hypertext command "message openfile" but keep first file open

[Shlomo Perets]

Yves,

You wrote:

>I'm trying to do the following:
>
>Insert a message client hypertext command in file A which opens file B. Both
>files will be PDF documents (yes, I use PDF for presentations instead of 
>PowerPoint).
>
>I'm currently using the following command:
>message openfile C:/temp/fileB.pdf
>
>The command works but the problem is that file A closes when file B is opened.
>
>Does anyone know how to keep file A open?


Nothing you can do about this in FrameMaker (unless an add-on is being 
used, see http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF10.html for more info/examples).

There is a local viewing preference in Acrobat/Reader that controls whether 
a linked PDF opens in a new window: Edit > Preferences > General -- turn 
off "Open cross-document links in same window". Preferences apply to the 
Acrobat/Reader copy where the PDF is viewed, but not to the PDF file itself.

In Acrobat, you can modify the individual link property so that it opens 
the target file in a new window (this link property is available within 
Acrobat starting with version 6).


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants

Re: Sheeply docked at Linux FrameMaker

[Alan T Litchfield]

On 25/05/2010, at 1:56 PM, Hedley Finger wrote:



I was just checking Adobe for updates to FM8 when I discovered that  
FM7.2 and FM8 are available for Unix (yep, you read that right).  I  
thought all the Unix versions had been ditched a while ago (overcome  
by nostalgic tears for FM4 on HP-UX).


Is this just Solaris or Oraclis or whatever, or can it run on  
Ubuntu?  I have an ancient CD somewhere that has a trial Linux  
version at FM5.5.6.  So does Linux rule OK or is it just Unix rules  
KO?


Hedley

--




Solaris only IIRC. Will not run on Linux of any flavour.

The 5.5.6 FM version had a die-date (can't remember what it was) -  
unless you had access to a binary editor of course. It needed Redhat  
(again IIRC).


Alan
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Sheeply docked at Linux FrameMaker

[Hedley Finger]

I was just checking Adobe for updates to FM8 when I discovered that 
FM7.2 and FM8 are available for Unix (yep, you read that right).  I 
thought all the Unix versions had been ditched a while ago (overcome by 
nostalgic tears for FM4 on HP-UX).


Is this just Solaris or Oraclis or whatever, or can it run on Ubuntu?  I 
have an ancient CD somewhere that has a trial Linux version at FM5.5.6.  
So does Linux rule OK or is it just Unix rules KO?


Hedley

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Tel: +61 3 9809 1229   Fax: (call phone first)
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Can the spelling checker be trusted?

[Mike Wickham]

> Starting from a file at the beginning of the book, did Spell Check for 
> entire book. Did not find error.
>

Once FM has checked a paragraph, it marks it so that time will not be wasted 
checking it again, unless the paragraph itself changes. So if the word is 
included in a paragraph that has already been checked and passed, FM will 
not find and flag the word. You can reset this behavior by going to Edit> 
Spelling Checker and clicking on the Dictionaries button. There you will 
find a checkbox for "Mark All Paragraphs for Rechecking." This clears the 
"already checked spelling" flags in the document. The downside is that the 
spelling checker will then refind any words that you checked before, but 
passed without actually adding them to your personal dictionary-- and you 
will be presented with them again.

Another thing to check is the paragraph format holding the word. Go to 
Paragraph Designer> Fonts tab> Language setting. If it is set to "None," FM 
will not check that paragraph for spelling, no matter what you do. Set it to 
a language and FM will use the appropriate language dictionary to check it.

Mike Wickham

Re: Can the spelling checker be trusted?

[Jenny Greenleaf]

Great ideas, thank you. Sadly

I did do the option to reset all paragraphs. I even made sure to tear the pod 
away from the side so the sub-pod dialog might work.

The paragraph is set to US English. There are no overrides on it. 

The word can't be in a dictionary since the spelling checker correctly finds it 
when the cursor is placed in the same paragraph with the offending word.

