Fw: PDF problem with ending of error message

2009-06-20 Thread Cynthia Cobb
Just realzied I forgot to include the end of the file:

%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%



- Forwarded Message 
From: Cynthia Cobb 
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:14:14 PM
Subject: PDF problem


I hope you all can help me. I'm using Frame  7.0p578 on Windows XP. 

When I do a File Save As a PDF. I am getting the following error message in the 
text file that is saved:

%%[Page: 163]%%
%%[Page: 164]%%
%%[Page: 165]%%
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: p ]%%
Stack:
-mark-
/Block
/Placement
/Layout
/O
-mark-
{AT.12.106506}
-mark-

I have updated 7.0 with the latest patch but I still get the error message.  I 
have even tried priting the file using the Distiller and I get the following 
error message:

%%[Page: 179]%%
%%[Page: 180]%%
%%[Page: 181]%%
%%[Page: 182]%%
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: øûýPÞ ]%%
Stack:
/Block
/Placement
/Layout
/O
-mark-
{AT.14.311306}
-mark-
 
Thanks for any help you can give me.
 
Cynthia
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PDF problem

2009-06-20 Thread Cynthia Cobb
I hope you all can help me. I'm using Frame  7.0p578 on Windows XP. 

When I do a File Save As a PDF. I am getting the following error message in the 
text file that is saved:

%%[Page: 163]%%
%%[Page: 164]%%
%%[Page: 165]%%
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: p ]%%
Stack:
-mark-
/Block
/Placement
/Layout
/O
-mark-
{AT.12.106506}
-mark-

I have updated 7.0 with the latest patch but I still get the error message.  I 
have even tried priting the file using the Distiller and I get the following 
error message:

%%[Page: 179]%%
%%[Page: 180]%%
%%[Page: 181]%%
%%[Page: 182]%%
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: øûýPÞ ]%%
Stack:
/Block
/Placement
/Layout
/O
-mark-
{AT.14.311306}
-mark-
 
Thanks for any help you can give me.
 
Cynthia
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Font Issues - Unavaiilable Fonts and Font Information Changed - Recap

2009-06-20 Thread Oran Petersen


Following the two recent threads on the list concerning fonts, I did not see a 
comprehensive recap of these issues for cause and cure. 

CAUSE-Unavailable fonts 

1. Most postscript printers come loaded with a set of Postscript fonts. 

2. If you set a postscript printer as your default, Windows will "see" these 
fonts and allow you to?use them in your documents. Also, if you copy/paste text 
from another document that uses them you can also inject them into your 
documents. 

3. Most computers do not have the postscript fonts installed. They must be 
purchased, and are not part of the default Windows font packages. Frankly, in 
today's world, unless you have very specific requirements, most of us do not 
need the postscript fonts. 

4. When you create PDF, you are using the Adobe PDF virtual printer, which does 
not have the postscript fonts, as it is not "real". This severs the connection 
to the postscript printer, and thus to the fonts. You will therefore get the 
"Unavailable Fonts" message whenever you do a PDF. 

5. The most common postscript fonts have an equivalent OpenType or TrueType. 
The two worst offenders are postscript Helvetica = Opentype Arial and 
postscript Times = opentype Times New Roman. Default mapping will change to the 
opentype unless you have changed the setting to do otherwise. 

6. With XP and Vista, the need to use postscript fonts, and the need to use 
special tools to manage fonts is essentially gone for most of us. 

7. Of course, any time you open a document from another source, that source may 
use any number of fonts not on your system, including Company specific and 
proprietary fonts for logos, etc. This will always display the font message 
when you first open the file. 



CURE-Unavailable fonts 

We have over 130 FrameMaker users bringing in data from multiple sources, 
including customers, on a regular basis. This data is added to our files 
several different ways. In spite of this, we now have very little issue with 
font messages by adopting the following: 



1. In your templates, use only opentype fonts, preferably within the default 
font set included with Windows. If you have any postscript fonts defined in 
your template, get rid of them. If you must have a special font, be absolutely 
certain that it is loaded on every computer in your system that may open the 
files. (We have one of these) When new machines come in, your SA must load 
these fonts as part of the setup for the machine. If you do work at home, your 
machine must have the fonts. 

