Change color of interface
Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on all suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try adjusting the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier to read. I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was Adobe thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate look. Lou Martindale Technical Writer/Web Master/Marketing Design PdMA Corporation - www.pdma.com lou at pdma.com 813-621-6463 ext. 126 This message is intended for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by unauthorized individuals or entities is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you.
Change color of interface
Lou Martindale wrote: > Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on all > suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try adjusting > the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier to read. > I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was Adobe > thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate look. I'm sure it relates to the fact that Adobe flagship products (which generate some 75% of their revenue if I remember the numbers from an Adobe annual report) are applications for generating and manipulating graphics and images, where you don't want the color of GUI elements to affect the perception of the colors of the graphics being worked on. GUI neutrality is necessary for those kinds of tools; and since it doesn't really matter for text-oriented apps, consistency won out. -Fred Ridder
ANN: Framescript to disambiguate "List Paragraph" style
Hi group When people author content in Word, they often use the infamous (but popular) "Bullets" and "Numbering" buttons to create bulleted and numbered lists, respectively. This will put the style named "List Paragraph" on the text. When you open the Word file in FrameMaker, you will see that the bullets and numbering has been preserved. The FrameMaker paratag is still "List Paragraph", but different autonumbering schemes have been used: ?\b\t for the bulleted lists ?.\t or .\t for the numbered lists So Frame used an override to preserve the bullets and numbering. This is okay as long as you keep the override, but it's a problem: ?If you want you maintain and update this content in FrameMaker ?If you want to convert this content to DITA In these cases, you may want to remove the overrides, but you will also need to disambiguate the "List Paragraph" style as follows: ?IF autonumbering = \b\t, THEN apply the paratag (or ) ?IF autonumbering = .\t OR = .\t, THEN apply the paratag Rick Quatro has now developed a Framescript which can do this. For more information and ordering: http://frameautomation.com/about/ Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu
Change color of interface
Be that as it may, Adobe's desire for conformity should not deprive users of the ability to set their own color schemes. Just a little matter of user control that the Adobe mandarins of design seem unwilling to surrender. That said, it would be a welcome addition to the entire Windows interface to allow users to assign different color schemes to different apps. I would like to be able to distinguish my FM windows from my Visio or Excel or what have you by color instead of all apps being presented in a tuberculous ward gray. So yes, IMHO the CS splash screens are now uniformly pathetically ugly. Will White Monrovia CA > > Lou Martindale wrote: > > > >> Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on >> all >> suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try >> adjusting >> the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier >> to read. >> I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was >> Adobe >> thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate >> look. > > > I'm sure it relates to the fact that Adobe flagship products (which > generate some 75% of their revenue if I remember the numbers from an > Adobe annual report) are applications for generating and > manipulating graphics and images, where you don't want the color of > GUI elements to affect the perception of the colors of the graphics > being worked on. GUI neutrality is necessary for those kinds of > tools; and since it doesn't really matter for text-oriented apps, > consistency won out. > > -Fred Ridder > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as whitefamily at mac.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/whitefamily%40mac.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. +++ Frink: Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, don't touch it, but I predict that within 100 years, computers will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them. Apu: Could it be used for dating? +++
adding a v9.0 license to a 7.1 team
Hi all, I manage a group of distributed writers. All of us are on version 7.1. Our newest writer has submitted a request to have FM installed on her system and is being told her only option is version 9.0. I am concerned about us being able to exchange documents because I already have a writer on 8.0 and the only way we can exchange docs is by saving them as .mif. My other concern is helping her learn FM. Since I have never seen v9.0, I'm not sure how different the interface is. I would appreciate your thoughts and advice. Thanks. Ellen Ellen Lidington Documentation Lead Ingenix 950 Winter Street, Suite 3800, Waltham, MA 02451 Direct Line: 781-419-8414; Fax: 781-895-9951 www.ingenix.com This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately.