Back to proofing

Jenny


On May 24, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Mike Wickham wrote:

>> Starting from a file at the beginning of the book, did Spell Check for 
>> entire book. Did not find error.
>> 
> 
> Once FM has checked a paragraph, it marks it so that time will not be wasted 
> checking it again, unless the paragraph itself changes. So if the word is 
> included in a paragraph that has already been checked and passed, FM will not 
> find and flag the word. You can reset this behavior by going to Edit> 
> Spelling Checker and clicking on the Dictionaries button. There you will find 
> a checkbox for "Mark All Paragraphs for Rechecking." This clears the "already 
> checked spelling" flags in the document. The downside is that the spelling 
> checker will then refind any words that you checked before, but passed 
> without actually adding them to your personal dictionary-- and you will be 
> presented with them again.
> 
> Another thing to check is the paragraph format holding the word. Go to 
> Paragraph Designer> Fonts tab> Language setting. If it is set to "None," FM 
> will not check that paragraph for spelling, no matter what you do. Set it to 
> a language and FM will use the appropriate language dictionary to check it.
> 
> Mike Wickham
> 
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Can the spelling checker be trusted?

[Jenny Greenleaf]

Great ideas, thank you. Sadly

I did do the option to reset all paragraphs. I even made sure to tear the pod 
away from the side so the sub-pod dialog might work.

The paragraph is set to US English. There are no overrides on it. 

The word can't be in a dictionary since the spelling checker correctly finds it 
when the cursor is placed in the same paragraph with the offending word.

Back to proofing

Jenny


On May 24, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Mike Wickham wrote:

>> Starting from a file at the beginning of the book, did Spell Check for 
>> entire book. Did not find error.
>> 
> 
> Once FM has checked a paragraph, it marks it so that time will not be wasted 
> checking it again, unless the paragraph itself changes. So if the word is 
> included in a paragraph that has already been checked and passed, FM will not 
> find and flag the word. You can reset this behavior by going to Edit> 
> Spelling Checker and clicking on the Dictionaries button. There you will find 
> a checkbox for "Mark All Paragraphs for Rechecking." This clears the "already 
> checked spelling" flags in the document. The downside is that the spelling 
> checker will then refind any words that you checked before, but passed 
> without actually adding them to your personal dictionary-- and you will be 
> presented with them again.
> 
> Another thing to check is the paragraph format holding the word. Go to 
> Paragraph Designer> Fonts tab> Language setting. If it is set to "None," FM 
> will not check that paragraph for spelling, no matter what you do. Set it to 
> a language and FM will use the appropriate language dictionary to check it.
> 
> Mike Wickham
> 
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hypertext command "message openfile" but keep first file open

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

I'm trying to do the following:

Insert a message client hypertext command in file A which opens file B. Both
files will be PDF documents (yes, I use PDF for presentations instead of
PowerPoint).

I'm currently using the following command:

message openfile C:/temp/fileB.pdf

The command works but the problem is that file A closes when file B is
opened.

Does anyone know how to keep file A open?

Thanks



-- 
Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu

Re: Can the spelling checker be trusted?

[Mike Wickham]

Starting from a file at the beginning of the book, did Spell Check for 
entire book. Did not find error.




Once FM has checked a paragraph, it marks it so that time will not be wasted 
checking it again, unless the paragraph itself changes. So if the word is 
included in a paragraph that has already been checked and passed, FM will 
not find and flag the word. You can reset this behavior by going to Edit> 
Spelling Checker and clicking on the Dictionaries button. There you will 
find a checkbox for "Mark All Paragraphs for Rechecking." This clears the 
"already checked spelling" flags in the document. The downside is that the 
spelling checker will then refind any words that you checked before, but 
passed without actually adding them to your personal dictionary-- and you 
will be presented with them again.


Another thing to check is the paragraph format holding the word. Go to 
Paragraph Designer> Fonts tab> Language setting. If it is set to "None," FM 
will not check that paragraph for spelling, no matter what you do. Set it to 
a language and FM will use the appropriate language dictionary to check it.


Mike Wickham


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Re: Can the spelling checker be trusted?

[Jenny Greenleaf]

It does! It says it's name.no wait, this is Monday. Drat.

I tried putting the cursor in various places around the miscreant word. It 
finds it only if it is in the same paragraph. The paragraph is only four lines 
long, but breaks across two pages. The cursor must be before the word, but not 
after. It doesn't matter which page.

Frame's spelling checker does not appear to work backwards. 

There's also an option under "Dictionaries" to "Mark All Paragraphs for 
Rechecking."  It's an odd dialog box, full of rather unrelated radio button 
options. Anyway, I tried the "Mark All Paragraphs for Rechecking"  option, but 
it didn't make any difference.

Closing Frame and restarting it didn't help either, though it does make my 
scroll bars work again for a time. 

Frame seems rather unbelievably buggy sometimes considering what I paid for it. 

