com. > > > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > > > Send administrative questions to > listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > > > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
Thanks, Shmuel. You guys are awesome (and patient). Nadine --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > From: Shmuel Wolfson > Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing > To: generic668 at yahoo.ca, "Framers" > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:50 AM > Ask the engineer to save it as WMF. That keeps it as a > vector graphic and you can relatively easily edit it in most > drawing programs. (After you open the WMF you need to > ungroup it before you can edit it.) If the engineer has some > patience, ask him or her to save it in multiple formats in > case one doesn't work - WMF, EMF and DXF. You can open > DXF directly in CorelDraw. > > Good luck. If you need more details, let me know. > > -- Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > Technical Writer > 052-763-7133 > > > Writer wrote: > > I should have offered more information: > > > > I want to create an outline to the actual object > similar to the "box" in this illustration: > http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg > > > > The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I > then received from the engineer in PDF format. I converted > the PDF to .jpg. > > I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in > Corel Paintshop Pro, but it doesn't give me a smooth > outline to work with. > > > > Nadine > > > > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson > wrote: > > > > > >> From: Shmuel Wolfson > >> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - > Outlining a line drawing > >> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca > >> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM > >> What format are they in? > >> > >> -- Regards, > >> Shmuel Wolfson > >> Technical Writer > >> 052-763-7133 > >> > >> > >> > >> Writer wrote: > >> > >>> I apologize for the OT nature of this > question, but I > >>> > >> wasn't sure where else to ask this question. > >> > >>> I have some line drawings of our product to > include in > >>> > >> a small hardware guide. I want to outline the > illustrations > >> in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do > it in a > >> simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any > tech > >> illustrators here who are willing to let me in on > their > >> secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe > Photoshop, > >> and Corel Paintshop Pro. > >> > >>> Thank you for your indulgence, > >>> > >>> Nadine > >>> > ___ > >>> > >>> > >>> You are currently subscribed to Framers as > >>> > >> shmuelw1 at gmail.com. > >> > >>> Send list messages to > framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >>> > >>> To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > >>> or visit > >>> > >> > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > >> > >>> Send administrative questions to > >>> > >> listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > >> > >>> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources > and > >>> > >> info. > >> > >>> > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > shmuelw1 at gmail.com. > > > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > > > Send administrative questions to > listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > > > >
Coverting Word docs to Structured Framemaker
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Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
Ask the engineer to save it as WMF. That keeps it as a vector graphic and you can relatively easily edit it in most drawing programs. (After you open the WMF you need to ungroup it before you can edit it.) If the engineer has some patience, ask him or her to save it in multiple formats in case one doesn't work - WMF, EMF and DXF. You can open DXF directly in CorelDraw. Good luck. If you need more details, let me know. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 Writer wrote: > I should have offered more information: > > I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to the "box" in this > illustration: http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg > > The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then received from the > engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. > > I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel Paintshop Pro, > but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with. > > Nadine > > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > > >> From: Shmuel Wolfson >> Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing >> To: generic...@yahoo.ca >> Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM >> What format are they in? >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Shmuel Wolfson >> Technical Writer >> 052-763-7133 >> >> >> >> Writer wrote: >> >>> I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I >>> >> wasn't sure where else to ask this question. >> >>> I have some line drawings of our product to include in >>> >> a small hardware guide. I want to outline the illustrations >> in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it in a >> simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech >> illustrators here who are willing to let me in on their >> secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, >> and Corel Paintshop Pro. >> >>> Thank you for your indulgence, >>> >>> Nadine >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> You are currently subscribed to Framers as >>> >> shmue...@gmail.com. >> >>> Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >>> framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com >>> or visit >>> >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com >> >>> Send administrative questions to >>> >> listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >> >>> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and >>> >> info. >> >>> > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as shmue...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
Responding to Nadine, David Spreadbury wrote: > Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the SolidWorks PDF > in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector image. > > In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase the line width to > the desired thickness. > > Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking for. That's the same advice I was going to offer--right up to the last step. Exporting to JPEG is the worst of all possible options. The best advice is to use the PDF directly in the FrameMaker file. Using PDF graphics in a FrameMaker document has almost no compromises. The graphic is fully scalable with no loss of quality since it is still in vector form. It prints perfectly, and the on-screen display is excellent (EPS prints fine, but uses an ugly, low-res bitmap rendering for on-screen display). Next best would be to export to EPS, EMF, or WMF, since all of those are vector formats which allow the image to be rescaled witout loss of quality. Next in line would be exporting to PNG or GIF or TIFF, all of which are raster image formats. These are fixed-resolution formats which do compromise scalability, but other than freezingf the resolution they are lossless. Last on the list would be JPEG, which is an inherently lossy format that was designed specifically for *photographic* images where the properties of the image conceal the image degradation and artifacts that are inevitably produced by the format's area-based image compression algorithm. JPEG is particularly ill-suited for line art or images containing text because it produces artifacts (a kind of gray smudginess) surrounding letters in text or alongside lines in a drawing. -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