adding a v9.0 license to a 7.1 team
A thread on this just ran its course on the Adobe FM forum: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2696392#2696392 So long as you don't mind everyone saving as MIF (and saving as the correct version; there are three now), and don't mind changing Unicode characters back and forth, and the people on 8 and 9 don't use any features that didn't exist in 7, and everyone plays be the rules all the time and doesn't make any mistakes, you should be OK. Seriously, it's probably past time to consider getting everyone on the same platform. Otherwise you're going to be spending a fair amount of time doing mickey-mouse tweaking that you should be able to ignore. But mechanically, it'll work. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Lidington, Ellen L < ellen_lidington at ingenix.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I manage a group of distributed writers. All of us are on version 7.1. > Our newest writer has submitted a request to have FM installed on her > system and is being told her only option is version 9.0. I am concerned > about us being able to exchange documents because I already have a > writer on 8.0 and the only way we can exchange docs is by saving them as > .mif. > > My other concern is helping her learn FM. Since I have never seen v9.0, > I'm not sure how different the interface is. > > I would appreciate your thoughts and advice. > > Thanks. > > Ellen > > > > > > > > Ellen Lidington > Documentation Lead > > Ingenix > > 950 Winter Street, Suite 3800, Waltham, MA 02451 > > Direct Line: 781-419-8414; Fax: 781-895-9951 > > www.ingenix.com > > > > > This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or > proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity > to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended > recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the > sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Garbage characters in FM9
I haven't touched the maker.ini in months and I noticed recently that some of my files insist that the fonts Times New Roman and Adobe Minion Pro exist within the book files - which is ridiculous as I only EVER use 3 fonts (Arial, Courier New and Symbol). I hope I haven't got garbage in places that I've never noticed. I'll have to do some very careful checking. Thanks for the heads up. (This is where human proofreading would come in handy but it feels like nobody but me ever seems to read what I write :- at least not within the company.) Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 E-mail: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of LW White Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:53 PM To: FrameUsersDigest Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9 Mike, Is the problem limited to Minion Pro font? By any chance, have you edited your maker.ini file lately and if so, did you open it in anything other than Notepad? I learned through frustrating experience that editing maker.ini in say, WordPad, can cause garbage characters to start appearing in place of certain letters. Best, Leigh --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: i...@mikewickham.com To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; rshuttleworth at avbasesystems.com Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:24:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9 > I'm finding that sometimes FM inserts garbage characters when inserting > text. For example, adding text in a Body para that uses Adobe Minion Pro, > I type o and get op; I type s and get so. The Backspace key deletes the > following character instead of the previous one, and the left-arrow key > moves right. _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.craig at ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Change color of interface
Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on all suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try adjusting the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier to read. I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was Adobe thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate look. Lou Martindale Technical Writer/Web Master/Marketing Design PdMA Corporation - www.pdma.com l...@pdma.com 813-621-6463 ext. 126 This message is intended for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by unauthorized individuals or entities is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Change color of interface
Lou Martindale wrote: > Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on all > suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try adjusting > the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier to read. > I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was Adobe > thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate look. I'm sure it relates to the fact that Adobe flagship products (which generate some 75% of their revenue if I remember the numbers from an Adobe annual report) are applications for generating and manipulating graphics and images, where you don't want the color of GUI elements to affect the perception of the colors of the graphics being worked on. GUI neutrality is necessary for those kinds of tools; and since it doesn't really matter for text-oriented apps, consistency won out. -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
ANN: Framescript to disambiguate "List Paragraph" style
Hi group When people author content in Word, they often use the infamous (but popular) "Bullets" and "Numbering" buttons to create bulleted and numbered lists, respectively. This will put the style named "List Paragraph" on the text. When you open the Word file in FrameMaker, you will see that the bullets and numbering has been preserved. The FrameMaker paratag is still "List Paragraph", but different autonumbering schemes have been used: •\b\t for the bulleted lists •.\t or .\t for the numbered lists So Frame used an override to preserve the bullets and numbering. This is okay as long as you keep the override, but it's a problem: •If you want you maintain and update this content in FrameMaker •If you want to convert this content to DITA In these cases, you may want to remove the overrides, but you will also need to disambiguate the "List Paragraph" style as follows: •IF autonumbering = \b\t, THEN apply the paratag (or ) •IF autonumbering = .\t OR = .\t, THEN apply the paratag Rick Quatro has now developed a Framescript which can do this. For more information and ordering: http://frameautomation.com/about/ Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Change color of interface