Jenny Greenleaf
Portland, OR


On May 24, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote:

> Didn't happen to have white stripes and go by the name of Freddie did it?
> 
> Could explain explain the resurgence ;)
> 
> Alan
> 
> On 25/05/2010, at 10:35 AM, Scott Prentice wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jenny...
>> 
>> This brings up my memory of "the evil dot." Back in 1995 or 6(?) (FM 4 or 5) 
>> I ran into a file that exhibited similar strange behavior. I could search 
>> (forward) for a word that I knew was in the file, and it would never find 
>> it. But, if I searched backwards it found the word without trouble. Spell 
>> checking had similar issues. I found that if the cursor was after a certain 
>> point in the file, the word could be found. After a bit of thrashing about, 
>> I discovered that the culprit was a period (the evil dot). If I deleted this 
>> period everything worked fine.
>> 
>> What was happening is that the period was like a black hole that caused any 
>> processing to return to the beginning of the file. I could copy this 
>> character into any other file and the same thing would happen .. but if I 
>> saved the file to MIF, there was nothing apparently special about it .. just 
>> a simple period.
>> 
>> I saved the period off in a file for later use (don't ask) .. but somewhere 
>> along the way it was lost (maybe it found its way to your file).
>> 
>> I suppose it's possible that you have a similar situation .. see if you also 
>> can't search for this misspelling .. and see how far away from the word you 
>> can move the cursor and have it still found. Try searching backwards. Who 
>> knows.
>> 
>> I've not seen this behavior again in FM, so I don't think it's a serious 
>> problem, but maybe it's making a resurgence. Or maybe this is a totally 
>> different problem.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> ...scott
>> 
>> Scott Prentice
>> Leximation, Inc.
>> www.leximation.com
>> +1.415.485.1892
>> 
>> 
> 
> --
> Alan T Litchfield
> AlphaByte
> PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140
> New Zealand
> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice
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Can the spelling checker be trusted?

[Jenny Greenleaf]

It does! It says it's name.no wait, this is Monday. Drat.

I tried putting the cursor in various places around the miscreant word. It 
finds it only if it is in the same paragraph. The paragraph is only four lines 
long, but breaks across two pages. The cursor must be before the word, but not 
after. It doesn't matter which page.

Frame's spelling checker does not appear to work backwards. 

There's also an option under "Dictionaries" to "Mark All Paragraphs for 
Rechecking."  It's an odd dialog box, full of rather unrelated radio button 
options. Anyway, I tried the "Mark All Paragraphs for Rechecking"  option, but 
it didn't make any difference.

Closing Frame and restarting it didn't help either, though it does make my 
scroll bars work again for a time. 

Frame seems rather unbelievably buggy sometimes considering what I paid for it. 

Jenny Greenleaf
Portland, OR


On May 24, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote:

> Didn't happen to have white stripes and go by the name of Freddie did it?
> 
> Could explain explain the resurgence ;)
> 
> Alan
> 
> On 25/05/2010, at 10:35 AM, Scott Prentice wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jenny...
>> 
>> This brings up my memory of "the evil dot." Back in 1995 or 6(?) (FM 4 or 5) 
>> I ran into a file that exhibited similar strange behavior. I could search 
>> (forward) for a word that I knew was in the file, and it would never find 
>> it. But, if I searched backwards it found the word without trouble. Spell 
>> checking had similar issues. I found that if the cursor was after a certain 
>> point in the file, the word could be found. After a bit of thrashing about, 
>> I discovered that the culprit was a period (the evil dot). If I deleted this 
>> period everything worked fine.
>> 
>> What was happening is that the period was like a black hole that caused any 
>> processing to return to the beginning of the file. I could copy this 
>> character into any other file and the same thing would happen .. but if I 
>> saved the file to MIF, there was nothing apparently special about it .. just 
>> a simple period.
>> 
>> I saved the period off in a file for later use (don't ask) .. but somewhere 
>> along the way it was lost (maybe it found its way to your file).
>> 
>> I suppose it's possible that you have a similar situation .. see if you also 
>> can't search for this misspelling .. and see how far away from the word you 
>> can move the cursor and have it still found. Try searching backwards. Who 
>> knows.
>> 
>> I've not seen this behavior again in FM, so I don't think it's a serious 
>> problem, but maybe it's making a resurgence. Or maybe this is a totally 
>> different problem.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> ...scott
>> 
>> Scott Prentice
>> Leximation, Inc.
>> www.leximation.com
>> +1.415.485.1892
>> 
>> 
> 
> --
> Alan T Litchfield
> AlphaByte
> PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140
> New Zealand
> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice
> 

Re: Can the spelling checker be trusted?