I don't think the engineer saved it as a vectored drawing, because I can't seem to select individual parts of the illustration. I'll see if he can do that, and then I'll try it in Illustrator again. Thanks, folks. Nadine --- On Wed, 5/6/09, David Spreadbury wrote: > From: David Spreadbury > Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing > To: generic...@yahoo.ca, framers@lists.frameusers.com > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:34 AM > Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the > SolidWorks PDF > in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector > image. > > In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase > the line width to > the desired thickness. > > Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking > for. > > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of > Writer > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:30 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line > drawing > > > I should have offered more information: > > I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to > the "box" in > this illustration: > http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg > > The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then > received from the > engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. > > I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel > Paintshop Pro, > but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with. > > Nadine > > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson > wrote: > > > From: Shmuel Wolfson > > Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a > line drawing > > To: generic...@yahoo.ca > > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM > > What format are they in? > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Shmuel Wolfson > > Technical Writer > > 052-763-7133 > > > > > > > > Writer wrote: > > > I apologize for the OT nature of this question, > but I > > wasn't sure where else to ask this question. > > > > > > I have some line drawings of our product to > include in > > a small hardware guide. I want to outline the > illustrations > > in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it > in a > > simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech > > illustrators here who are willing to let me in on > their > > secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe > Photoshop, > > and Corel Paintshop Pro. > > > > > > Thank you for your indulgence, > > > > > > Nadine > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > > shmue...@gmail.com. > > > > > > Send list messages to > fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > > > or visit > > > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > > > > > Send administrative questions to > > listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > > info. > > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > dspre...@yahoo.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. > Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
I don't think the engineer saved it as a vectored drawing, because I can't seem to select individual parts of the illustration. I'll see if he can do that, and then I'll try it in Illustrator again. Thanks, folks. Nadine --- On Wed, 5/6/09, David Spreadbury wrote: > From: David Spreadbury > Subject: RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing > To: generic668 at yahoo.ca, framers at lists.frameusers.com > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:34 AM > Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the > SolidWorks PDF > in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector > image. > > In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase > the line width to > the desired thickness. > > Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking > for. > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of > Writer > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:30 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line > drawing > > > I should have offered more information: > > I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to > the "box" in > this illustration: > http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg > > The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then > received from the > engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. > > I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel > Paintshop Pro, > but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with. > > Nadine > > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson > wrote: > > > From: Shmuel Wolfson > > Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a > line drawing > > To: generic668 at yahoo.ca > > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM > > What format are they in? > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Shmuel Wolfson > > Technical Writer > > 052-763-7133 > > > > > > > > Writer wrote: > > > I apologize for the OT nature of this question, > but I > > wasn't sure where else to ask this question. > > > > > > I have some line drawings of our product to > include in > > a small hardware guide. I want to outline the > illustrations > > in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it > in a > > simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech > > illustrators here who are willing to let me in on > their > > secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe > Photoshop, > > and Corel Paintshop Pro. > > > > > > Thank you for your indulgence, > > > > > > Nadine > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > > shmuelw1 at gmail.com. > > > > > > Send list messages to > framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > > > or visit > > > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > > > > > Send administrative questions to > > listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > > info. > > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > dspreadb at yahoo.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. > Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
Since you said that you have Illustrator available. Open the SolidWorks PDF in Illustrator. Illustrator should recognize it as a vector image. In Illustrator, select the objects you want and increase the line width to the desired thickness. Export it as JPEG and you should have what you are looking for. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:30 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing I should have offered more information: I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to the "box" in this illustration: http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then received from the engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel Paintshop Pro, but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with. Nadine --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > From: Shmuel Wolfson > Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing > To: generic...@yahoo.ca > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM > What format are they in? > > -- > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > Technical Writer > 052-763-7133 > > > > Writer wrote: > > I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I > wasn't sure where else to ask this question. > > > > I have some line drawings of our product to include in > a small hardware guide. I want to outline the illustrations > in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it in a > simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech > illustrators here who are willing to let me in on their > secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, > and Corel Paintshop Pro. > > > > Thank you for your indulgence, > > > > Nadine > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > shmue...@gmail.com. > > > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > > > Send administrative questions to > listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > > > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
