Re: Upgrading FM from 7.1 to 9

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:48:30 -0800, Lea Rush l...@astoria-pacific.com wrote:

I did a comparison of RH vs. Mif2Go at the beginning of the year, and the
biggest difference I found was that RH supported Natural Language search.
Does Mif2Go support that, or will it?

If I understand you correctly, you are talking about WebHelp
search, right?  So you are comparing RH WebHelp with OmniHelp.
(For other Help formats, like HTML Help, search is built in so 
that it is the same regardless of the tool used.)

One difference is that OmniHelp is Open Source (LGPL), and
RH WebHelp is proprietary.  That means that with OmniHelp,
you can add any search engine you please, by modifying the
JavaScript.  It's not trivial, but it's certainly possible.

For OmniHelp, our goal is to make it very fast to respond,
because people using Help systems want to find the info they
need quickly and get on with the job they are doing.  So we
do all the search indexing at authoring time, and provide a
JavaScript array, ready to use, so that search even of large
docs is instantaneous.  That approach pretty much limits you
to keyword search (including regex), which we feel is a very
reasonable price to pay for the high speed.  We also feel that
an index, properly done, is superior to any form of search.

So we're not inclined to invest the time needed to implement
Natural Language search in OmniHelp ourselves.  It would
slow down searches, especially on large doc sets, dramatically, 
for a rather questionable benefit.  However, anyone who really 
wants it can certainly add it as an option, and redistribute
the result legally, which may not be possible under less 
permissive licenses.

And, of course, there are quite a few other differences that
we consider much more significant... but that's your call.  ;-)

HTH!

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Re: Disappearing anchored frames: strange FrameMaker bug

[Klaus Daube]

On 1 Dec 2009 at 9:48, Steve Rickaby wrote:

 Yes, but it still shouldn't have disappeared. In this case the following
 few pages have a stack of tables and both anchored and floating frames.

I once had the problem describe here: http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker33.html
I guess the same may happen to anchored frames.

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cross book links in PDF portfolios or combined books

[Fred Wersan]

I was experimenting a bit yesterday with PDF Portfolios and combined 
books. Either method seems like a good way to give readers a central 
starting point for a doc set. However I noticed that the xref links 
between books, which work fine between individual book PDFs, did not 
work within the portfolios or combined book file. (In fact, if the 
portfolio is in the same directory as individual books, acrobat jumps 
out to the individual book - which is what you would expect, I guess.)

Has anyone used portfolios or combined books, and if so, how have you 
handled inter-book links? (I use Timesavers to make my inter-book links 
work.)

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Re: Auto-numbering figures across files

[Art Campbell]

Heidi,
You mention that you've set the numbering properties, but you don't say
where you've set them.

For a book to increment across component chapters, you must set them in the
book, not in a chapter(s). Select all component chapters in the book file,
right click, select Numbering, and verify that the numbering property for
the Paragraphs tab is set to increment.

Then Save and update the book.

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emho...@software-answers.comwrote:

 Hi!

 I am having a heck of a time trying to get my figure numbering to increase
 across files in a book. For example, in chapter 1, if my last graphic was
 Figure 1, then in chapter 2 when when I insert the caption for my first
 figure, I want it to be labeled Figure 2. I have set the Document Properties
 for Paragraph Numbering to Continue from Previous File in Book but that is
 not helping; in every chapter, the figure numbering is starting over again.

 The Autonumber Format is turned on for my Caption paragraph tag as:
 F:Figure n+.\sn

 I don't understand what I'm missing here. The autonumbering should allow
 you to have a cumulative figure number throughout the book, shouldn't it?

 Please help me if you can! Thanks!

 (I'm using FrameMaker 8 and the unstructured formatting.)


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Re: Long code samples in shaded table

[Steve Rickaby]

At 11:28 +0100 2/12/09, Klaus Daube wrote:

How about this idea:
- Convert all lines (paragraphs) of the code example to a table (one paragraph 
becoming one
row.
- Use a table format with no horizontal ruling between the rows.
- The automatic breakting between the rows should be no problem.

That sounds feasible: I will try it. It might be a little awkward getting the 
'line' spacing right, but it's worth a go.

