I suspect the answer is 'no', but...

[Tori Muir]

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[Tori Muir]

And further to this point: production artist has confirmed she was not
using the character tag -- David's correct, if the tag is used, all
works as it should. 
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Tori Muir wrote:

  
Hmmm... we're using Frame 9. I know the template has a superscript
character tag in it, but the production artist might not be using it
correctly -- good thing to check! 
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David Spreadbury wrote:
  

  

  Tori,
You don't mention what version of Frame you are using, but I tried it
in Frame 7.2 and it worked just fine.
  
You need to create a Character Format for superscript. In the Character
Designer leave everything As Is except check the Superscript check-box.
  
In Frame, apply the character format to the portion of your product
that is to be superscripted. Create a cross-reference to that,
typically, heading, and voila, the cross-ref looks just like the
heading.
  
I create a title containing My Product1, and superscripted the 1.
  
The cross-reference was to the title content
\'\' which gives me, in Blue "My Product1"
(with the 1 superscripted).
  
--- On Mon, 3/14/11, Tori Muir 
wrote:
  
From: Tori Muir 
Subject: I suspect the answer is 'no', but...
To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com"

Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 6:21 PM

Client has a product whose name
includes a superscript (pause for 2-minute hate session -- why do
clients think it's so clever to do that? Creates baskets of hassle!)
When we create cross-references to text which includes that product
name, it's not superscripted in the cross-ref text.

I don't suppose there's any way to get it to be superscripted in the
cross-ref text?

If (as I suspect) there is no way to do so, the only thing I can think
of doing is as a very last step before PDF, create a 'disposable' copy
of the book, run thru it for all cross-refs containing that product
name and convert them to text. Then generate PDF and manually add links
to those cross-refs in the PDF. Is there a better way?

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I suspect the answer is 'no', but...

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Hmmm... we're using Frame 9. I know the template has a superscript
character tag in it, but the production artist might not be using it
correctly -- good thing to check! 
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David Spreadbury wrote:

  

  
Tori,
You don't mention what version of Frame you are using, but I tried it
in Frame 7.2 and it worked just fine.

You need to create a Character Format for superscript. In the Character
Designer leave everything As Is except check the Superscript check-box.

In Frame, apply the character format to the portion of your product
that is to be superscripted. Create a cross-reference to that,
typically, heading, and voila, the cross-ref looks just like the
heading.

I create a title containing My Product1, and superscripted the 1.

The cross-reference was to the title content
\'\' which gives me, in Blue "My Product1"
(with the 1 superscripted).

--- On Mon, 3/14/11, Tori Muir 
wrote:

From: Tori Muir 
Subject: I suspect the answer is 'no', but...
To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 6:21 PM
  
  Client has a product whose name
includes a superscript (pause for 2-minute hate session -- why do
clients think it's so clever to do that? Creates baskets of hassle!)
When we create cross-references to text which includes that product
name, it's not superscripted in the cross-ref text.
  
I don't suppose there's any way to get it to be superscripted in the
cross-ref text?
  
If (as I suspect) there is no way to do so, the only thing I can think
of doing is as a very last step before PDF, create a 'disposable' copy
of the book, run thru it for all cross-refs containing that product
name and convert them to text. Then generate PDF and manually add links
to those cross-refs in the PDF. Is there a better way?
  
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Re: I suspect the answer is 'no', but...

[David Spreadbury]

Tori,
You don't mention what version of Frame you are using, but I tried it in Frame 
7.2 and it worked just fine.

You need to create a Character Format for superscript. In the Character 
Designer leave everything As Is except check the Superscript check-box.

In Frame, apply the character format to the portion of your product that is to 
be superscripted. Create a cross-reference to that, typically, heading, and 
voila, the cross-ref looks just like the heading.

I create a title containing My Product1, and superscripted the 1.

The cross-reference was to the title content \'\' which gives 
me, in Blue "My Product1" (with the 1 superscripted).

--- On Mon, 3/14/11, Tori Muir  wrote:

From: Tori Muir 
Subject: I suspect the answer is 'no', but...
To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 6:21 PM

Client has a product whose name includes a superscript (pause for 2-minute hate 
session -- why do clients think it's so clever to do that? Creates baskets of 
hassle!) When we create cross-references to text which includes that product 
name, it's not superscripted in the cross-ref text.