I should have offered more information: I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to the "box" in this illustration: http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then received from the engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel Paintshop Pro, but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with. Nadine --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > From: Shmuel Wolfson > Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing > To: generic...@yahoo.ca > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM > What format are they in? > > -- > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > Technical Writer > 052-763-7133 > > > > Writer wrote: > > I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I > wasn't sure where else to ask this question. > > > > I have some line drawings of our product to include in > a small hardware guide. I want to outline the illustrations > in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it in a > simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech > illustrators here who are willing to let me in on their > secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, > and Corel Paintshop Pro. > > > > Thank you for your indulgence, > > > > Nadine > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > shmue...@gmail.com. > > > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > > > Send administrative questions to > listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > > > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
I should have offered more information: I want to create an outline to the actual object similar to the "box" in this illustration: http://www.khulsey.com/3_point_perspective_fig10.jpeg The illustration was created in SolidWorks, which I then received from the engineer in PDF format. I converted the PDF to .jpg. I can select the outline using the Magic Wand tool in Corel Paintshop Pro, but it doesn't give me a smooth outline to work with. Nadine --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > From: Shmuel Wolfson > Subject: Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing > To: generic668 at yahoo.ca > Received: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:12 AM > What format are they in? > > -- > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > Technical Writer > 052-763-7133 > > > > Writer wrote: > > I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I > wasn't sure where else to ask this question. > > > > I have some line drawings of our product to include in > a small hardware guide. I want to outline the illustrations > in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it in a > simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech > illustrators here who are willing to let me in on their > secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, > and Corel Paintshop Pro. > > > > Thank you for your indulgence, > > > > Nadine > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > shmuelw1 at gmail.com. > > > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > > > Send administrative questions to > listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > > > >
Re: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
Because you are posting this question to frameusers, I assume you are using Framemaker as your authoring tool. You can do this in several ways: If the graphics don't require additional editting, in Frame you can open the Graphics tools, select the anchored frame, select the Pen Pattern in the Graphics icons and set it to whatever color you like. You can set the line width from the Graphics tools as well. If there is some additional work to be done to the graphics in Illustrator, Photoshop, or Corel, you can create a rectangle, larger than you graphic, and then position the graphic within the rectangle. --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Writer wrote: From: Writer Subject: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 8:42 AM I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I wasn't sure where else to ask this question. I have some line drawings of our product to include in a small hardware guide. I want to outline the illustrations in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it in a simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech illustrators here who are willing to let me in on their secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, and Corel Paintshop Pro. Thank you for your indulgence, Nadine ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
Because you are posting this question to frameusers, I assume you are using Framemaker as your authoring tool. ? You can do this in several ways: If the graphics don't require additional editting, in Frame you can open the Graphics tools, select the anchored frame, select the Pen Pattern in the Graphics icons and set it to whatever color you like. You can set the line width from the Graphics tools as well. ? If there is some additional work to be done to the graphics in Illustrator, Photoshop, or Corel, you can create a rectangle, larger than you graphic, and then position the graphic within the rectangle. --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Writer wrote: From: Writer Subject: OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 8:42 AM I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I wasn't sure where else to ask this question. I have some line drawings of our product to include in a small hardware guide. I want to outline the illustrations in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it in a simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech illustrators here who are willing to let me in on their secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, and Corel Paintshop Pro. Thank you for your indulgence, Nadine ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dspreadb at yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I wasn't sure where else to ask this question. I have some line drawings of our product to include in a small hardware guide. I want to outline the illustrations in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it in a simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech illustrators here who are willing to let me in on their secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, and Corel Paintshop Pro. Thank you for your indulgence, Nadine ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Technical illustrations - Outlining a line drawing
I apologize for the OT nature of this question, but I wasn't sure where else to ask this question. I have some line drawings of our product to include in a small hardware guide. I want to outline the illustrations in a heavier line, but I don't know how to do it in a simple, efficient, competent way. Are there any tech illustrators here who are willing to let me in on their secret? I have access to Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, and Corel Paintshop Pro. Thank you for your indulgence, Nadine
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