2. In FrameMaker, as suggested earlier in the thread, uncheck the "Remember 
Missing Font Names" in Preferences. Caution: If you open a file with this 
setting that has needed fonts not on your machine, you will corrupt the file. 
The Frame Console will inform you of which fonts are mapped and to which 
font.?Either do not save the file, or temporarily check the box to "remember" 
the font if you must edit on this machine. 

3. Set your default printer to Adobe PDF. This severs the connection to "bad" 
postscript fonts on your printers. 

Steps 2 & 3 will "remap" any "bad" fonts brought in by editing or using data 
from other sources, and keep your files clean. 



CAUSE-"Font Information Changed" message when changing printers from the 
FrameMaker print dialog. 

This message appears whenever you select a printer other than the default from 
within the FrameMaker print dialog. FrameMaker is warning you that you may get 
unexpected font issues due to this change, regardless of any "real" issues. 



CURE-"Font Information Changed" 

This one is quite obvious. Either live with the message or don't change the 
printer in the dialog. Our authors mostly use Adobe PDF as the default printer, 
which also solves the other font issues. Most of our print output is PDF. If we 
need a paper print from Frame we live with the message when we point to the 
postscript printer. This is becoming more rare as most authors work with PDF on 
screen now. 

Hope this helps. 

Oran 


Fw: PDF problem with ending of error message

2009-06-20 Thread Cynthia Cobb
Just realzied I forgot to include the end of the file:

%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%



- Forwarded Message 
From: Cynthia Cobb 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:14:14 PM
Subject: PDF problem


I hope you all can help me. I'm using Frame? 7.0p578 on Windows XP. 

When I?do a File Save As a PDF. I am getting the following error message in the 
text file that is saved:

%%[Page: 163]%%
%%[Page: 164]%%
%%[Page: 165]%%
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: p ]%%
Stack:
-mark-
/Block
/Placement
/Layout
/O
-mark-
{AT.12.106506}
-mark-

I have updated 7.0 with the latest patch but I still get the error message.? I 
have even tried priting the file using the Distiller and I get the following 
error message:

%%[Page: 179]%%
%%[Page: 180]%%
%%[Page: 181]%%
%%[Page: 182]%%
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: ???P? ]%%
Stack:
/Block
/Placement
/Layout
/O
-mark-
{AT.14.311306}
-mark-
?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
?
Cynthia


PDF problem

2009-06-20 Thread Cynthia Cobb
I hope you all can help me. I'm using Frame? 7.0p578 on Windows XP. 

When I?do a File Save As a PDF. I am getting the following error message in the 
text file that is saved:

%%[Page: 163]%%
%%[Page: 164]%%
%%[Page: 165]%%
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: p ]%%
Stack:
-mark-
/Block
/Placement
/Layout
/O
-mark-
{AT.12.106506}
-mark-

I have updated 7.0 with the latest patch but I still get the error message.? I 
have even tried priting the file using the Distiller and I get the following 
error message:

%%[Page: 179]%%
%%[Page: 180]%%
%%[Page: 181]%%
%%[Page: 182]%%
%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: ???P? ]%%
Stack:
/Block
/Placement
/Layout
/O
-mark-
{AT.14.311306}
-mark-
?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
?
Cynthia


Getting Rid of Font Change Warning

2009-06-20 Thread Art Campbell
Fei Min,

The idea here is to set the Adobe PDF printer as the system default
printer so that Frame will have a stable baseline and not access to
fonts on hard physical printers that cannot be included in a PDF.

With that in mind, the answers to your questions would be:
1. No. This action sets the printer to which you will print the
document. It does nothing to set or unset the default system printer.
One has little to do with the other.