I don't suppose there's any way to get it to be superscripted in the cross-ref 
text?

If (as I suspect) there is no way to do so, the only thing I can think of doing 
is as a very last step before PDF, create a 'disposable' copy of the book, run 
thru it for all cross-refs containing that product name and convert them to 
text. Then generate PDF and manually add links to those cross-refs in the PDF. 
Is there a better way?

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I suspect the answer is 'no', but...

[David Spreadbury]

Tori,
You don't mention what version of Frame you are using, but I tried it in Frame 
7.2 and it worked just fine.

You need to create a Character Format for superscript. In the Character 
Designer leave everything As Is except check the Superscript check-box.

In Frame, apply the character format to the portion of your product that is to 
be superscripted. Create a cross-reference to that, typically, heading, and 
voila, the cross-ref looks just like the heading.

I create a title containing My Product1, and superscripted the 1.

The cross-reference was to the title content \'\' which gives 
me, in Blue "My Product1" (with the 1 superscripted).

--- On Mon, 3/14/11, Tori Muir  wrote:

From: Tori Muir 
Subject: I suspect the answer is 'no', but...
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 6:21 PM

Client has a product whose name includes a superscript (pause for 2-minute hate 
session -- why do clients think it's so clever to do that? Creates baskets of 
hassle!) When we create cross-references to text which includes that product 
name, it's not superscripted in the cross-ref text.

I don't suppose there's any way to get it to be superscripted in the cross-ref 
text?

If (as I suspect) there is no way to do so, the only thing I can think of doing 
is as a very last step before PDF, create a 'disposable' copy of the book, run 
thru it for all cross-refs containing that product name and convert them to 
text. Then generate PDF and manually add links to those cross-refs in the PDF. 
Is there a better way?

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I suspect the answer is 'no', but...

[Tori Muir]

Client has a product whose name includes a superscript (pause for 
2-minute hate session -- why do clients think it's so clever to do that? 
Creates baskets of hassle!) When we create cross-references to text 
which includes that product name, it's not superscripted in the 
cross-ref text.

I don't suppose there's any way to get it to be superscripted in the 
cross-ref text?

If (as I suspect) there is no way to do so, the only thing I can think 
of doing is as a very last step before PDF, create a 'disposable' copy 
of the book, run thru it for all cross-refs containing that product name 
and convert them to text. Then generate PDF and manually add links to 
those cross-refs in the PDF. Is there a better way?

-- 
Tori Muir
tmuir at spot-on-creative.com ? 650.430.8674
www.spot-on-creative.com 

I suspect the answer is 'no', but...

[Tori Muir]

Client has a product whose name includes a superscript (pause for 
2-minute hate session -- why do clients think it's so clever to do that? 
Creates baskets of hassle!) When we create cross-references to text 
which includes that product name, it's not superscripted in the 
cross-ref text.


I don't suppose there's any way to get it to be superscripted in the 
cross-ref text?


If (as I suspect) there is no way to do so, the only thing I can think 
of doing is as a very last step before PDF, create a 'disposable' copy 
of the book, run thru it for all cross-refs containing that product name 
and convert them to text. Then generate PDF and manually add links to 
those cross-refs in the PDF. Is there a better way?


--
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Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

[Anthony Davey]

Hi Yves,

It?s only a workaround, but it works!

Many thanks,
Ant

From: Yves Barbion [mailto:yves.barb...@gmail.com]
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Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

Hi Ant

Try Print to File instead of Save as PDF.

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On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Anthony Davey mailto:Anthony.Davey at rssb.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi All,

I?m trialling TCS3 and I?ve got a book/document in Frame with a group of 15  
landscape pages in it ? out of 214 in the whole book.  When I Save (the book or 
the file) as PDF from Frame using Distiller X all the pages are in portrait 
format, chopping off the edges of the table that appears on the landscape pages.

I?ve tried resetting the Auto-Rotate pages setting in Distiller from 
?Collectively? to ?Off? and ?Individually?, however, neither alternative makes 
any difference to the end result ? all pages are portrait.  Can anybody suggest 
what settings I need to be changing, and where?

Many thanks,
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Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Ant

Try Print to File instead of Save as PDF.