-- 
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Re: Disappearing anchored frames: strange FrameMaker bug

[Steve Rickaby]

At 09:48 + 1/12/09, I wrote:

As another aside, I just noticed that FrameMaker doesn't increment autonumbers 
if the autonumbered paragraphs lie in disjoint text frames that are themselves 
within an anchored frame. This is true even if both frames belong to the same 
named flow. I wonder if this classifies as a bug, or whether it's intentional?

Klaus has pointed out that it's necessary to link the text frames that lie in 
the same anchored frame.

Duh...
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RE: Long code samples in shaded table

[Combs, Richard]

Steve Rickaby wrote: 
 
 At 11:28 +0100 2/12/09, Klaus Daube wrote:
 
 How about this idea:
 - Convert all lines (paragraphs) of the code example to a table (one
 paragraph becoming one
 row.
 - Use a table format with no horizontal ruling between the rows.
 - The automatic breakting between the rows should be no problem.
 
 That sounds feasible: I will try it. It might be a little awkward
getting
 the 'line' spacing right, but it's worth a go.

Not awkward -- only simple math. :-) You can do it with either the table
format's Default Cell Margins or the paragraph format's Table Cell
properties. 

In my template, I use a borderless table for code snippets, and its top
and bottom cell margins are 0 pts., so the spacing between rows is
controlled strictly at the pgf level. 

My Code pgf format is 9 pt with 12 pt line spacing, and there's no space
above or below the pgf. 12 - 9 = 3. So Cell Margins Top (on the Table
Cell properties tab) is set to 3.0 pt (and Bottom is 0 pt). Bingo. Code
text in two adjacent rows is spaced exactly the same as in two adjacent
lines, which is exactly the same as two adjacent pgfs. 

No calculator or trial and error was required. :-)


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RE: Long code samples in shaded table

[Combs, Richard]

I wrote:

 My Code pgf format is 9 pt with 12 pt line spacing, and there's no
space
 above or below the pgf. 12 - 9 = 3. So Cell Margins Top (on the Table
 Cell properties tab) is set to 3.0 pt (and Bottom is 0 pt). Bingo.
Code
 text in two adjacent rows is spaced exactly the same as in two
adjacent
 lines, which is exactly the same as two adjacent pgfs.

I should note that the Code pgf's Line Spacing is Fixed, which helps
ensure that exactly remains exactly -- although I can't imagine
superscript, inline graphics, etc., in a line of code. 


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RE: Long code samples in shaded table

[Steve Rickaby]

Richard... thanks for this. Yes, this sounds like the way to go... but tomorrow 
now, as it's 6:30 pm here.
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RE: Long code samples in shaded table

[Fred Ridder]

If you define a table format with the Top and Bottom settings for Default Cell 
Margins set to 0 pts, the table will have no affect whatsoever on the line 
spacing that you define for your code listing paragraph style. Piece of cake.

-Fred Ridder

 
 Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 15:08:37 +
 To: fr...@daube.ch; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 From: srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk
 Subject: Re: Long code samples in shaded table
 
 At 11:28 +0100 2/12/09, Klaus Daube wrote:
 
 How about this idea:
 - Convert all lines (paragraphs) of the code example to a table (one 
 paragraph becoming one
 row.
 - Use a table format with no horizontal ruling between the rows.
 - The automatic breakting between the rows should be no problem.
 
 That sounds feasible: I will try it. It might be a little awkward getting the 
 'line' spacing right, but it's worth a go.
  
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RE: Long code samples in shaded table

[Combs, Richard]

Fred Ridder wrote:
 
 If you define a table format with the Top and Bottom settings for
Default
 Cell Margins set to 0 pts, the table will have no affect whatsoever on
the
 line spacing that you define for your code listing paragraph style.
Piece
 of cake.

Not quite, Fred. If you do only that, FM puts the first line of the pgf
at the very top of the cell (assuming Cell Vertical Alignment is Top),
regardless of the line spacing -- just as it does at the top of a text
frame. And the last line of the pgf sits at the bottom of the cell
(unless a min. row height changes that). The Line Spacing setting
affects only lines of text within the same cell. Lines of text in
adjacent cells will have no space between them. 

You have to set the pgf's top cell margin to the same value as line
spacing minus font size (or you could do it with the bottom cell margin,
or split it between the two, but I prefer using space above to control
vertical spacing for almost everything). Or you can do it with the
table's default cell margins. 