Be that as it may, Adobe's desire for conformity should not deprive users of the ability to set their own color schemes. Just a little matter of user control that the Adobe mandarins of design seem unwilling to surrender. That said, it would be a welcome addition to the entire Windows interface to allow users to assign different color schemes to different apps. I would like to be able to distinguish my FM windows from my Visio or Excel or what have you by color instead of all apps being presented in a tuberculous ward gray. So yes, IMHO the CS splash screens are now uniformly pathetically ugly. Will White Monrovia CA Lou Martindale wrote: Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on all suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try adjusting the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier to read. I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was Adobe thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate look. I'm sure it relates to the fact that Adobe flagship products (which generate some 75% of their revenue if I remember the numbers from an Adobe annual report) are applications for generating and manipulating graphics and images, where you don't want the color of GUI elements to affect the perception of the colors of the graphics being worked on. GUI neutrality is necessary for those kinds of tools; and since it doesn't really matter for text-oriented apps, consistency won out. -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as whitefam...@mac.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/whitefamily%40mac.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. +++ Frink: Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, don't touch it, but I predict that within 100 years, computers will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them. Apu: Could it be used for dating? +++ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
adding a v9.0 license to a 7.1 team
Hi all, I manage a group of distributed writers. All of us are on version 7.1. Our newest writer has submitted a request to have FM installed on her system and is being told her only option is version 9.0. I am concerned about us being able to exchange documents because I already have a writer on 8.0 and the only way we can exchange docs is by saving them as .mif. My other concern is helping her learn FM. Since I have never seen v9.0, I'm not sure how different the interface is. I would appreciate your thoughts and advice. Thanks. Ellen Ellen Lidington Documentation Lead Ingenix 950 Winter Street, Suite 3800, Waltham, MA 02451 Direct Line: 781-419-8414; Fax: 781-895-9951 www.ingenix.com This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: adding a v9.0 license to a 7.1 team
A thread on this just ran its course on the Adobe FM forum: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2696392#2696392 So long as you don't mind everyone saving as MIF (and saving as the correct version; there are three now), and don't mind changing Unicode characters back and forth, and the people on 8 and 9 don't use any features that didn't exist in 7, and everyone plays be the rules all the time and doesn't make any mistakes, you should be OK. Seriously, it's probably past time to consider getting everyone on the same platform. Otherwise you're going to be spending a fair amount of time doing mickey-mouse tweaking that you should be able to ignore. But mechanically, it'll work. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Lidington, Ellen L < ellen_liding...@ingenix.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I manage a group of distributed writers. All of us are on version 7.1. > Our newest writer has submitted a request to have FM installed on her > system and is being told her only option is version 9.0. I am concerned > about us being able to exchange documents because I already have a > writer on 8.0 and the only way we can exchange docs is by saving them as > .mif. > > My other concern is helping her learn FM. Since I have never seen v9.0, > I'm not sure how different the interface is. > > I would appreciate your thoughts and advice. > > Thanks. > > Ellen > > > > > > > > Ellen Lidington > Documentation Lead > > Ingenix > > 950 Winter Street, Suite 3800, Waltham, MA 02451 > > Direct Line: 781-419-8414; Fax: 781-895-9951 > > www.ingenix.com > > > > > This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or > proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity > to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended > recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the > sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Garbage characters in FM9
I haven't touched the maker.ini in months and I noticed recently that some of my files insist that the fonts Times New Roman and Adobe Minion Pro exist within the book files - which is ridiculous as I only EVER use 3 fonts (Arial, Courier New and Symbol). I hope I haven't got garbage in places that I've never noticed. I'll have to do some very careful checking. Thanks for the heads up. (This is where human proofreading would come in handy but it feels like nobody but me ever seems to read what I write :- at least not within the company.) Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of LW White Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:53 PM To: FrameUsersDigest Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9 Mike, Is the problem limited to Minion Pro font? By any chance, have you edited your maker.ini file lately and if so, did you open it in anything other than Notepad? I learned through frustrating experience that editing maker.ini in say, WordPad, can cause garbage characters to start appearing in place of certain letters. Best, Leigh --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: i...@mikewickham.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:24:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9 > I'm finding that sometimes FM inserts garbage characters when inserting > text. For example, adding text in a Body para that uses Adobe Minion Pro, > I type o and get op; I type s and get so. The Backspace key deletes the > following character instead of the previous one, and the left-arrow key > moves right. _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_3 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.