[Alan T Litchfield]

Didn't happen to have white stripes and go by the name of Freddie did  
it?


Could explain explain the resurgence ;)

Alan

On 25/05/2010, at 10:35 AM, Scott Prentice wrote:


Hi Jenny...

This brings up my memory of "the evil dot." Back in 1995 or 6(?) (FM  
4 or 5) I ran into a file that exhibited similar strange behavior. I  
could search (forward) for a word that I knew was in the file, and  
it would never find it. But, if I searched backwards it found the  
word without trouble. Spell checking had similar issues. I found  
that if the cursor was after a certain point in the file, the word  
could be found. After a bit of thrashing about, I discovered that  
the culprit was a period (the evil dot). If I deleted this period  
everything worked fine.


What was happening is that the period was like a black hole that  
caused any processing to return to the beginning of the file. I  
could copy this character into any other file and the same thing  
would happen .. but if I saved the file to MIF, there was nothing  
apparently special about it .. just a simple period.


I saved the period off in a file for later use (don't ask) .. but  
somewhere along the way it was lost (maybe it found its way to your  
file).


I suppose it's possible that you have a similar situation .. see if  
you also can't search for this misspelling .. and see how far away  
from the word you can move the cursor and have it still found. Try  
searching backwards. Who knows.


I've not seen this behavior again in FM, so I don't think it's a  
serious problem, but maybe it's making a resurgence. Or maybe this  
is a totally different problem.


Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892




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PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140
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RE: SAving frame files with numbers at the end

[Lou Martindale]

I had this problem earlier this spring. I believe I was using Frame 6.0 at
the time. I found that renaming the file by just removing the number suffix
I could open the file, but had missing graphics. After long, agonizing trial
and error by my IT guy, we found out it was not corrupted graphics, it was
XP Sp3. We tried the hot fix and it didn't help. Finally I was upgraded to
Frame 9. I was able to import my missing graphics without any problems and
no more weird file names.

The down side was my copy of Frame was so old I couldn't upgrade and I had
to purchase a new copy at a pretty significant amount. I was pretty unhappy
about that as I was doing just fine with Frame 6.

Hope this helps.
Lou

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Subject: SAving frame files with numbers at the end

Has anyone had the problem where Frame saves the frame files with suffixes
like blah.fm.5a3? What's the cause and solution?

Thank you,


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Re: Can the spelling checker be trusted?

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Jenny...

This brings up my memory of "the evil dot." Back in 1995 or 6(?) (FM 4 
or 5) I ran into a file that exhibited similar strange behavior. I could 
search (forward) for a word that I knew was in the file, and it would 
never find it. But, if I searched backwards it found the word without 
trouble. Spell checking had similar issues. I found that if the cursor 
was after a certain point in the file, the word could be found. After a 
bit of thrashing about, I discovered that the culprit was a period (the 
evil dot). If I deleted this period everything worked fine.


What was happening is that the period was like a black hole that caused 
any processing to return to the beginning of the file. I could copy this 
character into any other file and the same thing would happen .. but if 
I saved the file to MIF, there was nothing apparently special about it 
.. just a simple period.


I saved the period off in a file for later use (don't ask) .. but 
somewhere along the way it was lost (maybe it found its way to your file).


I suppose it's possible that you have a similar situation .. see if you 
also can't search for this misspelling .. and see how far away from the 
word you can move the cursor and have it still found. Try searching 
backwards. Who knows.


I've not seen this behavior again in FM, so I don't think it's a serious 
problem, but maybe it's making a resurgence. Or maybe this is a totally 
different problem.


Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892




Jenny Greenleaf wrote:

FM 9, fully patched. Running in a VM under Fusion on a MacBook Pro.

Yikes!

I was preparing a book for PDF production when I noticed a spelling error: include was 
spelled "imclude".  I knew I had spell-checked the book numerous times and 
didn't understand why this was still there.

I tried a few things:

Starting from a file at the beginning of the book, did Spell Check for entire 
book. Did not find error.

Starting from first page of the chapter that contained the error, did Spell 
Check for the document. Did not find the error.

Positioned the cursor in the same sentence as the error and did Spell Check.  Found the error. 

I have been caught off-guard a couple of times with typos in the past few months. As a result, I've been especially diligent about running the spelling checker. I am not sure what to think about this, but my confidence in the spelling checker is declining rapidly. 

I am not thrilled about checking every page in a book. 


Any ideas what would cause this?  The word in question is in the first line of 
a page and the paragraph has an anchored frame. Other than that, it's just a 
word in a sentence.