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Text wrap in FrameMaker

[Brad Simmons]

Is it possible to do Text Wraps around pictures in FrameMaker, just like you 
can do in InDesign?

I fear the answer is no, but I thought I'd ask in case someone had an inside 
tip to show me.

Thanks,

Brad Simmons
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Ag-Leader Technology
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Re: Text wrap in FrameMaker

[Art Campbell]

I have no idea how ID does it, but if you select an image and right click,
you should see Runaround Properties.

May vary a bit from release to release, and since you didn't mention your
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On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Brad Simmons bsimm...@agleader.com wrote:

 Is it possible to do Text Wraps around pictures in FrameMaker, just like
 you can do in InDesign?

 I fear the answer is no, but I thought I'd ask in case someone had an
 inside tip to show me.

 Thanks,

 Brad Simmons
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Re: Text wrap in FrameMaker

[Scott White]

You can if you take the image out of the frame and is eps with a clipping path, 
fill set to none. You can see how this works by using one of the images from 
the clipart folderballoons  and set your runaround to runaround contour.
Been a long time since we did it here as a test, but it did work.
I have not tried it in 9 or 8. Just 7.X.



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 Is it possible to do Text Wraps around pictures in FrameMaker, just like you 
 can do in InDesign?
 
 I fear the answer is no, but I thought I'd ask in case someone had an 
 inside tip to show me.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Brad Simmons
 Technical Writer
 Ag-Leader Technology
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Re: Text wrap in FrameMaker

[Stuart Rogers]

Brad Simmons wrote:
 Is it possible to do Text Wraps around pictures in FrameMaker, just
 like you can do in InDesign?
 
 I fear the answer is no, but I thought I'd ask in case someone had
 an inside tip to show me.


See the topic, Running text around graphics in the on-line Help.

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RE: Text wrap in FrameMaker

[Matt Sullivan]

One difference between FM and ID is that FM will only wrap around one side
of a column. That means if you want text on both sides of a graphic, you
must be using a multicolumn layout 


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Is it possible to do Text Wraps around pictures in FrameMaker, just like you
can do in InDesign?

I fear the answer is no, but I thought I'd ask in case someone had an
inside tip to show me.

Thanks,

Brad Simmons
Technical Writer
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RE: Long code samples in shaded table

[Fred Ridder]

Oops. Right you are, Richard. My bad.

But I could have sworn that my approach worked for me in the past. I must be 
getting early symptoms of what's-his-name's disease...

-Fred Ridder

 
 Subject: RE: Long code samples in shaded table
 Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:09:30 -0700
 From: richard.co...@polycom.com
 To: docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 
 Fred Ridder wrote:
 
  If you define a table format with the Top and Bottom settings for
 Default
  Cell Margins set to 0 pts, the table will have no affect whatsoever on
 the
  line spacing that you define for your code listing paragraph style.
 Piece
  of cake.
 
 Not quite, Fred. If you do only that, FM puts the first line of the pgf
 at the very top of the cell (assuming Cell Vertical Alignment is Top),
 regardless of the line spacing -- just as it does at the top of a text
 frame. And the last line of the pgf sits at the bottom of the cell
 (unless a min. row height changes that). The Line Spacing setting
 affects only lines of text within the same cell. Lines of text in
 adjacent cells will have no space between them. 
 
 You have to set the pgf's top cell margin to the same value as line
 spacing minus font size (or you could do it with the bottom cell margin,
 or split it between the two, but I prefer using space above to control
 vertical spacing for almost everything). Or you can do it with the
 table's default cell margins. 
 
 
 Richard G. Combs
 Senior Technical Writer
 Polycom, Inc.
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autonumbering in framemaker tables

[Surbhi Singhal]

Hello Framers!

Good day..

I have a long pin list stretching to 200 pin names, which i plan to describe
in tabular format.
Is there a way to insert autonumbering in a column of the table, so that i
donot have to type in the serial number manually.

Regards
Surbhi
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Upgrading FM from 7.1 to 9

[Shmuel Wolfson]

There are much bigger differences than that. Mif2Go is more more techy, 
much harder to set up, but requires much less (if not zero) cleanup 
after the conversion.