2. Assuming the PDF printer is the system default, you may get the
"system fonts" message if you print to a printer other than the
default. But so what? Unless your quick discussion has to do with
fonts, it shouldn't be a problem. If the fonts and kerning and so on
are critical to the discussion, yes, you should produce a PDF and
print that because it will exactly reflect the document.

Art

Art Campbell
   art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Fei Min
Lorente wrote:
> Before I go installing the SetPrint utility, I have a couple of
> questions:
>
> - Can I imitate this utility by going to File > Print Setup and choosing
> Adobe PDF as the printer? Is this saved for FrameMaker in general, or
> for the book that I have open?
>
> - If I install SetPrint, does it mean that when I want to print a few
> pages for a quick discussion, I have to generate a PDF and print from
> that?
>
> Fei Min
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jeremy at omsys.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 3:43 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Cc: Fei Min Lorente
> Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Font Change Warning
>
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:46:28 -0700, "Fei Min Lorente"
>  wrote:
>
>>Does anyone know how I stop this warning from appearing when I'm
>>printing a FrameMaker manual?
>>
>>"Font information for your system has changed. This change may affect
>>the format and output of your document(s)"
>
> That means that the printer driver set for Frame changed.
>
>>I usually just click OK and carry on, but now we're trying to print as
>>part of an automated workflow process, and there's no one there to
>>click OK. In fact, you don't even see FrameMaker open on the screen.
>>
>>I tried opening Print Setup for the book and selecting my default
>>printer. I've also tried selecting Adobe PDF as the printer.
>
> Try installing SetPrint, a free utility from Sundorne:
> ?http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm
>
> It lets you specify a different default printer for Frame than the one
> you have as the system default, and should prevent this problem by
> keeping the printer selection in Frame fixed, preferably at Adobe PDF.
>
> While you are there, check out Ian's other three new free Frame
> utilities. ?His $25 commercial one, IndexRef, is absolutely essential if
> you want fully functional Frame indexes, where See and See-also
> references really work.
>
>>I'm using FrameMaker 7.2 on an XP machine, and I'm actually creating a
>>PDF using the FDK, then converting the book to HTML files using Mif2Go.
>>It's creating the PDF just fine, then failing during the HTML
>>conversion. Nothing is wrong with the Mif2Go configuration; the same
>>files work just fine interactively.
>
> Are you using runfm to handle the conversions? ?It works for both PDF
> and Mif2Go projects. ?If not, see if that helps; we go to some lengths
> to prevent Frame from asking for anything from the user, since the user
> is usually not there...
>
> -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
> ? ?http://www.omsys.com/
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Re: FM9 & DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?)

2009-06-20 Thread Lynne A. Price
At 11:36 AM 6/18/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote:
>Here's another FM9 question.  I can't find anything on the Adobe website 
>about this.  Does anyone know if FM9 supports a version of DocBook later 
>than 4.2?  FM8 supports only DB 4.2 and there are some serious 
>limitations.  Unfortunately, we cannot switch to DITA because we have a 
>contract to provide OEM docs with a customer that uses DocBook. Otherwise, 
>we'd never have used DB at all.

Diane,
   The FM9 DocBook starter kit uses DocBook 4.1.2 for XML and DocBook 4.1 
for SGML, but your own application can use a later version, whether you 
start from scratch or base your work on the starter kit. To create your own 
EDD from the starter kit EDD and update to a later version, open the 
starter kit EDD, then use the StructureTools > Import DTD command. In the 
resulting dialog box, specify the DTD for the version of DocBook you want 
to use as the DTD to import.
 --Lynne


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Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, 
and training
lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com
voice/fax: (510) 583-1505  cell phone: (510) 421-2284 

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FM9 & DocBook (was FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?)

2009-06-20 Thread Lynne A. Price
At 11:36 AM 6/18/2009, Diane Gaskill wrote:
>Here's another FM9 question.  I can't find anything on the Adobe website 
>about this.  Does anyone know if FM9 supports a version of DocBook later 
>than 4.2?  FM8 supports only DB 4.2 and there are some serious 
>limitations.  Unfortunately, we cannot switch to DITA because we have a 
>contract to provide OEM docs with a customer that uses DocBook. Otherwise, 
>we'd never have used DB at all.