Jenny Greenleaf
Portland, OR


  

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Can the spelling checker be trusted?

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Jenny...

This brings up my memory of "the evil dot." Back in 1995 or 6(?) (FM 4 
or 5) I ran into a file that exhibited similar strange behavior. I could 
search (forward) for a word that I knew was in the file, and it would 
never find it. But, if I searched backwards it found the word without 
trouble. Spell checking had similar issues. I found that if the cursor 
was after a certain point in the file, the word could be found. After a 
bit of thrashing about, I discovered that the culprit was a period (the 
evil dot). If I deleted this period everything worked fine.

What was happening is that the period was like a black hole that caused 
any processing to return to the beginning of the file. I could copy this 
character into any other file and the same thing would happen .. but if 
I saved the file to MIF, there was nothing apparently special about it 
.. just a simple period.

I saved the period off in a file for later use (don't ask) .. but 
somewhere along the way it was lost (maybe it found its way to your file).

I suppose it's possible that you have a similar situation .. see if you 
also can't search for this misspelling .. and see how far away from the 
word you can move the cursor and have it still found. Try searching 
backwards. Who knows.

I've not seen this behavior again in FM, so I don't think it's a serious 
problem, but maybe it's making a resurgence. Or maybe this is a totally 
different problem.

Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892




Jenny Greenleaf wrote:
> FM 9, fully patched. Running in a VM under Fusion on a MacBook Pro.
>
> Yikes!
>
> I was preparing a book for PDF production when I noticed a spelling error: 
> include was spelled "imclude".  I knew I had spell-checked the book numerous 
> times and didn't understand why this was still there.
>
> I tried a few things:
>
> Starting from a file at the beginning of the book, did Spell Check for entire 
> book. Did not find error.
>
> Starting from first page of the chapter that contained the error, did Spell 
> Check for the document. Did not find the error.
>
> Positioned the cursor in the same sentence as the error and did Spell Check.  
> Found the error. 
>
> I have been caught off-guard a couple of times with typos in the past few 
> months. As a result, I've been especially diligent about running the spelling 
> checker. I am not sure what to think about this, but my confidence in the 
> spelling checker is declining rapidly. 
>
> I am not thrilled about checking every page in a book. 
>
> Any ideas what would cause this?  The word in question is in the first line 
> of a page and the paragraph has an anchored frame. Other than that, it's just 
> a word in a sentence.
>
> Jenny Greenleaf
> Portland, OR
>
>
>   

RE: Can the spelling checker be trusted?

[Owen, Clint]

We are still on FM 7.0, so this might not be applicable. We are also
still on Win XP

The behavior of spell checker described below sounds a lot like
something that used to happen when I was using spell check and
find-and-replace over and over on a very large document with lots of
instances of the search objects. After working intensely for several
hours, FM would suddenly stop finding things that I knew were there,
such as words misspelled certain ways or just text that needed to be
replaced. It was as if some buffer had become filled up and it could no
longer hold the found items, so they were ignored. If I closed all of
the files and restarted FM everything went back to normal.

HTH,

Clint


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Greenleaf
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:06 PM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Can the spelling checker be trusted?

FM 9, fully patched. Running in a VM under Fusion on a MacBook Pro.

Yikes!

I was preparing a book for PDF production when I noticed a spelling
error: include was spelled "imclude".  I knew I had spell-checked the
book numerous times and didn't understand why this was still there.

I tried a few things:

Starting from a file at the beginning of the book, did Spell Check for
entire book. Did not find error.

Starting from first page of the chapter that contained the error, did
Spell Check for the document. Did not find the error.

Positioned the cursor in the same sentence as the error and did Spell
Check.  Found the error. 

I have been caught off-guard a couple of times with typos in the past
few months. As a result, I've been especially diligent about running the
spelling checker. I am not sure what to think about this, but my
confidence in the spelling checker is declining rapidly. 

I am not thrilled about checking every page in a book. 

Any ideas what would cause this?  The word in question is in the first
line of a page and the paragraph has an anchored frame. Other than that,
it's just a word in a sentence.

Jenny Greenleaf
Portland, OR


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Can the spelling checker be trusted?

[Owen, Clint]

We are still on FM 7.0, so this might not be applicable. We are also
still on Win XP

The behavior of spell checker described below sounds a lot like
something that used to happen when I was using spell check and
find-and-replace over and over on a very large document with lots of
instances of the search objects. After working intensely for several
hours, FM would suddenly stop finding things that I knew were there,
such as words misspelled certain ways or just text that needed to be
replaced. It was as if some buffer had become filled up and it could no
longer hold the found items, so they were ignored. If I closed all of
the files and restarted FM everything went back to normal.