If you go with Mif2Go, I recommend hiring someone to help you set if up 
and train you to make minor modifications.

Just my 2 micrograms of silver.

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> Does Mif2Go support that, or will it?
>
> Thanks!
> Lea
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>> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:13 PM
>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Cc: Lynn Durell
>> Subject: Re: Upgrading FM from 7.1 to 9
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:59:43 +, Lynn Durell 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Thanks very much indeed for the responses.
>>>
>>> I think we'll need to wait to ensure everyone is upgrading to the same
>>> version then!
>>>   
>> >From what I've seen, here, on HATT, and on the TCS list itself,
>> waiting is a very good idea IMHO.  Maybe waiting until Frame 10.0.  ;-)
>> Look at all the posts from users, and you'll see what I mean.
>>
>> 
>>> Does ePublisher work in the same way as WebWorks, i.e. within the FM
>>>   
> menu?
>   
>>> If we did go down the Tech Comm Suite route instead of ePublisher, can we
>>> produce CHM files using RoboHelp? None of us here have used RoboHelp
>>> before - would it be a steep learning curve to do this?
>>>   
>> You may also want to consider the third option, which has by far
>> the lowest cost, and we think the best performance, Mif2Go.  Many
>> former WWP users tell us migration is pretty easy; for example,
>> Mif2Go can use the same TopicAlias markers that WWP used. YMMV,
>> of course.  You can see for yourself how it works for you by
>> downloading the free unlimited demo version at:
>> http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm
>>
>> Mif2Go produces a dozen output formats, including CHM and its
>> own Open Source cross-platform cross-browser OmniHelp.  It also
>> can convert UNstructured Frame to DocBook and DITA, allowing
>> you the freedom to migrate to an XML editor if necessary.  Many
>> very large enterprises are currently using it to do just that.
>> And it's only $295 per seat, with steep quantity discounts, a
>> significant factor in today's problematic economy.
>>
>> Finally, if anyone here is unemployed or underemployed, an
>> academic (student, faculty, or staff), or a developer of FOSS
>> (Free Open Source Software), Mif2Go is *free* for you.  Just
>> send your name and email address to , with
>> subject "Mif2Go", and we'll send a password and download
>> instructions for the full registered version.  No proof is
>> needed; we use the Honor System here.
>>
>> HTH!
>>
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Upgrading FM from 7.1 to 9

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:48:30 -0800, "Lea Rush"  
wrote:

>I did a comparison of RH vs. Mif2Go at the beginning of the year, and the
>biggest difference I found was that RH supported Natural Language search.
>Does Mif2Go support that, or will it?

If I understand you correctly, you are talking about WebHelp
search, right?  So you are comparing RH WebHelp with OmniHelp.
(For other Help formats, like HTML Help, search is built in so 
that it is the same regardless of the tool used.)

One difference is that OmniHelp is Open Source (LGPL), and
RH WebHelp is proprietary.  That means that with OmniHelp,
you can add any search engine you please, by modifying the
JavaScript.  It's not trivial, but it's certainly possible.

For OmniHelp, our goal is to make it very fast to respond,
because people using Help systems want to find the info they
need quickly and get on with the job they are doing.  So we
do all the search indexing at authoring time, and provide a
JavaScript array, ready to use, so that search even of large
docs is instantaneous.  That approach pretty much limits you
to keyword search (including regex), which we feel is a very
reasonable price to pay for the high speed.  We also feel that
an index, properly done, is superior to any form of search.

So we're not inclined to invest the time needed to implement
"Natural Language" search in OmniHelp ourselves.  It would
slow down searches, especially on large doc sets, dramatically, 
for a rather questionable benefit.  However, anyone who really 
wants it can certainly add it as an option, and redistribute
the result legally, which may not be possible under less 
permissive licenses.

And, of course, there are quite a few other differences that
we consider much more significant... but that's your call.  ;-)

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

Disappearing anchored frames: strange FrameMaker bug

[Klaus Daube]

On 1 Dec 2009 at 9:48, Steve Rickaby wrote:

> Yes, but it still shouldn't have disappeared. In this case the following
> few pages have a stack of tables and both anchored and floating frames.

I once had the problem describe here: http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker33.html
I guess the same may happen to anchored frames.