Cheers


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On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Anthony Davey wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I?m trialling TCS3 and I?ve got a book/document in Frame with a group of 15
>  landscape pages in it ? out of 214 in the whole book.  When I Save (the
> book or the file) as PDF from Frame using Distiller X all the pages are in
> portrait format, chopping off the edges of the table that appears on the
> landscape pages.
>
>
>
> I?ve tried resetting the Auto-Rotate pages setting in Distiller from
> ?Collectively? to ?Off? and ?Individually?, however, neither alternative
> makes any difference to the end result ? all pages are portrait.  Can
> anybody suggest what settings I need to be changing, and where?
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Ant
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RE: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

[Anthony Davey]

Hi Yves,

It’s only a workaround, but it works!

Many thanks,
Ant

From: Yves Barbion [mailto:yves.barb...@gmail.com]
Sent: 14 March 2011 13:51
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Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

Hi Ant

Try Print to File instead of Save as PDF.

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Hi All,

I’m trialling TCS3 and I’ve got a book/document in Frame with a group of 15  
landscape pages in it – out of 214 in the whole book.  When I Save (the book or 
the file) as PDF from Frame using Distiller X all the pages are in portrait 
format, chopping off the edges of the table that appears on the landscape pages.

I’ve tried resetting the Auto-Rotate pages setting in Distiller from 
‘Collectively’ to ‘Off’ and ‘Individually’, however, neither alternative makes 
any difference to the end result – all pages are portrait.  Can anybody suggest 
what settings I need to be changing, and where?

Many thanks,
Ant

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Image rendering onscreen

[Mike Wickham]

> I like the idea of having the Insets pod open. Unless I'm missing
> something, it looks like the only way to do that is to have it open
> previously, correct? The View/Pods menu item is grayed out at the FM
> splash screen.
>
>
If the pod is open when you close FrameMaker, it will be open when you 
reload FrameMaker.

Mike Wickham

Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

[Anthony Davey]

Hi All,

I'm trialling TCS3 and I've got a book/document in Frame with a group of 15  
landscape pages in it - out of 214 in the whole book.  When I Save (the book or 
the file) as PDF from Frame using Distiller X all the pages are in portrait 
format, chopping off the edges of the table that appears on the landscape pages.

I've tried resetting the Auto-Rotate pages setting in Distiller from 
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any difference to the end result - all pages are portrait.  Can anybody suggest 
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OT: Acrobat 9.4.2 does save/export all graphic formats

[Klaus Daube]

Dear all,

Obviously i had my glass of wine to early! See 
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/798630 for the whole 
story of my re-re-re-istallation of Acrobat.
* The installation of 9.0 from the TCS2 DVD was OK
* After update to 9.2 my tests displayed correct results for all desired 
tasks
* After the update to 9.4.2 i obviously did not test thoroughly enough 
(hence the glass of whine).
System: Windows 7 x64

Later it turned out that 9.4.2 does not save/export graphic formats:
* jpg, jp2 does not save anything, and no error message gives a hint
* doc, rtf save issue error message "Save As failed to process this 
document. No file has been 
created"
* png and tif do not save anything, and no error message gives a hint
* pdf (all flavours), eps and ps are exported correctly
* html (all flavours) export a html file and the image as jpg correctly
* xml table and xml export correctly
* txt (both flavours) are exported correctly

Hence the only method i can get a picture is to export as HTML and through away 
the HTML... or: 
enlarge the picture as much as possible on the screen and take a screen shot.

What is missing in this installation?
During my re-re-re-installtions some Windows updates may have happened.

Any help available in this issue?
Klaus Daube


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Methods to redo book

[Steve Rickaby]

At 19:37 -0700 13/3/11, Les Smalley wrote:

>aside: FM understands more of the path data than just the current ('dot') or 
>parent ('dot-dot') directory... it stores references as relative paths using a 
>unix-like dotted notation unless it crosses a root folder of a drive, then FM 
>switches to an absolute reference (drive & path) notation.  So you can go up 
>four levels and then down a new path  (../../../../dir1/dir2) and FM happily 
>follows along.

Thanks for this clarification, Les... I didn't know that. I'd seen the '.' and 
'..' in MIFs, and assumed that that was all there was. Duh.

-- 
Steve

Re: Image rendering onscreen

[Mike Wickham]

I like the idea of having the Insets pod open. Unless I'm missing
something, it looks like the only way to do that is to have it open
previously, correct? The View/Pods menu item is grayed out at the FM
splash screen.