HTH,

Clint


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425 743 8674 | Fax: +1 425 743 8113

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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jenny
Greenleaf
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:06 PM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Can the spelling checker be trusted?

FM 9, fully patched. Running in a VM under Fusion on a MacBook Pro.

Yikes!

I was preparing a book for PDF production when I noticed a spelling
error: include was spelled "imclude".  I knew I had spell-checked the
book numerous times and didn't understand why this was still there.

I tried a few things:

Starting from a file at the beginning of the book, did Spell Check for
entire book. Did not find error.

Starting from first page of the chapter that contained the error, did
Spell Check for the document. Did not find the error.

Positioned the cursor in the same sentence as the error and did Spell
Check.  Found the error. 

I have been caught off-guard a couple of times with typos in the past
few months. As a result, I've been especially diligent about running the
spelling checker. I am not sure what to think about this, but my
confidence in the spelling checker is declining rapidly. 

I am not thrilled about checking every page in a book. 

Any ideas what would cause this?  The word in question is in the first
line of a page and the paragraph has an anchored frame. Other than that,
it's just a word in a sentence.

Jenny Greenleaf
Portland, OR


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Can the spelling checker be trusted?

[Jenny Greenleaf]

FM 9, fully patched. Running in a VM under Fusion on a MacBook Pro.

Yikes!

I was preparing a book for PDF production when I noticed a spelling error: 
include was spelled "imclude".  I knew I had spell-checked the book numerous 
times and didn't understand why this was still there.

I tried a few things:

Starting from a file at the beginning of the book, did Spell Check for entire 
book. Did not find error.

Starting from first page of the chapter that contained the error, did Spell 
Check for the document. Did not find the error.

Positioned the cursor in the same sentence as the error and did Spell Check.  
Found the error. 

I have been caught off-guard a couple of times with typos in the past few 
months. As a result, I've been especially diligent about running the spelling 
checker. I am not sure what to think about this, but my confidence in the 
spelling checker is declining rapidly. 

I am not thrilled about checking every page in a book. 

Any ideas what would cause this?  The word in question is in the first line of 
a page and the paragraph has an anchored frame. Other than that, it's just a 
word in a sentence.

Jenny Greenleaf
Portland, OR


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Can the spelling checker be trusted?

[Jenny Greenleaf]

FM 9, fully patched. Running in a VM under Fusion on a MacBook Pro.

Yikes!

I was preparing a book for PDF production when I noticed a spelling error: 
include was spelled "imclude".  I knew I had spell-checked the book numerous 
times and didn't understand why this was still there.

I tried a few things:

Starting from a file at the beginning of the book, did Spell Check for entire 
book. Did not find error.

Starting from first page of the chapter that contained the error, did Spell 
Check for the document. Did not find the error.

Positioned the cursor in the same sentence as the error and did Spell Check.  
Found the error. 

I have been caught off-guard a couple of times with typos in the past few 
months. As a result, I've been especially diligent about running the spelling 
checker. I am not sure what to think about this, but my confidence in the 
spelling checker is declining rapidly. 

I am not thrilled about checking every page in a book. 

Any ideas what would cause this?  The word in question is in the first line of 
a page and the paragraph has an anchored frame. Other than that, it's just a 
word in a sentence.

Jenny Greenleaf
Portland, OR

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[Lief Erickson]

Hi Mary--

You can find all of the keyboard shortcuts for FM9 here:

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/Using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7862b-7ffd.html

Although some things have changed a bit, you can still use keyboard shortcuts 
for a lot of your work in FM9.

-Lief


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mary Sheahan
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 1:55 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com
Subject: FM9 - closing pods&panels

Hi folks--

Is there a keyboard method to close pods&panels??To return them to the doc?? 

Count me in the long list of people with mixed feelings about FM9.
I'm a long-time FM user who dropped offlist a few years ago; I'm back now that 
we finally got budgeted for an upgrade...big change.  I love some of the new 
features.? I'm upset about the increasing reliance on the mouse -- it's much 
easier on my hands to use keyboard commands than mouse.? And admittedly I'm in 
my first day using it but... geez, did they *really* eliminate that may of the 
escape sequences!?  