FWIW
Klaus Daube
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Long code samples in shaded table

[Klaus Daube]

On 1 Dec 2009 at 9:48, Steve Rickaby wrote:

> As an aside, I think a special torment in Hell should be reserved for
> software textbook authors who insist on including code samples that are
> longer than a single page. If they fall in the text flow there's no
> problem, but for some books we set these in shaded call-outs, in this case
> with figure titles, and the only vaguely adequate way I know how to do
> this in Frame is to use single-column tables. Messing with rows/page
> breaks during final pagination is a real pain, and all the cutting and
> pasting it involves increases the chance that something will get lost. If
> anyone knows of a more elegant way I'd be interested. This is, probably,
> completely unrelated to the anchored frame issue, except that it means
> that a book has a *lot* of tables and anchored frames.

How about this idea:
- Convert all lines (paragraphs) of the code example to a table (one paragraph 
becoming one 
row.
- Use a table format with no horizontal ruling between the rows.
- The the automatic breakting between the rows should be no problem.

FWIW
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cross book links in PDF portfolios or combined books

[Fred Wersan]

I was experimenting a bit yesterday with PDF Portfolios and combined 
books. Either method seems like a good way to give readers a central 
starting point for a doc set. However I noticed that the xref links 
between books, which work fine between individual book PDFs, did not 
work within the portfolios or combined book file. (In fact, if the 
portfolio is in the same directory as individual books, acrobat jumps 
out to the individual book - which is what you would expect, I guess.)

Has anyone used portfolios or combined books, and if so, how have you 
handled inter-book links? (I use Timesavers to make my inter-book links 
work.)

Fred
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Auto-numbering figures across files

[Art Campbell]

Heidi,
You mention that you've set the numbering properties, but you don't say
where you've set them.

For a book to increment across component chapters, you must set them in the
book, not in a chapter(s). Select all component chapters in the book file,
right click, select Numbering, and verify that the numbering property for
the Paragraphs tab is set to increment.

Then Save and update the book.

Art

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On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Emhoff, Heidi
wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I am having a heck of a time trying to get my figure numbering to increase
> across files in a book. For example, in chapter 1, if my last graphic was
> Figure 1, then in chapter 2 when when I insert the caption for my first
> figure, I want it to be labeled Figure 2. I have set the Document Properties
> for Paragraph Numbering to "Continue from Previous File in Book" but that is
> not helping; in every chapter, the figure numbering is starting over again.
>
> The Autonumber Format is turned on for my Caption paragraph tag as:
> F:Figure .\sn
>
> I don't understand what I'm missing here. The autonumbering should allow
> you to have a cumulative figure number throughout the book, shouldn't it?
>
> Please help me if you can! Thanks!
>
> (I'm using FrameMaker 8 and the unstructured formatting.)
>
>
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> Documentation Specialist
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Auto-numbering figures across files

[Emhoff, Heidi]

Ahhh!!! Beautiful!! Thanks, Dave (and everyone else who responded). I didn't 
know I had to update the book. I knew I was missing something simple. It would 
have been nice if the FrameMaker help file/manual would have included a note or 
something reminding us to update the on the page that talks about setting the 
paragraph number in the properties. It just never occurred to me that I would 
have to do that as the page numbers update right away when you set the 
properties for them...

Anyway, thanks!!

Always,

Heidi Emhoff

-Original Message-
From: dave.reynolds at tait.co.nz [mailto:dave.reyno...@tait.co.nz] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:51 PM
To: Emhoff, Heidi
Subject: Re: Auto-numbering figures across files

Hi Heidi

You have to update the book for book-wide numbering to work (i.e. be 
updated).

cheers

Dave

Emhoff, Heidi wrote, on 2/12/2009 10:06 a.m.:
> Hi!
>
> I am having a heck of a time trying to get my figure numbering to increase 
> across files in a book. For example, in chapter 1, if my last graphic was 
> Figure 1, then in chapter 2 when when I insert the caption for my first 
> figure, I want it to be labeled Figure 2. I have set the Document Properties 
> for Paragraph Numbering to "Continue from Previous File in Book" but that is 
> not helping; in every chapter, the figure numbering is starting over again.
>
> The Autonumber Format is turned on for my Caption paragraph tag as: F:Figure 
> .\sn
>
> I don't understand what I'm missing here. The autonumbering should allow you 
> to have a cumulative figure number throughout the book, shouldn't it?
>
> Please help me if you can! Thanks!
>
> (I'm using FrameMaker 8 and the unstructured formatting.)
>
>
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> Documentation Specialist
> Software Answers, Inc.
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Long code samples in shaded table

[Steve Rickaby]

At 11:28 +0100 2/12/09, Klaus Daube wrote:

>How about this idea:
>- Convert all lines (paragraphs) of the code example to a table (one paragraph 
>becoming one
>row.
>- Use a table format with no horizontal ruling between the rows.
>- The automatic breakting between the rows should be no problem.