Diane,
   The FM9 DocBook starter kit uses DocBook 4.1.2 for XML and DocBook 4.1 
for SGML, but your own application can use a later version, whether you 
start from scratch or base your work on the starter kit. To create your own 
EDD from the starter kit EDD and update to a later version, open the 
starter kit EDD, then use the StructureTools > Import DTD command. In the 
resulting dialog box, specify the DTD for the version of DocBook you want 
to use as the DTD to import.
 --Lynne


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Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, 
and training
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Re: Getting Rid of Font Change Warning

2009-06-20 Thread Art Campbell
Fei Min,

The idea here is to set the Adobe PDF printer as the system default
printer so that Frame will have a stable baseline and not access to
fonts on hard physical printers that cannot be included in a PDF.

With that in mind, the answers to your questions would be:
1. No. This action sets the printer to which you will print the
document. It does nothing to set or unset the default system printer.
One has little to do with the other.

2. Assuming the PDF printer is the system default, you may get the
"system fonts" message if you print to a printer other than the
default. But so what? Unless your quick discussion has to do with
fonts, it shouldn't be a problem. If the fonts and kerning and so on
are critical to the discussion, yes, you should produce a PDF and
print that because it will exactly reflect the document.

Art

Art Campbell
   art.campb...@gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Fei Min
Lorente wrote:
> Before I go installing the SetPrint utility, I have a couple of
> questions:
>
> - Can I imitate this utility by going to File > Print Setup and choosing
> Adobe PDF as the printer? Is this saved for FrameMaker in general, or
> for the book that I have open?
>
> - If I install SetPrint, does it mean that when I want to print a few
> pages for a quick discussion, I have to generate a PDF and print from
> that?
>
> Fei Min
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 3:43 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Cc: Fei Min Lorente
> Subject: Re: Getting Rid of Font Change Warning
>
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:46:28 -0700, "Fei Min Lorente"
>  wrote:
>
>>Does anyone know how I stop this warning from appearing when I'm
>>printing a FrameMaker manual?
>>
>>"Font information for your system has changed. This change may affect
>>the format and output of your document(s)"
>
> That means that the printer driver set for Frame changed.
>
>>I usually just click OK and carry on, but now we're trying to print as
>>part of an automated workflow process, and there's no one there to
>>click OK. In fact, you don't even see FrameMaker open on the screen.
>>
>>I tried opening Print Setup for the book and selecting my default
>>printer. I've also tried selecting Adobe PDF as the printer.
>
> Try installing SetPrint, a free utility from Sundorne:
>  http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm
>
> It lets you specify a different default printer for Frame than the one
> you have as the system default, and should prevent this problem by
> keeping the printer selection in Frame fixed, preferably at Adobe PDF.
>
> While you are there, check out Ian's other three new free Frame
> utilities.  His $25 commercial one, IndexRef, is absolutely essential if
> you want fully functional Frame indexes, where See and See-also
> references really work.
>
>>I'm using FrameMaker 7.2 on an XP machine, and I'm actually creating a
>>PDF using the FDK, then converting the book to HTML files using Mif2Go.
>>It's creating the PDF just fine, then failing during the HTML
>>conversion. Nothing is wrong with the Mif2Go configuration; the same
>>files work just fine interactively.
>
> Are you using runfm to handle the conversions?  It works for both PDF
> and Mif2Go projects.  If not, see if that helps; we go to some lengths
> to prevent Frame from asking for anything from the user, since the user
> is usually not there...
>
> -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
>    http://www.omsys.com/
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Re: Merge Multiple Doc Styles

2009-06-20 Thread Karen Robbins
Jeff, Good point--trouble finds many opportunities. I see 
inconsistencies in master pages, get color def errors (which luckily 
have little ramification in this particular project), and have 
recently discovered that if those before me had only used C-head 
level properly I wouldn't have to struggle quite so much with the 
HTML mapping table! ;-) Also working on ways to get co-users to use 
character styles (more) correctly.