Thanks all,
Mary


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[Lief Erickson]

Hi Mary--

You can find all of the keyboard shortcuts for FM9 here:

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Although some things have changed a bit, you can still use keyboard shortcuts 
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Subject: FM9 - closing pods&panels

Hi folks--

Is there a keyboard method to close pods&panels? To return them to the doc?  

Count me in the long list of people with mixed feelings about FM9.
I'm a long-time FM user who dropped offlist a few years ago; I'm back now that 
we finally got budgeted for an upgrade...big change.  I love some of the new 
features.  I'm upset about the increasing reliance on the mouse -- it's much 
easier on my hands to use keyboard commands than mouse.  And admittedly I'm in 
my first day using it but... geez, did they *really* eliminate that may of the 
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[Mary Sheahan]

Hi folks--

Is there a keyboard method to close pods&panels? To return them to the doc?  

Count me in the long list of people with mixed feelings about FM9.
I'm a long-time FM user who dropped offlist a few years ago; I'm back now that 
we finally got budgeted for an upgrade...big change.  I love some of the new 
features.  I'm upset about the increasing reliance on the mouse -- it's much 
easier on my hands to use keyboard commands than mouse.  And admittedly I'm in 
my first day using it but... geez, did they *really* eliminate that may of the 
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Thanks all,
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[Mary Sheahan]

Hi folks--

Is there a keyboard method to close pods&panels??To return them to the doc?? 

Count me in the long list of people with mixed feelings about FM9.
I'm a long-time FM user who dropped offlist a few years ago; I'm back now that 
we finally got budgeted for an upgrade...big change.  I love some of the new 
features.? I'm upset about the increasing reliance on the mouse -- it's much 
easier on my hands to use keyboard commands than mouse.? And admittedly I'm in 
my first day using it but... geez, did they *really* eliminate that may of the 
escape sequences!?  

Thanks all,
Mary

Re: hypertext command "message openfile" but keep first file open

[Shlomo Perets]

Yves,

You wrote:


I'm trying to do the following:

Insert a message client hypertext command in file A which opens file B. Both
files will be PDF documents (yes, I use PDF for presentations instead of 
PowerPoint).


I'm currently using the following command:
message openfile C:/temp/fileB.pdf

The command works but the problem is that file A closes when file B is opened.

Does anyone know how to keep file A open?



Nothing you can do about this in FrameMaker (unless an add-on is being 
used, see http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF10.html for more info/examples).


There is a local viewing preference in Acrobat/Reader that controls whether 
a linked PDF opens in a new window: Edit > Preferences > General -- turn 
off "Open cross-document links in same window". Preferences apply to the 
Acrobat/Reader copy where the PDF is viewed, but not to the PDF file itself.


In Acrobat, you can modify the individual link property so that it opens 
the target file in a new window (this link property is available within 
Acrobat starting with version 6).



Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants



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SAving frame files with numbers at the end

[Orly Zimmerman]

HI Gillian, 
I had this problem with files that were created with older versions of visio, 
that were *embedded* in my fm file. I had this particular problem especially 
when I tried changing the conditional text settings. In one of the individual 
files, I had isolated the problematic figure and then had to delete it in order 
to work with the file. I found an older copy of the figure in my backup files 
somewhere. 
For these files that you mention with the funny hex endings - if you open that 
file in fm you'll see that one or more of you figures is shown as a grey box. 
That may give a clue as to the corrupted figure.

As far as the books go, I also had trouble with saving books as PDF when 
changing conditional text settings. I tried the windows hotfix, but was still 
having other problems (I'm running XP/SP2- TCS 1.0). In the end, IT just 
reformatted my disk - so everything so far is ok - haven't done major 
book-building yet, then I'll know for sure if all is ok.
Orly.

Orly Zimmerman
Technical Writer
CPBU Documentation
Marvell Israel - Petach Tikva



--- Original Message ---
From: Flato, Gillian
Date: 22.05.2010 00:58
> Has anyone had the problem where Frame saves the frame files with suffixes 
> like blah.fm.5a3? What's the cause and solution?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Gillian Flato
> Technical Writer (Software)
> nanometrics
> 1550 Buckeye Dr.
> Milpitas, CA. 95035
> *408.545.6316
> 7  408.232.5911
> * gflato at nanometrics.com

SAving frame files with numbers at the end

[Lou Martindale]

I had this problem earlier this spring. I believe I was using Frame 6.0 at
the time. I found that renaming the file by just removing the number suffix
I could open the file, but had missing graphics. After long, agonizing trial
and error by my IT guy, we found out it was not corrupted graphics, it was
XP Sp3. We tried the hot fix and it didn't help. Finally I was upgraded to
Frame 9. I was able to import my missing graphics without any problems and
no more weird file names.