That sounds feasible: I will try it. It might be a little awkward getting the 
'line' spacing right, but it's worth a go.

-- 
Steve

Disappearing anchored frames: strange FrameMaker bug

[Steve Rickaby]

At 09:48 + 1/12/09, I wrote:

>As another aside, I just noticed that FrameMaker doesn't increment autonumbers 
>if the autonumbered paragraphs lie in disjoint text frames that are themselves 
>within an anchored frame. This is true even if both frames belong to the same 
>named flow. I wonder if this classifies as a bug, or whether it's intentional?

Klaus has pointed out that it's necessary to link the text frames that lie in 
the same anchored frame.

Duh...
-- 
Steve

Text wrap in FrameMaker

[Scott White]

You can if you take the image out of the frame and is eps with a clipping path, 
fill set to none. You can see how this works by using one of the images from 
the clipart folder>balloons  and set your runaround to runaround contour.
Been a long time since we did it here as a test, but it did work.
I have not tried it in 9 or 8. Just 7.X.



Scott White
Media Production & EBC Manager
Implementation Coordinator
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-- next part --

On Dec 2, 2009, at 2:06 PM, Brad Simmons wrote:

> Is it possible to do Text Wraps around pictures in FrameMaker, just like you 
> can do in InDesign?
> 
> I fear the answer is "no", but I thought I'd ask in case someone had an 
> inside tip to show me.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brad Simmons
> Technical Writer
> Ag-Leader Technology
> Ames, Iowa
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Text wrap in FrameMaker

[Stuart Rogers]

Brad Simmons wrote:
> Is it possible to do Text Wraps around pictures in FrameMaker, just
> like you can do in InDesign?
> 
> I fear the answer is "no", but I thought I'd ask in case someone had
> an inside tip to show me.


See the topic, "Running text around graphics" in the on-line Help.

HTH,

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Text wrap in FrameMaker

[Matt Sullivan]

One difference between FM and ID is that FM will only wrap around one side
of a column. That means if you want text on both sides of a graphic, you
must be using a multicolumn layout 


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Is it possible to do Text Wraps around pictures in FrameMaker, just like you
can do in InDesign?

I fear the answer is "no", but I thought I'd ask in case someone had an
inside tip to show me.

Thanks,

Brad Simmons
Technical Writer
Ag-Leader Technology
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Long code samples in shaded table

[Fred Ridder]

Oops. Right you are, Richard. My bad.

But I could have sworn that my approach worked for me in the past. I must be 
getting early symptoms of what's-his-name's disease...

-Fred Ridder


> Subject: RE: Long code samples in shaded table
> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:09:30 -0700
> From: richard.combs at Polycom.com
> To: docudoc at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> Fred Ridder wrote:
> 
> > If you define a table format with the Top and Bottom settings for
> Default
> > Cell Margins set to 0 pts, the table will have no affect whatsoever on
> the
> > line spacing that you define for your code listing paragraph style.
> Piece
> > of cake.
> 
> Not quite, Fred. If you do only that, FM puts the first line of the pgf
> at the very top of the cell (assuming Cell Vertical Alignment is Top),
> regardless of the line spacing -- just as it does at the top of a text
> frame. And the last line of the pgf sits at the bottom of the cell
> (unless a min. row height changes that). The Line Spacing setting
> affects only lines of text within the same cell. Lines of text in
> adjacent cells will have no space between them. 
> 
> You have to set the pgf's top cell margin to the same value as line
> spacing minus font size (or you could do it with the bottom cell margin,
> or split it between the two, but I prefer using space above to control
> vertical spacing for almost everything). Or you can do it with the
> table's default cell margins. 
> 
> 
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