Jim, Thanks for pointer to reference materials.

Thanks to all!

Karen

>Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:47:11 -0500
>From: "Jeff Schweiner" 
>Subject: re: Merge Multiple Doc Styles
>To: 
>Message-ID:
>   <925346a443d4e340beb20248bafcdbdf0b717...@cfevs1-ip.americas.cray.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"
>
>Karen,
>
>Rick makes a good point that a complete template should include more
>than just paragraph tags and mentioned Character and Table formats.  I
>went thru this about 1.5 years ago and found inconsistencies in the
>following areas:
>- Conditional Text tags
>- Variable and Running Header/Footer definitions
>- Master Page layouts
>- Reference page contents
>- Color definitions
>- Cross Ref formats
>- Text Options
>- Footnotes
>- HTML setup (only if saving as HTML)
>
>As a rough rule of thumb, your template should include everything that
>is selectable from the Import Formats pop-up menu.
>
>--
>Jeff Schweiner
>Hardware Engineering Writer
>Cray Inc.
>(715) 726-4801

= = = =

At 3:19 PM -0500 6/19/09, Pinkham, Jim wrote:
>Some very good advice, too, in the Adobe FrameMaker Template Series
>Primer,
>http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/tempseries/pdfs/primer.pdf, and
>FrameMaker Template Design and Enforcement,
>http://www.microtype.com/resources/articles/TMPDESIN_DE.PDF, which is
>broadly applicable notwithstanding its structured emphasis.
>
>Jim
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Font Issues - Unavaiilable Fonts and Font Information Changed - Recap

2009-06-20 Thread Oran Petersen


Following the two recent threads on the list concerning fonts, I did not see a 
comprehensive recap of these issues for cause and cure. 

CAUSE-Unavailable fonts 

1. Most postscript printers come loaded with a set of Postscript fonts. 

2. If you set a postscript printer as your default, Windows will "see" these 
fonts and allow you to use them in your documents. Also, if you copy/paste text 
from another document that uses them you can also inject them into your 
documents. 

3. Most computers do not have the postscript fonts installed. They must be 
purchased, and are not part of the default Windows font packages. Frankly, in 
today's world, unless you have very specific requirements, most of us do not 
need the postscript fonts. 

4. When you create PDF, you are using the Adobe PDF virtual printer, which does 
not have the postscript fonts, as it is not "real". This severs the connection 
to the postscript printer, and thus to the fonts. You will therefore get the 
"Unavailable Fonts" message whenever you do a PDF. 

5. The most common postscript fonts have an equivalent OpenType or TrueType. 
The two worst offenders are postscript Helvetica = Opentype Arial and 
postscript Times = opentype Times New Roman. Default mapping will change to the 
opentype unless you have changed the setting to do otherwise. 

6. With XP and Vista, the need to use postscript fonts, and the need to use 
special tools to manage fonts is essentially gone for most of us. 

7. Of course, any time you open a document from another source, that source may 
use any number of fonts not on your system, including Company specific and 
proprietary fonts for logos, etc. This will always display the font message 
when you first open the file. 



CURE-Unavailable fonts 

We have over 130 FrameMaker users bringing in data from multiple sources, 
including customers, on a regular basis. This data is added to our files 
several different ways. In spite of this, we now have very little issue with 
font messages by adopting the following: 



1. In your templates, use only opentype fonts, preferably within the default 
font set included with Windows. If you have any postscript fonts defined in 
your template, get rid of them. If you must have a special font, be absolutely 
certain that it is loaded on every computer in your system that may open the 
files. (We have one of these) When new machines come in, your SA must load 
these fonts as part of the setup for the machine. If you do work at home, your 
machine must have the fonts. 