The down side was my copy of Frame was so old I couldn't upgrade and I had
to purchase a new copy at a pretty significant amount. I was pretty unhappy
about that as I was doing just fine with Frame 6.

Hope this helps.
Lou

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Subject: SAving frame files with numbers at the end

Has anyone had the problem where Frame saves the frame files with suffixes
like blah.fm.5a3? What's the cause and solution?

Thank you,


Gillian Flato
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nanometrics
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hypertext command "message openfile" but keep first file open

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

I'm trying to do the following:

Insert a message client hypertext command in file A which opens file B. Both
files will be PDF documents (yes, I use PDF for presentations instead of
PowerPoint).

I'm currently using the following command:

message openfile C:/temp/fileB.pdf

The command works but the problem is that file A closes when file B is
opened.

Does anyone know how to keep file A open?

Thanks



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Frame 9 Spell Check Anomalies

[Spectrum Writing]

I, too, have noticed these "sliced" up suggestions in FM9 as the default
suggestions. It's a very frequent annoyance with the FM9 spell checking
functions and I have never encountered this before until FM9. I wouldn't
mind a little insight to it myself.

TVB

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Subject: Frame 9 Spell Check Anomalies 

I'm spell checking a relatively big chapter with lots of typos. And I'm 
noticing that the spell checker in my new installation of Frame 9 is 
annoyingly suggesting nonsensical sequences of letters as the first, 
default suggestion. For example, in my doc the word "functions" is 
misspelled as "funtions" -- and the spell checker's default suggestion 
is "fu nt ions."  These sliced up suggestion are, as often as not, my 
default correction suggestions for typos. The correct suggestion is 
usually next in the list, but that require the dreaded extra click to 
select it and move on to the next misspelled word. I've never seen this 
kind of funky spell checking behavior before. Have any of you?

Could it be related to my importing of my old saved dictionary from Frame 8?

Thanks,
Tony

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RE: Frame 9 Spell Check Anomalies

[Spectrum Writing]

I, too, have noticed these "sliced" up suggestions in FM9 as the default
suggestions. It's a very frequent annoyance with the FM9 spell checking
functions and I have never encountered this before until FM9. I wouldn't
mind a little insight to it myself.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
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Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 6:09 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame 9 Spell Check Anomalies 

I'm spell checking a relatively big chapter with lots of typos. And I'm 
noticing that the spell checker in my new installation of Frame 9 is 
annoyingly suggesting nonsensical sequences of letters as the first, 
default suggestion. For example, in my doc the word "functions" is 
misspelled as "funtions" -- and the spell checker's default suggestion 
is "fu nt ions."  These sliced up suggestion are, as often as not, my 
default correction suggestions for typos. The correct suggestion is 
usually next in the list, but that require the dreaded extra click to 
select it and move on to the next misspelled word. I've never seen this 
kind of funky spell checking behavior before. Have any of you?

Could it be related to my importing of my old saved dictionary from Frame 8?

Thanks,
Tony

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RE: SAving frame files with numbers at the end

[Orly Zimmerman]

HI Gillian, 
I had this problem with files that were created with older versions of visio, 
that were *embedded* in my fm file. I had this particular problem especially 
when I tried changing the conditional text settings. In one of the individual 
files, I had isolated the problematic figure and then had to delete it in order 
to work with the file. I found an older copy of the figure in my backup files 
somewhere. 
For these files that you mention with the funny hex endings - if you open that 
file in fm you'll see that one or more of you figures is shown as a grey box. 
That may give a clue as to the corrupted figure.

As far as the books go, I also had trouble with saving books as PDF when 
changing conditional text settings. I tried the windows hotfix, but was still 
having other problems (I'm running XP/SP2- TCS 1.0). In the end, IT just 
reformatted my disk - so everything so far is ok - haven't done major 
book-building yet, then I'll know for sure if all is ok.
Orly.

Orly Zimmerman
Technical Writer
CPBU Documentation
Marvell Israel - Petach Tikva



--- Original Message ---
From: Flato, Gillian
Date: 22.05.2010 00:58
> Has anyone had the problem where Frame saves the frame files with suffixes 
> like blah.fm.5a3? What's the cause and solution?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Gillian Flato
> Technical Writer (Software)
> nanometrics
> 1550 Buckeye Dr.
> Milpitas, CA. 95035
> *408.545.6316
> 7  408.232.5911
> * gfl...@nanometrics.com
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