If the pod is open when you close FrameMaker, it will be open when you 
reload FrameMaker.


Mike Wickham


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Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Ant

Try Print to File instead of Save as PDF.

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On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Anthony Davey wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I’m trialling TCS3 and I’ve got a book/document in Frame with a group of 15
>  landscape pages in it – out of 214 in the whole book.  When I Save (the
> book or the file) as PDF from Frame using Distiller X all the pages are in
> portrait format, chopping off the edges of the table that appears on the
> landscape pages.
>
>
>
> I’ve tried resetting the Auto-Rotate pages setting in Distiller from
> ‘Collectively’ to ‘Off’ and ‘Individually’, however, neither alternative
> makes any difference to the end result – all pages are portrait.  Can
> anybody suggest what settings I need to be changing, and where?
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Ant
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Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in Acrobat X

[Anthony Davey]

Hi All,

I'm trialling TCS3 and I've got a book/document in Frame with a group of 15  
landscape pages in it - out of 214 in the whole book.  When I Save (the book or 
the file) as PDF from Frame using Distiller X all the pages are in portrait 
format, chopping off the edges of the table that appears on the landscape pages.

I've tried resetting the Auto-Rotate pages setting in Distiller from 
'Collectively' to 'Off' and 'Individually', however, neither alternative makes 
any difference to the end result - all pages are portrait.  Can anybody suggest 
what settings I need to be changing, and where?

Many thanks,
Ant

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RE: Image rendering onscreen

[Tim Pann]

Excellent information, thank you all.

I like the idea of having the Insets pod open. Unless I'm missing
something, it looks like the only way to do that is to have it open
previously, correct? The View/Pods menu item is grayed out at the FM
splash screen.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
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Subject: Re: Image rendering onscreen


 > Is there a way that I can reduce the render time for my graphics?

Another thing that affects rendering speed is if you have the Insets pod

open in your workspace when you open the document. If open, FM (9 and 
presumably 10) loads all the graphics when the file is opened-- so that 
it can populate that pod. (I think I remember the explanation Adobe gave

me.) But then you can scroll quickly through the document without pauses

to load each graphic. If the Insets pod is closed when the document is 
opened, FM loads each graphic only when you scroll through the document 
and encounter them. So one setting gives fast scrolling. The other gives

fast opening of files.

Anyway, it does sound like FM is misbehaving for you, but perhaps 
changing the Insets pod situation will be a workaround for you.


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Re: Methods to redo book

[Steve Rickaby]

At 19:37 -0700 13/3/11, Les Smalley wrote:

>aside: FM understands more of the path data than just the current ('dot') or 
>parent ('dot-dot') directory... it stores references as relative paths using a 
>unix-like dotted notation unless it crosses a root folder of a drive, then FM 
>switches to an absolute reference (drive & path) notation.  So you can go up 
>four levels and then down a new path  (../../../../dir1/dir2) and FM happily 
>follows along.

Thanks for this clarification, Les... I didn't know that. I'd seen the '.' and 
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OT: Acrobat 9.4.2 does save/export all graphic formats

[Klaus Daube]

Dear all,

Obviously i had my glass of wine to early! See 
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/798630 for the whole 
story of my re-re-re-istallation of Acrobat.
* The installation of 9.0 from the TCS2 DVD was OK
* After update to 9.2 my tests displayed correct results for all desired 
tasks
* After the update to 9.4.2 i obviously did not test thoroughly enough 
(hence the glass of whine).
System: Windows 7 x64

Later it turned out that 9.4.2 does not save/export graphic formats:
* jpg, jp2 does not save anything, and no error message gives a hint
* doc, rtf save issue error message "Save As failed to process this 
document. No file has been 
created"
* png and tif do not save anything, and no error message gives a hint
* pdf (all flavours), eps and ps are exported correctly
* html (all flavours) export a html file and the image as jpg correctly
* xml table and xml export correctly
* txt (both flavours) are exported correctly

Hence the only method i can get a picture is to export as HTML and through away 
the HTML... or: 
enlarge the picture as much as possible on the screen and take a screen shot.

What is missing in this installation?
During my re-re-re-installtions some Windows updates may have happened.

Any help available in this issue?
Klaus Daube
 

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