2. In FrameMaker, as suggested earlier in the thread, uncheck the "Remember 
Missing Font Names" in Preferences. Caution: If you open a file with this 
setting that has needed fonts not on your machine, you will corrupt the file. 
The Frame Console will inform you of which fonts are mapped and to which 
font. Either do not save the file, or temporarily check the box to "remember" 
the font if you must edit on this machine. 

3. Set your default printer to Adobe PDF. This severs the connection to "bad" 
postscript fonts on your printers. 

Steps 2 & 3 will "remap" any "bad" fonts brought in by editing or using data 
from other sources, and keep your files clean. 



CAUSE-"Font Information Changed" message when changing printers from the 
FrameMaker print dialog. 

This message appears whenever you select a printer other than the default from 
within the FrameMaker print dialog. FrameMaker is warning you that you may get 
unexpected font issues due to this change, regardless of any "real" issues. 



CURE-"Font Information Changed" 

This one is quite obvious. Either live with the message or don't change the 
printer in the dialog. Our authors mostly use Adobe PDF as the default printer, 
which also solves the other font issues. Most of our print output is PDF. If we 
need a paper print from Frame we live with the message when we point to the 
postscript printer. This is becoming more rare as most authors work with PDF on 
screen now. 

Hope this helps. 

Oran 
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Logging FrameMaker book errors in a text file

2009-06-20 Thread Rick Quatro
FrameMaker Console window messages are stored in a file called consfile.txt
in the FrameMaker folder. So, for any message written there, you can look at
this file after the build process completes.

For more complete reporting and scripting abilities, take a look at
FrameScript (http://www.framescript.com). You can likely do everything you
are doing with your existing tools, plus much more. In your situation, you
could include a pre-processing script that would check your imported
graphics and cross-references, writing any problems to an error report.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
rick at frameexpert.com
585-659-8267


I have several scripts to automate our PDF and HTML builds.  The builds are
completely custom (Bash scripts calling a combination of dzbatcher and Perl
scripts). We do not use Webworks.

Everything is working fine, except for reporting missing imported graphics.
We also sometimes get false errors in the consfile.txt file for "unresolved
cross references" that actually work fine.

I've seen this question asked before on some of the other forums (probably
here too), but here goes:  Is there any RELIABLE way to capture book build
errors in a text file during a batch build process launched on the command
line?


- The Framester




RE: FM9: Book within a book, generated files not in PDF

2009-06-20 Thread Lynne A. Price
At 10:16 AM 6/18/2009, Combs, Richard wrote:
>Kees van de Wal wrote:
>
> > A few days ago I've posted a message about the disappearing TOC when
> > printing a book with a childbook. See e-mail below.
> >
> > Someone told me this is an intended functionality of FM. When you
>print
> > the childbook, you want to see the TOC, but when you print the
>main-book
> > you don't want to see the TOC from the childbook. I can follow this
> > explanation but it is not what I want.
> >
> > Does anybody know a way to work around this functionality?
>
>Try this: Add a new FM doc to the main-book just before the child-book.
>In the new doc, import the main flow of the child-bookTOC by reference
>to create a text inset. Update and print.
>



Richard, Kees,
   No need to use text insets. You can add a generated file from the child 
book as a regular file in the parent book. Doing so achieves the desired 
results as long as the TOC is the first component of the child book. If 
not, try creating a second book that is identical to the child book except 
add the TOC as an existing FM file instead of as a generated file. Then, 
you can use the original child book to update the TOC but include the 
modified one in the parent book.
 --Lynne




Lynne A. Price
Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, 
and training
lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com
voice/fax: (510) 583-1505  cell phone: (510) 421-2284 

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FM9: Book within a book, generated files not in PDF

2009-06-20 Thread Lynne A. Price
At 10:16 AM 6/18/2009, Combs, Richard wrote:
>Kees van de Wal wrote:
>
> > A few days ago I've posted a message about the disappearing TOC when
> > printing a book with a childbook. See e-mail below.
> >
> > Someone told me this is an intended functionality of FM. When you
>print
> > the childbook, you want to see the TOC, but when you print the
>main-book
> > you don't want to see the TOC from the childbook. I can follow this
> > explanation but it is not what I want.
> >
> > Does anybody know a way to work around this functionality?
>
>Try this: Add a new FM doc to the main-book just before the child-book.
>In the new doc, import the main flow of the child-bookTOC by reference
>to create a text inset. Update and print.
>



Richard, Kees,
   No need to use text insets. You can add a generated file from the child 
book as a regular file in the parent book. Doing so achieves the desired 
results as long as the TOC is the first component of the child book. If 
not, try creating a second book that is identical to the child book except 
add the TOC as an existing FM file instead of as a generated file. Then, 
you can use the original child book to update the TOC but include the 
modified one in the parent book.
 --Lynne




Lynne A. Price
Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, 
and training
lprice at txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com
voice/fax: (510) 583-1505  cell phone: (510) 421-2284 



RE: Logging FrameMaker book errors in a text file

2009-06-20 Thread Rick Quatro
FrameMaker Console window messages are stored in a file called consfile.txt
in the FrameMaker folder. So, for any message written there, you can look at
this file after the build process completes.

For more complete reporting and scripting abilities, take a look at
FrameScript (http://www.framescript.com). You can likely do everything you
are doing with your existing tools, plus much more. In your situation, you
could include a pre-processing script that would check your imported
graphics and cross-references, writing any problems to an error report.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-659-8267


I have several scripts to automate our PDF and HTML builds.  The builds are
completely custom (Bash scripts calling a combination of dzbatcher and Perl
scripts). We do not use Webworks.

Everything is working fine, except for reporting missing imported graphics.
We also sometimes get false errors in the consfile.txt file for "unresolved
cross references" that actually work fine.

I've seen this question asked before on some of the other forums (probably
here too), but here goes:  Is there any RELIABLE way to capture book build
errors in a text file during a batch build process launched on the command
line?


- The Framester


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Merge Multiple Doc Styles

2009-06-20 Thread Karen Robbins
Jeff, Good point--trouble finds many opportunities. I see 
inconsistencies in master pages, get color def errors (which luckily 
have little ramification in this particular project), and have 
recently discovered that if those before me had only used C-head 
level properly I wouldn't have to struggle quite so much with the 
HTML mapping table! ;-) Also working on ways to get co-users to use 
character styles (more) correctly.

Jim, Thanks for pointer to reference materials.

Thanks to all!

Karen

>Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:47:11 -0500
>From: "Jeff Schweiner" 
>Subject: re: Merge Multiple Doc Styles
>To: 
>Message-ID:
>   <925346A443D4E340BEB20248BAFCDBDF0B717F57 at 
> CFEVS1-IP.americas.cray.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"
>
>Karen,
>
>Rick makes a good point that a complete template should include more
>than just paragraph tags and mentioned Character and Table formats.  I
>went thru this about 1.5 years ago and found inconsistencies in the
>following areas:
>- Conditional Text tags
>- Variable and Running Header/Footer definitions
>- Master Page layouts
>- Reference page contents
>- Color definitions
>- Cross Ref formats
>- Text Options
>- Footnotes
>- HTML setup (only if saving as HTML)
>
>As a rough rule of thumb, your template should include everything that
>is selectable from the Import Formats pop-up menu.
>
>--
>Jeff Schweiner
>Hardware Engineering Writer
>Cray Inc.
>(715) 726-4801

= = = =

At 3:19 PM -0500 6/19/09, Pinkham, Jim wrote:
>Some very good advice, too, in the Adobe FrameMaker Template Series
>Primer,
>http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/tempseries/pdfs/primer.pdf, and
>FrameMaker Template Design and Enforcement,
>http://www.microtype.com/resources/articles/TMPDESIN_DE.PDF, which is
>broadly applicable notwithstanding its structured emphasis.
>
>Jim